Perseverance Surface Checkout Briefing

The fact remains that you, a government employee of an agency and government known for its perpetual stream of lies, are a moderator on a conspiracy forum. There are plenty of forums to present your software and views, this forum is a horrible choice for it, so it can be deduced that it is not your choice.

I did defend my position. I did not silence you. You are now claiming that I took it from someone else? That is another claim I will expect you to provide evidence for or retract by the end of this weekend. You do not get to make brazen false accusations without consequences.

In order to claim my data is not evidence you must provide support for your claim.

The fact remains that you, a government employee of an agency and government known for its perpetual stream of lies, are a moderator on a conspiracy forum. There are plenty of forums to present your software and views, this forum is a horrible choice for it, so it can be deduced that it is not your choice.

You can ban me until the cows come home, see what good it will do you. You have neither proved the data and video couldnt have been faked, nor have you proved you are the source of it. My guess is thats why you have been banned everywhere else.

The fact is that I'm not allowed to post my software on most astronomy forums. I have been asked not to or outright censored for trying to do so.

I already have , by simply pointing out it could have easily been faked. If it could have been faked it's not true evidence, it's conjecture

That's a lie. I have provided the source of it, I have provided the raw data, none of which would be trivial to "fake." You have provided no evidence that I faked it or even that I "could have easily faked it." You will provide your evidence or you will retract your claim. Tick tock.

"con·jec·ture
noun
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information."

No, that is not the correct use of that word. I have provided evidence, you have provided conjecture which you have failed to support.

Why?

Some do not allow independent software creators to post about their work unless they provide financial kick backs to the forum (ie, pay to play), others simply aren't comfortable with me showing how to track fast moving objects through the sky with off the shelf telescope hardware. I'll let you use your imagination as to why that might make them uncomfortable.

If I believed it proved a successful Mars mission , it would be conjecture

Wouldn't it?

You claimed it could easily be faked, that is conjecture. You have provided no evidence to back up that conjecture.

Seems like if it were good stuff they'd let you post it to steal it.

You seem to have a very narcissistic personality. You seem to think you can just "intuit" what other people *should* do and then draw ridiculous conclusions when they don't follow your preconceived notions.

No, it's NOT conjecture because it is easily provable that it could be faked.

Then prove it. You have provided no proof that it's a trivial matter to fake all of this data.

Good work Astromut

Ignore the crazy guy here

Prove a negative?

I dont have to prove it isn't true, you have o prove it is, and you cannot.

Nope. I'm not asking you to prove a negative. You made an affirmative claim that it's easy to fake all this data. You have provided no evidence of that.

I'm not going to prove your statement is true. That's silly. You made the affirmative claim, you have failed to support your conjecture.

Very true. For instance with Apollo there were millions of parts built by multiple contractors, all the lowest bidder, which had to function in perfect harmony with all of the others, the failure of any one of which would have caused a fatal catastrophe. And yet in 9 missions, 6 of which landed men on the moon, not a single death or even one serious injury occurred.


As a scientist, what are your feelings on the probability of this being a true rendition of a real scientific accomplishment, given the period of time it took place during the peak of the cold war, and the fact that Nixon was President during every mission?
If it was true, they must have been blessed by the Virgin Mary herself and had jesus riding along.

The burned people at the stake for being my kind of crazy

Thank you Astromut for your many great posts and keeping us updated.

What are you talking about? Apollo one killed three astronauts. Apollo 13 nearly killed another three. Apollo 14 had to be recoded in mid-flight due to a short circuit with the abort system. Etc etc. These missions were not miraculously perfect.