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A portrait painting of a girl (Updated 2/18)

 
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Is the nose any better?

(Before/After)

https://imgur.com/a/uzf8r77

 Quoting: BFD


At the risk of being thrown off the thread, I prefer the before.

ETA: Now that I look again, it's the before shading I prefer.
 Quoting: Avenger1


Hmmm... There was definitely more contrast in the handling before, and that usually has an impact on initial perceptions... but at the sacrifice of that initial "punch" I hope I've provided more considerate gradations and drawing.

I think the last update I posted before this one looks very unfinished and goofy, to be honest.

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Is the nose any better?

(Before/After)

https://imgur.com/a/uzf8r77

 Quoting: BFD


At the risk of being thrown off the thread, I prefer the before.

ETA: Now that I look again, it's the before shading I prefer.
 Quoting: Avenger1


Nose seems thinner and less broad.


Still way better than anything I could do.

With the eyes I like the on right looking at pic seems more alive , other eye seems dark.
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The nice thing about eyes, though... is they are little forms that can be repainted in sections... unlike a big, continuous form like a cheek.

It's much less surface area with convenient start and stop points for repainting.
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At this stage if the eyes are slightly off the first time. It takes numerous times moving the lines millimeters just to get the perfect alignment and the correct size.

It can be done, but it can become frustrating, and you over work the eyes.

I found if I get the eyes perfect first then everything else follows.

That is what makes a difference in portraits, most people cannot get it perfect, maybe staring to long at image, maybe the artist eyes are crooked. Definitely a challenge, that is why I always choose portraits.

Fortunately, my ability came as a gift and my first portraits came with great ease and no training needed. But I have little knowledge in painting technique, never had a problem with any mediums either.

Looks much better. good job at not becoming frustrated, that is might hardest thing to deal with.
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Looks like a woman i once woke up next to after a night on the Booze.

Good painting though OP.

Although the subject matter is no Oil Painting.

I hope to fuck its not your wife....or a family member.... if yes,i am sorry.

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Wow something of true talent posted on here for once
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Looks like it fell off the top of an ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down with its face. bubbleswtf
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The nice thing about eyes, though... is they are little forms that can be repainted in sections... unlike a big, continuous form like a cheek.

It's much less surface area with convenient start and stop points for repainting.
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At this stage if the eyes are slightly off the first time. It takes numerous times moving the lines millimeters just to get the perfect alignment and the correct size.

It can be done, but it can become frustrating, and you over work the eyes.

I found if I get the eyes perfect first then everything else follows.

That is what makes a difference in portraits, most people cannot get it perfect, maybe staring to long at image, maybe the artist eyes are crooked. Definitely a challenge, that is why I always choose portraits.

Fortunately, my ability came as a gift and my first portraits came with great ease and no training needed. But I have little knowledge in painting technique, never had a problem with any mediums either.

Looks much better. good job at not becoming frustrated, that is might hardest thing to deal with.
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Oh yeah, it's not about painting, it's about controlling my mind... more than anything.
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Is the nose any better?

(Before/After)

https://imgur.com/a/uzf8r77

 Quoting: BFD


The right one (to me) is more attractive. Doesnt make it better.

This is Fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: A portrait painting of a girl (Updated 2/18)
Is the nose any better?

(Before/After)

https://imgur.com/a/uzf8r77

 Quoting: BFD


The right one (to me) is more attractive. Doesnt make it better.

This is Fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
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And thank you for taking the time to chime in.

hf
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Man If she's single she'll stay that way
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Man If she's single she'll stay that way
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Lol
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Absolutely fantastic work and interesting style - you just don’t see many current artists taking this approach-you have a true talent. I am an artist and I grew up in a family of artists; I’m still blown away by portraits and the artist who produce them. This is lovely (and I do like the shaping of the nose, but given your style -it lends itself to really any type). Great work and thank you for sharing.

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Re: A portrait painting of a girl (Updated 2/18)
her left eye, outside corner, is angled upward, her right corner of her left eye looks to be in the right position.

She should have more outline of her right corner of mouth. right corner of mouth seems nonexistence. maybe an almost unnoticeable dimple should be added.

other than that, looks much better.
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Re: A portrait painting of a girl (Updated 2/18)
her left eye, outside corner, is angled upward, her right corner of her left eye looks to be in the right position.

She should have more outline of her right corner of mouth. right corner of mouth seems nonexistence. maybe an almost unnoticeable dimple should be added.

other than that, looks much better.
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Thanks a lot... so you aren't talking about picture-left or right, you mean "her" left or right?

Sorry, it's an easy thing to misunderstand so I want to be clear.
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yes, her right eye looks in perfect position.

did you start the right eye first and do her left eye second?

Alway the first eye ends up in the right position, matching the second eye with the first one is a pin in the ass.
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Re: A portrait painting of a girl (Updated 2/18)
her left eye, outside corner, is angled upward, her right corner of her left eye looks to be in the right position.

She should have more outline of her right corner of mouth. right corner of mouth seems nonexistence. maybe an almost unnoticeable dimple should be added.

other than that, looks much better.
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Thanks a lot... so you aren't talking about picture-left or right, you mean "her" left or right?

