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Kamala Harris is NOT a Natural Born Citizen and is ineligible to be VP

 
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
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There is no five year requirement.

Fuck off with your fake news

bsflag
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Link?
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How can anyone come up with a link for something that is fake?
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Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
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Perhaps you’ve never heard of jus soli citizenship

You are born in u.s. you automatically get citizenship she was born in Oakland CA end of story
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Born a US Citizen, sure.

Natural Born Citizen? Nope! She would need BOTH parents to be US Citizens at the time of her birth to be a Natural Born Citizen.

FAUXbama wasn't eligible either.

There are discussion about this issue from John Jay and Alexander Hamilton written to George Washington. John Jay's 'Natural Born Citizen' requirement was clearly adopted.

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1. Constitutional Convention – “Born a Citizen” v “Natural Born Citizen":

When developing a new U.S. Constitution for the United States of America, Alexander Hamilton submitted a suggested draft on June 18, 1787. In addition, he also submitted to the framers a proposal for the qualification requirements in Article II as to the necessary Citizenship status for the office of President and Commander in Chief of the Military.

Alexander Hamilton’s suggested presidential eligibility clause:

No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.

Many of the founders and framers expressed fear of foreign influence on the person who would in the future serve as President of the United States since this particular office was singularly and uniquely powerful under the proposed new Constitution. This question of foreign influence was elevated when John Jay considered the additional power granted to the Presidency during times of war, that is when he serves as Commander in Chief of the military. Jay felt strongly that whoever served as President and Commander In Chief during times of war must owe their sole allegiance to and only to the United States.

Because this fear of foreign influence on a future President and Commander in Chief was strongly felt, Jay took it upon himself to draft a letter to General George Washington, the presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention, recommending/hinting that the framers should strengthen the Citizenship requirements for the office of the President.

John Jay was an avid reader and proponent of natural law and particularly Vattel’s codification of natural law and the Law of Nations. In his letter to Washington he said that the Citizenship requirement for the office of the commander of our armies should contain a “strong check” against foreign influence and he recommended to Washington that the command of the military be open only to a “natural born Citizen”. Thus Jay did not agree that simply being a “born Citizen” was sufficient enough protection from foreign influence in the singular most powerful office in the new form of government. Rather, Jay wanted to make sure the President and Commander In Chief owed his allegiance solely to the United States of America. He wanted another adjective added to the eligibility clause, i.e., ‘natural’. And that word ‘natural’ goes to the Citizenship status of one’s parents via natural law.

Below is the relevant change to Hamilton’s proposed language detailed in Jay’s letter written to George Washington dated 25 July 1787:

Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

See a transcription of Jay’s letter to Washington at this link.

Upon receiving Jay’s letter, General Washington passed on the recommendation to the convention where it was adopted in the final draft. Thus Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, the fundamental law of our nation reads:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 September 1787:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

There you have the crux of the issue now before the nation and the answer.

Hamilton’s suggested presidential citizenship eligibility requirement was that a Citizen simply had to be ‘born a Citizen’ of the USA, i.e., a Citizen by Birth. But that citizenship status was overwhelmingly rejected by the framers as insufficient. Instead of allowing any person “born a citizen” to be President and Commander of the military, the framers chose to adopt the more stringent requirement recommended by John Jay, i.e., requiring the Citizen to be a “natural born Citizen“, to block any chance of future Presidents owing allegiance to other foreign nations or claims on their allegiance at birth from becoming President and Commander of the Military.. Therefore, the President of the United States must be a “natural born citizen” with unity of citizenship and sole allegiance to the United States at birth. [SOURCE CREDIT]

So why do we keep hearing about the President only needing to be “born a citizen”? Well, let’s start with the fallacy of the 14th amendment trumping Article II -
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It's true. One parent is Indian and the other is Jamaican.

:kamalaha:
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So what one of my parents are German and ones Italian and I’m still an American citizen.
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Native born not natural.
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she's a Commie.
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100%!! An enemy of freedom! Tied into the over throw of this nation!! One word! smollette She stinks!scared
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She was born in USA morans lol
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under the new constitution, dont matter
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welcome to Trump America
$100 says he asks for get birth certificate


epiclol
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Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
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:rere23:
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Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
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splat5
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Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64026650


You keep sticking up for your demon like a good minion. She has evil written all over her and a worse liar and BIDEN. Trump 2020 lmao
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
 Quoting: Birther 76390259


It doesn't matter, she was born here.

stopposting1
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1rof1lmao

this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76982035


Again?

Even Obama's own brother says he was born in Kenya and us a fraud.

Obama's never presented an authentic original birth certificate. There is no Obama Birth certificate signed by any actual doctor.

Because it didn't happen here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78646077


Even Donald Trump said "Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period "


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78052969


Meh, that was political.

You are stupid.

The type of stupid Dem that wouldn't even bat an eyelash at Obama's own brother publicly calling him a fraud and saying he was born in Africa.

