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Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?

 
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These people are Satanists and the opposite of Jesus. These are the descendants of the killers of Jesus who asked Pilatus to kill Jesus and have His blood over them and their descendants. These people are destroying the Earth and behead billions of people. However, a few people who praise Jesus as the true Son of God will have such a connection with the Lord, that when they are scheduled for beheading, such beheading will be evaded out of all power for the assassins to kill them.

These are the Elect.
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the "elect" are the non-human hybreds that were created by Aliens to rule over the true-bloods ... the "royals" the "Illuminati" the "globalist" ect ect ect ... we all know who they are - by their greed
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In your opinion

or thus sayeth You?
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do you have a problem with choosing life over death?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


How do you mean by that statement? Just curious. In the following passages we told:


While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 corinthians 4:18


For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11


Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 john 2:15


He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
 Quoting: Little Lost


Exactly to Cor 4:18.

Phil 1:21 to live is to attain the higher consciousness of Christ, and before you can do that we must die to our "self" which is mind/ego.

Rev. 12:11..... not worth going there at this time.

1 John 2:15 .... yes. What I said regarding Phil 1:21.

Matthew 10:39 ~ Once we have found the life in Christ, we no longer seek life through the mind/ego.

It's learning to live through the heart rather than the mind that gives us life, and life more abundantly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




Appreciate your response! I would argue about revelation 12:11 as I personally believe we are in that time.

Tell me more about this christ consciousness you speak of? I've always put that down to some new age statement along the lines of you can become Godlike which is of course satans lies. Jesus lived the perfect life and no other than him had done so. The bible says we all fall short and those who say they are without sin doesnt have the truth of the father in him. The original passage doesnt stipulate anything ascertaining to consciousness and the word concious does feature in the bible else where so it's not like it was not understood at the time:


Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron 1 Timothy 4:2


The only thing I was aware of that you could be filled with if worthy is the holy spirit?
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the "elect" are the non-human hybreds that were created by Aliens to rule over the true-bloods ... the "royals" the "Illuminati" the "globalist" ect ect ect ... we all know who they are - by their greed
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Lol. No.
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do you have a problem with choosing life over death?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


How do you mean by that statement? Just curious. In the following passages we told:


While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 corinthians 4:18


For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11


Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 john 2:15


He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
 Quoting: Little Lost


Exactly to Cor 4:18.

Phil 1:21 to live is to attain the higher consciousness of Christ, and before you can do that we must die to our "self" which is mind/ego.

Rev. 12:11..... not worth going there at this time.

1 John 2:15 .... yes. What I said regarding Phil 1:21.

Matthew 10:39 ~ Once we have found the life in Christ, we no longer seek life through the mind/ego.

It's learning to live through the heart rather than the mind that gives us life, and life more abundantly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




Appreciate your response! I would argue about revelation 12:11 as I personally believe we are in that time.

Tell me more about this christ consciousness you speak of? I've always put that down to some new age statement along the lines of you can become Godlike which is of course satans lies. Jesus lived the perfect life and no other than him had done so. The bible says we all fall short and those who say they are without sin doesnt have the truth of the father in him. The original passage doesnt stipulate anything ascertaining to consciousness and the word concious does feature in the bible else where so it's not like it was not understood at the time:


Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron 1 Timothy 4:2


The only thing I was aware of that you could be filled with if worthy is the holy spirit?
 Quoting: Little Lost



Firstly, remember that everything, EVERYTHING you hear that is of new age, has been hijacked from truth. Therein lies the necessity to have finely honed discernment skills.

Second, I'm not prepared to discuss anything in Revelation at this time, because one, it's been argued over for decades by eschotologists to the moon and back, when all was pointless. The book was written in code and symbology. There's no way to take it in any literal sense.

Back to the new agey term of christ consciousness, yes, this term has been hijacked by the god of this world and it is attempting to USE this as a tool to gain its own followers.

In truth, Christ is a title, a status. Not a "name." As attached to Yahshua's name, it means THE *appointed* one. So, when I say to attain Christ consciousness, means to attain a state of consciousness that is elevated FROM the darkness into which we fell. I know it sounds new agey, but what I am saying is not. I promise.

