When was jesus created by the father?

It was shortly after Mary sheepishly said, " Uh...GOD did it!"

In the beginning -

Reason: jesus according to the text was the word made flesh

Jesus spoke of a plc awaiting us indicating prior knowledge to heaven. It is all very confusing!

About 9 months before Jesus was born
You're welcome. You missed "biology" class?

So he existed in heaven prior to his walk on earth?

God the Father, Jesus the Son & God the Holy Spirit have always existed as a triune being. In Genesis, when God says "we" make man in "our" image, that image is Jesus. There are even some who believe that Adam & Jesus looked exactly alike but that's not scriptural, just a fun idea. God can manifest Himself in many forms however, a burning bush, a pillar of fire, a roaring lion, a goat (two goats actually, another lesson for another time), etc. Jesus is often referred to as "the Word". Jesus happens to be the particular manifestation that spoke everything into existence. It can get confusing, trying to envision three separate manifestations as a singular entity. Fact is, if I could fit everything there is to know about God in my 3lb brain, He wouldn't be a God worth worshiping.

He existed from the beginning. Many scriptures attest to it.

“Before” the father created “time”

This isn't a troll thread. I believe the many near death experience stories and fully believe there is an after life. Some things still don't make sense to me though.

According to the text


John 1:1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.



John 1:14
King James Version
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

He has always existed. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God... And the word became flesh and dwelt among us.

John 1 1-14

I have always envisioned them as separate entities but all connected through god. I have to admit, I don't get the holy ghost either. I struggle to understand many things, I just know there is next and many people through near death experience's can testify to his existence.

With regards to manifesting him self in various ways, this is another thing that troubles me. Why was god so vocal in old testimony but so silent with us now?

Why not come Dow from heaven then in the same way he is to return? Why go through that? It would have been far more beleavable if he came down from the heavens?

Jesus has existed for eternity. He was not created.

So he would have been born with all knowledge and would have known he is jesus as he grew?

Everything starts as a seed

you failed Sex Ed class

The knowledge would be discovered over one's life time through various experiences and experimentations in one's life.

I don't get earth. In heaven everyone knows god exists. There's no pain or sorrow and they live in paradise. How earth could be that way if he just made his presence known to us all whilst we are here. I don't get why we were not created in heaven and live with God from the outset. Why risk losing us to his enemy?

There does seem to be missing time when it comes down umderstanding to jesus growing up. What age was he when he began to remove demons from people and speak about God?

You'll find it obvious through the responses you get here, that nobody knows for certain. All may have theories, opinions, or their reliance upon bible verses to support their belief system..... but nobody knows..... its why some of us, like you, search for answers.

Here's my current theory based on reading ancient texts and comparing it with the bible text... which primarily parrots the ancient texts:

"God" existed.... it was... it just was. Then it spoke, and the the female aspect of it became..... out of the male aspect, the female aspect.... also became. This female aspect, through its male aspect (joined energy) was responsible for all subsequent creation.

It's this female aspect combined with the male aspect "Created" the holy spirit, the 3d energy of the combined 2 energies.

It was this female aspect that incarnated into the one who was/is called "Jesus."

Go read about how JC as a child killed people for fun in the non-canonical books the church couldn't use.

lol, it's a long story... Jesus is now IN us as opposed to being WITH us in the garden of Eden. Because of sin, we're now separated from God. As time went on, people simply got worse, further from God. Insert Noah's flood. (Man's heart was filled with evil continually & all flesh had become corrupt, that's why there was a flood). The only way we could ever be brought back to the Father/God is through Jesus, which is why He says "I am the way, the truth & the light, no man can come to the father except by me". (that's not verbatim but close enough)

Sounds like you're pretty close to where I was some decades ago. Here's what I recommend: Read the New Testament (KJV) first, then go back & read the Old Testament. After you've done that, read the early church fathers commentary (1st century AD only, everyone after that are no longer direct witnesses or direct disciples to the disciples).

we are something "new" .... we were created differently than other beings.......that said, "we" made a choice that affected all mankind afterwards. Now it's on us to find our way back to the Creator.... Jesus came to show the Way to do that.....

That is a very interesting theory, I appreciate you sharing. Like you said, I'm trying to look for answers but I appreciate these are very deep questions. I do think want to come across as some sort of troll either. I do believe but I came at this from hearing about near death experiences. I am trying with the bible but so much doesn't make sense.

Does your theory suggest he was born at birth and was gifted knowledge and insight to his creation or was he created in heaven and then reborn on earth?

Hogwash. G-d gave the way in the Torah that has nothing to do with JC.

I am seeing that he was the first creation, the female/mother aspect of the All of All Creator. As a human incarnation of that TREMENDOUS power and energy, he would be more able to accept, understand, live and display those attributes of knowledge and insight to us. Being born in the 3D density however, he didn't have access to that higher level of being, until he concquered the 3d human aspects that hold all of that back. So, yes and yes.

So jesus came to show us the way? Is this why we must accept him in order to be with with the father? I know jesus prayed to the father but many people pray to jesus. Who are we supposed to be praying to?

I'm a former "messie" ..... so I am very familiar with the torah, lived it, breathed, talked and walked it.

And the answer is "no."

Thank you for posting! Just out of curiosity, how does the torah define the question I have asked? Does it give any of its own insight?