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Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)

 
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ok maybe someone can explain this one to me....

The Lords Prayer -

I remember vividly it was forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom trespass against us. Now I read it as debts and debtors.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain that one ?
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Who says debts? It was always trespasses.
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ok maybe someone can explain this one to me....

The Lords Prayer -

I remember vividly it was forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom trespass against us. Now I read it as debts and debtors.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain that one ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


Who says debts? It was always trespasses.
 Quoting: Quantum Joker




exactly....go and check out your Bible. Now its debts.

"Pray then like this: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'"


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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
As far as the Mandela effects are concerned, it is not some dimension or timeline shifting. It is an edit. An unintentional one but it was an edit to this "simulation/Matrix"

Those who are saying the Mandela effect is from millions of people sharing a bad memory are literally programmable disposable NPCs.

How many times by so many different civilizations over thousands of years do you have to be told that this world is an illusion before you fukin clue in?
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
ok maybe someone can explain this one to me....

The Lords Prayer -

I remember vividly it was forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom trespass against us. Now I read it as debts and debtors.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain that one ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


You're thinking of the way you say it in AA.
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It is caused by lack of attention to detail and hubris in that once you are absolutely proven to be wrong, your pride will not allow you to correct your mistake.

Mandela effect is admitting you don't pay attention and you give zero fucks.
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ok maybe someone can explain this one to me....

The Lords Prayer -

I remember vividly it was forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom trespass against us. Now I read it as debts and debtors.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain that one ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


Who says debts? It was always trespasses.
 Quoting: Quantum Joker




exactly....go and check out your Bible. Now its debts.

"Pray then like this: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'"


!!!!!

????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


It doesn't seem to be an ME. Maybe your bible is using a different translation...?

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The Lord’s Prayer
Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power, and the glory,
forever and ever.

Amen.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
It has always been fist on chin. This is not a good example.

Fist on forehead makes no sense.
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How so? You think with your brain which is located inside the skull. Do you people "think" before you write?
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ok maybe someone can explain this one to me....

The Lords Prayer -

I remember vividly it was forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom trespass against us. Now I read it as debts and debtors.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain that one ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


Who says debts? It was always trespasses.
 Quoting: Quantum Joker




exactly....go and check out your Bible. Now its debts.

"Pray then like this: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'"


!!!!!

????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


It doesn't seem to be an ME. Maybe your bible is using a different translation...?

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The Lord’s Prayer
Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power, and the glory,
forever and ever.

Amen.
 Quoting: Quantum Joker


King James Version
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"And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."

New King James Version
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"And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."

1599 Geneva Bible
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"And forgive us our debts, as we also forgive our debtors."

International Standard Version
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"and forgive us our sins, as we have forgiven those who have sinned against us."
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
The Thinker was a slave owner. The statue must come down.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
Truth is they are fusing the pose of Thinking Man and Atlas (the guy holding up with world on his back).
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
Even those who are claiming it has always been a clenched fist beneath a resting chin seem to be missing the fact that it is now a half-open relaxed hand, with a few knuckles appearing to be literally inside his mouth, as if he is sucking on his knuckles. How the fuck does that make sense?
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
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Why did at least one of the kids put their hand on their chin?
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I actually can't see that for sure on the photo ..too small and blurry, resolution not good enough... looks like her fist is on her cheek to me.
 Quoting: JADR+


Now you're just being disingenuous
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https://imgur.com/2RM8Onp


you tell me???
 Quoting: JADR+


EXACTLY!!

A CLOSED MIND and SEEKING TRUTH are diametrically opposed.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
So here's the thing...

The fact that literally seconds prior to posing for this picture, all, or many of these people JUST LOOKED AT IT, saw that the fist was on the chin, and then posed with their fists to their head, is a TESTAMENT to just how fundamentally inattentive human beings are, and how their short term memory of what they just looked at, has failed them within SECONDS.

The truth of the Mandela Effect, is that the overwhelming majority of the people in the world, are stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76156121


I saw the picture when the statue had his hand on his forehead.

The PICTURE HAS CHANGED.

