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Tracking Artemis I in Deep Space | |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator  12/03/2022 03:29 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using 20" telescopes I was able to track Artemis I in deep space this past week and measure its distance from earth directly with parallax. I was also able to independently determine its orbit and verify the appearance and relative sizes of the earth and moon were exactly as expected during the occultation of earth by the moon as seen from the Orion spacecraft back on November 28th. This means I've been able to track the spacecraft from launch, after TLI and now in the DRO orbit it has around the moon before starting its return to earth.  |
| Brit Perspective
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| We Who Watch.
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| The Old Timer
User ID: 84228321 United States12/03/2022 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know I love your work!!  Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
| RestoreTheAnger
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| scimitar
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| WhereTheHellAmi?
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| Reality420
User ID: 84221876 United States12/03/2022 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good, Mutt. The FE "dome" nutters will still deny the facts presented as all kooks do. . Are you going to image the Dec. 7 Mars occultation? I know it's not occulting for where you live. Have any time on the Arizona telescopes? The close pass at your locale should be a good show, too. Have fun. Reality. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
| Remedial_Rebel
User ID: 78258400 United States12/03/2022 07:10 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you're near a black hole. Then it's a sousaphone. Wonder what's it's range of notes?  5*s Astro. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 12/03/2022 07:11 PM |
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| Zathras
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| Grognak the Ballbareian
User ID: 81558040 United States12/03/2022 11:52 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using 20" telescopes I was able to track Artemis I in deep space this past week and measure its distance from earth directly with parallax. I was also able to independently determine its orbit and verify the appearance and relative sizes of the earth and moon were exactly as expected during the occultation of earth by the moon as seen from the Orion spacecraft back on November 28th. This means I've been able to track the spacecraft from launch, after TLI and now in the DRO orbit it has around the moon before starting its return to earth.  |
| Astromut
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| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 12/05/2022 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using 20" telescopes I was able to track Artemis I in deep space this past week and measure its distance from earth directly with parallax. I was also able to independently determine its orbit and verify the appearance and relative sizes of the earth and moon were exactly as expected during the occultation of earth by the moon as seen from the Orion spacecraft back on November 28th. This means I've been able to track the spacecraft from launch, after TLI and now in the DRO orbit it has around the moon before starting its return to earth. Actually, it's not. Facts are stubborn things. |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 12/05/2022 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good, Mutt. Quoting: Reality420 The FE "dome" nutters will still deny the facts presented as all kooks do. . Are you going to image the Dec. 7 Mars occultation? I know it's not occulting for where you live. Have any time on the Arizona telescopes? The close pass at your locale should be a good show, too. Have fun. Reality. I might film the close pass if the weather allows, but I'm not planning to fire up any remote telescopes for it. I've blown a fair bit worth of scope time on Artemis I so far. |
| Billy-X
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| TheDarkMan
User ID: 80276927 United States12/05/2022 01:41 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good, Mutt. Quoting: Reality420 The FE "dome" nutters will still deny the facts presented as all kooks do. . Are you going to image the Dec. 7 Mars occultation? I know it's not occulting for where you live. Have any time on the Arizona telescopes? The close pass at your locale should be a good show, too. Have fun. Reality. I might film the close pass if the weather allows, but I'm not planning to fire up any remote telescopes for it. I've blown a fair bit worth of scope time on Artemis I so far. I don't get why NASA makes you do all of these calculations yourself. Why don't they just let you type in your coordinates and run the equations for you? Have they ever done this? What am I thinking? How do I feel? What am I doing? |
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| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 12/05/2022 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good, Mutt. Quoting: Reality420 The FE "dome" nutters will still deny the facts presented as all kooks do. . Are you going to image the Dec. 7 Mars occultation? I know it's not occulting for where you live. Have any time on the Arizona telescopes? The close pass at your locale should be a good show, too. Have fun. Reality. I might film the close pass if the weather allows, but I'm not planning to fire up any remote telescopes for it. I've blown a fair bit worth of scope time on Artemis I so far. I don't get why NASA makes you do all of these calculations yourself. Why don't they just let you type in your coordinates and run the equations for you? Have they ever done this? Doing it myself is kind of the point though. I enjoy running the numbers myself. Sure, I can just go on NASA's JPL site and put in my location's coordinates and find out what the current distance to Orion is, but that would defeat the point. I want to collect my own observations and independently determine the orbit of Orion myself and independently measure the distance of Orion myself. There's a certain magic to me in seeing it all come together to get to the answer and finding out that the answer agrees with what NASA said it would be. |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 12/05/2022 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for sharing Doc. Quoting: m0r3  I'm interested in images taken during this mission. Think they'll release more soon? Did you see the shot they had of earthrise after they performed the return powered fly-by burn today? It was incredible! https://twitter.com/_/status/1599815833492295693 |
| TheDarkMan