So while I am not THE Christ, Christ lives in me. And as he lives in me and the Father reigns in my heart, we are one, as he and the Father are one. As he prayed for, the night before his execution.

Does that help?
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It obviously is not everyone. The Bible calls the elect a small flock.
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Where does it say this? Can you post a verse so we can compare the context?

Thank you,
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"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."



Matthew 7:13-15
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"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock:

and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand:

and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall."


And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching,

for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.




Matthew 7:21-29
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So you are not one of us? and you are not willing?.

[smiles sweetly]

"I salute the light within your eyes where the whole universe dwells. For when you are at that center within you and I am at that place within me, we shall be one." – Chief Crazy Horse toking the Sacred Pipe with Sitting Bull for the last time.
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So you are not one of us? and you are not willing?.

[smiles sweetly]

"I salute the light within your eyes where the whole universe dwells. For when you are at that center within you and I am at that place within me, we shall be one." – Chief Crazy Horse toking the Sacred Pipe with Sitting Bull for the last time.
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Take your meds
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I am not talking to you.

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So we, Your people and sheep of Your pasture,
Will give You thanks forever;
We will show forth Your praise to all generations.



Psalms 79:13
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Interestingly, I was inspired to search out this same verse at the same time, read it, almost posted it, then didn't,
then came here and saw that you did at the same time,
so I bump it now again.


"Hypocrites! How well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

For in vain do they worship me, teaching the doctrines and commandments of men.
’”

And having called the multitudes to him, he said to them: “Listen and understand.

A man is not defiled by what enters into the mouth, but by what proceeds from the mouth. This is what defiles a man.”

Then his disciples drew near and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees, upon hearing this word, were offended?”

But in response he said: “Every plant which has not been planted by my heavenly Father shall be uprooted.

Leave them alone. They are blind, and they lead the blind. But if the blind are in charge of the blind, both will fall into the pit.”

And responding, Peter said to him, “Explain this parable to us.”

But he said: “Are you, even now, without understanding?

Do you not understand that everything that enters into the mouth goes into the gut, and is cast into the sewer?

But what proceeds from the mouth, goes forth from the heart, and those are the things that defile a man.

For from the heart go out evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.

These are the things that defile a man. But to eat without washing hands does not defile a man.” - Lord Jesus in Matthew 15:7-20


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How do you mean by that statement? Just curious. In the following passages we told:


While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 corinthians 4:18


For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11


Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 john 2:15


He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
 Quoting: Little Lost


Exactly to Cor 4:18.

Phil 1:21 to live is to attain the higher consciousness of Christ, and before you can do that we must die to our "self" which is mind/ego.

Rev. 12:11..... not worth going there at this time.

1 John 2:15 .... yes. What I said regarding Phil 1:21.

Matthew 10:39 ~ Once we have found the life in Christ, we no longer seek life through the mind/ego.

It's learning to live through the heart rather than the mind that gives us life, and life more abundantly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




Appreciate your response! I would argue about revelation 12:11 as I personally believe we are in that time.

Tell me more about this christ consciousness you speak of? I've always put that down to some new age statement along the lines of you can become Godlike which is of course satans lies. Jesus lived the perfect life and no other than him had done so. The bible says we all fall short and those who say they are without sin doesnt have the truth of the father in him. The original passage doesnt stipulate anything ascertaining to consciousness and the word concious does feature in the bible else where so it's not like it was not understood at the time:


Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron 1 Timothy 4:2


The only thing I was aware of that you could be filled with if worthy is the holy spirit?
 Quoting: Little Lost



Firstly, remember that everything, EVERYTHING you hear that is of new age, has been hijacked from truth. Therein lies the necessity to have finely honed discernment skills.

Second, I'm not prepared to discuss anything in Revelation at this time, because one, it's been argued over for decades by eschotologists to the moon and back, when all was pointless. The book was written in code and symbology. There's no way to take it in any literal sense.

Back to the new agey term of christ consciousness, yes, this term has been hijacked by the god of this world and it is attempting to USE this as a tool to gain its own followers.