In this case, the PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION changed, and most/all images of that manifestation changed, as well.

This also explains why you cannot find a Berenstein Bears book, even if it is locked away in an attic, somewhere.

But, you can find PLENTY of references to Berenstein Bears, in various media, especially CONCURRENT with their introduction.

Example: I worked in a music store in the early'70's.

There was a southern rock group called "The Atlantic Rhythm Section".

They had a couple of hits, Spooky for one.

Now, according to most, including the members, there has NEVER been a group by that name. It is called "THE ATLANTA RHYTHM SECTION".

But if you search, deeply, on the internet, you can find all sorts of RESIDUE calling them THE ATLANTIC RHYTHM SECTION.

This is NOT just DIFFERENT TIMELINES, because there would be no residue, if that were the case.

We are seeing someone, or something, ALTER THE PAST.
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Even those who are claiming it has always been a clenched fist beneath a resting chin seem to be missing the fact that it is now a half-open relaxed hand, with a few knuckles appearing to be literally inside his mouth, as if he is sucking on his knuckles. How the fuck does that make sense?
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It doesn't make sense, because rather than sitting on a rock, the stinker you're thinking of was sitting on a toilet.
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ok maybe someone can explain this one to me....

The Lords Prayer -

I remember vividly it was forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom trespass against us. Now I read it as debts and debtors.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain that one ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78916959


You're thinking of the way you say it in AA.
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I was brought up trespasses, and not debts. I thought the Vatican must have changed the text.

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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
It has always been fist on chin. This is not a good example.

Fist on forehead makes no sense.
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How so? You think with your brain which is located inside the skull. Do you people "think" before you write?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82501391


Do it yourself... Act like you are thinking hard about something. I bet your hand goes to your chin - especially if you have a beard.

The fist to the forehead thing is some kind of weird body-building Schwarzenegger pose. Unnatural.
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As far as the Mandela effects are concerned, it is not some dimension or timeline shifting. It is an edit. An unintentional one but it was an edit to this "simulation/Matrix"

Those who are saying the Mandela effect is from millions of people sharing a bad memory are literally programmable disposable NPCs.

How many times by so many different civilizations over thousands of years do you have to be told that this world is an illusion before you fukin clue in?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25203271


YOU ARE CORRECT!!

KINDA!

THIS IS EDITING.

But, it is NOT ACCIDENTAL.

It happens too often, and always TRIVIAL.

What if it is someone, or something PLAYING with us, INTENTIONALLY?

ARCHONS, maybe?
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It is caused by lack of attention to detail and hubris in that once you are absolutely proven to be wrong, your pride will not allow you to correct your mistake.

Mandela effect is admitting you don't pay attention and you give zero fucks.
 Quoting: NotPeople


That is TOO FUNNY!

My IQ is higher than 99.98% of my fellow humans.

I have made quite an EXCELLENT income, for 25 years, analyzing, and solving data connectivity issues.

I also have a knack for noticing small changes in ANYTHING.

My ATTENTION to detail is what made me NOTICE these occurrences.

How can you ABSOLUTELY PROVE that I am wrong?

That says A LOT about YOUR IQ!
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As far as the Mandela effects are concerned, it is not some dimension or timeline shifting. It is an edit. An unintentional one but it was an edit to this "simulation/Matrix"

Those who are saying the Mandela effect is from millions of people sharing a bad memory are literally programmable disposable NPCs.

How many times by so many different civilizations over thousands of years do you have to be told that this world is an illusion before you fukin clue in?
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It is caused by lack of attention to detail and hubris in that once you are absolutely proven to be wrong, your pride will not allow you to correct your mistake.

Mandela effect is admitting you don't pay attention and you give zero fucks.
 Quoting: NotPeople


That is TOO FUNNY!

My IQ is higher than 99.98% of my fellow humans.

I have made quite an EXCELLENT income, for 25 years, analyzing, and solving data connectivity issues.

I also have a knack for noticing small changes in ANYTHING.

My ATTENTION to detail is what made me NOTICE these occurrences.

How can you ABSOLUTELY PROVE that I am wrong?

