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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Is God the trapped starving alien they were torturing to death in Returner?
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LOL yes.. And the torturers, and the set, and the spider on the web in the corner of the room... And you. And your couch. And the pixels on the screen in between you. And the dust particles kicked up as you were jumping from your seat. And the carpet. And the floor. And the dead body under your living room. And China. And Orion's belt.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


That perspective is quite easy to obtain, but makes it hard to establish boundaries for real estate
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Yes you are One with it, like already mentioned. The quote said "I and my Father are One" after all.

Yes, the single template is 1, 2, 3, 5.
[snippies]
 Quoting: Ordoz II


0 - mother (chaos)
1 - father (order)
1 - "son" (chaos)
2 - yada
3 - yada
5 - yada

so to speak, "I and that from which I came are 1"

forwards: I and father are 1
backwares: 1 are father and I

(plural)
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I would like what you're having buddy !

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Is God the trapped starving alien they were torturing to death in Returner?
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LOL yes.. And the torturers, and the set, and the spider on the web in the corner of the room... And you. And your couch. And the pixels on the screen in between you. And the dust particles kicked up as you were jumping from your seat. And the carpet. And the floor. And the dead body under your living room. And China. And Orion's belt.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


That perspective is quite easy to obtain, but makes it hard to establish boundaries for real estate
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God is All, yet all doesn't exist because it is transient. The true reality is nothingness but it cannot be perceived so we keep trying to define it with some-things and fall short...

Why do you need boundaries? There really aren't any, just what is relative and what isn't.

Also, how do you mean real estate?
ENGAGE!!!
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Yes you are One with it, like already mentioned. The quote said "I and my Father are One" after all.

Yes, the single template is 1, 2, 3, 5.

No, there is no finite physical universe because there is no physicality. What you see as physical is merely a configuration of representations (relationships) or light particles grouping together to give the illusion of 'things' .. Within your perspective.

Algo: 1, 2, 3, 5.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Thank you for the answer, but let me clarify. Substance - is it reasonable? In the end, “I” or “my Father” defines reality? Where does "I" end and "My Father" begins? How to feel united with him?
  Potential energy creates a condition for movement from the High Point area to the Low zone. It is the difference of energies that creates the flow (wind, river flow, electric current ...). But how does one and the same substance separate the "high" from the "low"?
  How do light particles create the illusion of solid things? What is the limiter of the solid wall preventing the car from passing through without being damaged?
 If you think my questions are stupid, you can not answer.
Thank you for your patience.
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Is God the trapped starving alien they were torturing to death in Returner?
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LOL yes.. And the torturers, and the set, and the spider on the web in the corner of the room... And you. And your couch. And the pixels on the screen in between you. And the dust particles kicked up as you were jumping from your seat. And the carpet. And the floor. And the dead body under your living room. And China. And Orion's belt.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


That perspective is quite easy to obtain, but makes it hard to establish boundaries for real estate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77743250


God is All, yet all doesn't exist because it is transient. The true reality is nothingness but it cannot be perceived so we keep trying to define it with some-things and fall short...

Why do you need boundaries? There really aren't any, just what is relative and what isn't.

Also, how do you mean real estate?
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Forgive me for interfering in the conversation, but the boundaries are probably needed in order for diversity to exist?
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Yes you are One with it, like already mentioned. The quote said "I and my Father are One" after all.

Yes, the single template is 1, 2, 3, 5.

No, there is no finite physical universe because there is no physicality. What you see as physical is merely a configuration of representations (relationships) or light particles grouping together to give the illusion of 'things' .. Within your perspective.

Algo: 1, 2, 3, 5.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Thank you for the answer, but let me clarify. Substance - is it reasonable? In the end, “I” or “my Father” defines reality? Where does "I" end and "My Father" begins? How to feel united with him?
  Potential energy creates a condition for movement from the High Point area to the Low zone. It is the difference of energies that creates the flow (wind, river flow, electric current ...). But how does one and the same substance separate the "high" from the "low"?
  How do light particles create the illusion of solid things? What is the limiter of the solid wall preventing the car from passing through without being damaged?
 If you think my questions are stupid, you can not answer.
Thank you for your patience.
 Quoting: razvitie


There is no separation. You are literally One.

[I can point to your pinky finger and I'd be pointing at you. There is no way I can point to all of you unless you're standing really far away so that my finger can cover all of the atoms that make up 'you' and even then the cells that were present in the 3yr old you are no longer within the You you now identify with...]

To feel united with "Him" feel united with "Him". It's that easy...