In truth, Christ is a title, a status. Not a "name." As attached to Yahshua's name, it means THE *appointed* one. So, when I say to attain Christ consciousness, means to attain a state of consciousness that is elevated FROM the darkness into which we fell. I know it sounds new agey, but what I am saying is not. I promise.

So while I am not THE Christ, Christ lives in me. And as he lives in me and the Father reigns in my heart, we are one, as he and the Father are one. As he prayed for, the night before his execution.

Does that help?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




I really appreciate your response - thank you! I can see you are very passionate about your beliefs and have probably arrived at such conclusions through your own extensive research. I respect your opinion but will politely disagree. I see the events of matthew and revelation unfolding and I have put discussions ascertaining to such notions in my signature thread at the bottom of this post - only if your curious! I personally believe new age is a spiritual deception and is part of the end game agenda from satan, hints as such have been put before us previously, example below from black eyes peas.

https://imgur.com/sQVhsEj


https://imgur.com/pgobqSc



Really enjoyed the discussion, interesting to hear other peoples view points and done so with dignity and without argument showing a discussion around one's individual beliefs out weighs another. I believe we are all guests on the planet and no one has more right than the other. In the same way you've researched your own I sights and drawn your own conclusions, I have done so with mine. Thanks for the discussion and presenting your understanding of christ consciousness
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When Catholics are confirmed they are referred to as 'The Elect' as they prepare for admission to the church.

It's a really big thing in a quiet way, completely absent ego.

It means that they are literally chosen by God as His people.

It's like The Catholic church knows something the rest of us don't.
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Catholics approve themselves.

All men approve themselves..
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With respect, this is all beyond ego, one's mundane need for approval.


"To elect" means "to choose".
A person who is chosen is called 'an Elect'. The Catholic church wholly believes that God, through the Holy Spirit, calls the Elect, singular and plural.
That church is not particularly evangelical body. Rather, the Holy Spirit calls people.


God specifically chooses individuals and calls to them to become part of the body of Christ's church on this earth and later in heaven. God does all the choosing, not the church.


Now, 'God' could actually be any sort of unimaginably vastly advanced intelligent, sentient being who functions primarily as the power for good and the promulgator of good in this universe and every other possible universe.

If one thinks about it that way, a whole lot of other stuff makes a lot of sense.

The Catholic church is actively on top of all the related science.
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All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.



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the majority of the church as a whole.
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In the OT Israel was called the elect along with Christ.

Isa 45:4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
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'And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord GOD: "Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep, between rams and goats.


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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
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"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.

Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers."


Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

Then Jesus said to them again, "Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.

But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees;
and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them.

The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep.

I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own.

As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.

And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.




John 10:1-16
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"But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.



John 10:26-28
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Interestingly, I was inspired to search out this same verse at the same time, read it, almost posted it, then didn't,
then came here and saw that you did at the same time,
so I bump it now again.


"Hypocrites! How well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

For in vain do they worship me, teaching the doctrines and commandments of men.
’”

And having called the multitudes to him, he said to them: “Listen and understand.

A man is not defiled by what enters into the mouth, but by what proceeds from the mouth. This is what defiles a man.”

Then his disciples drew near and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees, upon hearing this word, were offended?”

But in response he said: “Every plant which has not been planted by my heavenly Father shall be uprooted.

Leave them alone. They are blind, and they lead the blind. But if the blind are in charge of the blind, both will fall into the pit.”

And responding, Peter said to him, “Explain this parable to us.”

But he said: “Are you, even now, without understanding?

Do you not understand that everything that enters into the mouth goes into the gut, and is cast into the sewer?

But what proceeds from the mouth, goes forth from the heart, and those are the things that defile a man.

For from the heart go out evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.

