A Spiritual Experience that Answered as Much as it Created New Sets of Questions

you were never a Christian if you can walk away so easily, for what Christ begins in one, He finishes. No sheep are ever lost. And no one is beating their chest over you--- you really do have an inflated idea of your own self importance--- the field grows with wheat and tares alike, as God wills

OP you are now closer to truth than you ever have been. You do infact feel in a way much closer to it but at the same time you realize how far it is, almost, if not totally unreachable in this current form. The great thing about learning even a hint of truth is that you have actually the tools to achieve this bit of information. Im still continuing in this path and hopefully you do too. Its not always easy but its much more stabilizing than to be brainwashed to believe what ever without personal experience and true understanding. Doubt is your best ally, not certainty.

congratulations!

Great!

but do u see doom?

this is GLP after all

Awesome recount of what feels like an epic journey LB, thanks for sharing. I can relate to a lot of it. What a ride its been and continues to be.

OP, read The Forgotten Books of Eden, the Book of Adam and Eve 1 & 2 You can google it and read it online for free.

It tells of the original deception, and also tells how satan kept changing himself to trick adam and eve into following him. He appeared bright, like an angel, and even sang praises to God, he went to any extent to trick them and they kept falling for it. Adam and Eve wanted to be divine, to be their own god.

Do yourself a favor and read that book before you make any life altering decisions.

Thread: The Forgotten Books of Eden

Well said D. O. G.- OP just remember one thing. We are spiritual beings in a human body. Your experience is just the start of a path to an upward spiral. As your consciousness expands, you will continue to receive higher truths. Many believe in ultimate truths-but there is always a higher teaching to all subjects. This is the path that Jesus, Buddah and Krishna took on their journey to reach personal Christhood while they were in embodiment. It's the same journey we must all make to escape the great wheel of reincarnation. Namaste!

Congrats, OP and thank-you for sharing your experience and thoughts.

I was raised christian. I had an unexpected and spontaneous 'awakening' in 2008. It led me to question everything I had ever been taught. I decided to set every belief I had to the side and explore. If I found that the beliefs still worked, I would come back to them, if not, I needed to let them go. It was the scariest and most enlightening experience of my life.

I feel so blessed for the initial experience and for the ones that continue. I've never looked back or been more alive in my life.

I've barely scratched the surface and look forward to every day...

Good ole Alan watts. OP, have you listened to some of the publicized Masters, such as Lester Levenson, Ramana Maharshi, Sri Nisargadatta, Robert Adams? Ramana's short booklet, "Who Am I?" likewise describes the experience. My #1 desire is total vanishment of the mind, resolution of the mind.

You have read the Bible, haven't you? Lots of "leaving" people behind in the Good Book, eh?

OP when you get the chance later can you share some of the wisdom that you have gained?

Holy shit. Let me clear something up right now...because people aren't smart enough to read themselves...


I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN. BUT NOW I'M SEEING SOMEONE WHO I WILL LIKELY HAVE CHILDREN WITH SOME DAY.

I NEVER MENTIONED HAVING ANY CHILDREN.

I WAS MARRIED FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS, NOT A DAMN LIFETIME.

MY WIFE WAS HAPPY, I WAS NOT. NOW WE'RE BOTH HAPPY. IT HAS FULFILLED BOTH OF US.

It is pretty apparent to me who the foolish ones are at this point...the questions I had were answered by the Christians themselves, it appears, who have now appeared (in this particular thread alone) as book-thumpers with no real arguments but plenty of "intent" (which, to me, is just blabbering any more...doesn't even make any sense to me). If you truly understood the scriptures, then this experience wouldn't be a problem...

First time I've ever said this, but seriously...

Bible Tards.

You, you, you, you...

Judge not, lest ye be judged, Measure by measure, baby.

I can Bible thump with you all day...but I really don't want to. You're all making a REALLY bad case for yourselves/your faith.

^^^ THIS!!

I left this out of my story, but I was actually listening to a lecture by Alan Watts (who I discovered right before this experience) when "it" happened...in a way - he's my guru.

Life is a game that we play on ourselves. When I discovered that, I did what a lot of people described spontaneously - I LAUGHED AND LAUGHED. It really is funny to discover that YOU are the one playing this game on YOURSELF...

Astrology and Numerology ARE meaningful. In fact, everything a person experiences is meaningful to them personally. This IS a subjective experience, no doubt about it. You can only see things through the lens of "I AM"...there does not exist an "I WAS" or an "I WILL BE". We are all "I AM" all of the time...always. This is the Eternal Now. Nothing else exists except in a dream state. We create our own symbology through our perception/experience for the purpose of waking ourselves up...or not. If we become obsessed/transfixed on the physical world, assuming that it's the all-important and the ultimate meaning, then we will never make that spiritual gain in this life. It's when we look beyond the matter into the unknown that it's able to reveal itself to us. That we can awaken to our selves.

Love is ultimate. There is nothing greater than the expression of true love. Shared love being the highest vibration in the Universe. Love and light always fold into hate and darkness, but even in its receipt it cannot be consumed nor destroyed.