& relativity defines how "solid" something seems. If you didn't believe the wall was solid you could walk right through it... Like how kinetic energy sometimes does, or how certain radio waves just pass through them like they're not even there. A "higher vibration" is merely a state of BEing.

About the car; if your car was 'imaginary' then it would easily pass through the wall, but since you believe it is solid of course it'll interact with the wall as expected - because they both have their own 'gravity'. You've already set up parameters on how each should behave by merely perceiving it so.
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LOL yes.. And the torturers, and the set, and the spider on the web in the corner of the room... And you. And your couch. And the pixels on the screen in between you. And the dust particles kicked up as you were jumping from your seat. And the carpet. And the floor. And the dead body under your living room. And China. And Orion's belt.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


That perspective is quite easy to obtain, but makes it hard to establish boundaries for real estate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77743250


God is All, yet all doesn't exist because it is transient. The true reality is nothingness but it cannot be perceived so we keep trying to define it with some-things and fall short...

Why do you need boundaries? There really aren't any, just what is relative and what isn't.

Also, how do you mean real estate?
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Forgive me for interfering in the conversation, but the boundaries are probably needed in order for diversity to exist?
 Quoting: razvitie


Diversity is chaos and it's pretty much already everywhere, we just order and structure things in certain ways to make them make sense. You call a tree a tree but it is trillions upon trillions of different cells dancing together, constantly changing, constantly in flux.

They have different qualities, different configurations, different placements and different behaviours yet we lump them all up into one "thing"; a tree.

Why? Because it's useful. If every time you had to refer to that group of 'species' you had to name each and every cell - you would die before you even finished defining what you are about to talk about...
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There is no separation. You are literally One.

[I can point to your pinky finger and I'd be pointing at you. There is no way I can point to all of you unless you're standing really far away so that my finger can cover all of the atoms that make up 'you' and even then the cells that were present in the 3yr old you are no longer within the You you now identify with...]

To feel united with "Him" feel united with "Him". It's that easy...


& relativity defines how "solid" something seems. If you didn't believe the wall was solid you could walk right through it... Like how kinetic energy sometimes does, or how certain radio waves just pass through them like they're not even there. A "higher vibration" is merely a state of BEing.

About the car; if your car was 'imaginary' then it would easily pass through the wall, but since you believe it is solid of course it'll interact with the wall as expected - because they both have their own 'gravity'. You've already set up parameters on how each should behave by merely perceiving it so.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


So, the "I" is the only thing that exists, which is substance. A substance possesses intelligence and creates the illusion of reality by dividing itself into its constituent parts. A substance possesses energy and distributes it between its parts. There are many illusions that are packaged in the "here" and "now", but this is also an illusion (relationship). The principle of everything is based on fractals (laws that are universal). The question arises: how 1) an ion, 2) an axon, 3) an elementon 5) a representation is connected with "SUBSTANCE" and which of them connects / unites?
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Diversity is chaos and it's pretty much already everywhere, we just order and structure things in certain ways to make them make sense. You call a tree a tree but it is trillions upon trillions of different cells dancing together, constantly changing, constantly in flux.

They have different qualities, different configurations, different placements and different behaviours yet we lump them all up into one "thing"; a tree.

Why? Because it's useful. If every time you had to refer to that group of 'species' you had to name each and every cell - you would die before you even finished defining what you are about to talk about...
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Do I understand correctly that a substance cannot die turning into "nothing", just because it has the energy of creativity? It converts itself as energy (chemical into electrical energy in batteries, chemical into heat and light at the stake, light into potential in plants, and so on), and matter such as minerals into organic?
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& relativity defines how "solid" something seems. If you didn't believe the wall was solid you could walk right through it... Like how kinetic energy sometimes does, or how certain radio waves just pass through them like they're not even there. A "higher vibration" is merely a state of BEing.

About the car; if your car was 'imaginary' then it would easily pass through the wall, but since you believe it is solid of course it'll interact with the wall as expected - because they both have their own 'gravity'. You've already set up parameters on how each should behave by merely perceiving it so.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


It follows from your example that the hardness of a wall depends on vibration. The lower the vibration frequency, the higher its density. If two bodies have the same frequencies, then they interact, but if the frequencies differ as Hz and MHz, then they do not perceive each other? Please correct me if I am wrong.
  “Gravity” - is there a property of an object to determine the interaction between bodies with the same (quantitatively and vectorially) quantities? I made a mistake?
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There are Kings and the King of Kings. Praise Him.

