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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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this is a huge concern. if a variant is worse than the ORIGINAL version, we are all in trouble. death rate OF THE original VERSION was at 45%. held there a long time early on. even if better treatments help, we could see 25% deaths without it being worse.

note just cause it is in CHINA now ,does not mean it started there this time or that it is only there.

if i keep being this right,i should find a str8 jacket to tie me up in.
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oops,too many voices.
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tounge
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Isn't that what a gain of function bio weapon would do? Keep changing for the worse? Asking for a friend.
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It's an interesting question. GoF research as I understand it means the virus/pathogen would be altered to become worse in a new form but not necessarily continually get worse over time as we're seeing with new variants now. But could what we're seeing now with new worse variants be a by product of that? Could be.

This virus is fascinating in how it has a tendency to keep coming up with nastier versions in short spaces of time, and shows no sign of attenuating. When has there ever been a virus that evolves like that? None that I'm aware of. Seems a bit sinister...
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"Some Patients Are Reporting Long COVID Recoveries—But Experts Still Don't Fully Understand Why" Scary stuff!.. [link to time.com (secure)] 30 million covid-19 cases just in the USA and between 10% - 30% will get long covid! Between 3 and 9 million people will need long term care..
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define "long covid". at the moment the best we have is it is showing symptons that are related to covid.in other words ,u have issues that persist including breathing and heart problems. those are things a person can feel and the docs can test for.

the reality is as u pointed out "we don't know much".hence my term unicornis still problematic. TH has reported ppl did recover. by that she means they are not showing signs of any illness.nor are they finding more with tests.

however, that does not say the virus is not doing damage internally quietly. since, they do not know,they d not know what to look for. we have no idea of the effects 3 years from infection. those could include brain deterioration, weakening of other organs or muscles, hormonal inbalance, hearing/vision loss,etc. who knows. but things that take time to show an effect might not b blamed on covid but could b caused by it.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Chris Whitty, England's Chief Medical Officer



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He acts like all children have preexisting health conditions. Perhaps, and I don't agree, just jab those with such confirmed conditions. That's if this jab doesn't do more damage to these medically fragile children. Or maybe use alternative methods to treat and protect these children that also have been found to work and may be less harmful to them.

If a child has a reaction to the jab, won't that also cause a disruptions and also contribute to physical/mental health challenges. How about let's strengthen our children physically and mentally to face our very tumultuous future. It would serve them well.

Why doesn't this guy offer solutions of more than one idea instead of a one size fits all recommendation.

Seems to me our children deserve much better than they are currently getting.
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Interesting... now there is this piece of news hmm




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New moscow variant found.
Now thats why putins meeting jo lol

The chief doctor of Moscow's main Covid-19 hospital Denis Protsenko said last week that hospital patients were not responding to treatments that were previously effective, indicating that mutated Covid-19 strains were present in the capital
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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64 cases in the UK at the moment
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This will be the end of globabism and human travel across borders


Celebrate. The clock is ticking.
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New moscow variant found.
Now thats why putins meeting jo lol

The chief doctor of Moscow's main Covid-19 hospital Denis Protsenko said last week that hospital patients were not responding to treatments that were previously effective, indicating that mutated Covid-19 strains were present in the capital
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Oh look...Variants everywhere Vaccines are found

no suprise


now the biggest question. Is the Virus evolving to attack the Vaccinated only? Lets hope so
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64 cases in the UK at the moment
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They are reporting here in Memphis that there are 18 known cases with the Delta variant. One of which has received both Pfizer doses. None have traveled internationally and only 5 traveled domestically in the past month. With only about 35% of our local population vaccinated, I am expecting to see restrictions to be reinstated by August if not sooner. I have a feeling we are going to be kicked back to the scenario we had around Christmas 2020.

Its just a gut feeling but tptb here didn't expect Delta until late summer. Its here now and if there are 18 cases, you know its way more. Well, I hope people enjoyed the time we had the past couple of months.
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This is a new variant of Delta...probably evolved specifically to target the vaccines.

Its not Delta...its Delta+

I would say close all borders, but they probably wont
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Herd immunity Sweden has delta spreading in youngsters.


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I got a feeling that after this double mutant (Delta) that goes after kids and children, the next few variants will be the much deadly version. This Covid had been going down the age band since beginning of last year, from the oldest people down to kids now.
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Herd immunity Sweden has delta spreading in youngsters.


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I got a feeling that after this double mutant (Delta) that goes after kids and children, the next few variants will be the much deadly version. This Covid had been going down the age band since beginning of last year, from the oldest people down to kids now.
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It will be Antibody Dependant enchancement, just like animal trials


After 12 months the virus will diverge to Vaccinated people only. Hang in there...do whatever you can to not get jabbed.
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I'm still hanging around here...just haven't been posting as much...haven't felt particularly social lately...i go out on my 1-2 times a week errands and I see fewer and fewer people wearing masks or taking precautions...just running around fat, dumb, and happy, acting like there is no pandemic. I get it, people want things to return to the normal they knew, but the old normal is gone. The vaccine, while having a limited effect, IS NOT A MAGIC BULLET. It is effective against the OG strain and likely the early variants...The Gamma (Brazilian) and Delta (Indian) and the new Delta Plus, and whatever is next? Not so much. This monster is mutating at an insane rate.