These are the things that defile a man. But to eat without washing hands does not defile a man.” - Lord Jesus in Matthew 15:7-20


pennywise

Ishmael said: Said to me Metatron, the Prince of the Presence and the prince over all the princes and he stands before Him who is greater than all the Elohim. And he goes in under the Throne of Glory. And he has a great tabernacle of light on high. And he brings forth the fire of deafness and puts into the ears of the Holy Chayyoth, that they may not hear the voice of the Word that goes forth from the mouth of the Divine Majesty. And when Moses ascended on high, he fasted 121 fasts, till the habitations of the chashmal were opened to him; and he saw the heart within the heart of the Lion and he saw the innumerable companies of the hosts Around about him. And they desired to burn him. But Moses prayed for mercy, first for Israel and after that for himself: and He who sitteth on the Merkaba opened the windows that are above the heads of the Kerubim. And a host of 1800 advocates and the Prince of the Presence, Metatron, with them went forth to meet Moses. And they took the prayers of Israel and put them as a crown on the head of [Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] the Holy One, blessed be He. And they said: "Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord" and their face shone and rejoiced over Shekina and they said to Metatron: "What are these? And to whom do they give all this honour and glory?" And they answered: "To the Glorious Lord of Israel". And they spake: "Hear, O Israel: the Lord, our God, is one Lord. To whom shall be given abundance of honour and majesty but to Thee YHWH, the Divine Majesty, the King, living and eternal". In that moment spake Akatriel Yah Yehod Sebaoth and said to Metatron, the Prince of the Presence: "Let no prayer that he prayeth before me return void. Hear thou his prayer and fulfil his desire whether great or small". Forthwith Metatron, the Prince of the Presence, said to Moses: "Son of Amram! Fear not, for now God delights in thee. And ask thou thy desire of the Glory and Majesty. For thy face shines from one end of the world to the other". But Moses answered him: "lest I bring guiltiness upon myself". Metatron said to him: "Receive the letters of the oath, in which there is no breaking the covenant", kingdoms were standing before me, on my right and on my left by authority of [Enoch, the Lord, God of hosts] the Holy One, blessed be He. But when Acher [Pope 'Paul & Cephas' Francis] came to behold the vision of the Merkaba and fixed his eyes on me, he feared and trembled before me and his soul was affrighted even unto departing from him, because of fear, horror and dread of me, when he beheld me sitting upon a throne like a king with all the ministering angels standing by me as my servants and all the princes of kingdoms adorned with crowns surrounding me in that moment he opened his mouth and said: "Indeed, there are two Divine Powers in heaven!". Forthwith Bath Qol went forth from heaven from before the Shekina and said: "Return, ye backsliding children, except Acher!". Then came 'Aniyel, the Prince, the honoured, glorified, beloved, wonderful, revered and fearful one, in commission from the Holy One, blessed be He and gave me sixty strokes with lashes of fire and made me stand on my feet. - The Book Of Enoch II C15-b, Metatron Transformed Into Fire
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Cheers, must've missed some of deleted threads, here another.

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From that time, Jesus began to reveal to his disciples that it was necessary for him to go to Jerusalem, and to suffer much from the elders and the scribes and the leaders of the priests, and to be killed, and to rise again on the third day [after 2000 years, for a day to the Lord is 1000 years].

And Peter [the swarthy a.k.a Cephas is Pope 'Acher & Paul' Francis], taking him aside, began to rebuke him, saying, “Lord, may it be far from you; this shall not happen to you.”

And turning away, Jesus said to Peter [Pope Francis]: “Get behind me, Satan; you are an obstacle to me. For you are not behaving according to what is of God, but according to what is of [sons of] men.”

Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone is willing to come after me [as the Great Anti-Christ], let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

For whoever would save his life, will lose it. But whoever will have lost his life for my sake, shall find it.

For how does it benefit a man, if he gains the whole world, yet truly suffers damage to his soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?.

For the Son of man [Elijah the prophet] will arrive in the glory of his Father, with his Angels. And then he will repay each one according to his behavior.

Amen, there are some here who will not taste death before they see the Son of man [Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] coming in his kingdom.” - Lord Jesus in Matthew 16:21-28 Vulgate Bible


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For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.


1Peter 2:25
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Exactly to Cor 4:18.

Phil 1:21 to live is to attain the higher consciousness of Christ, and before you can do that we must die to our "self" which is mind/ego.

Rev. 12:11..... not worth going there at this time.

1 John 2:15 .... yes. What I said regarding Phil 1:21.

Matthew 10:39 ~ Once we have found the life in Christ, we no longer seek life through the mind/ego.

It's learning to live through the heart rather than the mind that gives us life, and life more abundantly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




Appreciate your response! I would argue about revelation 12:11 as I personally believe we are in that time.

