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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1276986 Russia 06/30/2011 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074Yo buddy, dude... This is not a laughing matter for us here in the U.S. And the Fukushima experience should tell you that it shouldn't be a laughing matter for those in Germany, either. (Do you mind a STFU (for you own sake)?) Like Germany has any reason to laugh at the rest of the world... your country's history is about as glamorous as herpes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1437442 United States 06/30/2011 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074Yo buddy, dude... This is not a laughing matter for us here in the U.S. And the Fukushima experience should tell you that it shouldn't be a laughing matter for those in Germany, either. (Do you mind a STFU (for you own sake)?) Maybe he is laughing at the hopelessness of it all. Or perhaps at the irony. The original place where nuclear bombs were made is threatened by a fire that may burn some of the very same waste from that original bomb. People may be exposed to radiation from this. The nuclear weapons that were made to "save and protect us" will end up killing us. Maybe he is laughing at us here in the U.S. because we have allowed this to happen. Not intentionally, but are we not the ones who are free, democratic, responsible, in charge of everything? BTW, Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants. Maybe they will get the last laugh. Thanks for your concern... I don't hold this laughing guy at fault, after all I wrote "for yor own sake..." What the deals is, perhaps, one of the most well known sayings here in the U.S. is, "What goes around, comes around." In this case, that means that this highly radioactive stuff will be circling the globe for decades to come. I didn't mean anything bad for this poster. I just wanted to clue this guy in a bit, that's all. |
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(OP) User ID: 1388392 United States 06/30/2011 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear Watch New Mexico claims the waste site that everyone is worried about is located at a place called Technical Area 54.. Quoting: RTS[link to theintelhub.com] the Los Alamos website says the waste site is located at a place called Mesita Del Buey [link to www.lanl.gov] Mesita Del Buey is located at Technical Area 49 according to the Los Alamos map linked below [link to www.lasg.org] [link to maps.google.com] the MODIS maps on the link below show the fire approx 1 mile from Technical Area 49..those maps are from Monday night and have not been updated [link to wildfiretoday.com] 'the MODIS maps on the link below show the fire approx 1 mile from Technical Area 49..those maps are from Monday night and have not been updated' Regarding the Proximity of the Fire you discussed in the Above Quote ^^ I just listened to a Chap on BBC Radio 4/5 who works at the Lab and he said the Fire that was very close to the Area was an 'Controlled Burn' from what he was saying. But when pressed about the relative Safety of the Plutonium etc he kept on obfuscating. I was watching that link on Monday night and it appeared the maps were actually updating every five minutes or so..it seemed to me that the fire was advancing very quickly.. the maps on that link appeared to suddenly stop updating approx 1 mile before Mesita del Buey |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1448863 United States 06/30/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074Yo buddy, dude... This is not a laughing matter for us here in the U.S. And the Fukushima experience should tell you that it shouldn't be a laughing matter for those in Germany, either. (Do you mind a STFU (for you own sake)?) Maybe he is laughing at the hopelessness of it all. Or perhaps at the irony. The original place where nuclear bombs were made is threatened by a fire that may burn some of the very same waste from that original bomb. People may be exposed to radiation from this. The nuclear weapons that were made to "save and protect us" will end up killing us. Maybe he is laughing at us here in the U.S. because we have allowed this to happen. Not intentionally, but are we not the ones who are free, democratic, responsible, in charge of everything? BTW, Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants. Maybe they will get the last laugh. Thanks for your concern... I don't hold this laughing guy at fault, after all I wrote "for yor own sake..." What the deals is, perhaps, one of the most well known sayings here in the U.S. is, "What goes around, comes around." In this case, that means that this highly radioactive stuff will be circling the globe for decades to come. I didn't mean anything bad for this poster. I just wanted to clue this guy in a bit, that's all. Yea, I know what you mean. I hate it when people start cheering on the war, or the disaster. It is like they don't stop and think what it would be like if it was happening in their own back yard, to their kids, mom, or friend. Yea, we want change and if the world turned upside down it might look a lot better when it got sorted out. But hopefully we will have a say in that, not be unwilling victims. Another thing is everyone is on edge and I've seen tempers flare lately. It would be nice if we had a tangible deserving source for that anger besides each other. Since we really are not the cause of most of the lousy state of affairs we have found ourselves in. Where's Paul Revere when you need him? