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Jesus NEVER existed.

 
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Mistake number one? Christianity is not a Jewish based religión in my opinión, no matter what you have been told?
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Oh crap on.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


Again, dont repeat what others tell you to but think for yourself:

What you do to others you do to yourself ( or if you prefer the tsandard translation :do unto others as you would have them do to you) because THIS IS THE LAW AND THE PROFIT ( not prophet)..It is the Universal Law or Retribution

You think He was referring to the old Law? He changed every bit of it didn´t he?= or haven´t you read His Sermon Of The Mount?
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Dont just regurgitate what others tell you or you hear, most havent a clue in hell,think for yourself. Christ is much more tan most say or think he is, when you understand this you will understand his message which is absolutely spiritually revolutionary
hf
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Utter rubbish.

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (35) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.(36) And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.”

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: (52) For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. (53) The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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 Quoting: Lamplite


It was a prophecy of how his Word of love would be used as weapon to hate and divide

the second quote means that One must place Christ and God before all earthly attachments and ties, but I think and believe he would never use the Word hate (remember you are Reading a translated text)
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Mistake number one? Christianity is not a Jewish based religión in my opinión, no matter what you have been told?
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Oh crap on.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


Again, dont repeat what others tell you to but think for yourself:

What you do to others you do to yourself ( or if you prefer the tsandard translation :do unto others as you would have them do to you) because THIS IS THE LAW AND THE PROFIT ( not prophet)..It is the Universal Law or Retribution

You think He was referring to the old Law? He changed every bit of it didn´t he?= or haven´t you read His Sermon Of The Mount?
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Rubbish, he was an evil fuck who never existed.
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Mistake number one? Christianity is not a Jewish based religión in my opinión, no matter what you have been told?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


Oh crap on.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


Again, dont repeat what others tell you to but think for yourself:

What you do to others you do to yourself ( or if you prefer the tsandard translation :do unto others as you would have them do to you) because THIS IS THE LAW AND THE PROFIT ( not prophet)..It is the Universal Law or Retribution

You think He was referring to the old Law? He changed every bit of it didn´t he?= or haven´t you read His Sermon Of The Mount?
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Rubbish, he was an evil fuck who never existed.
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You are contradicting yourself
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uestion is: Why do you hate him? because thats it isnt it opie? you hate him dont you? why?

How can one hate love?

How can one also hate someone who never existed?
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uestion is: Why do you hate him? because thats it isnt it opie? you hate him dont you? why?

How can one hate love?

How can one also hate someone who never existed?
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Because he never represented love but rather HATE.

Look at the verses I posted above, they are not words of love but rather hate.

Thread: FOUL STATEMENTS made by JESUS and GOD
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Here is some more of the evil of Jesus who fortunately never existed.


John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 3:12 And now also the ax is laid to the root of the trees: therefore every tree which brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (11) I indeed baptize you with water to repentance. but he that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear. he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire. (12) Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
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uestion is: Why do you hate him? because thats it isnt it opie? you hate him dont you? why?

How can one hate love?

How can one also hate someone who never existed?
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Because he never represented love but rather HATE.

Look at the verses I posted above, they are not words of love but rather hate.

Thread: FOUL STATEMENTS made by JESUS and GOD
 Quoting: Lamplite


Hey Lamplite

How has your day been, and what you been up to besides this thread?

You are loved.

red_heart
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Here is some more of the evil of Jesus who fortunately never existed.


John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 3:12 And now also the ax is laid to the root of the trees: therefore every tree which brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (11) I indeed baptize you with water to repentance. but he that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear. he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire. (12) Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
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 Quoting: Lamplite


Why do you speak out against him so much and persecute other Christians? Why Lamplite.
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The landlord has the right to clean up his own property. If renters are trashing the place, eventually you evict them.

Seems GOD has been overly patient waiting for mankind to change . Eventually we are out of time. Contracts expire.
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If you don't believe in Jesus, and you don't believe the words of the bible, so why do you quote from it?
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Here is some more of the evil of Jesus who fortunately never existed.


John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 3:12 And now also the ax is laid to the root of the trees: therefore every tree which brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (11) I indeed baptize you with water to repentance. but he that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear. he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire. (12) Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
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 Quoting: Lamplite


Why do you speak out against him so much and persecute other Christians? Why Lamplite.
 Quoting: fireman2013


So "speak against him" = quoting scripture? Interesting.

 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Lots of people quote scripture, and lamplite already admits she isn't a christian.

I suspect you are a homosexual going by your avatar and strong stance against Christianity.
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I like John 5


You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

41“I do not accept glory from human beings, 42but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44 How can you believe since you accept glory from one another but do not seek the glory that comes from the only God ?

Jesus was not about religion.

Religions are why everyone is so confused.
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John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

another words.. you will never know truth leaving the vine of truth. People following all the different religions with their own ways, are not on the vine but separated.

When you are pruned, you are made clean, pure, and grow up and become the tree of life within. A tall flowering tree. No one needs to teach you, because you and Christ are one.

You are given a New Heart, Christ's heart:)

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stay on the vine:)

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Herd when jesuz was growing up in certian hidden manuscripts. ; uuuhuuum that before some punk didnt realize his power not meaning jc, this punk got his hand deformed later to be restored.thus the hidden scripts. Better stay that way.
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I don't need to read all of Lamplite's evidence to know Christianity is bull.

