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A masked hooded thug leaps over the counter into the cashiers space, thats what he deserved, too fucking bad for him he was fucking stupid ass.
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The kid was attempting petty theft, not armed robbery. This was not something that required deadly force. The clerk is gonna be in trouble with the law, and with the kid's family.
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Those guys robbing the place are probably Asian anyway... carry on ...


Middle of chinatown . Doubt its white guys. Will probably start an asian mafia turf war.

My care has gone.... asian do unto asians as asians do.
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Hey Bone, you've made your stance very clear, but what would you done? I'm not being snarky.

Stopped and called the social worker? (Okay, that was snark)

Seriously, how would you have handled that situation?
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I would have stopped the country from becoming a pile of shit 40 plus years ago.
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Where'd you park the Delorean? Let's fucking go!
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Its right around the corner.
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I don't THINK he was but I don't care , either. I don't KNOW what he was thinking.


The meth head got aggressive and he is "deactivated".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


It took 8 seconds from the time he jumped over the counter until the time he said "I'm dead." The frightened shop owner only had a few seconds to decide to defend himself. He had no idea if the criminals had weapons or not. I'm sure he assumed they did. There were 3 of them. The dead one had something in his hand and had on a backpack.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


he was fkn defending property and not himself. The guy never made one move towards him or threatened him.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are so self righteous. The truth is none of will know how we would react had we been in the same position. Maybe he has been robbed and threatened before so this time he was ready. He felt his life was in danger. He did what he thought he had to do. THEIR actions caused the shop owner to react to them in a split second. Had they not tried to rob the place the thief would still be alive.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


Once the thief came behind the counter, anything goes.
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more to the story this was a second robbery by them

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Has nothing to do with supremacy. Its about national security and a common way of life as intended by men that built the nation.
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Our founders shot looters all the time.
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yes but they worked hard to get rid of the wild west.
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By killing the bad guys.
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It was a box of tasty chinese bubble gum bro... is that worth a stabbing?

He probably thought ... damn there is that kick ass chinese yum chum chew and went for it.
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more to the story this was a second robbery by them

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This article is much more clear on what happened. The kid that jumped the counter may still be alive.
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Now, why were the internment camps a bad idea?

With the limited information available from this clip, I don’t see a deadly threat to the shop “owner”.

2nd degree.
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I’m white the robber looks white no diks given by me . Don’t steel this is the difference with blaks and whites they stick up for them , I want criminals to die no matter the colour
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It took 8 seconds from the time he jumped over the counter until the time he said "I'm dead." The frightened shop owner only had a few seconds to decide to defend himself. He had no idea if the criminals had weapons or not. I'm sure he assumed they did. There were 3 of them. The dead one had something in his hand and had on a backpack.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


he was fkn defending property and not himself. The guy never made one move towards him or threatened him.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are so self righteous. The truth is none of will know how we would react had we been in the same position. Maybe he has been robbed and threatened before so this time he was ready. He felt his life was in danger. He did what he thought he had to do. THEIR actions caused the shop owner to react to them in a split second. Had they not tried to rob the place the thief would still be alive.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


Once the thief came behind the counter, anything goes.
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Thats like saying " when you cut me off in traffic anything goes ... "
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The kid was attempting petty theft, not armed robbery. This was not something that required deadly force. The clerk is gonna be in trouble with the law, and with the kid's family.
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Yeah but the kid will have holes to remember it by.
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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801


I vehemently disagree with you. The perp came over the counter into his space, and he had no way to be assured that the perp was not going to murder or injure him. The totality of the event is horrible. One criminal died a violent death, and the shopkeeper is severely traumatized by being forced into killing another just to protect himself while backed into a corner. But that horrible set of events was put into motion by the criminal actions of those two criminals. The guy who came over the counter got a horrible outcome. But it was either him or the shopkeeper. Again, the shopkeeper has no way of assessing in that split second, that the criminal is not intending to injure or kill him.
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he was fkn defending property and not himself. The guy never made one move towards him or threatened him.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are so self righteous. The truth is none of will know how we would react had we been in the same position. Maybe he has been robbed and threatened before so this time he was ready. He felt his life was in danger. He did what he thought he had to do. THEIR actions caused the shop owner to react to them in a split second. Had they not tried to rob the place the thief would still be alive.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


Once the thief came behind the counter, anything goes.
 Quoting: tiger1


Thats like saying " when you cut me off in traffic anything goes ... "
 Quoting: BoneTrout


With advances in technology, fairly soon, the world will no longer demand knuckle-draggers and incompetents for it’s physical labor force. Which will mean erasure for most of the south and most 3rd worlders.
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17 year old stupid kid loses his life, look he had his hands up, and they were empty.