That says A LOT about YOUR IQ!
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you can't prove a negative, genius. and stop screaming.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
It has always been fist on chin. This is not a good example.

Fist on forehead makes no sense.
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How so? You think with your brain which is located inside the skull. Do you people "think" before you write?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82501391


Do it yourself... Act like you are thinking hard about something. I bet your hand goes to your chin - especially if you have a beard.

The fist to the forehead thing is some kind of weird body-building Schwarzenegger pose. Unnatural.
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No.
The fist to the forehead symbolized a kind of tortured thinking process. It was a way to really illustrate thinking about something so deeply that it becomes laborious.
Art used to be a kind of education when many people were still illiterate. The purpose needed to be easily conveyed.

Rodin was a master sculptor. Casting in bronze is no easy feat, even today, but especially so back in the 1800s/early 1900s. He knew how to convey a message. A man deep in concentration has his fist on his forehead. A man with his chin on his hand is bored or waiting or engaged in light contemplation. Not deep thinking.
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It has always been fist on chin. This is not a good example.

Fist on forehead makes no sense.
 Quoting: IFartInYourDirection



How so? You think with your brain which is located inside the skull. Do you people "think" before you write?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82501391


Do it yourself... Act like you are thinking hard about something. I bet your hand goes to your chin - especially if you have a beard.

The fist to the forehead thing is some kind of weird body-building Schwarzenegger pose. Unnatural.
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No.
The fist to the forehead symbolized a kind of tortured thinking process. It was a way to really illustrate thinking about something so deeply that it becomes laborious.
Art used to be a kind of education when many people were still illiterate. The purpose needed to be easily conveyed.

Rodin was a master sculptor. Casting in bronze is no easy feat, even today, but especially so back in the 1800s/early 1900s. He knew how to convey a message. A man deep in concentration has his fist on his forehead. A man with his chin on his hand is bored or waiting or engaged in light contemplation. Not deep thinking.
 Quoting: Quantum Joker


When I'm doing my deepest thinking (or even just pushing really hard) while on the can, I put my fist on my forehead. I put my fist on my chin AFTER I've done my most tortured thinking.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
I've never seen the Thinker portrayed with a fist on his forehead.

I didn't know that was even a theory until this thread.

It's never been that way.

It's always been with his first supporting his chin.

Having his first on his forehead doesn't even make sense.

And Isaiah 11 never read 'And the lion shall lie down with the lamb'.

Whoever starts these stupid rumors should serve jail time.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


I've always known the thinker with a fist on his forehead - and I'm far from the only one

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That only proves there are a lot of stupid people in the world with shitty memories.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
lol it's absolutely never been on the forehead, always been on the chin.
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Even those who are claiming it has always been a clenched fist beneath a resting chin seem to be missing the fact that it is now a half-open relaxed hand, with a few knuckles appearing to be literally inside his mouth, as if he is sucking on his knuckles. How the fuck does that make sense?
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hesright

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RODIN'S DESCRIPTION OF THE THINKER:

French:
« Il ne pense pas seulement avec son cerveau, avec son sourcil froncé, ses narines écartées et ses lèvres pincées, mais aussi avec chaque muscle de ses bras, de son dos et de ses jambes, ses poings serrés et ses orteils crispés. »

"poings serrés " = clenched fists

English:
"What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

NO CLENCHED FISTS ... the thinker now eats a knuckle sandwich!!

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I Had a thinker statue in my living room for a dozen years. It was always hand clenched on head. Those who didn't have a statue can shut the fuck up and face the fact that you are an npc with no eternal soul.
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
What?! The hand isn't even closed in a fist anymore??
It was already ridiculous when the hand was moved from the forehead, but now the hand isn't even closed into a fist?

!?
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What?! The hand isn't even closed in a fist anymore??
It was already ridiculous when the hand was moved from the forehead, but now the hand isn't even closed into a fist?

!?
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Check it out for your self:

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I Had a thinker statue in my living room for a dozen years. It was always hand clenched on head. Those who didn't have a statue can shut the fuck up and face the fact that you are an npc with no eternal soul.
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like the one in this 1989 IBM commercial?


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