Tell me more about this christ consciousness you speak of? I've always put that down to some new age statement along the lines of you can become Godlike which is of course satans lies. Jesus lived the perfect life and no other than him had done so. The bible says we all fall short and those who say they are without sin doesnt have the truth of the father in him. The original passage doesnt stipulate anything ascertaining to consciousness and the word concious does feature in the bible else where so it's not like it was not understood at the time:


Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron 1 Timothy 4:2


The only thing I was aware of that you could be filled with if worthy is the holy spirit?
 Quoting: Little Lost



Firstly, remember that everything, EVERYTHING you hear that is of new age, has been hijacked from truth. Therein lies the necessity to have finely honed discernment skills.

Second, I'm not prepared to discuss anything in Revelation at this time, because one, it's been argued over for decades by eschotologists to the moon and back, when all was pointless. The book was written in code and symbology. There's no way to take it in any literal sense.

Back to the new agey term of christ consciousness, yes, this term has been hijacked by the god of this world and it is attempting to USE this as a tool to gain its own followers.

In truth, Christ is a title, a status. Not a "name." As attached to Yahshua's name, it means THE *appointed* one. So, when I say to attain Christ consciousness, means to attain a state of consciousness that is elevated FROM the darkness into which we fell. I know it sounds new agey, but what I am saying is not. I promise.

So while I am not THE Christ, Christ lives in me. And as he lives in me and the Father reigns in my heart, we are one, as he and the Father are one. As he prayed for, the night before his execution.

Does that help?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




I really appreciate your response - thank you! I can see you are very passionate about your beliefs and have probably arrived at such conclusions through your own extensive research. I respect your opinion but will politely disagree. I see the events of matthew and revelation unfolding and I have put discussions ascertaining to such notions in my signature thread at the bottom of this post - only if your curious! I personally believe new age is a spiritual deception and is part of the end game agenda from satan, hints as such have been put before us previously, example below from black eyes peas.

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]


Really enjoyed the discussion, interesting to hear other peoples view points and done so with dignity and without argument showing a discussion around one's individual beliefs out weighs another. I believe we are all guests on the planet and no one has more right than the other. In the same way you've researched your own I sights and drawn your own conclusions, I have done so with mine. Thanks for the discussion and presenting your understanding of christ consciousness
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Thank you, I also appreciate your thoughts. And it's absolutely fine to disagree, as no one should be taught by another, but should learn on their own, through their heart.

It wasn't through research at all that I have come to be where I am, but through experience. Once you know something, you can't un-know it. ya know?

If you would please, would you mind pointing out specifically what I said that points to Satan or his control or deception? I've only spoken Yahshua's words.

Most christians accuse me of twisting his words. I don't. But if you perceive I do, please show me how, without using bible scripts. In your own heart-felt words.

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The Canticle song for praise, David. Come, let us sing to [Enoch] the Lord; Let us joyfully sing to God our savior;

Let us anticipate his presence with confession, and let us sing joyfully to him with psalms.

For The Lord [Jesus] is a great God and a great King over all gods.

For in his hand are all the limits of the earth, and the heights of mountains are his.

For the sea is his, and he made it, and his hands formed the dry land.

Come, let us adore and fall prostrate, and let us weep before [Enoch] the Lord who made us.

For he is [Enoch] the Lord our God, and we are the people of his pasture and the sheep of his hand.

If today you hear his voice, harden not your hearts:

as in provocation, according to the day of temptation in the wilderness where your fathers tempted me; they tested me, thought they had seen my works.

For forty years I was offended by that generation, and I said: These have always strayed in heart.

And these have not known my ways. So I swore in my wrath: They will not enter into my rest. - Psalm 94


sheep

The Lord [Enoch] said unto my Lord [Jesus], Sit thou at my right hand [as the Great Anti-Christ], until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The Lord [Jesus] shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion[ist]: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou [Elijah the prophet] hast the dew of thy youth. - Psalm 110:1-3


sheep

"All who have come before me [Elijah the prophet and Lord Jesus the great Anti-Christ] are [Government] thieves and [ZWO Derp State fugitives of Israel] robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them." - John 10:8

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"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." - John 10:27
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Appreciate your response! I would argue about revelation 12:11 as I personally believe we are in that time.