User ID: 80276927 United States12/05/2022 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good, Mutt. Quoting: Reality420 The FE "dome" nutters will still deny the facts presented as all kooks do. . Are you going to image the Dec. 7 Mars occultation? I know it's not occulting for where you live. Have any time on the Arizona telescopes? The close pass at your locale should be a good show, too. Have fun. Reality. I might film the close pass if the weather allows, but I'm not planning to fire up any remote telescopes for it. I've blown a fair bit worth of scope time on Artemis I so far. I don't get why NASA makes you do all of these calculations yourself. Why don't they just let you type in your coordinates and run the equations for you? Have they ever done this? Doing it myself is kind of the point though. I enjoy running the numbers myself. Sure, I can just go on NASA's JPL site and put in my location's coordinates and find out what the current distance to Orion is, but that would defeat the point. I want to collect my own observations and independently determine the orbit of Orion myself and independently measure the distance of Orion myself. There's a certain magic to me in seeing it all come together to get to the answer and finding out that the answer agrees with what NASA said it would be. I do get it.  What am I thinking? How do I feel? What am I doing? |
| VerB
User ID: 77474066 United States12/05/2022 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut I might film the close pass if the weather allows, but I'm not planning to fire up any remote telescopes for it. I've blown a fair bit worth of scope time on Artemis I so far. I don't get why NASA makes you do all of these calculations yourself. Why don't they just let you type in your coordinates and run the equations for you? Have they ever done this? Doing it myself is kind of the point though. I enjoy running the numbers myself. Sure, I can just go on NASA's JPL site and put in my location's coordinates and find out what the current distance to Orion is, but that would defeat the point. I want to collect my own observations and independently determine the orbit of Orion myself and independently measure the distance of Orion myself. There's a certain magic to me in seeing it all come together to get to the answer and finding out that the answer agrees with what NASA said it would be. I do get it. yeah sorta like checks and balances. Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then. If the more I know, the more I know I don’t know, then do I truly know what I know because I know I don’t? You cannot reach a correct conclusion if you begin with an incorrect assumption |
| JustinCastro
User ID: 79310067  Canada12/05/2022 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we sent a craft to orbit the moon for 20 days or so & then fly back ? Do we eventually get to see the pictures of all the apparent structures on the side facing us & the crazy shit that must be around on the Dark Side ? Or will this be the equivalent of a Galactic Beyond Meat Burger. Uncle Raul |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 12/05/2022 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we sent a craft to orbit the moon for 20 days or so & then fly back ? Do we eventually get to see the pictures of all the apparent structures on the side facing us & the crazy shit that must be around on the Dark Side ? Or will this be the equivalent of a Galactic Beyond Meat Burger. Quoting: JustinCastro If you haven't been paying attention you've been missing out, but I don't know what you mean by "structures." I have observed the moon through telescopes for years and have yet to find artificial structures visible to a telescope. The Orion spacecraft has a GoPro cameras at the end of each solar array. They've been returning some amazing images, like what I showed in my video, but they're not capable of high magnification views. They also have some navigation camera images that are higher magnification but less aesthetically pleasing for the most part since that's not the purpose. |
| DeniedTruths
User ID: 71081212 United States12/05/2022 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we sent a craft to orbit the moon for 20 days or so & then fly back ? Do we eventually get to see the pictures of all the apparent structures on the side facing us & the crazy shit that must be around on the Dark Side ? Or will this be the equivalent of a Galactic Beyond Meat Burger. Quoting: JustinCastro If you haven't been paying attention you've been missing out, but I don't know what you mean by "structures." I have observed the moon through telescopes for years and have yet to find artificial structures visible to a telescope. The Orion spacecraft has a GoPro cameras at the end of each solar array. They've been returning some amazing images, like what I showed in my video, but they're not capable of high magnification views. They also have some navigation camera images that are higher magnification but less aesthetically pleasing for the most part since that's not the purpose. For the millions upon millions of dollars they spend. GO PRO CAMERAS?!?!   No offense to your work intended, but really? GO PRO CAMERAS? I study you all. We are NOT FREE. We are FREE RANGE. Master of Kentucky windage. The more I SEE, the more I understand. The more I UNDERSTAND, the more I see. "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller If I post something and you are an asshole in your response I will delete you. IF you are polite and offer information to the contrary. THANK-YOU |
| Madmurdoch
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| Grognak the Ballbareian
User ID: 81558040 United States12/05/2022 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using 20" telescopes I was able to track Artemis I in deep space this past week and measure its distance from earth directly with parallax. I was also able to independently determine its orbit and verify the appearance and relative sizes of the earth and moon were exactly as expected during the occultation of earth by the moon as seen from the Orion spacecraft back on November 28th. This means I've been able to track the spacecraft from launch, after TLI and now in the DRO orbit it has around the moon before starting its return to earth. Those who control the narrative control the facts. Actually, it's not. Facts are stubborn things. |
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| Grognak the Ballbareian
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| A Jackson
User ID: 81540243 United States12/05/2022 08:14 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you're near a black hole. Then it's a sousaphone. Wonder what's it's range of notes? 5*s Astro. Here you go. It’s a really creepy tuba! 58 octaves above the original pitch! That’s one heck of a tuba! Seems to be better fidelity on the NASA page. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