What keeps us from awakening? Belief. What helps us awaken? Faith. There is a vast difference between the two. One is decided upon...one is settled into.

The will to power is real. It is the darkness of spirituality. You can will yourself into being...and even "control your destiny" to some degree. My personal awakening came as a result of the most significant charitable event I've ever participated in...it still brings me to tears at what happened. I'd literally made a decision to put someone else's life above mine in a profound way - never knowing that the decision itself would result in my turning around to come back home and, while not fixing everything (actually just continuing the journey), it put me on the CORRECT path, instead of the path I chose because of belief.

The most profound thing I learned was that we are all God in the way a drop of water is part of an ocean. Most faiths look outside themselves for God...wishing that a woman/man would swoop out of the heavens and save them from things...this is not true any more to me. I no longer pray outside of myself to a god that sits in a room, or on a throne, or chillin' in some heavenly field of daisies - I literally have a conversation with my genuine self, who is God, and who knows better than my own human mind, anything at all. I was a bonafide (and SSSAAAAVVVVVEEEEDDD hallelujah!) Christian for 30 years. 30 YEARS. I never had one answer that was ever this profound. I've learned more in six months than I ever learned in my previous 30 years.

I'm smarter and healthier than I've ever been as well. I can sense/see things that I would have previously poo-poo'ed in others...and now I feel like a damn fool because of it at times.

I used to care about politics - big time. I don't care any more. I see the game.

I used to care about RELIGION - it was my life. I don't care any more. I see the game.

I used to believe in psychiatry - I thought it had answers. Nope. Just another way to control the masses and keep us all from having personal spiritual experiences.

What's funny is that I never attacked anyone in my original post or thoughts...yet I was thoroughly attacked by the "GLP Crusaders"...kinda sums things up for me pretty well, to be honest. It's pretty clear none can be described as "meek or lowly of heart".

Lisa Lisa, I respect your beliefs but ask you to consider a few things. In my world I believe the greatest deception ever is the belief that Jesus took the burden of all mankinds sins by His death on the cross. Why do I believe this? Because it abdicates all responsibility for what we do wrong to Jesus. Where are the lessons to be learned if we are not accountable for what we do wrong? If you truly believe Jesus died for our sins, then we have no free will. If free will is truly free, then there should be no condition whatsoever that would prevent one from finding their way back to Source/God on their own. It can't be any other way. If you believe Jesus died for our sins, then you believe God created us as miserable sinners. Do see the flawed logic there? We couldn't possibly be created flawed if we are created in God's Image and likeness. The story of the fall as most understand it is misunderstood. There were thousands who in their training to reach higher levels of spirituality needed to pass the test of separateness from source. During this test, many tasted this state of being and wanted to explore it, not disobedience, but an allowed outcome of their spiritual path. Of course those that chose this path lost being at a much higher spiritual level and became subject to karma and reincarnation. So we were never sinners and thus never needed somebody to save us. I wish you peace in your journey.

Just quick input.

You have now been introduced to Level 1 of the plan. Level 2 will come in years down the road. At this point noone can persuade you. Good luck man. :]

so what type of drugs where u on? homemade crank again?

Thanks for your meaningful and well-thought out response!

Anyone else noticed that the majority of the "Christian Soldiers" on here are swimming in negs? :) Just an observation.

Brain Cancer?

Anti-Fundie Christian here. Not being negative, but people sometimes have similar symptoms right before being diagnosed with brain cancer.

Now that I have insurance it's certainly worth looking into. I doubt that's the answer, only because of the answers I received that could have never come from just a brain anomaly...but I believe in checking that stuff out. :) Thanks.

i keep my responses concise and to the point. Unlike the original fantasy poster.

Since you don't know God, you are not qualified to make such a statement. The restoration of all things will occur and it isn't for everyone, only those who belong to God. This requires you to belong to Christ. You obviously do not and will shortly be on the outside looking in.

so know that you are so enlightned above the minions, what is the purpose of life? What is your new mission to feed the poor, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless? Or was this just one baddas, selfish journey, full of self-righteous lies to make YOU feel better?

Been hearing this "shortly you will know the truth!!" my entire life...

YAWN.

Yes, here it comes, just around the corner!!

There is no corner. Just one big eternal line.

What will spring Armageddon? Christians wanting to kill Muslims and Muslims wanting to kill Jews and Jews wanting to kill them both? It's a fantasy created by the religious. In some ways it will be a good thing if it touches off...then mankind can move on from it and discover the real truth behind all of these faiths.

You seem to have already made up your mind.

Thanks again for your love, brother/sister. /endsarcasm

No, its not well said. You are NOT God but you are your own nothing god. You live in the darkness, without the living spirit of God inside you, literally because you don't believe. You cannot own or possess what you don't believe in or ask for. Only God can recreate you, its not in your mind. Fix your own corrupted DNA all by yourself then. Go ahead. Thats what God is about to do for those who belong to Christ as part of their salvation as the end is here.

No, I am curious. With all that enlightnment, you must have been assigned a mission....why else would demons appear to you?

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