Trump is just our 1st messenger we sent to poke the fence. He had to drop it when Obama used the corrupt system to produce a fake copy of his birth certificate.

You would be absolutely shocked if you really researched Obama.

Are you even aware that his mother was literally a professional whore, and there are real nude photos all over the internet.

But that doesn't bother you either.

Because you just don't think for yourself, do you?
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Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64026650


So we only get to fight against the same lowlife tactics only once. Then we let you fuck us? Why?
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
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bsflag and im voting Trump
Regarding my name its my nickname from my friends lol
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Re: Kamala Harris is NOT a Natural Born Citizen and is ineligible to be VP
Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64026650


Its nice to know YA'LL don't hold her past as slave owners in Jamaica. You will of course extend the same courtesy to your current President I'm sure. Suckers.
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1rof1lmao

this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76982035



We know Dems are lawless but we DO have a Constitution we should follow. And I have to ask WHY these parties keep picking candidates who technically ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
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1rof1lmao

this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76982035


Not shitting bricks, tired of Dems not following the rules. Her parents were not even citizens of the US when she was born!

Anchor baby!
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under the new constitution, dont matter
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welcome to Trump America
$100 says he asks for get birth certificate


epiclol
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OH NO....he afraid U might laugh on a forum at him. You scary! lmao
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
 Quoting: Birther 76390259


It doesn't matter, she was born here.

stopposting1
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THAT doesn't matter. Please try to keep up. She must be NATURAL BORN, and she is not.
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1rof1lmao

this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76982035



We know Dems are lawless but we DO have a Constitution we should follow. And I have to ask WHY these parties keep picking candidates who technically ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Because their mindfucked spellbound minions love it. They think its a good thing because they are told to.
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hmmm
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
 Quoting: Birther 76390259


It doesn't matter, she was born here.

stopposting1
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That is NOT the only requirement according to the Constitution. The parents have to be citizens also and there is a residency requirement. I understand Democrats ar completely lawless people, but we have to FIGHT THIS TREND at disregarding the LAW. There is a REASON the Founders put these requirements in and it's because they wanted to ensure maximum loyalty to the US and minimum connection to other countries. It was a WISE thing to do.
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Ugh... we really gotta do this again?
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We have to. We are under a j w lsh occupation

They intend to have all nonwhites as their puppets after trump
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Sounds like you need an all white safe place?
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If she was born in the USA then she is a natural born citizen.

That is all.
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1rof1lmao

this shit again? wow Repubs are shitting bricks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76982035



We know Dems are lawless but we DO have a Constitution we should follow. And I have to ask WHY these parties keep picking candidates who technically ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Republicans have ran ineligible candidates as well.

Ted Cruz for one. Bobby Jindal is another. Marco Rubio aws well. Rick Santorum possibly - His father immigrated to the US from Italy and became a US Citizen at some point, but he needed to be a US Citizen BEFORE Rick Santorum was born in order to be a Natural Born Citizen.

They used to teach the definition of Natural Born Citizen in school. I had to memorize it verbatim and have NEVER forgotten it.

Natural Born Citizen - Born in the US to 2 US Citizen parents.
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Why not just do what the dems do, have some judge file a lawsuit then help it along.
To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right.

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some random judge from a small state.

Last Edited by vEyeSea on 08/11/2020 08:00 PM
To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right.

The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant.
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If she was born in the USA then she is a natural born citizen.

That is all.
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Wrong.
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
 Quoting: Birther 76390259


It doesn't matter, she was born here.

stopposting1
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That is NOT the only requirement according to the Constitution. The parents have to be citizens also and there is a residency requirement. I understand Democrats ar completely lawless people, but we have to FIGHT THIS TREND at disregarding the LAW. There is a REASON the Founders put these requirements in and it's because they wanted to ensure maximum loyalty to the US and minimum connection to other countries. It was a WISE thing to do.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


But you don't question Trump's loyalty when he ignores the Russian bounties on US soldiers? Puhlease. So pathetic. Talk about an utter failure of loyalty. AND never mind he is Putin's bitch.
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Oh, this is SOOO pathetic.

And SO old!!


The old Birther Bull.


Ya'll sound scared because you know Kamala will whip trump's and Pence's ass!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64026650


She couldn't beat Braindead Biden. lmao
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Harris's parents didn't live in the US the entire Five required years for Kamala to be Natural Born.

Trump needs to order Bill Barr to launch a Justice Department investigation of Biden's campaign. Election fraud can get both Biden and Harris thrown in prison
 Quoting: Birther 76390259


It doesn't matter, she was born here.

stopposting1
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It does matter. Her parents were not US citizens.
So if the King of Saudi comes here to visit for a few months and his wife drops a baby boy here and that boy becomes Prince of Saudi Arabia, then comes and lives here for several years and gets his education here, he's qualified to run for President? The Prince can be President of the US? I don't think so...

Natural born citizen has a specific definition and it is being born on US soil or territory by US citizen parents!

Not simply being born on US soil. Even if you come from a foreign country and become a US citizen you can't run for President.





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