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COVERUP AT LOS ALAMOS!!

 
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Mornin' bump for what it's worth... :)
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the MODIS pics from yesterday are partially obscured by clouds and todays pics are totally obscured..so I guess I'll just post pics again when/if there is an unobstructed view

it's now claimed to be 57% contained

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7-15 images..
[link to lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov]
7-15(1)

7-15(2)

7-15(3)

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Thx RTS! It still doesn't "feel right" to me... too quiet with this and Calhoun. No one knows better than you, eh? :)

Wish I could add something... I've had out of town company so not been able to track much. <<sigh>>

Did any info ever come out about the air samples from the fly-overs? I'll try to check that out tomorrow... I'm beat at the moment so have to head in.

Take care - hf

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I hope the smoke kills all of us to the man.
Grrrrr
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Thx RTS! It still doesn't "feel right" to me... too quiet with this and Calhoun. No one knows better than you, eh? :)

Wish I could add something... I've had out of town company so not been able to track much. <<sigh>>

Did any info ever come out about the air samples from the fly-overs? I'll try to check that out tomorrow... I'm beat at the moment so have to head in.

Take care - hf

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up until today they weren't admitting any radiation..now I guess they're admitting a tiny amount..

[link to enenews.com]

to be honest I haven't really been paying attention to what the gooberment 'officially' says because rest assured it's bs..

I'm more inclined to believe that guy in Minnesota that had a significant jump a day or so after the fire which was basically confirmed by the weather patterns shown in the weather archive imo..

as far as I know he knew nothing about a possible release at Los Alamos
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Thx RTS! It still doesn't "feel right" to me... too quiet with this and Calhoun. No one knows better than you, eh? :)

Wish I could add something... I've had out of town company so not been able to track much. <<sigh>>

Did any info ever come out about the air samples from the fly-overs? I'll try to check that out tomorrow... I'm beat at the moment so have to head in.

Take care - hf

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up until today they weren't admitting any radiation..now I guess they're admitting a tiny amount..

[link to enenews.com]

to be honest I haven't really been paying attention to what the gooberment 'officially' says because rest assured it's bs..

I'm more inclined to believe that guy in Minnesota that had a significant jump a day or so after the fire which was basically confirmed by the weather patterns shown in the weather archive imo..

as far as I know he knew nothing about a possible release at Los Alamos
 Quoting: RTS


I totally concur about the gooberment bs!! And , yes the guy from MN that had the spike was most intriguing... and you found the weather patterns for that time period which really gave his readings some credence.

Ty for all your hard work... Now I really am headed to bed ;)

hf
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Thx RTS! It still doesn't "feel right" to me... too quiet with this and Calhoun. No one knows better than you, eh? :)

Wish I could add something... I've had out of town company so not been able to track much. <<sigh>>

Did any info ever come out about the air samples from the fly-overs? I'll try to check that out tomorrow... I'm beat at the moment so have to head in.

Take care - hf

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up until today they weren't admitting any radiation..now I guess they're admitting a tiny amount..

[link to enenews.com]

to be honest I haven't really been paying attention to what the gooberment 'officially' says because rest assured it's bs..

I'm more inclined to believe that guy in Minnesota that had a significant jump a day or so after the fire which was basically confirmed by the weather patterns shown in the weather archive imo..

as far as I know he knew nothing about a possible release at Los Alamos
 Quoting: RTS


I totally concur about the gooberment bs!! And , yes the guy from MN that had the spike was most intriguing... and you found the weather patterns for that time period which really gave his readings some credence.

Ty for all your hard work... Now I really am headed to bed ;)

hf
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yw.. have a goodnight..hf
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I hope the smoke kills all of us to the man.
Grrrrr
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murat???

Thread: The radiation on my deck just tripled to 4.5 roentgens for the first time - that is the danger zone! (Page 5)

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Official: Radioactive materials around Los Alamos may get redistributed at “measurable” levels — “Sometimes that will manifest itself as a health advisory”

[New Mexico Environment Department's DOE Oversight Bureau chief Thomas Skibitski] said the department will be looking for radionuclides related to energy and weapons research, as well as industrialtype contaminants [...]

He said contaminants, such as those from atmospheric weapons testing that occurred 50-60 years ago, may get “remobilized and redistributed downstream” [...]

He said the department may find “measurable levels” of contaminants that don’t pose health or environmental risks, and standards may be exceeded during storm events. [...]

“Sometimes that will manifest itself as a health advisory,” he said. [...]
[link to enenews.com]

Difference between Los Alamos fire and other wild fires can be summed up in a single word: “Radiation” — More firefighters on way to battle blaze

Despite the prospect of rough conditions, sleeping in tents and surviving on camp rations, a crew of unfazed Farmington firefighters left for Los Alamos on Friday. [...]

Despite the major difference between the Los Alamos fire and other wild land fires, this crew wasn’t the least bit nervous. [...]