All I have to do is read and observe the ignorance and vitriol of its followers in this thread.
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applause2
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John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

another words.. you will never know truth leaving the vine of truth. People following all the different religions with their own ways, are not on the vine but separated.

When you are pruned, you are made clean, pure, and grow up and become the tree of life within. A tall flowering tree. No one needs to teach you, because you and Christ are one.

 Quoting: New Heart


No

You know as well as any Christian does this quote means if you are not a christian, if you do not follow Christ you get burned.

So stop bullshitting. It was a Jesus threat of which there are many.
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do what you want. No one is twisting your arm. I will remain In Christ. Stop trying to control others thoughts.

I am no part of any thought control. I got out a long time ago.
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John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

another words.. you will never know truth leaving the vine of truth. People following all the different religions with their own ways, are not on the vine but separated.

When you are pruned, you are made clean, pure, and grow up and become the tree of life within. A tall flowering tree. No one needs to teach you, because you and Christ are one.

 Quoting: New Heart


No

You know as well as any Christian does this quote means if you are not a christian, if you do not follow Christ you get burned.

So stop bullshitting. It was a Jesus threat of which there are many.
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it means you will not know your true ancient higher self within. You wont remember, and remain asleep, in the grave.

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do what you want. No one is twisting your arm. I will remain In Christ. Stop trying to control others thoughts.

I am no part of any thought control. I got out a long time ago.
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hugs
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do what you want. No one is twisting your arm. I will remain In Christ. Stop trying to control others thoughts.

I am no part of any thought control. I got out a long time ago.
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hugs
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it means you will not know your true ancient higher self within. You wont remember, and remain asleep, in the grave.

 Quoting: New Heart


Rubbish, you believe in a religion which was designed to make you an ignorant fuck.

And look it worked.

I bet you have not looked outside your religion, not examined where it started, what it's true foundations are.
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How typical. Humanity is immersed in utter darkness and sin. As the end time prophecies said love would be noted for its absence as people will be lovers of themselves, vain and arrogant and without natural love towards others.

Christ, his teachings, are a light in this bog and you trash him? when his words can give you solace and hope? how silly and self defeating is that?

So what do you have to hold on to? What gives you hope for the future?

Oh and pleasze dont judge Christ by any of His followers. Christ is Christ not His followers. We try to be like him but obviously we arent or we would be turning water into wine for starters, no matter how pious we would like to think we are
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How typical. Humanity is immersed in utter darkness and sin. As the end time prophecies said love would be noted for its absence as people will be lovers of themselves, vain and arrogant and without natural love towards others.

Christ, his teachings, are a light in this bog and you trash him? when his words can give you solace and hope? how silly and self defeating is that?

So what do you have to hold on to? What gives you hope for the future?

Oh and pleasze dont judge Christ by any of His followers. Christ is Christ not His followers. We try to be like him but obviously we arent or we would be turning water into wine for starters, no matter how pious we would like to think we are
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The last two thousand years have been darkness.

Darkness caused by Christianity.

Remember the witch burning and the Spanish Inquisition?

WAKE UP already.

Finally people have the ability to distance themselves from the poison that is Christ and thankfully most see it for the darkness that it is and are leaving.
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How typical. Humanity is immersed in utter darkness and sin. As the end time prophecies said love would be noted for its absence as people will be lovers of themselves, vain and arrogant and without natural love towards others.

Christ, his teachings, are a light in this bog and you trash him? when his words can give you solace and hope? how silly and self defeating is that?

So what do you have to hold on to? What gives you hope for the future?

Oh and pleasze dont judge Christ by any of His followers. Christ is Christ not His followers. We try to be like him but obviously we arent or we would be turning water into wine for starters, no matter how pious we would like to think we are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


The last two thousand years have been darkness.

Darkness caused by Christianity.

Remember the witch burning and the Spanish Inquisition?

WAKE UP already.

Finally people have the ability to distance themselves from the poison that is Christ and thankfully most see it for the darkness that it is and are leaving.
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 Quoting: Lamplite


With all due respect your knowledge of history is either biased or limited in my opinion.Humand have always found good excuses to kill eachother off on a regular basis so it is obvious that religion would be used too

As Christ said..his words would be used as a sword..his words of love..it was a prophecy that sadly has happened

Christ is the light and the way to paradise..an inner state of joy and peace and a way of living that it manifests in

If his teachings were enacted between the scripture quoting,singing and the Halleluyas..this world would be quite different indeed

Firstly we would treat eachother lovingly and with exquisite kindness and gentleness

Then we would love even our enemies ..who would no longer be enemies

We would give when asked..without expecting anything in return

we would forgive everyone

We would not return harm with harm..but would turn the other cheek..because the reward is not a physical victory but a spiritual one

it would be a paradise of love, peace and forgiveness

But too many prefer to keep Christ locked behind temple doors and limited to a personal punctual oration..instead of living his message of love
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I am out of all the binding of religious dogmas. I came out in 03.


It was Christ who appeared as (The White Horse)who pulled me out.


Those spirit born follow no one on earth.
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it means you will not know your true ancient higher self within. You wont remember, and remain asleep, in the grave.

 Quoting: New Heart


Rubbish, you believe in a religion which was designed to make you an ignorant fuck.

And look it worked.

I bet you have not looked outside your religion, not examined where it started, what it's true foundations are.
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Christ isn't religions.
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