Logic is just a toy yes. Logic is a very fragile thing.
 Quoting: LKing


Well no. In a King of Kings model, the "sub kings" are called Lords. You can have multiple kings of different kingdoms, but you can't have multiple kings in one kingdom. A "King of" anything signifies a kingdom. Logically, there is no such thing as "King of kings". Only "King of Lords (vassals)".

Obviously my handle and the topic will seem out of sync, given who I am but like I said before, it's not directed at you and it's not directed at this thread either. The word king has more meanings than monarch. My handle is blending some of those meanings together alongside the common definition. It's a reminder of a book I loved as a kid :)
 Quoting: The Red King

What you said wasn't logical.

Praise the King of Kings.

Praise him.
 Quoting: LKing


Hey Lking. Don't cry.
 Quoting: The Red King


Thanks mate, are you well?
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Ha! Lk called it!! chuckle

Nice to see you again Nahoti hugs
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He did?! Smarty pants!! Thanks Cat, it's great to be back here interacting.
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Well I do have fantastic in-tuition.

But also Yes I am smart and whatchu saying about pants??? Pics for the boys???*smirk *
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Haha y'alright mate? I'm not a minger, so stop smirking! Lol nice to banter again L!
 Quoting: Nahoti

Lul wut??? You're cheeky I'm going to call you Cheeky.

So Cheeky why you sounding so British???
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Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact.

By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy.
 Quoting: The Red King



Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass?

The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream.

There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships.

So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that...


Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent.

1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing.

I'll say that again, slightly differently;

1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing.


PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic.


We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience?
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II

Oh it's not fight it's wrestling didn't you boys ever wrestle with your brothers???
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Anymore hot lurking chicks are welcome to Post. The boys boy dem appreciate a good ass and a great rack. Right boys???
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My phone has a translating feature that I just noticed a couple of weeks ago. It's pretty amazing. You just type your word or sentence and it's translating immediately to the language of your choice as you type.

My last sentence in the last post was me trying to be smart by adding "seems random" in Russian (for dear Raz) but apparently this website doesn't allow for other languages/characters than good ol' English.

I had to explain the random(ha!!) numbers and characters at the end of my last post.

Have a brilliant night all!! See you all soon (in the dream world, where we all interact with more clarity)
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Hot greeting.
If you want to communicate in Russian, write to the email address: [email protected] I think this idea is interesting.
  All the best!
 Quoting: razvitie


Hey friend! It's been great chatting with you today in Russian! Lol please any like minds here feel free to drop a word or two anytime [email protected]
 Quoting: Nahoti


Do I count Cheeky? I have to warn you though, I'm obviously adorable and absolutely amazing, so much so that you'll absolutely want to be associated with me for ever, ,so the choice has to be yours really??? *smirk*
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
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Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact.

By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy.
 Quoting: The Red King



Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass?

The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream.

There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships.

So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that...


Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent.

1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing.

I'll say that again, slightly differently;

1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing.


PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic.


We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience?
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz,

You continue to make assumptions. I suppose you like when I touch you here and there, adjusting your posture? Here are some more adjustments for you, just don't be so salty because I poked fun at your grasp of the neuronicons ;)

* Reread what I said about "needing to do". You'll see where you projected your misunderstanding into my words :)
* Lking didn't lick me. He tried and it turned out rather poorly for him. That's why he's acting out now and dropping references to some "game of thrones" drama cause it's all a game to him it sounds like.

I'm skipping most of the part where you're on your soapbox.

Final note, for your interest on contradictory natures. Did you notice how Lking affirms that logic is a toy, which you fundamentally disagree with? So are you pretending to be siding with LEROOOOOY JENKIIIIINNSSS

....because you just hate me more?

<3

edit: added a strikethrough because sounding outdated is what I get for reading and responding to one post at a time...while the thread has moved on to brighter waves hf
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Well no. In a King of Kings model, the "sub kings" are called Lords. You can have multiple kings of different kingdoms, but you can't have multiple kings in one kingdom. A "King of" anything signifies a kingdom. Logically, there is no such thing as "King of kings". Only "King of Lords (vassals)".

Obviously my handle and the topic will seem out of sync, given who I am but like I said before, it's not directed at you and it's not directed at this thread either. The word king has more meanings than monarch. My handle is blending some of those meanings together alongside the common definition. It's a reminder of a book I loved as a kid :)
 Quoting: The Red King

What you said wasn't logical.

Praise the King of Kings.

