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Jesus NEVER existed.

 
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Its not thr righteousness that saves

its not the ipousness that saves

its the love

and Christ was love in absolute

you dont love him because you dont know him
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Its not thr righteousness that saves

its not the piousness that saves

its the love

and Christ was love in absolute

you dont love him because you dont know him
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The bible is kind of like a software agreement. No one really reads it they just skip to the end and click "I Agree"
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Some people will latch onto all sorts of rubbish to get around the commandments. They argue in circles because they hate the idea that they are guilty of sin.
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The bible is kind of like a software agreement. No one really reads it they just skip to the end and click "I Agree"
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that's not a bad analogy, accept that you need to use your heart to tick the box and if your heart is not strong enough to do that it won't be able to continue.
Alive In Jesus Christ
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The bible is kind of like a software agreement. No one really reads it they just skip to the end and click "I Agree"
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chuckle ok..thats funny...lol :)
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The bible is kind of like a software agreement. No one really reads it they just skip to the end and click "I Agree"
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OH my god anon. That is the quote OF THE FLIPPING CENTURY.

+1000 XP.
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no-one in a near death experience ever got saved by Buddha or Allah, they all get saved by Jesus.

I wonder why.....

oh that's right because he is real...
 Quoting: fireman2013


Wow you are a liar buddy!! If there was a hell you would be going to it.

See here:

The entire experience halted. I discovered that I was in control of the experience. My request was honored. I had conversations with the Light. That's the best way I can describe it. The Light changed into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, archetypal images and signs. I asked in a kind of telepathy, "What is going on here?"

The information transmitted was that our beliefs shape the kind of feedback we receive. If you are a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own images. I became aware of a Higher Self matrix, a conduit to the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being, a conduit. All Higher Selves are connected as one being. All humans are connected as one being.

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]
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NEITHER CAN "THE TRUTH"...

BE DISTROYED OR CREATED...

PROOF...

"THE TRUTH" WAS...

IS...

AND IS TO COME!!!

YOU CAN NOT DISTROY A FACT!!!

"THE TRUTH" IS JESUS CHRIST!!!
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The Gospel of Caesar

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NEITHER CAN "THE TRUTH"...

BE DISTROYED OR CREATED...

PROOF...

"THE TRUTH" WAS...

IS...

AND IS TO COME!!!

YOU CAN NOT DISTROY A FACT!!!

"THE TRUTH" IS JESUS CHRIST!!!
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Jesus would have never existed without the Gospels, where-as Luke Skywalker would never existed without Star-Wars.

Do you not realise that Human Beings are creative and write Books , that all the Jesus, Moses, Muhammads, are Fictional Characters .

John 1:1
In the Beginning was the Word
Word was with the God
Word was God
(Authors write with "Word", John an "Author" was stressing , that "God" is Word (Which he wrote), as a All-Word Fictional Character, and the Word
was written in "Greek"

Revelations
I am Alpha and Omega
(I am the Greek Alphabet , Jesus is ALL Word, Fictitious)
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no-one in a near death experience ever got saved by Buddha or Allah, they all get saved by Jesus.

I wonder why.....

oh that's right because he is real...
 Quoting: fireman2013


Wow you are a liar buddy!! If there was a hell you would be going to it.

See here:

The entire experience halted. I discovered that I was in control of the experience. My request was honored. I had conversations with the Light. That's the best way I can describe it. The Light changed into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, archetypal images and signs. I asked in a kind of telepathy, "What is going on here?"

The information transmitted was that our beliefs shape the kind of feedback we receive. If you are a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own images. I became aware of a Higher Self matrix, a conduit to the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being, a conduit. All Higher Selves are connected as one being. All humans are connected as one being.

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]
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THIS... OMG I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BUT DIDNT HAVE THE GUTS TO!!!

Everything that happens to you in the afterlife is what you percieve it to be
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to me religions are this...

idols.:goldencalf:
 Quoting: New Heart

Ok thats one step in the right direction. now look at the historical evidence for jesus. Not much at all.

