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Kamala Harris is NOT a Natural Born Citizen and is ineligible to be VP

 
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Wrong.

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
This case concerned Mrs. Minor, an original suffragette, who in virtue of the 14th Amendment attempted to register to vote in the State of Missouri, and was refused because she was not a man. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in that year wrote the majority opinion, in which he stated:

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens
, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.
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Her parents were US citizens when she was born dooky booty.
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Before I address her parents citizenship status, do you agree she is NOT eligible if they were not US Citizens at the time of her birth?
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Are you comparing former slaves to immigrants?
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ILYS-dude
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Jesus is coming soon and Man oh Man is he pissed off. America is fucking Babylon and elects Luciferians.
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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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Not natural born. Has to be born of 2 citizen parents in country of their citizenship. One was Jamaican. The other from India.
Obama was ineligible too. But Pelosi let it slide.

Last Edited by NightWisp on 08/11/2020 11:52 PM
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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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That doesn’t fly

Read the fucking constitution.
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The funny thing is that is one of the better arguments presented in defense of her eligibility.

They don't even try, probably because the issue is just too complicated for them.
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Any Christian voting for people who tear apart babies and take away the natural right to own and bear arms is Hell bound.

You are going to burn in HELL.
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Her parents were US citizens when she was born dooky booty.
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Before I address her parents citizenship status, do you agree she is NOT eligible if they were not US Citizens at the time of her birth?
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Are you comparing former slaves to immigrants?
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Did you just call Kamala Harris a stanky ho?
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You're a very racist individual for implying immigrants are the same as slaves after everything the slaves endured.
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Her parents were US citizens when she was born dooky booty.
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Before I address her parents citizenship status, do you agree she is NOT eligible if they were not US Citizens at the time of her birth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71611133


Are you comparing former slaves to immigrants?
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Did you just call Kamala Harris a stanky ho?
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It's also very ignorant to compare a group of people that lived on US soil for generations to somebody that just poops out a kid on US soil.
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is the law still relevant
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Got awfully quiet in here.

cruise
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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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wasnt she born in the same village as Obama???
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The USA should just be nuked into an ash heap.
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Before I address her parents citizenship status, do you agree she is NOT eligible if they were not US Citizens at the time of her birth?
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Are you comparing former slaves to immigrants?
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Did you just call Kamala Harris a stanky ho?
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You're a very racist individual for implying immigrants are the same as slaves after everything the slaves endured.
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HOW DARE YOU call Kamala a stanky ho you racist, misogynist, strong wamyn hating BIGOT
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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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Nope. Both parents have to be US Citizens at the time of her birth. One came here in 1961 and the other in 1963 and neither were here the full five years when Kamala was born in 1964.

Trump's got both Biden and Harris where he wants them.

Everyone needs to inform Trump and Bill Barr. The Democrat ticket is hereby invalidated and Trump wins 2020 by default.

epiclol
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Didnt stop the senator from Kenya
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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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wasnt she born in the same village as Obama???
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Couldn't have been. Only 1 idiot per village allowed.
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Also the citizenship laws are very clear. An alien must live in the country for 5 years with a green card before even applying for citizenship.

Any child born in that time will be born a citizen just not a natural born citizens. which means they can do everything except run for vp or president.
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Are you comparing former slaves to immigrants?
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Did you just call Kamala Harris a stanky ho?
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You're a very racist individual for implying immigrants are the same as slaves after everything the slaves endured.
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HOW DARE YOU call Kamala a stanky ho you racist, misogynist, strong wamyn hating BIGOT
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You're embarrassing yourself.
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Got awfully quiet in here.

cruise
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That's because one side has done a shit ton of research, has SCOTUS decisions supporting their argument, has historical letters from John Jay, Alexander Hamilton written to George Washington that support their argument, can cite a contemporary source for the definition they are using that was influential in the drafting of the Constitution that supports their argument and the other side has one sentence rebuttals with no links, court decision or sources that the Founding Fathers might have been influenced by.

It's not even a fair debate.
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Did you just call Kamala Harris a stanky ho?
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You're a very racist individual for implying immigrants are the same as slaves after everything the slaves endured.
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HOW DARE YOU call Kamala a stanky ho you racist, misogynist, strong wamyn hating BIGOT
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You're embarrassing yourself.
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I'm just lowering myself to the level of the idiots who are desperate to change the subject because they got schooled on the topic at hand.

It's a fun break from trying to educate mental midgets.
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Did you just call Kamala Harris a stanky ho?
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You're a very racist individual for implying immigrants are the same as slaves after everything the slaves endured.
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HOW DARE YOU call Kamala a stanky ho you racist, misogynist, strong wamyn hating BIGOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71611133


You're embarrassing yourself.
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I didn't want to say anything but.... ^this
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
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This is the derpyest thing ever. She was born here. I think she’s terrible. But she’s eligible.
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this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
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hesright


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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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Nope. Both parents have to be US Citizens at the time of her birth. One came here in 1961 and the other in 1963 and neither were here the full five years when Kamala was born in 1964.

Trump's got both Biden and Harris where he wants them.

