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John 8:24 - 'Unless you believe I am the Son of God' - KJV Bible Stuey

 
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...

This ... is on here 24/7 spouting lies, deception, heresy and cultic doctrine.

I stand opposed to his blasphemy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

So...Jesus was blaspheming?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Who raised Jesus from the dead?
Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Jesus raised Himself, since He is God.

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

You quote ONE pre-resurrection verse and claim it has more weight than 18 OTHER verses????

Besides the fact that Jesus NEVER said 'I raised myself'???

Scriptural evidence says Jesus didn't do it.

The FATHER did it.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


All it takes is one verse, cultist.

EVERY verse is God's Word.
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Re: John 8:24 - 'Unless you believe I am the Son of God' - KJV Bible Stuey
Jesus is NOT "God Almighty" / 'I AM'.

Scriptural PROOF.

1. Revelation 21 John tells us exactly who "God Almighty" is.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

2. The LORD / God - tells Moses that His name is Jehovah...and that He is God Almighty.

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham,
unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,

by the name of God Almighty,

but by my name JEHOVAH (YHVH)

was I not known to them.


3. The Father is the "I AM" - NOT Jesus.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM
THAT I AM:
and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM
hath sent me unto you.


Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


The Creator is the I AM and is above names and is unnameable. IT existed with nothing above it to name IT. The Creator is beyond human description and definition. The Creator reveals aspects of Itself that are called by names to facilitate limited human understanding.

All of Creation is infused with the Creator's essence. All is part of the One.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84149868

Gnostic gnonsense.

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


What is not true in what I said. In the Bible God said he was I AM. He made known his other names in scripture. He Created everything by his word. He thought,then spoke everything into being.

I fail to see why you would dismiss a statement of truth based on the Bible and call it gnostic nonsense? I am not gnostic. I believe in the Bible and the I AM of the Bible.

You seem to label anything that doesn't match your opinion and then just dismiss it without really explaining why

Again, what a out my words is not true?
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You are doing a lot of work to reduce the deity of the Christ in the hearts of men.

May God have mercy on you for any damage to His image you are causing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24922965

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


There's only "one" deity.
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So...Jesus was blaspheming?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Who raised Jesus from the dead?
Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Jesus raised Himself, since He is God.

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

You quote ONE pre-resurrection verse and claim it has more weight than 18 OTHER verses????

Besides the fact that Jesus NEVER said 'I raised myself'???

Scriptural evidence says Jesus didn't do it.

The FATHER did it.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


All it takes is one verse, cultist.

EVERY verse is God's Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


Yep, serpoop of the TURD picks and chooses which verses to believe.
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So...Jesus was blaspheming?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Who raised Jesus from the dead?
Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Jesus raised Himself, since He is God.

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

You quote ONE pre-resurrection verse and claim it has more weight than 18 OTHER verses????

Besides the fact that Jesus NEVER said 'I raised myself'???

Scriptural evidence says Jesus didn't do it.

The FATHER did it.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Nope.

"Then said the J__s, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

But he spake of the temple of his body."

Jesus raised Himself from the dead.

Jesus IS God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


Yep, only God can raise Himself from the dead.
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All it takes is one verse, cultist.

EVERY verse is God's Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


18 verses say 'the Father RAISED Jesus'.

Nope. "Then said the J__s, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body."

Jesus raised Himself from the dead. Jesus IS God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Yep, only God can raise Himself from the dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42314061

You believe 'God can die'.
You believe 'God raised Himself from the dead'

Utter NONSENSE.

.....

18 verses say 'Father God raised Jesus'.

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.



Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

.....

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

.....

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

.....

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

.....

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

....

Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,


.....


Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

.....

1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,


....
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Re: John 8:24 - 'Unless you believe I am the Son of God' - KJV Bible Stuey
Chuck Missler (RIP) disciples claim that in John 8:24, Jesus is claiming to be the "I AM" from Exodus.

That's wrong.

1. Here's the verse. The 'he' isn't in many manuscripts.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you,
that ye shall die in your sins: for
if ye believe not that I am (he),
ye shall die in your sins.


2. Jesus is ACTUALLY refering to John 3:16. It says to 'Believe in the only beggoten SON'.

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him

should not perish, but have everlasting life.


3. The real 'connection' verse is John 8:28.

Jhn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,

When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye

know that I am he,

and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath taught me,
I speak these things.



4. 'I am he' = 'son of Man' = 'Son of God'

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I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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All it takes is one verse, cultist.

EVERY verse is God's Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


18 verses say 'the Father RAISED Jesus'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Then we conclude, as Jesus stated, 'I and the Father are ONE'
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All it takes is one verse, cultist.