That is not even taking into account the illness and death toll from the vaccine itself...that is a whole other issue. I am not vaccinated. I am also not a Never Vaxxer. I am a No Time Soon Vaxxer. For me to seriously consider getting vaccinated, the vaccine needs to demonstrate a sustained period of safety and efficacy...The vaccines have been out now roughly 6 months and the clock has not started on either of those measures...

The numbers are skyrocketing in Europe, thanks to the Delta variant. Historically, here in the US, we have been 8-10 weeks behind Europe in COVID trends...so, late summer, the chickens will come to roost here...It just hurts my heart to see all these folks marching around with no masks and taking no precautions...having drunk the kool-aid that we are moving out of the pandemic...the truth is, the worst of this is likely yet to come...People are basically just stupid...
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Nice to 'see' you, GG.

It's going to be a long road ahead. I feel soon there is going to be more coercive pressure on people to get vaccinated because the vaccines are not all they are cracked up to be.
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I am burnt. The stupid is too fucking strong.

*hunkers down harder*


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Only took them 2-3 months. That must have been a really tricky decision to make that required a lot of deep thinking! /s

doh
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Georgia Geoprepper -- I feel the same way. The denial is so strong regarding the variants spreading here, and the delusion so entrenched that the vaccinated are safe. Why people can't see the proverbial writing on the wall is just beyond me.

I got hit with the vax after-effects this past few days. I was fine right after the shot, but after a week started developing the typical symptoms a lot of people have. I hope that is a sign that my immune system is at least reacting to the vaccine in a way that will be protective. I also hope the vax doesn't do more harm than good in the long run ... not just for me, but for everyone.

At this point, we just have to try to survive. I am certainly not returning to anything like a pre-pandemic normal, especially with everyone running around with their freaking faces unmasked.

I was thinking earlier that this is a total slow-burn apolcalypse -- a constant grinding down, with stressors on every front -- medical, financial, ecological, you name it. it won't be pretty when this new reality smacks the majority of Americans in the face.
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Bring forth the compulsory jab jab!!!


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snip:" Consultations will begin on a similar rule for other health and care staff. "

So everyone involved in all forms of UK healthcare could soon be told the jab is compulsory them too, by the sounds of it?
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I cant link this tweet, it blanks out when I directly click on it. It can be found on twitter, B 1.617.2 delta

Investigations Replying to
@GavinNewsom
This is concerning & misleading
@GavinNewsom
. As of June 14; 2,270 sequences in Delta B.1.617.2 lineage have been detected in 47 US states; CA leading with a concerning 300 cases of Delta, 50% a more transmissible variant where by vaccines are less effective.
@POTUS

@OIGatHHS

@VP


My point is CA is going to start to climb fast now. Looks like I'm not alone in my thinking.
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Confidence increasing that Mexico is entering a new wave. Another increase for them today.
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I know CoronaCoaster has expressed skepticism for Ivermectin, but data is important in our search...
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of course

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That should go down well with the Russians. /s

I'm pretty sure Russia has one of the highest vaccine hesitant populations!
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New moscow variant found.
Now thats why putins meeting jo lol

The chief doctor of Moscow's main Covid-19 hospital Denis Protsenko said last week that hospital patients were not responding to treatments that were previously effective, indicating that mutated Covid-19 strains were present in the capital
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Tropical weather alert for gulf coast states... just putting it out there

India had a couple of nasty cyclones which coincided with their recent deadly wave


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Herd immunity Sweden has delta spreading in youngsters.


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I got a feeling that after this double mutant (Delta) that goes after kids and children, the next few variants will be the much deadly version. This Covid had been going down the age band since beginning of last year, from the oldest people down to kids now.
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It will be Antibody Dependant enchancement, just like animal trials


After 12 months the virus will diverge to Vaccinated people only. Hang in there...do whatever you can to not get jabbed.
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Thanks, I believe you are right on the ADE, will not jab anytime soon, although very tempted recently.

Too bad Uncle Doom is also no longer around in this forum to give us more insider advice.
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Ontario is seeing 46% (~1/2) of all new cases of Covid now are B 1.617.2, Delta, yesterday's numbers.
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Truth never damages a cause that is just
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9k new cases UK. Most since February!


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Too bad Uncle Doom is also no longer around in this forum to give us more insider advice.
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UK

Hmm... link between cases and hospital admissions hasn't weakened then?


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It was around this time last year that cases accelerated in the south. Possibly because people were gathering inside more often due to hot conditions outside.

It's even hotter now. Keep an eye on cases?




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Regeneron antiviral treatment saves lives of Covid patients in hospital.... [link to www.ft.com (secure)]
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