Everyone needs to inform Trump and Bill Barr. The Democrat ticket is hereby invalidated and Trump wins 2020 by default.

epiclol
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1rof1

keep believing in your dreams OP, one day you will get out of that crusty damp basement
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The original requirement of natural born citizen was in the constitution from the start.

Natural Born Citizen has only ever been mentioned 1 time in US law and it was in 1790.
The act defined natural born citizen and someone born to 2 American citizen parents.

Birthright by land wasn't a thing until 1868 and was not meant to apply to vagrants/illegal immigrants.
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Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
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Also the citizenship laws are very clear. An alien must live in the country for 5 years with a green card before even applying for citizenship.

Any child born in that time will be born a citizen just not a natural born citizens. which means they can do everything except run for vp or president.
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And WHAT cereal box did YOU get your law degree from?

14th Amendment, MORAN!!!


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Nope. Both parents have to be US Citizens at the time of her birth. One came here in 1961 and the other in 1963 and neither were here the full five years when Kamala was born in 1964.

Trump's got both Biden and Harris where he wants them.

Everyone needs to inform Trump and Bill Barr. The Democrat ticket is hereby invalidated and Trump wins 2020 by default.

epiclol
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1rof1

keep believing in your dreams OP, one day you will get out of that crusty damp basement
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The original requirement of natural born citizen was in the constitution from the start.

Natural Born Citizen has only ever been mentioned 1 time in US law and it was in 1790.
The act defined natural born citizen and someone born to 2 American citizen parents.

Birthright by land wasn't a thing until 1868 and was not meant to apply to vagrants/illegal immigrants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703378


Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
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The definition of who is a natural born citizen was never changed.

Only the definition of who is a citizen.

They're 2 different things.
Therefore the original definition would still apply.
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1rof1

keep believing in your dreams OP, one day you will get out of that crusty damp basement
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The original requirement of natural born citizen was in the constitution from the start.

Natural Born Citizen has only ever been mentioned 1 time in US law and it was in 1790.
The act defined natural born citizen and someone born to 2 American citizen parents.

Birthright by land wasn't a thing until 1868 and was not meant to apply to vagrants/illegal immigrants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703378


Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79216189


The definition of who is a natural born citizen was never changed.

Only the definition of who is a citizen.

They're 2 different things.
Therefore the original definition would still apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75155949


is that yore opinion? or the supreme courts opinion?
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The original requirement of natural born citizen was in the constitution from the start.

Natural Born Citizen has only ever been mentioned 1 time in US law and it was in 1790.
The act defined natural born citizen and someone born to 2 American citizen parents.

Birthright by land wasn't a thing until 1868 and was not meant to apply to vagrants/illegal immigrants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703378


Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79216189


The definition of who is a natural born citizen was never changed.

Only the definition of who is a citizen.

They're 2 different things.
Therefore the original definition would still apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75155949


is that yore opinion? or the supreme courts opinion?
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Supreme Court will not rule on it.
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The original requirement of natural born citizen was in the constitution from the start.

Natural Born Citizen has only ever been mentioned 1 time in US law and it was in 1790.
The act defined natural born citizen and someone born to 2 American citizen parents.

Birthright by land wasn't a thing until 1868 and was not meant to apply to vagrants/illegal immigrants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703378


Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79216189


The definition of who is a natural born citizen was never changed.

Only the definition of who is a citizen.

They're 2 different things.
Therefore the original definition would still apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75155949


is that yore opinion? or the supreme courts opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79216189


Here is the SCOTUS opinion:

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
This case concerned Mrs. Minor, an original suffragette, who in virtue of the 14th Amendment attempted to register to vote in the State of Missouri, and was refused because she was not a man. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in that year wrote the majority opinion, in which he stated:

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens
, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.
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Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79216189


The definition of who is a natural born citizen was never changed.

Only the definition of who is a citizen.

They're 2 different things.
Therefore the original definition would still apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75155949


is that yore opinion? or the supreme courts opinion?
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Supreme Court will not rule on it.
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Clarence Thomas said as much, but if President TRUMP decides to challenge this, he has standing and the SCOTUS may be forced into a decision.

...which Roberts will probably screw up and side with the liberals.
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The original requirement of natural born citizen was in the constitution from the start.

Natural Born Citizen has only ever been mentioned 1 time in US law and it was in 1790.
The act defined natural born citizen and someone born to 2 American citizen parents.

Birthright by land wasn't a thing until 1868 and was not meant to apply to vagrants/illegal immigrants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703378


Well we are after 1868 now. Clearly you are saying that the various laws have changed. So what is the law now? No point trying to follow 1790 law or 1864 law. What is 2020 law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79216189


The definition of who is a natural born citizen was never changed.

Only the definition of who is a citizen.

They're 2 different things.
Therefore the original definition would still apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75155949


is that yore opinion? or the supreme courts opinion?
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Lets put it this way.
Not counting the presidents that qualified for exemptions due to date of birth.

There has only been 1 president that was not born to 2 American Citizens.

Barrack Hussein Obama.
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1rof1lmao

this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
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