EVERY verse is God's Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


18 verses say 'the Father RAISED Jesus'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


So what? It's not a contest between those 18 and that 1. That's not how Scripture works. You cultist hack.
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All it takes is one verse, cultist.

EVERY verse is God's Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


18 verses say 'the Father RAISED Jesus'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Then we conclude, as Jesus stated, 'I and the Father are ONE'
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Exactly.
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only God can raise Himself from the dead.
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You believe 'God can die'.
You believe 'God raised Himself from the dead'

Utter NONSENSE.
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All things are possible with God.
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John 2:19-22
19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

20They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” 21But the temple he had spoken of was his body. 22After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
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OP thinks an all powerful God couldn't become a man and die and then raise himself from the dead.

What kind of weak, limited god does he believe in?
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For like the last 5 years or so, OP (serpoop of the TURD) has been collecting sayings of Jesus that supposedly prove he isn't God and trying to use them to disprove the scriptures of Paul that say Jesus is God. And OP would belittle anyone who used Paul's scriptures to prove anything.

Now OP is ignoring a saying of Jesus and is collecting a bunch of Paul scriptures to try to disprove something Jesus said (that He raised Himself from the dead).

OP is a total hypocrite. He's the least consistent person I've seen ever.
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You are doing a lot of work to reduce the deity of the Christ in the hearts of men.

May God have mercy on you for any damage to His image you are causing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24922965

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


There's only "one" deity.
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yep, he's peddling arian herecies here and now polytheism, servant of the lord should rename himself servant of satan because thats who he serves as a false prophet.

- The FATHER calls Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8
- John 1 states Jesus is God in plain text.
- John 10:30 - "I and the Father are ONE"

...etc etc.

Jesus is God in flesh, this is no debate. He's been shown the scriptures here many times but its like talking to a pineapple, he cant hear you and keeps yapping like this is "news" without ever learning anything and repenting of his herecies.
Just†Me recomends:
Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophesies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
The bible for download: [link to rcbi-resources.yolasite.com]
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You are doing a lot of work to reduce the deity of the Christ in the hearts of men.

May God have mercy on you for any damage to His image you are causing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24922965

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


There's only "one" deity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42314061


yep, he's peddling arian herecies here and now polytheism, servant of the lord should rename himself servant of satan because thats who he serves as a false prophet.

- The FATHER calls Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8
- John 1 states Jesus is God in plain text.
- John 10:30 - "I and the Father are ONE"

...etc etc.

Jesus is God in flesh, this is no debate. He's been shown the scriptures here many times but its like talking to a pineapple, he cant hear you and keeps yapping like this is "news" without ever learning anything and repenting of his herecies.
 Quoting: Just†Me


Indeed
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John 2:19-22
19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

20They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” 21But the temple he had spoken of was his body. 22After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


The disciples believed Jesus raised Himself from the dead.

Why doesn't OP?

Because he is not a disciple.
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Chuck Missler (RIP) disciples claim that in John 8:24, Jesus is claiming to be the "I AM" from Exodus.

That's wrong.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Why does it seem to me that you're happy he's dead?
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He's not a Christian.

.
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Chuck Missler (RIP) disciples claim that
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

I don't believe in Chuck.

We believe in Jesus.

.

But I'm glad I've taught you Chuck Missler...

and half the things you say.

You're welcome.


I hope you will yet humble yourself\

and believe Jesus.


.
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That's wrong.

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Thus sayeth you.

So what?

...
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He's not a Christian.

.
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No way. He literally worships the Muslim god.
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SotL,

When YOU are standing before Jesus Christ...
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God cannot die.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Psalm 78:41
Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
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Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

Php 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
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You are doing a lot of work to reduce the deity of the Christ in the hearts of men.

May God have mercy on you for any damage to His image you are causing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24922965

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


There's only "one" deity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42314061


True. There is only one Almighty God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ.
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God never had blood.
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Acts 20:28 “Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God which He hath purchased with His own blood.

WHO bled? Jesus.

Jesus is God.

God bled.

God can.

dark
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You are doing a lot of work to reduce the deity of the Christ in the hearts of men.

May God have mercy on you for any damage to His image you are causing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24922965

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


There's only "one" deity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42314061


True. There is only one Almighty God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78457365


Jesus is God. John 1:1.
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He's not a Christian.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84238149


Christians shouldn’t worship Jesus. He never said to pray to him.

Jesus said to pray to his father Almighty God who Jesus prayed to. Christians are to pray to God in Jesus name. Jesus is not God. He is not his own father. Jesus died for us. God didn’t. He sent his son to do that.
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...

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


There's only "one" deity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42314061


True. There is only one Almighty God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78457365


Jesus is God. John 1:1.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42783314


Jesus was with God. Not that he was God. He prayed to God. Jesus didn’t pray to himself.





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