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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
Dutchy20

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I'll be surprised if it reaches 800%, till then it's just consistent with governments underestimating the situation they are facing and trying to reach short term goals instead of long term health. Graph here: [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Look at June 26th and after, UK should see a spike along those lines around the the 28th.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
CC: I understand, and I know it's a viable means of transmission. We've seen the proof that the virus can survive that way and that nasal introduction can lead to replication and further spread into lungs etc. Just a tad odd.

Sam Adams: That might be it, Keeping track of all proteins and their ever changing supposed influence is really hard until such things come a modifier and data.

AC 79731548: We are a long way past May now mate. The data you see there reflects people infected in March/April when there were less people vaccinated nearly all cases were still Alpha/Beta variant for which current vaccines have higher efficacy.
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[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov (secure)]

In summary, fomite transmission might be an important source of risk for SARS-CoV-2. However, both mask wearing and frequent cleaning and disinfection can reduce this risk.

"Might" lol

And look, risk can be reduced, but how many people are still doing disinfecting procedures?
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u are comparing apples to peaches, 1 has a bit more fuzz on it.

the original version that swept across the US, it effected mostly those ppl who were sick already with some med issue.so it skipped over healthy ppl. hence we really do not know how bad formite exposure is for a variant that is more contagious.

theory is there are millions exposed and assymptomatics in the country. did they all breath it in with masks on? or did they transfer it by taking them off without washing their hands?

with their guard down, it doesn't matter if the wolf bites or tiger. they goina b bit and lose the arm or leg. for the rest of us, better safe than sorry.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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yikes @ the sudden jump in the last bar there...




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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Again like ive posted multiple times, how the heck are we going to get through this once fall starts? Forget about winter if we even reach that point and havent destructed as a society.
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I wonder why people aren't getting as mad at Biden as they did at Trump, gee I wonder.


gaah
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It might be that they were not lied to on daily basis during covid briefings about a life threatening pandemic of which the proportions we most did not know about at the time. I can't even honestly find a reason why anyone that was considered cognitively aware at the time......
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Again like ive posted multiple times, how the heck are we going to get through this once fall starts? Forget about winter if we even reach that point and havent destructed as a society.
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Well.... we won’t be able to say that we didn’t have time to prepare....
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Fun fact.. overall world death rate from covid is about 2%. (deaths -4,058,701 divided by cases -188,301,646.80%). In the US, ogf the total deaths by covid, 80% are 65 and older... [link to www.kff.org (secure)]
Does that make the chances of dying of covid if you are 65 or older, 1 in 10?
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Fun fact.. overall world death rate from covid is about 2%. (deaths -4,058,701 divided by cases -188,301,646.80%). In the US, of the total deaths by covid, 80% are 65 and older... [link to www.kff.org (secure)]
Does that make the chances of dying of covid if you are 65 or older, 1 in 10?
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Lago
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Fun fact.. overall world death rate from covid is about 2%. (deaths -4,058,701 divided by cases -188,301,646). In the US, of the total deaths by covid, 80% are 65 and older... [link to www.kff.org (secure)]
Does that make the chances of dying of covid if you are 65 or older, 1 in 10?
Lago
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Again like ive posted multiple times, how the heck are we going to get through this once fall starts? Forget about winter if we even reach that point and havent destructed as a society.
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How are we going to avoid people spamming misinformation and hope to have a chance of getting the most accurate people out to people?

A) If you are worried about being removed, Are you posting misinformation? I'm strawmanning, I'm not even aware of your content, and I am willing to admit that.

Free speech does mean you get to say whatever you want everywhere.
This site is a prime example, bans in my experience are random.
Would I care for many the people here being limited in their speech? Yeah, Annoying as they are, sometimes they are right. So the price we pay is that inclusion in the conversation is free, but that means that exploitation of others happens. I wish I could formulate it better but I can't There is a happy user side and there is a exploited user side inherent in all these business models.

There is no bad guy in this scenario.
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Fun fact.. overall world death rate from covid is about 2%. (deaths -4,058,701 divided by cases -188,301,646). In the US, of the total deaths by covid, 80% are 65 and older... [link to www.kff.org (secure)]
Does that make the chances of dying of covid if you are 65 or older, 1 in 10?
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Lago. you are comparing advertised in the UK to the rest of the world.
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Hmmmm keep on declining south America all countries way below the pervious tues/Mondays reporting
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Hmmmm keep on declining south America all countries way below the pervious tues/Mondays reporting
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Uh .... they never ever got to pre may 2020 numbers. Your excitement is extremely concerning.

Here. Brazil for example...

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
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Lol - I so want to critizize myself, I'm Not even aware of me writing any of this. Do I not get to to deconstruct, is that your message oh pity lame little wannabe hacker? Take my account and run it into the ground! Sell all the crypto with it! Oh m password? It's changing? Boo-Hoo... Is that new to you?
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Lol - I so want to critizize myself, I'm Not even aware of me writing any of this. Do I not get to to deconstruct, is that your message oh pity lame little wannabe hacker? Take my account and run it into the ground! Sell all the crypto with it! Oh m password? It's changing? Boo-Hoo... Is that new to you?
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Is this a call LJS moment?
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Hmmmm keep on declining south America all countries way below the pervious tues/Mondays reporting
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80351937


Uh .... they never ever got to pre may 2020 numbers. Your excitement is extremely concerning.