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440585 Mexico 06/30/2011 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and who will come running to your rescue? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440585Is it a Watchdog? Is it an MSM? Is it yo momma? No!! It's VIRAL RIOT DOG!! Coming soon to a 'marchy-riot' type situation near you ;) See him in action now, nosey... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266150 United States 06/30/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074Yo buddy, dude... This is not a laughing matter for us here in the U.S. And the Fukushima experience should tell you that it shouldn't be a laughing matter for those in Germany, either. (Do you mind a STFU (for you own sake)?) Maybe he is laughing at the hopelessness of it all. Or perhaps at the irony. The original place where nuclear bombs were made is threatened by a fire that may burn some of the very same waste from that original bomb. People may be exposed to radiation from this. The nuclear weapons that were made to "save and protect us" will end up killing us. Maybe he is laughing at us here in the U.S. because we have allowed this to happen. Not intentionally, but are we not the ones who are free, democratic, responsible, in charge of everything? BTW, Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants. Maybe they will get the last laugh. No, he isn't, but you sure are. |
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(OP) User ID: 1388392 United States 06/30/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Los Alamos Land Fire on 2 sides of Lab, Chemical Area's 8 &49 Confrimed Burning ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1438332What do you think, OP? Legitimate? for OP's opinion. I know you have studied the maps more than I have. I hope you are still online... I was catching up on my sleep thanks for that video..I totally missed that huge area of 54 which is actually closer to Mesita del Buey then Area 49.. my concern with any cover up now is leaning towards possible tampering with the MODIS maps.. but I was at least partially wrong about this already so don't quote me on that |
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J.H.F.C. User ID: 1437442 United States 06/30/2011 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437442Yo buddy, dude... This is not a laughing matter for us here in the U.S. And the Fukushima experience should tell you that it shouldn't be a laughing matter for those in Germany, either. (Do you mind a STFU (for you own sake)?) Maybe he is laughing at the hopelessness of it all. Or perhaps at the irony. The original place where nuclear bombs were made is threatened by a fire that may burn some of the very same waste from that original bomb. People may be exposed to radiation from this. The nuclear weapons that were made to "save and protect us" will end up killing us. Maybe he is laughing at us here in the U.S. because we have allowed this to happen. Not intentionally, but are we not the ones who are free, democratic, responsible, in charge of everything? BTW, Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants. Maybe they will get the last laugh. Thanks for your concern... I don't hold this laughing guy at fault, after all I wrote "for yor own sake..." What the deals is, perhaps, one of the most well known sayings here in the U.S. is, "What goes around, comes around." In this case, that means that this highly radioactive stuff will be circling the globe for decades to come. I didn't mean anything bad for this poster. I just wanted to clue this guy in a bit, that's all. Yea, I know what you mean. I hate it when people start cheering on the war, or the disaster. It is like they don't stop and think what it would be like if it was happening in their own back yard, to their kids, mom, or friend. Yea, we want change and if the world turned upside down it might look a lot better when it got sorted out. But hopefully we will have a say in that, not be unwilling victims. Another thing is everyone is on edge and I've seen tempers flare lately. It would be nice if we had a tangible deserving source for that anger besides each other. Since we really are not the cause of most of the lousy state of affairs we have found ourselves in. Where's Paul Revere when you need him? In my no-so-humble opinion, "Paul Revere" (or the closest thing to him) is GLP. And that is what I believe and that is why I am here. (MAYBE, YOU, TOO!) J.H.F.C. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1438332 United States 06/30/2011 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Los Alamos Land Fire on 2 sides of Lab, Chemical Area's 8 &49 Confrimed Burning ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1438332What do you think, OP? Legitimate? for OP's opinion. I know you have studied the maps more than I have. I hope you are still online... I was catching up on my sleep thanks for that video..I totally missed that huge area of 54 which is actually closer to Mesita del Buey then Area 49.. my concern with any cover up now is leaning towards possible tampering with the MODIS maps.. but I was at least partially wrong about this already so don't quote me on that Well, kudos for your efforts, and double kudos for being able to admit when you might be wrong. I can respect that. All I know is that if nuclear waste does become aerosolized or HAS become aerosolized, we will figure it out here with each other loooong before it is made public by the MSM. That's how it was with Fukushima, and I would imagine this will not be any different. I appreciate your efforts and those of the others on this thread. I'm usually an A #1 member / co-researcher on these crisis type threads, but I honestly think I have disaster fatigue. I can't look at another map or projection, not today. So,thanks for being at the forefront and trying your best to figure this out. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1388392 United States 06/30/2011 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | imao what this means is that there is a distinct possibility that the waste site has already been incinerated..most likely on Monday night Quoting: RTSCan you provide any factual links to back up your wild claim? Has the rate of cancer increased exponentially with your cloudedgrossly influenced 'thoughts' me thought not. like I said in a earlier post it seemed the MODIS maps suddenly stopped updating about a mile before reaching Mesita del Buey the fire was raging on monday night and even though I'm no expert common sense tells me that a controlled burn would not have slowed it down.. I still think there is a distinct possibility that the waste site burned just based on that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 455519 United States 06/30/2011 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | imao what this means is that there is a distinct possibility that the waste site has already been incinerated..most likely on Monday night Quoting: RTSCan you provide any factual links to back up your wild claim? Has the rate of cancer increased exponentially with your cloudedgrossly influenced 'thoughts' me thought not. like I said in a earlier post it seemed the MODIS maps suddenly stopped updating about a mile before reaching Mesita del Buey the fire was raging on monday night and even though I'm no expert common sense tells me that a controlled burn would not have slowed it down.. I still think there is a distinct possibility that the waste site burned just based on that Sadly those are my exact thoughts, as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1448783 United States 06/30/2011 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | STUPIDEST "OFFICIAL STATEMENT" OF ALL TIME!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446885Lab spokeswoman Lisa Rosendorf said a section known as Area G holds drums of cleanup from Cold War-era waste that the lab sends away for storage in weekly shipments. Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] THEY SHIP IT BY THE OUNCE.......??????????????? I posted a comment last night about that . . . what does it mean, how long have they been shipping it "weekly"?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331542 United States 06/30/2011 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does that mean it's pretty much going up north? how long has it been like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331542I thought because of the jet stream, everything went east The intellicast map I posted is local winds at ground level, I believe. [link to www.intellicast.com] The jet stream is miles up. Here is a jet stream map: [link to www.weather.com] If someone has a more accurate explanation, PLEASE chime in! ah, that explains it. Thanks! do we know how high the plume is? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1438332 United States 06/30/2011 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does that mean it's pretty much going up north? how long has it been like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331542I thought because of the jet stream, everything went east The intellicast map I posted is local winds at ground level, I believe. [link to www.intellicast.com] The jet stream is miles up. Here is a jet stream map: [link to www.weather.com] If someone has a more accurate explanation, PLEASE chime in! ah, that explains it. Thanks! do we know how high the plume is? I do not know. We need a meteorologist - even an amateur one. I am in Texas, and I don't worry about myself as much as my children. :: deep sigh:: More so than that, I am really worried for the people north of this beast! I'll try to do some research on plume height and forest fires. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1448783 United States 06/30/2011 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not know. We need a meteorologist - even an amateur one. I am in Texas, and I don't worry about myself as much as my children. :: deep sigh:: More so than that, I am really worried for the people north of this beast! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1438332I'll try to do some research on plume height and forest fires. I'm in Texas, too, and have asked here for a more concise explanation of exactly what's going on out there and WHAT is at the lab, how easily and how far it could be dispersed, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1438332 United States 06/30/2011 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does that mean it's pretty much going up north? how long has it been like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331542I thought because of the jet stream, everything went east The intellicast map I posted is local winds at ground level, I believe. [link to www.intellicast.com] The jet stream is miles up. Here is a jet stream map: [link to www.weather.com] If someone has a more accurate explanation, PLEASE chime in! ah, that explains it. Thanks! do we know how high the plume is? Any physicists on board who can take a look at these equations and make some sense of them? This is really not my forte. "Fire Plume Model (Brown et al., 1999) FIREPLUME model was developed to simulate atmospheric dispersion and air quality impacts from fires and other smoke source. The FIREPLUME model predicts the ground-level concentration field resulting from chemicals emitted from or within 1) instantaneously discharged thermals or explosive discharges, 2) fires that generate hot continuous plumes 3) smoldering or decaying fires. FIREPLUME model is an extension of a Monte Carlo Lagrangian particle model (MCLDM). The ability to treat buoyant plumes was added to MCLDM in support of an impact analysis for fire. In this model, plume rise of fires can be calculated according to the Brigg’s two-thirds law, which is applicable in cases where the buoyancy source has low initial momentum. Fires clearly fall into this category." Link and equations: [link to www.crwr.utexas.edu] |
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User ID: 1442750 Australia 06/30/2011 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your enemy needs only to sit one of those casks on top of an explosive device and you'd all be their bitches. -Instead you are the N.R.C.s' oh the paradox. Last Edited by The Trawl on 06/30/2011 02:42 AM If a designed reality can pacify a nut-job. That fantasy will only subdue a free thinker.The Trawl |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1438332 United States 06/30/2011 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not know. We need a meteorologist - even an amateur one. I am in Texas, and I don't worry about myself as much as my children. :: deep sigh:: More so than that, I am really worried for the people north of this beast! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1438332I'll try to do some research on plume height and forest fires. I'm in Texas, too, and have asked here for a more concise explanation of exactly what's going on out there and WHAT is at the lab, how easily and how far it could be dispersed, etc. I'm sure there are others who have looked at this issue in greater depth than I have. However, I think that information is scarce because Los Alamos is a top secret facility, and they don't make public what they do there and exactly what is stored in the waste. So, trying to figure that out is like trying to piece together an obscure puzzle, the pieces of which are scattered across various documents, some rather old and not likely to be entirely accurate. Unfortunately, if you are expecting someone to give you a straight answer - well, if they had all the pieces, they could. But, from what I have seen that is not the case. It's just not that simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1437442 United States 06/30/2011 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Original Article is 942 words. This snippet is 338 words, less that 36% of the full article (above may target number of 33%, but below the GLP required 50%...) Quote: This report further notes that the “cover-up” of this nuclear disaster by President Obama is being based on his “fantasy” of creating so-called green jobs which he (strangely) includes nuclear power into as his efforts to bankrupt the US coal industry proceed at a record breaking pace. Unknown to the American people about Obama’s “war” on the US coal industry is it’s estimated to cost them over a 60% increase in their electricity bills by 2014 and cause over 250,000 jobs to be lost in an already beleaguered economy. More ominous for those American people whose lives depend on the coal industry that is being deliberately destroyed is the Obama regime’s massive “security exercise” currently ongoing in the major coal mining States of Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia, and as we can read about, in part, as reported by InfoWars.Com: “If you’re still living under the delusion that the TSA is just restricted to airports then think again. A joint VIPR “security exercise” involving military personnel has Transportation Security Administration workers covering 5,000 miles and three states, illustrating once again how the TSA is turning into a literal occupying army for domestic repression in America. The TSA, in alliance with a whole host of federal, state, local agencies as well as military personnel, is currently conducting a massive “security exercise” throughout Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia. “The participating teams are composed of a variety of TSA assets including federal air marshals, canine teams, inspectors and bomb appraisal officers. They will be joined by state and local law enforcement officials to supplement existing resources, provide detection and response capabilities. The exercise will utilize multiple airborne assets, including Blackhawk helicopters and fixed wing aircraft as well as waterborne and surface