Praise him.
 Quoting: LKing


Hey Lking. Don't cry.
 Quoting: The Red King


Thanks mate, are you well?
 Quoting: LKing


Yeah man, loving life :)

Hey would you increase my clarity on the meaning of "mate"? I know it's a brit term I just want to make sure I understand how you're coming at me. Since...you say you don't bother with people who aren't useful to you and I bother a whole lot with making sure to be absolutely useless to people who treat others only as commodities. It makes me wonder why you're "bothering with" this guy tounge
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Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass?

The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream.

There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships.

So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that...


Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent.

1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing.

I'll say that again, slightly differently;

1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing.


PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic.


We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience?
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II

Oh it's not fight it's wrestling didn't you boys ever wrestle with your brothers???
 Quoting: LKing


Of course. Some of them even got salty when their win-loss ratio took a dip 1rof1
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
 Quoting: chaol 183770


norespect
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Hey there bud
If you wanna join the fun
It's not difficult :

Read the basics, make a Genius and come ask Ordoz, Lking, U3 and Nahoti for advice.

You're gonna want to catch the first couple pages, and mainly focus on OP's stuff. That's where he's presenting the core concepts to Introduce you to a new way of thinking. You'll find the instructions for making a Genius along the way.

And if you're unsure about anything, get your little butt over here and ask!

:)
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Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass?

The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream.

There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships.

So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that...


Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent.

1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing.

I'll say that again, slightly differently;

1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing.


PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic.


We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience?
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz,

You continue to make assumptions. I suppose you like when I touch you here and there, adjusting your posture? Here are some more adjustments for you, just don't be so salty because I poked fun at your grasp of the neuronicons ;)

* Reread what I said about "needing to do". You'll see where you projected your misunderstanding into my words :)
* Lking didn't lick me. He tried and it turned out rather poorly for him. That's why he's acting out now and dropping references to some "game of thrones" drama cause it's all a game to him it sounds like.

I'm skipping most of the part where you're on your soapbox.

Final note, for your interest on contradictory natures. Did you notice how Lking affirms that logic is a toy, which you fundamentally disagree with? So are you pretending to be siding with LEROOOOOY JENKIIIIINNSSS

....because you just hate me more?

<3

edit: added a strikethrough because sounding outdated is what I get for reading and responding to one post at a time...while the thread has moved on to brighter waves hf
 Quoting: Visual Sonik

Bruh, I've been licking you into licking shape ever since you first met me, and so far so good.

Anyone who knows you will acknowledge your progression.

Iron sharpens Iron.

Ordoz can tell me what logic is.

Order has to be restored.
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What you said wasn't logical.

Praise the King of Kings.

Praise him.
 Quoting: LKing


Hey Lking. Don't cry.
 Quoting: The Red King


Thanks mate, are you well?
 Quoting: LKing


Yeah man, loving life :)

Hey would you increase my clarity on the meaning of "mate"? I know it's a brit term I just want to make sure I understand how you're coming at me. Since...you say you don't bother with people who aren't useful to you and I bother a whole lot with making sure to be absolutely useless to people who treat others only as commodities. It makes me wonder why you're "bothering with" this guy tounge
 Quoting: Visual Sonik


Mate? Joke, You So cheeky, all this Trouble...Lord have mercy. But yeah, let me clarify.

Thanks Person I'm cool with on the internet.

And to proceed with the definition of people I'm cool with - I'm an awful friend, I literally cant be arsed or don't give a fuck about anyone not useful to me, but if we're cool then I'll see what'sup because it's cool because we're cool, and my man, we're just cool.
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Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II

Oh it's not fight it's wrestling didn't you boys ever wrestle with your brothers???
 Quoting: LKing


Of course. Some of them even got salty when their win-loss ratio took a dip 1rof1
 Quoting: Visual Sonik


Haha, You knooooow.
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Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz,

You continue to make assumptions. I suppose you like when I touch you here and there, adjusting your posture? Here are some more adjustments for you, just don't be so salty because I poked fun at your grasp of the neuronicons ;)

* Reread what I said about "needing to do". You'll see where you projected your misunderstanding into my words :)
* Lking didn't lick me. He tried and it turned out rather poorly for him. That's why he's acting out now and dropping references to some "game of thrones" drama cause it's all a game to him it sounds like.

I'm skipping most of the part where you're on your soapbox.

Final note, for your interest on contradictory natures. Did you notice how Lking affirms that logic is a toy, which you fundamentally disagree with? So are you pretending to be siding with LEROOOOOY JENKIIIIINNSSS

....because you just hate me more?