Here. Brazil for example...

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I hear you it's only being optimistic but they haven't been on the decline like this in forever their ppl need to recover alittle mind wise
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yikes @ the sudden jump in the last bar there...



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Kids go back to school on augustbbn10yh

No e-learning this year...no masks either

Gonna be a disaster.

I pulled my 10 year old out
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Lol - I so want to critizize myself, I'm Not even aware of me writing any of this. Do I not get to to deconstruct, is that your message oh pity lame little wannabe hacker? Take my account and run it into the ground! Sell all the crypto with it! Oh m password? It's changing? Boo-Hoo... Is that new to you?
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Is this a call LJS moment?
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Yeah ban me.
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yikes @ the sudden jump in the last bar there...



 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Kids go back to school on augustbbn10yh

No e-learning this year...no masks either

Gonna be a disaster.

I pulled my 10 year old out
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Yup, no masks in Arkansas schools, either. I pulled my son out last year.
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Fun fact.. overall world death rate from covid is about 2%. (deaths -4,058,701 divided by cases -188,301,646). In the US, of the total deaths by covid, 80% are 65 and older... [link to www.kff.org (secure)]
Does that make the chances of dying of covid if you are 65 or older, 1 in 10?
 Quoting: Lago


Lago. you are comparing advertised in the UK to the rest of the world.
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Dutchy20, 80% was the US numbers, who still have a 1st world healthcare system where, if you are 65 and older, some/most people have access to good subsidized healthcare. In 3rd world countries would not the deaths in 65 and older people be greater than 1 in 10?
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...


Lago. you are comparing advertised in the UK to the rest of the world.
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Dutchy20, 80% was the US numbers, who still have a 1st world healthcare system where, if you are 65 and older, some/most people have access to good subsidized healthcare. In 3rd world countries would not the deaths in 65 and older people be greater than 1 in 10?
 Quoting: Lago


We can't compare those till well after the fact due to the shitty reporting. The consistent thing in most things here is we don't really know. You can try to push your're agenda by any example you want but it's meaningless becuase it won't stop a next wave. You're better off playing mario cart over trying to find casuality. If you may have found causality you'll find me flustered over your ability to do algreba.
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Didn't Uncle Doom say something about pollution carrying the virus? Not sure it was him, but we definitely did discuss this before.
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Yes, it was Uncle Doom.
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I wonder why people aren't getting as mad at Biden as they did at Trump, gee I wonder.


gaah
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers


Trump lied a whole lot, personally, in front of a camera, about a ongoing pandemic that kills people. Telling them they would be a-okay and not to worry...

ETA-

Biden is lying too, I hate his admins pandemic messaging but it's a lot harder to pin it on him.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Biden is also getting people to get vaccinated. Trump and Fox lied that they were never vaccinated.
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has anyone kept track of what the total excess deaths world wide is up to now? not just reported as covid. don't think we have ever gotten the estimates based on societal changes such as cell use,power needs,etc. only 1 i think we ever got was for CHINA in spring of 2020. if my memory is correct the # was 25-50 million dead there.
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Worldwide excess deaths ..choose a country.... [link to ourworldindata.org (secure)]
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umm does a negative death # mean they came back to life as zombies? i mention this cause umm Phillipines is listed and i did see their death # change way back in the early days. somebody there did come back to life before......

it's a lot if so.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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total excess deaths of all countries listed on the chart-

4.3+ million
plus 24,000 zombies so 4.5 million excess deaths admitted to. we know CHINA has way more than reported.

actually i did not see CHINA added to the chart. the way i read this chart, these are beyond the covid deaths. so we have 4 million covid reported plus 4.5 excess deaths.

puts the deaths at roughly 60 million counting the CHNA projections from spring.

as long as the zombies don't swim we b ok. if u live in FL, they is in Cuba. i'd move.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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South America decline as a whole 545,071 vs pervious 7 day trend 619,216 -12% deaths 16,577 vs pervious 7days 18,242 -9%

Africa also In decline-7% overall...


Rich countries can do way better if the poor countries can turn things around
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I wonder why people aren't getting as mad at Biden as they did at Trump, gee I wonder.


gaah
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Trump lied a whole lot, personally, in front of a camera, about a ongoing pandemic that kills people. Telling them they would be a-okay and not to worry...

ETA-

Biden is lying too, I hate his admins pandemic messaging but it's a lot harder to pin it on him.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Biden is also getting people to get vaccinated. Trump and Fox lied that they were never vaccinated.
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Trump was a complete retard. He could of used this Virus to shut borders, shut down air travel, deploy troops on border, make the left anti-science...and beat the shit out of them.

But he didn't. He is a pathetic policitian who did nothing but Tweet. I hope he runs again so I can vote AGAINST his worthless ass. rant
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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Pfizer down to 43% protection.

Wheres the furry she loves real word data


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Pfizer down to 43% protection.

Wheres the furry she loves real word data


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