Tell me more about this christ consciousness you speak of? I've always put that down to some new age statement along the lines of you can become Godlike which is of course satans lies. Jesus lived the perfect life and no other than him had done so. The bible says we all fall short and those who say they are without sin doesnt have the truth of the father in him. The original passage doesnt stipulate anything ascertaining to consciousness and the word concious does feature in the bible else where so it's not like it was not understood at the time:


Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron 1 Timothy 4:2


The only thing I was aware of that you could be filled with if worthy is the holy spirit?
 Quoting: Little Lost



Firstly, remember that everything, EVERYTHING you hear that is of new age, has been hijacked from truth. Therein lies the necessity to have finely honed discernment skills.

Second, I'm not prepared to discuss anything in Revelation at this time, because one, it's been argued over for decades by eschotologists to the moon and back, when all was pointless. The book was written in code and symbology. There's no way to take it in any literal sense.

Back to the new agey term of christ consciousness, yes, this term has been hijacked by the god of this world and it is attempting to USE this as a tool to gain its own followers.

In truth, Christ is a title, a status. Not a "name." As attached to Yahshua's name, it means THE *appointed* one. So, when I say to attain Christ consciousness, means to attain a state of consciousness that is elevated FROM the darkness into which we fell. I know it sounds new agey, but what I am saying is not. I promise.

So while I am not THE Christ, Christ lives in me. And as he lives in me and the Father reigns in my heart, we are one, as he and the Father are one. As he prayed for, the night before his execution.

Does that help?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




I really appreciate your response - thank you! I can see you are very passionate about your beliefs and have probably arrived at such conclusions through your own extensive research. I respect your opinion but will politely disagree. I see the events of matthew and revelation unfolding and I have put discussions ascertaining to such notions in my signature thread at the bottom of this post - only if your curious! I personally believe new age is a spiritual deception and is part of the end game agenda from satan, hints as such have been put before us previously, example below from black eyes peas.

https://imgur.com/sQVhsEj


https://imgur.com/pgobqSc



Really enjoyed the discussion, interesting to hear other peoples view points and done so with dignity and without argument showing a discussion around one's individual beliefs out weighs another. I believe we are all guests on the planet and no one has more right than the other. In the same way you've researched your own I sights and drawn your own conclusions, I have done so with mine. Thanks for the discussion and presenting your understanding of christ consciousness
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Thank you, I also appreciate your thoughts. And it's absolutely fine to disagree, as no one should be taught by another, but should learn on their own, through their heart.

It wasn't through research at all that I have come to be where I am, but through experience. Once you know something, you can't un-know it. ya know?

If you would please, would you mind pointing out specifically what I said that points to Satan or his control or deception? I've only spoken Yahshua's words.

Most christians accuse me of twisting his words. I don't. But if you perceive I do, please show me how, without using bible scripts. In your own heart-felt words.

:Shaanti:
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




Christ consciousness and my understanding of it's new age association - that was all hence ny curiosity to your understanding of that word.
I'm smiling at this 'own experience'. That's exactly what has led me.down this road. I'm not going to bore you with the details but I've had demons, satan and aliens confirmed to me through experience. I understand we are in a spiritual war and there is an unseen realm that operates around us that can do things beyond the understanding that we are brought up to believe is possible, I've seen it, I seemed to have invoked the wrath of hell its self around me. I still dont understand what's going on, seriously I dont but as you've said, through personal experience we arrive at the conclusions that we do. Really enjoyed the discussion. I wish you well on your journey :)

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Paul at one point calls the Thessalonians the elect and Peter calls many strangers elect in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia.

1 thess 4:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
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Firstly, remember that everything, EVERYTHING you hear that is of new age, has been hijacked from truth. Therein lies the necessity to have finely honed discernment skills.

Second, I'm not prepared to discuss anything in Revelation at this time, because one, it's been argued over for decades by eschotologists to the moon and back, when all was pointless. The book was written in code and symbology. There's no way to take it in any literal sense.