<3

edit: added a strikethrough because sounding outdated is what I get for reading and responding to one post at a time...while the thread has moved on to brighter waves hf
 Quoting: Visual Sonik

Bruh, I've been licking you into licking shape ever since you first met me, and so far so good.

Anyone who knows you will acknowledge your progression.

Iron sharpens Iron.

Ordoz can tell me what logic is.

Order has to be restored.
 Quoting: LKing

To expand on my logic = toy perspective

Logic is something which isn't something to be fucked with, and the toy reference was in regards to how it will play with you, and almost surprise you.
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Hey friend! It's been great chatting with you today in Russian! Lol please any like minds here feel free to drop a word or two anytime [email protected]
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You will be the happiest, there is no reason to doubt
May time be implacable, you are forever eighteen

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C dnem Rozhdenia! Happy Birthday!
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Thanks Raz. This is a beautiful song with heart warming lyrics. I really enjoyed it! hfhf
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He did?! Smarty pants!! Thanks Cat, it's great to be back here interacting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77420214


Well I do have fantastic in-tuition.

But also Yes I am smart and whatchu saying about pants??? Pics for the boys???*smirk *
 Quoting: LKing


Haha y'alright mate? I'm not a minger, so stop smirking! Lol nice to banter again L!
 Quoting: Nahoti

Lul wut??? You're cheeky I'm going to call you Cheeky.

So Cheeky why you sounding so British???
 Quoting: LKing


Let's just say I felt compelled to address you this way. I found this thread while still in the UK. Did a brexit before it became a thing via the utility of Le Genius. You can call me cheeky actually, it's realistic!
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
 Quoting: chaol 183770


norespect
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42325232


Hey there bud
If you wanna join the fun
It's not difficult :

Read the basics, make a Genius and come ask Ordoz, Lking, U3 and Nahoti for advice.

You're gonna want to catch the first couple pages, and mainly focus on OP's stuff. That's where he's presenting the core concepts to Introduce you to a new way of thinking. You'll find the instructions for making a Genius along the way.

And if you're unsure about anything, get your little butt over here and ask!

:)
 Quoting: Visual Sonik


Bless your heart Red King. Don't have all the answers but I do love to share what I know. How are you doing! Hope all is well hf
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Well I do have fantastic in-tuition.

But also Yes I am smart and whatchu saying about pants??? Pics for the boys???*smirk *
 Quoting: LKing


Haha y'alright mate? I'm not a minger, so stop smirking! Lol nice to banter again L!
 Quoting: Nahoti

Lul wut??? You're cheeky I'm going to call you Cheeky.

So Cheeky why you sounding so British???
 Quoting: LKing


Let's just say I felt compelled to address you this way. I found this thread while still in the UK. Did a brexit before it became a thing via the utility of Le Genius. You can call me cheeky actually, it's realistic!
 Quoting: Nahoti


Let's just say that compelling be funny. So you're like 7/8 years in CA what do you miss about the UK if anything at all??

I can tell you're cheeky by your tone. I would call you Trouble but i wouldn't go that far.
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Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment.

* I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book
* "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing)
* Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking.

To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs.
 Quoting: The Red King


I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ...

Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing.

Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not.

It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it.

If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life.

You can't get away from You.


PS: LeKing licks guns lol.
 Quoting: Ordoz II


Hi Ordoz,

You continue to make assumptions. I suppose you like when I touch you here and there, adjusting your posture? Here are some more adjustments for you, just don't be so salty because I poked fun at your grasp of the neuronicons ;)

* Reread what I said about "needing to do". You'll see where you projected your misunderstanding into my words :)
* Lking didn't lick me. He tried and it turned out rather poorly for him. That's why he's acting out now and dropping references to some "game of thrones" drama cause it's all a game to him it sounds like.

I'm skipping most of the part where you're on your soapbox.

Final note, for your interest on contradictory natures. Did you notice how Lking affirms that logic is a toy, which you fundamentally disagree with? So are you pretending to be siding with LEROOOOOY JENKIIIIINNSSS

....because you just hate me more?

<3

edit: added a strikethrough because sounding outdated is what I get for reading and responding to one post at a time...while the thread has moved on to brighter waves hf
 Quoting: Visual Sonik

Bruh, I've been licking you into licking shape ever since you first met me, and so far so good.

Anyone who knows you will acknowledge your progression.

Iron sharpens Iron.

Ordoz can tell me what logic is.

Order has to be restored.
 Quoting: LKing


The past is the past, person I’m cool with on the Internet!

I’ll listen to Ordoz on logic. I’d recommend the same to anyone who is serious about getting their Genius to “spin right propa”.

:)

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