The difference can be summed up in a single word, “radiation,” [...]
[link to enenews.com]
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OP, did u catch the pin thread from yesterday on L.Alamos?

Confirmed your research
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OP, did u catch the pin thread from yesterday on L.Alamos?

Confirmed your research
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I looked through the pin history and didn't see it..got a link for that?
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[link to enenews.com]

Looks like you already covered it and these theads;

Los Alamos - "Another Kind of Fukushima?" Asks Whistleblower Robert Gilkeson Anonymous Coward 2 42
(2) 07/18/11
3:17 PM 07/18/11
3:39 PM
Official: Radioactive materials around Los Alamos may get redistributed at “measurable” levels — “Sometimes that will manifest itself as a health Anonymous Coward 3 48
(1) 07/18/11
11:02 AM 07/18/11
3:19 PM
BAD NEWS !!! Test results show Plutonium-239, Americium-241 and Cesium-137 levels in air around Los Alamos kingmicka 1 46
(1) 07/18/11
3:17 AM 07/18/11
3:19 AM
Test results show Plutonium-239, Americium-241 and Cesium-137 levels in air around Los Alamos (CHART) Anonymous Coward 13 174
(4) 07/16/11
3:00 PM 07/18/11
12:05 AM
Miracle at Los Alamos- fire came within 50 feet-saved by prayer Waterbug 1 39 N/A 07/17/11
1:00 PM 07/17/11
1:02 PM
**BREAKING** NUCLEAR SOUP IN LOS ALAMOS air test results show Plutonium, Cesium and Americium **BREAKING** Breath deep it will go away Quicker...
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[link to enenews.com]

Looks like you already covered it and these theads;

Los Alamos - "Another Kind of Fukushima?" Asks Whistleblower Robert Gilkeson Anonymous Coward 2 42
(2) 07/18/11
3:17 PM 07/18/11
3:39 PM
Official: Radioactive materials around Los Alamos may get redistributed at “measurable” levels — “Sometimes that will manifest itself as a health Anonymous Coward 3 48
(1) 07/18/11
11:02 AM 07/18/11
3:19 PM
BAD NEWS !!! Test results show Plutonium-239, Americium-241 and Cesium-137 levels in air around Los Alamos kingmicka 1 46
(1) 07/18/11
3:17 AM 07/18/11
3:19 AM
Test results show Plutonium-239, Americium-241 and Cesium-137 levels in air around Los Alamos (CHART) Anonymous Coward 13 174
(4) 07/16/11
3:00 PM 07/18/11
12:05 AM
Miracle at Los Alamos- fire came within 50 feet-saved by prayer Waterbug 1 39 N/A 07/17/11
1:00 PM 07/17/11
1:02 PM
**BREAKING** NUCLEAR SOUP IN LOS ALAMOS air test results show Plutonium, Cesium and Americium **BREAKING** Breath deep it will go away Quicker...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1189738

I remember posting on the soup thread^^I was hoping for a pin there but it never happened:(
as far as I know this thread is the only one thats been pinned on this subject and it got unpinned with only about 2500 or so views..
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I imagine it's pretty bad for those firefighters working right there and breathing in radioactive smoke. Of course, when they get lung cancer, they'll be told it's just a common health risk for firefighters anyway.
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Whistleblower: Los Alamos groundwater monitoring methods are hiding detection of contamination

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I learned why honest groundwater monitoring is crucial at LANL. Joni told us about the shocking amount of subsurface waste, “At LANL there are at least 21 million cubic feet of toxic, chemical and radioactive waste buried in unlined pits, trenches, and shafts, on mesa tops, and in the canyons, inside the lab property. During the 2011 Las Conchas Fire, the LANL Director informed the media that large amounts of LANL wastes are buried in unknown locations outside LANL property. Those pits inside and outside LANL are not lined. All that waste is moving towards our groundwater, and that’s why groundwater monitoring is so very important, but their monitoring methods are hiding the detection of contamination.” [...]

[link to www.climatestorytellers.org]
[link to www.countercurrents.org]
[link to www.truth-out.org]
[link to enenews.com]

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pics of Area G..

[link to www.climatestorytellers.org]

btw..the whistle blowers site Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety (CCNS) mentioned in the articles above is no longer available..

edit to add that is the same group that claimed Area G was located closer to White Rock and was 'safe' (page 1)

the plot deepens

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Thx RTS! It still doesn't "feel right" to me... too quiet with this and Calhoun. No one knows better than you, eh? :)

Wish I could add something... I've had out of town company so not been able to track much. <<sigh>>

Did any info ever come out about the air samples from the fly-overs? I'll try to check that out tomorrow... I'm beat at the moment so have to head in.

Take care - hf

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455519


up until today they weren't admitting any radiation..now I guess they're admitting a tiny amount..

[link to enenews.com]

to be honest I haven't really been paying attention to what the gooberment 'officially' says because rest assured it's bs..