Back to the new agey term of christ consciousness, yes, this term has been hijacked by the god of this world and it is attempting to USE this as a tool to gain its own followers.

In truth, Christ is a title, a status. Not a "name." As attached to Yahshua's name, it means THE *appointed* one. So, when I say to attain Christ consciousness, means to attain a state of consciousness that is elevated FROM the darkness into which we fell. I know it sounds new agey, but what I am saying is not. I promise.

So while I am not THE Christ, Christ lives in me. And as he lives in me and the Father reigns in my heart, we are one, as he and the Father are one. As he prayed for, the night before his execution.

Does that help?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




I really appreciate your response - thank you! I can see you are very passionate about your beliefs and have probably arrived at such conclusions through your own extensive research. I respect your opinion but will politely disagree. I see the events of matthew and revelation unfolding and I have put discussions ascertaining to such notions in my signature thread at the bottom of this post - only if your curious! I personally believe new age is a spiritual deception and is part of the end game agenda from satan, hints as such have been put before us previously, example below from black eyes peas.

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]


Really enjoyed the discussion, interesting to hear other peoples view points and done so with dignity and without argument showing a discussion around one's individual beliefs out weighs another. I believe we are all guests on the planet and no one has more right than the other. In the same way you've researched your own I sights and drawn your own conclusions, I have done so with mine. Thanks for the discussion and presenting your understanding of christ consciousness
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Thank you, I also appreciate your thoughts. And it's absolutely fine to disagree, as no one should be taught by another, but should learn on their own, through their heart.

It wasn't through research at all that I have come to be where I am, but through experience. Once you know something, you can't un-know it. ya know?

If you would please, would you mind pointing out specifically what I said that points to Satan or his control or deception? I've only spoken Yahshua's words.

Most christians accuse me of twisting his words. I don't. But if you perceive I do, please show me how, without using bible scripts. In your own heart-felt words.

:Shaanti:
 Quoting: Satya Revelations




Christ consciousness and my understanding of it's new age association - that was all hence ny curiosity to your understanding of that word.
I'm smiling at this 'own experience'. That's exactly what has led me.down this road. I'm not going to bore you with the details but I've had demons, satan and aliens confirmed to me through experience. I understand we are in a spiritual war and there is an unseen realm that operates around us that can do things beyond the understanding that we are brought up to believe is possible, I've seen it, I seemed to have invoked the wrath of hell its self around me. I still dont understand what's going on, seriously I dont but as you've said, through personal experience we arrive at the conclusions that we do. Really enjoyed the discussion. I wish you well on your journey :)
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I don't want to continue a discussion you don't want to have. But I'll just respond here.

You didn't point out anything I said that leads to satan, or was against Yashua's teachings and words.

I can only advise anyone else reading these posts that discernment is crucial, now more than ever. If you see a false light emanating from me, then FLEE from me. I'm not looking for followers. I'm only sharing what I've been given.

If you are happy where you are, then be happy.

I just beg everyone to understand, you are not at the end-alll-be-all road of knowledge. Knowledge will never cease until we are back home in totality with the Creator/Spirit.

Anyone who reads my words will NEVER see me say anything that leads away from the Father, and will lead to satan.

EVER.


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The word "chosen" occurs 123 times in 119 verses in the KJV.

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The word "elect" occurs 17 times in 17 verses in the KJV.

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Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

Isaiah 45:4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.

I samuel 65:22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect/ from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Mark 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

1 Timothy 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

2 John 1:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;

2 John 1:13 The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.
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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
 Quoting: Achduke7


The elect are the chosen. The faithful believers. The ones given to the Son by the Father. The ones that are signed and sealed and will be delivered because it was decided to be so before anything existed. The ones He died for on the cross.
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Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

So do you think they are the 2 Witnesses, 144K, All believers, Those taken up in the rapture, Tribulation Saints, etc. ?
 Quoting: Achduke7


All the believers or to say all those who will ever believe have believed and I don't believe the rapture is scriptural personally. That didn't come about until the late 1800s with Scofield. I believe that to be a gross misinterpretation that grew under the very recent fundamental dispensationalism we see.
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Wrong. The same scripture that proves rapture have been in the Bible since the beginning





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