The more I look the more I am leaning to "Crime of Opportunity"

The store clerk probably played and replayed that reaction over and over until he was presented the opportunity to carry out the SLAUGHTER.

Chinese are brutal, human life has no worth.


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Those things can be replaced but a life can not.This is a catch 22.
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That is why the clerk was justified in eliminating the threat.

In a democrat state he goes to jail. In a Republican state his right to defend himself and his property is secure.

This is why you can't run a mercantile business for the public in a democrat state. They will all disappear or all merch will be behind locks.
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NY times has a better article explaining what happened.

"Las Vegas vape store owner defends himself by using a knife to repeatedly stab would-be robber

A Las Vegas vape store owner repeatedly stabbed a crook who frightened him by jumping over his counter during a botched robbery, according to video and the worker’s account of the incident.

Video footage showed the brazen broad-daylight heist on Wednesday, in which Johnny Nguyen, owner of Smokestrom Smoke Shop, stabbed the unidentified assailant at least seven times before the robber yelled, “I’m dead” and fell to the ground.

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officials told The Post that cops responded Wednesday afternoon to a robbery incident at the vape business but would not release further details.

“I was scared for my life,” Nguyen told The Post on Friday. “When they came in, one of them had a bag in front of him like he had a firearm or something. I didn’t have much time to think. I grabbed my knife right next to the register.”

Nguyen, 22, said it was around 3:25 p.m. on Wednesday when two men wearing black ski masks entered his shop while another stood by the door. Video footage showed Nguyen asking the two suspects why they were wearing the ski masks.

When Nguyen asked them to leave, one of the suspects grabbed the tip jar.

Johnny Nguyen, the owner of Smokestrom Smoke Shop in Las Vegas, stopped an attempted robbery at his store by stabbing the suspect.

Johnny Nguyen, the owner of Smokestrom Smoke Shop in Las Vegas, stopped an attempted robbery at his store by stabbing the suspect.
Johnny Nguyen

“I asked them first nicely to leave but the guy took my tip jar, which was fine,” Nguyen said. “When they came back and tried to take some more, that’s when it escalated.”

Surveillance footage showed one of the suspects jump over the counter and try to grab some products off the shelf. Fearing for his life, Nguyen said he grabbed his knife with a three-inch blade and stabbed the assailant seven times.

“Stop, please! I’m dead! I’m dead,” the would-be robber said as he collapsed to the ground.

Nguyen said he was scared for his life when one of the suspects went behind his counter.
Nguyen said he was scared for his life when one of the suspects went behind his counter.
Johnny Nguyen

“I remember him saying, ‘Please don’t let me die,'” Nguyen said. “He said he was sorry. By that point, he took off his mask himself. I was trying to get on the phone with the police when he was trying to talk to me. I just ran and wanted to make sure the police and ambulance would get here on time.”


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The kid may not have died.
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You are so self righteous. The truth is none of will know how we would react had we been in the same position. Maybe he has been robbed and threatened before so this time he was ready. He felt his life was in danger. He did what he thought he had to do. THEIR actions caused the shop owner to react to them in a split second. Had they not tried to rob the place the thief would still be alive.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


Once the thief came behind the counter, anything goes.
 Quoting: tiger1


Thats like saying " when you cut me off in traffic anything goes ... "
 Quoting: BoneTrout


With advances in technology, fairly soon, the world will no longer demand knuckle-draggers and incompetents for it’s physical labor force. Which will mean erasure for most of the south and most 3rd worlders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83970039


world wont last that much longer. The grand plan is flawed severely and unseen as of yet.
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I'm now wondering if the store clerk may have saved the guy's life. (If he is still alive as reported)

That neck stab could have been fatal, and it would take several minutes for EMS to arrive.

Just a thought that maybe he did something life-saving for the guy.
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You have the UNalienable Right to defend yourself
from potential mortal harm, once that thug charged behind the store counter, you have to assume that your life is in mortal danger. The killing is 100% justified.

Moral of the story is...don't try and steal or hurt others or you'll get what you deserve..