teams,” reports the Marietta Times. Although the exercise is couched in serious rhetoric about preparedness, it relates to “no specific threat” and the details are nebulous to say the least and seems to revolve around little else than testing out high-tech surveillance equipment and reminding Americans who their bosses are.” -endquote... (Words = 338) Source: [link to www.whatdoesitmean.com] So here's the story... President Barack Hussein O'Bama, a man of peace and a man of the people, was greatly supported by the nuclear industry (power, medicine, research, bombs, depleted uranium, TSA nude picture scanners, space based weapons, and whatever else these maniacs are doing with radioactive material). Naturally, this means direct competition with other "energy" forms (which, coincidently, are NOT medicine, research, bombs, depleted uranium, TSA nude picture scanners, space based weapons,etc...) such as coal which is abundant in the U.S. and shows much promise as a "clean" energy burning fuel. So... So, (in simply and easy to understand language..) who the fuck has to get whacked So all his campaign donors can reap the just rewards of their investment? (Answer: Coal, if course!) (I mean, you can't make depleted uranium out of coal, can you????) Anyway, if this is the way that our duly elected President (just forget about all that birth certificate shit!) wishes to rule, it is our duty (as PATRIOTS (as in the ACT)) to obey (and while we're at it, why don't we get down (facing Washington, of course) and pray to our divine ruler who was sent by god to relieve us of all pain and sorrow. (I'm literally about to barf, so I have to end this by asking...) Who the fuck voted for this ... (dammit, I don't want to get banned again, so just think of the worst thing you can possibly think of.) And May God Bless America and May God Protect this Country in ALL Her Wars. Bless Our Police and Our TSA, And Especially, Our Supreme Court who Supports ALL of Our Corporations (Even Fucking ENRON!!!) in ALL of Their Efforts (Especially in Electing Our Great President and Protecting Him from Harm (especially in the fake birth certificate thing). And May God Protect Our President from Any and All Harm (Including IMPEACHMENT) and May God Bless Us All for Supporting Obama Till the Very Last Gasp of Our Very Last Breath!) In the Name of Jesus, Our Lord (or Yahwey for you Jewish Guys or Allah for you Muslims) Amen (who was an Egyptian diety (which is why they have an Egyptian Obleisk in Washingto DC and in the front yard of the Vatican!) (I admit this may be difficult to read, but I had a lot of fun writing it, so WGAF!!![/b] (which has not been approved as a standard GLP abbreviation, but it stands for "Who Gives a Fuck!!!") Good Night, you all! And Pleasant Dreams! J.H.F.C. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1438332 United States 06/30/2011 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BINGO!! NOAA wildfire smoke dispersion map, June 30, 2011 [link to www.firedetect.noaa.gov] (You can zoom in) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1448783 United States 06/30/2011 03:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not know. We need a meteorologist - even an amateur one. I am in Texas, and I don't worry about myself as much as my children. :: deep sigh:: More so than that, I am really worried for the people north of this beast! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1438332I'll try to do some research on plume height and forest fires. I'm in Texas, too, and have asked here for a more concise explanation of exactly what's going on out there and WHAT is at the lab, how easily and how far it could be dispersed, etc. I'm sure there are others who have looked at this issue in greater depth than I have. However, I think that information is scarce because Los Alamos is a top secret facility, and they don't make public what they do there and exactly what is stored in the waste. So, trying to figure that out is like trying to piece together an obscure puzzle, the pieces of which are scattered across various documents, some rather old and not likely to be entirely accurate. Unfortunately, if you are expecting someone to give you a straight answer - well, if they had all the pieces, they could. But, from what I have seen that is not the case. It's just not that simple. Thanks for the reply . . . yes, you are right, it's a convoluted, confusing mess. |
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(OP) User ID: 1388392 United States 06/30/2011 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for your diligence in keeping an accurate and updated thread. Quoting: Armgettinyayw.. I'm sort of disappointed that this thread didn't get more views then it did..I probably should have taken the posters advice on page 1 and come up with a more sensationalized thread title to attract more views.. I'll work on coming up with a better one |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1448611 Germany 06/30/2011 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for your diligence in keeping an accurate and updated thread. Quoting: Armgettinyayw.. I'm sort of disappointed that this thread didn't get more views then it did..I probably should have taken the posters advice on page 1 and come up with a more sensationalized thread title to attract more views.. I'll work on coming up with a better one |