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Derek Chauvin Trial - Day 9 - Livestream

 
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Cross examine of Mr.Mackey now
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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs

fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies

i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies
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My question is it possible that the body is metabolizing some of the previously ingested fentanyl at the same time that another dose of fentanyl is being ingested?

Their trying to say that the dose he took was already breaking down and metabolizing but are they considering the unknown amount that he stuffed down his gullet to avoid the popo finding it?
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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs

fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies

i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies
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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs

fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies

i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies
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“Boot licker” is a term commonly used by BLM/ANTIFA....

You’re a liar. No conservative would ever use that term
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The issue here, and I’ll link it in a second is that there have been overdoses of people with 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in their blood..

Figures lie and liars figure...
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Yep they find ODs at multiple levels. Hell most ODs are regular users that have a period of interruption jail, rehab, connections lost etc. that finally score again and do half or a third of what they regularly used and bam dead.

How do we know where GF was on his drug use schedule?

In my opinion all this does is creat an ambiguous un quantifiable cascade of several factors leading to death, in other words reasonable doubt.
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oooof
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In Minnesota you say Uffda!

But yeah that doesn't sound good for the defense.
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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs
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Go join the blue force, you all-knowing Jedi. You obviously know better how to do policing.
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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs

fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies

i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies
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“Boot licker” is a term commonly used by BLM/ANTIFA....

You’re a liar. No conservative would ever use that term
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Agree, our term would be proponents of justice.
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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs
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Go join the blue force, you all-knowing Jedi. You obviously know better how to do policing.
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Keep it on topic please.
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Nelson needs to find a way to nicely cut witnesses off when they get too wordy
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"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.
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"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.
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Nelson back to getting his yesses
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From earlier:



Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 04/08/2021 04:15 PM
"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.
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"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

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Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

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Glad he broke that down (for the jury).

You can't have the metabolite without the chemical precursor.

I'm not worried about today's testimony. Nelson has poked more holes in the prosecution's case than I had any right to expect by this point, and he hasn't even presented his own client's side yet.

I can hardly wait for the defense to begin their part of the trial. I have a feeling it's going to be epic, especially when they recall the prosecution witnesses for the defense!
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Oh, that was misleading. That slide apparently said it was fatal overdoses. But it was just postmortem fentanyl levels.

The witness even testified that he correct it. So his evidence was misleading but he corrected it? Interesting.

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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs

fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies

i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies
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They changed the slide a day before... hahahaha
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Break Time, 20 minutes.
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Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

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"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.
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There is no way they can claim it was a death due to overdose.

Those blood levels would put him way under what they've been finding people stopped for DUI with.

I'm confident, unless the're lying about the fentanyl levels that he didn't die from an overdose.

- maybe he just died of covid. he was positive.

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 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


Ratio good grief I ingest multiple times lethal level and OD before I convert enough to post metabolite.

Ask the ratio of a typical suicide via fentanyl I guarantee the ratio will be below the average users ratio.
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The issue here, and I’ll link it in a second is that there have been overdoses of people with 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in their blood..

Figures lie and liars figure...
 Quoting: <~>


Yep they find ODs at multiple levels. Hell most ODs are regular users that have a period of interruption jail, rehab, connections lost etc. that finally score again and do half or a third of what they regularly used and bam dead.

How do we know where GF was on his drug use schedule?

In my opinion all this does is creat an ambiguous un quantifiable cascade of several factors leading to death, in other words reasonable doubt.
 Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist


For me it’s about finding a case study where someone died with 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in their blood... I did and linked it..

That immediately creates reasonable doubt for me... I couldn’t as a juror vote to convict him on that fact alone...
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Maybe sneaky on Nelson’s part to show how the prosecution is changing evidence and adding things at the last moment. Nelson, on his own, can’t prepare adequately.
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Question 1

Can you press into someone with your knee with any greater force than your weight.

Question 2

Can any normal adult be expected be breath with another persons weight on their chest?

I think most people would be able to still breath with the weight of just one other person.
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Maybe sneaky on Nelson’s part to show how the prosecution is changing evidence and adding things at the last moment. Nelson, on his own, can’t prepare adequately.
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And he’s shown this 2 times in one day...

They clearly have been meeting with the prosecutor but not the defense...

Shows even more biased
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There is no way they can claim it was a death due to overdose.

Those blood levels would put him way under what they've been finding people stopped for DUI with.

I'm confident, unless the're lying about the fentanyl levels that he didn't die from an overdose.

- maybe he just died of covid. he was positive.
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No ratio we don’t know what his standard use was!

Plus there could have been multiple dose like one two hours before and then all the pills he swallowed after the cops came.
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