Better yet, that thug will NEVER threaten any innocent person again!
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That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
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NO! That was not cold blood. That was the heat of the moment forced on the shopkeeper by a duo of criminals, with the dead one quickly forcing the issue on the shopkeeper, giving no time to consider all the things we consider while watching the video over and over. The shopkeeper did not have the overall view we have in the video. While he was turned toward the first criminal, the second one pinned him behind the counter, taking him totally by surprise. There was not time or perspective to consider all the things we can consider after the fact, watching the video.
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Looking at the beginning of the video you can see the clerk looking to his right at someone off screen. You can see he was preparing to defend himself from the 3rd perp who had already jumped the counter to his right in the area of the 2nd perp who was leaning over the counter getting cash.

In other words when the stabbed perp jumped the counter he effectively had the clerk trapped in a corner between two other bad guys with himself blocking the clerks way of escape.

The “knife” looks like a box cutter that you would expect to find in that kind of place which is a tool for opening wholesale boxes and that stupid overkill Chinese plastic packaging that is impossible to open without a blade…and have been banned from airplanes since 2002.
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17 year old stupid kid loses his life, look he had his hands up, and they were empty.

The more I look the more I am leaning to "Crime of Opportunity"

The store clerk probably played and replayed that reaction over and over until he was presented the opportunity to carry out the SLAUGHTER.

Chinese are brutal, human life has no worth.


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 Quoting: Loup Garou


yep that says it all... capital murder.


Is what it is. Asians get no free kill card.

COLD BLOODED MURDER>>>>>>>

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That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
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Uh-huh and the host ginsued the shit out of the dine and dasher.
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17 year old stupid kid loses his life, look he had his hands up, and they were empty.

The more I look the more I am leaning to "Crime of Opportunity"

The store clerk probably played and replayed that reaction over and over until he was presented the opportunity to carry out the SLAUGHTER.

Chinese are brutal, human life has no worth.


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 Quoting: Loup Garou


yep that says it all... capital murder.


Is what it is. Asians get no free kill card.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


Kyle Rittenhouse slotted 3 people for far less, I think my countertop asian will be just fine.
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never will enjoy killing, your fault, their fault or nobodies fault.

it's a dog eat dog world to be sure

have faced what could have been construed as deadly attacks against me twice

both times I could have put a quick end to the hostilities but instead tried to de-escalate till their was no other choice other than kill or be killed.

the first time the gang that attacked scattered when they saw the .45 so danger averted

the second time the guy's wife calmed him down long enough for me to escape. days later the guy saw me on the street and came over to apologize for acting like an asshole and to say that he was told that I was armed and that he deeply appreciated the fact that I let him live. we are somewhat good acquaintances now.

maybe I'm just lucky, I really don't know

what I do know is that for me causing death is the option of last resort

no haha's
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This is more common than TPTB want us to know. There are actually many more lives saved by defensive use of firearms than there are firearms deaths.

I have been in your shoes. Drew a weapon 3 times in my life. No shots fired. No police report. No lives lost.

Even bad guys don't want to get shot.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


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Wait until they start shooting from the roof tops...I support the Ines in the roof tops btw
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Hate crime. MANY California Asians hate “blacks”. Pretend to be naive, all you want. Shot a girl in the 90s in the head over juice. If they ever invade militarily, I’m team America.
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he was fkn defending property and not himself. The guy never made one move towards him or threatened him.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are so self righteous. The truth is none of will know how we would react had we been in the same position. Maybe he has been robbed and threatened before so this time he was ready. He felt his life was in danger. He did what he thought he had to do. THEIR actions caused the shop owner to react to them in a split second. Had they not tried to rob the place the thief would still be alive.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


Once the thief came behind the counter, anything goes.
 Quoting: tiger1


Thats like saying " when you cut me off in traffic anything goes ... "
 Quoting: BoneTrout


Stay in your lane, then and don't drive like a douche.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I would say prison time for the Asia guy. The thief wasn't attacking him, he didn't need to stabbed him multiple time or at all.
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17 year old stupid kid loses his life, look he had his hands up, and they were empty.

The more I look the more I am leaning to "Crime of Opportunity"

The store clerk probably played and replayed that reaction over and over until he was presented the opportunity to carry out the SLAUGHTER.

Chinese are brutal, human life has no worth.


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 Quoting: Loup Garou


yep that says it all... capital murder.


Is what it is. Asians get no free kill card.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


Kyle Rittenhouse slotted 3 people for far less, I think my countertop asian will be just fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81288050



Far less?!?! Are you serious?!!!?! You're either a democrat, retarded or blind.

Going with all of the above.





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