And by the way, even if you "saw" jesus in a vision does not mean that he is real. buddhists also claim to see visions of buddha at times. whats going on if visions are completely trust worthy?
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I have reasons. I have been to ancient places.
 Quoting: New Heart


ancient places have nothing to do with the validity of visions.
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not on earth
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no-one in a near death experience ever got saved by Buddha or Allah, they all get saved by Jesus.

I wonder why.....

oh that's right because he is real...
 Quoting: fireman2013


Wow you are a liar buddy!! If there was a hell you would be going to it.

See here:

The entire experience halted. I discovered that I was in control of the experience. My request was honored. I had conversations with the Light. That's the best way I can describe it. The Light changed into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, archetypal images and signs. I asked in a kind of telepathy, "What is going on here?"

The information transmitted was that our beliefs shape the kind of feedback we receive. If you are a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own images. I became aware of a Higher Self matrix, a conduit to the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being, a conduit. All Higher Selves are connected as one being. All humans are connected as one being.

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509

THIS... OMG I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BUT DIDNT HAVE THE GUTS TO!!!

Everything that happens to you in the afterlife is what you percieve it to be
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


I'm hear to help.
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Ok thats one step in the right direction. now look at the historical evidence for jesus. Not much at all.

And by the way, even if you "saw" jesus in a vision does not mean that he is real. buddhists also claim to see visions of buddha at times. whats going on if visions are completely trust worthy?
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


I have reasons. I have been to ancient places.
 Quoting: New Heart


ancient places have nothing to do with the validity of visions.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


not on earth
 Quoting: New Heart


Exactly then leave the argument to implode. we are discussing the validity or non validity of "jesus".

Seeing ancient places has no bearing on that WHATSOEVER.

But yeah, i do see where you are coming from. seeing i believe in reincarnation, i have probably been ALOT of places in this universe.
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no-one in a near death experience ever got saved by Buddha or Allah, they all get saved by Jesus.

I wonder why.....

oh that's right because he is real...
 Quoting: fireman2013


Wow you are a liar buddy!! If there was a hell you would be going to it.

See here:

The entire experience halted. I discovered that I was in control of the experience. My request was honored. I had conversations with the Light. That's the best way I can describe it. The Light changed into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, archetypal images and signs. I asked in a kind of telepathy, "What is going on here?"

The information transmitted was that our beliefs shape the kind of feedback we receive. If you are a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own images. I became aware of a Higher Self matrix, a conduit to the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being, a conduit. All Higher Selves are connected as one being. All humans are connected as one being.

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509

THIS... OMG I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BUT DIDNT HAVE THE GUTS TO!!!

Everything that happens to you in the afterlife is what you percieve it to be
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


I'm hear to help.
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You are an anon superhero.

*hugs*
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Wow you are a liar buddy!! If there was a hell you would be going to it.

See here:

The entire experience halted. I discovered that I was in control of the experience. My request was honored. I had conversations with the Light. That's the best way I can describe it. The Light changed into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, archetypal images and signs. I asked in a kind of telepathy, "What is going on here?"

The information transmitted was that our beliefs shape the kind of feedback we receive. If you are a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own images. I became aware of a Higher Self matrix, a conduit to the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being, a conduit. All Higher Selves are connected as one being. All humans are connected as one being.

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509

THIS... OMG I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BUT DIDNT HAVE THE GUTS TO!!!

Everything that happens to you in the afterlife is what you percieve it to be
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


I'm hear to help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509


You are an anon superhero.

*hugs*
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


Thanks!!!

hf
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THIS... OMG I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BUT DIDNT HAVE THE GUTS TO!!!

Everything that happens to you in the afterlife is what you percieve it to be
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


I'm hear to help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509


You are an anon superhero.

*hugs*
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


Thanks!!!

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509


hf

Do you have a deconversion tale or anything of the sort?

i might make a thread devoted to them if i get enough interest.
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The Gospel of Caesar


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I am watching this now.

Absolutely brilliant

hf
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I'm hear to help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509


You are an anon superhero.

*hugs*
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


Thanks!!!

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38340509


hf

Do you have a deconversion tale or anything of the sort?

i might make a thread devoted to them if i get enough interest.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


Yes!!!