I'm more inclined to believe that guy in Minnesota that had a significant jump a day or so after the fire which was basically confirmed by the weather patterns shown in the weather archive imo..

as far as I know he knew nothing about a possible release at Los Alamos
 Quoting: RTS


I totally concur about the gooberment bs!! And , yes the guy from MN that had the spike was most intriguing... and you found the weather patterns for that time period which really gave his readings some credence.

Ty for all your hard work... Now I really am headed to bed ;)

hf
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I just checked that link and it's been disabled..the search shows clouds over the ocean somewhere instead of CONUS which it's supposed to be showing

go figure

I'm looking for another source of archived info..theres gotta be something out there
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I hope the smoke kills all of us to the man.
Grrrrr
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Happy thoughts grouphug
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thats what yall get fucken satanist bastards
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Great thread RTS, I just keep coming back to it.

If only our media did anything that even approximated your level of analysis and reporting.

hf
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Thx RTS! It still doesn't "feel right" to me... too quiet with this and Calhoun. No one knows better than you, eh? :)

Wish I could add something... I've had out of town company so not been able to track much. <<sigh>>

Did any info ever come out about the air samples from the fly-overs? I'll try to check that out tomorrow... I'm beat at the moment so have to head in.

Take care - hf

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up until today they weren't admitting any radiation..now I guess they're admitting a tiny amount..

[link to enenews.com]

to be honest I haven't really been paying attention to what the gooberment 'officially' says because rest assured it's bs..

I'm more inclined to believe that guy in Minnesota that had a significant jump a day or so after the fire which was basically confirmed by the weather patterns shown in the weather archive imo..

as far as I know he knew nothing about a possible release at Los Alamos
 Quoting: RTS


I totally concur about the gooberment bs!! And , yes the guy from MN that had the spike was most intriguing... and you found the weather patterns for that time period which really gave his readings some credence.

Ty for all your hard work... Now I really am headed to bed ;)

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455519

I just checked that link and it's been disabled..the search shows clouds over the ocean somewhere instead of CONUS which it's supposed to be showing

go figure

I'm looking for another source of archived info..theres gotta be something out there
 Quoting: RTS

finally found what I was looking for after almost 3 weeks! Here's Infrared Satellite images from 6-27 to 7-2 which shows the smoke (imo) traveling from Los Alamos up to Minnesota on 7-1..the timestamps/dates are found at the top of each image..

6-27IR

6-28IR

6-29IR

6-30IR

7-1IR

7-2IR
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The Guy in charge of Area G has 'resigned'

The head of the resource protection division [which contained the hazardous waste bureau] at the New Mexico Environment Department has resigned [...]

The bureau is responsible for oversight and technical guidance related to the generation of hazardous waste as well as its storage and disposal.

This includes work at Sandia and Los Alamos laboratories and the federal government’s nuclear waste repository in southeastern New Mexico. [...]

[link to www.newswest9.com]
Thread: Head of New Mexico department dealing with hazardous waste at Los Alamos labs mysteriously resigns — Officials not providing any details

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Get the hell out of there.
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SFfiremap
[link to oi52.tinypic.com]

^this pic^ is a screenshot of a youtube video

found here: [link to austin.rcrwireless.com]

at around 3:57 in the video the woman at the Santa Fe fire command appears with a firemap in the background (that video was uploaded 5 days ago on the 15th)

I'm assuming that map is legit

I circled what I think might be the community of White Rock



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WOW! check this out..National Guard Helicopters WERE NOT allowed to help fight the fire..private contractors were used instead..

During the last four weeks, two powerful Blackhawk helicopters have sat on the ground at the Santa Fe airport. Inside a National Guard hangar nearby, a room full of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of firefighting equipment has been collecting dust while the largest fire in New Mexico burns close by.

The Las Conchas fire has burned over 240 square miles in the Jemez Mountains.

Since the first day of the fire on June 26, National Guard helicopter crews say they have watched the smoke plume above the airport and have anxiously waited for the call for help.

"It is frustrating our fire is right here on our backdoor and we can't go fight the fire," Lt. Col John Fishburn tells KOB Eyewitness News 4. "Apparently the forest service has the resources available."

When the calls for assistance did not come, officials with the National Guard said they began to call emergency managers offering to respond in the first few days of the fire. Weather forecasts showed high winds would have prevented water drops for most of the day.

Private helicopter contractors began making bucket drops during the second day of the fire.

more at [link to www.kob.com]
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cont.

Leaverton said the Blackhawks were unnecessary during the fire and would not have made a difference if they did fly.

"They weren't ordered because we had sufficient resources in the air and quite frankly they just weren't needed," he explained.

General Montoya disagreed.

"Will I feel bad in five years that we weren't dumping in Cochiti and Dixon? Yes, as bad as I feel right now," said Montoya, "But I also am disciplined enough to know that when there is a mission and there is somebody in charge that it's there profession and they are going in the right direction, we will follow their orders, but always be prepared for them to call."

KOB has requested numerous times to speak to the incident commanders of the Las Conchas Fire, but those requests have not been fulfilled.





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