Well I started at an early age about 6 going to Sunday School. I went to church every week and I considered myself
a Christian until I was about 23. Through that time I read the Bible through and through many times. It was when I was in my 20s
I started questioning how this god of the New Testament
seemed so evil and how this Bible here does not make any sense with all the conflicting rules. For a few years I was in limbo to all of this. I just stopped all together.

To make a long story short I started researching different
religions, conspiracies, meditation, reincarnation,The Sumarian tablets and anything I could find. I read book upon book upon book. I started meditating and asking some Creator what is the truth and everything started
coming to me. I finally broke the Dogma and religious programming after all those years in my late 20's. I guess
you could say I was awakened to the matrix that controls me.

The best thing I can say is always keep an open mind and
question everything. Ask your higher self for the answers and they will come and you will be able to start to clarify the The Truth from the Dogma. Seek and you shall find.
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I meant Old Testament not New Testament in the above post.
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Ops brain never existed
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Revelation 22:16-17


16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.

Free gift. There it is for the churches. to set them free, the doors are wide open to come out from the false preachers mind control.

Just ask and you receive free.





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When Roman soldiers laid siege to a city they used a technique they called "loaves and fishes." They would bake bread with fecal matter mixed into it and amputate the penises of captured citizens of the city and throw the "loaves and fishes" over the besieged city's walls. It is well known that Roman slang for the word 'penis' was 'fish'. It is no coincidence that Jesus performs the "miracle" of the loaves and fishes. It is a cruel Roman joke.
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The Gospel of Caesar


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I am watching this now.

Absolutely brilliant

hf
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bump for must see video.
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When Roman soldiers laid siege to a city they used a technique they called "loaves and fishes." They would bake bread with fecal matter mixed into it and amputate the penises of captured citizens of the city and throw the "loaves and fishes" over the besieged city's walls. It is well known that Roman slang for the word 'penis' was 'fish'. It is no coincidence that Jesus performs the "miracle" of the loaves and fishes. It is a cruel Roman joke.
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WOW thanks for posting
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When Roman soldiers laid siege to a city they used a technique they called "loaves and fishes." They would bake bread with fecal matter mixed into it and amputate the penises of captured citizens of the city and throw the "loaves and fishes" over the besieged city's walls. It is well known that Roman slang for the word 'penis' was 'fish'. It is no coincidence that Jesus performs the "miracle" of the loaves and fishes. It is a cruel Roman joke.
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WOW thanks for posting
 Quoting: Lamplite


Your welcome!!
hf
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The following is a fable by Aesop, a Greek author who was well known to literate people in the first century CE. Note that anyone knowing this fable, and then reading about Jesus entering Jerusalem on an ass could not possibly fail to get the joke:

The Ass Carrying the Image

AN ASS once carried through the streets of a city a famous wooden Image, to be placed in one of its Temples. As he passed along, the crowd made lowly prostration before the Image. The Ass,thinking that they bowed their heads in token of respect for himself, bristled up with pride, gave himself airs, and refusedto move another step. The driver, seeing him thus stop, laid his whip lustily about his shoulders and said, "O you perverse dull-head! it is not yet come to this, that men pay worship to an Ass."
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The following is a fable by Aesop, a Greek author who was well known to literate people in the first century CE. Note that anyone knowing this fable, and then reading about Jesus entering Jerusalem on an ass could not possibly fail to get the joke:

The Ass Carrying the Image

AN ASS once carried through the streets of a city a famous wooden Image, to be placed in one of its Temples. As he passed along, the crowd made lowly prostration before the Image. The Ass,thinking that they bowed their heads in token of respect for himself, bristled up with pride, gave himself airs, and refusedto move another step. The driver, seeing him thus stop, laid his whip lustily about his shoulders and said, "O you perverse dull-head! it is not yet come to this, that men pay worship to an Ass."
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lmao
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My belief is Jesus was a real person, but not all homo sapien. Half God and half human, I suppose. I am not too religious, but I have faith in a higher purpose. About due time for another like him, though. So God send us another son.





GLP