Sorry, it's an easy thing to misunderstand so I want to be clear.
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yes i always use "her" left or right to describe
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yes, her right eye looks in perfect position.

did you start the right eye first and do her left eye second?

Alway the first eye ends up in the right position, matching the second eye with the first one is a pin in the ass.
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I started with the picture-right eye and worked outwards from there.
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Looking better!
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I love and admire your work, BFD, but you’re ASKING, so here goes:

The eyes are way off. They don’t match.

Notice the way the right eye has an almond shape that comes to a point close to the nose. Whereas, the inside of the left eye is more rounded and doesn’t have the same almond shape as the right eye.

Also:

Look closely at the outer eyelid of the left eye. It clearly extends past the white of the eye. Whereas, the outer lid of the right eye ends sharply at the end of the white.

Just need to clean those up a little, and the eyes will match.

Nonetheless, outstanding work as always.

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Cool... and thanks.

Which eye do you favor, if you had to pick one?

Or which one bothers you most?
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I’m a fan of almond shaped eyes on a woman, so I favor the right eye.

It also has a more realistic look to it. If you cover half her face and swap back and forth, comparing the left side to the right side, it’s immediately obvious the right eye looks more real. I think part of the reason is there is a small reflection of light in the upper left of the pupil. Whereas, the left eye is more …. “dull”, if you’ll excuse the description.
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The slope of her right eyelash bothers me, because it looks like it's the same slope on both eyes, when the slope should be the same on the outer sides.

I.E. The slope on the outer right eye matches the slope on the inner left eye.
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I love and admire your work, BFD, but you’re ASKING, so here goes:

The eyes are way off. They don’t match.

Notice the way the right eye has an almond shape that comes to a point close to the nose. Whereas, the inside of the left eye is more rounded and doesn’t have the same almond shape as the right eye.

Also:

Look closely at the outer eyelid of the left eye. It clearly extends past the white of the eye. Whereas, the outer lid of the right eye ends sharply at the end of the white.

Just need to clean those up a little, and the eyes will match.

Nonetheless, outstanding work as always.

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Cool... and thanks.

Which eye do you favor, if you had to pick one?

Or which one bothers you most?
 Quoting: BFD


I’m a fan of almond shaped eyes on a woman, so I favor the right eye.

It also has a more realistic look to it. If you cover half her face and swap back and forth, comparing the left side to the right side, it’s immediately obvious the right eye looks more real. I think part of the reason is there is a small reflection of light in the upper left of the pupil. Whereas, the left eye is more …. “dull”, if you’ll excuse the description.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45278622


Amazing... I was thinking the same thing, that the left eye, even though, in nature, it didn't receive the reflection of the light source... looks weird without it.

A very astute observation.
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The slope of her right eyelash bothers me, because it looks like it's the same slope on both eyes, when the slope should be the same on the outer sides.

I.E. The slope on the outer right eye matches the slope on the inner left eye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79861195


Haha... you mean the echo of that one diagonal?

I think I feel exactly what you are saying.

It looks a bit contrived or repetitive... visually.

I can see that.

Another highly informed piece of advice.

cheers
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I love and admire your work, BFD, but you’re ASKING, so here goes:

The eyes are way off. They don’t match.

Notice the way the right eye has an almond shape that comes to a point close to the nose. Whereas, the inside of the left eye is more rounded and doesn’t have the same almond shape as the right eye.

Also:

Look closely at the outer eyelid of the left eye. It clearly extends past the white of the eye. Whereas, the outer lid of the right eye ends sharply at the end of the white.

Just need to clean those up a little, and the eyes will match.

Nonetheless, outstanding work as always.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45214010


Cool... and thanks.

Which eye do you favor, if you had to pick one?

Or which one bothers you most?
 Quoting: BFD


I’m a fan of almond shaped eyes on a woman, so I favor the right eye.

It also has a more realistic look to it. If you cover half her face and swap back and forth, comparing the left side to the right side, it’s immediately obvious the right eye looks more real. I think part of the reason is there is a small reflection of light in the upper left of the pupil. Whereas, the left eye is more …. “dull”, if you’ll excuse the description.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45278622


Amazing... I was thinking the same thing, that the left eye, even though, in nature, it didn't receive the reflection of the light source... looks weird without it.

A very astute observation.
 Quoting: BFD


Also: the left eye seems more “flat” to me…. 2-dimensional. The right eye has a more realistic 3-D curve to it.

The right eye is perfect, bro. Don’t change anything about it. Just have to get that left eye to match!
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I don't know much about art, but it looks pretty good to me
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I definitely worked pretty hard to learn how to do it, but all glory is God's.
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Did you take any art classes? Or are you self taught?
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I started painting around 16 and then got brief bits of formal training from some of he best schools and artists here and there.

Then, in 2010, I founded a school with one of the best students from the best school in the world, and she taught me drawing.

As far as painting goes, I pretty much taught that to myself... but it always came naturally on a paint-handling level.

These were the last two things I painted while being self-taught without training.

I think I was 21 at the time.

https://imgur.com/a/ZfXy66E


https://imgur.com/a/rjuxfwT

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Just going page by page, here, watching for progress on the nose and see these which are amazing! That bowl of sugar is incredible!!! I had no idea you were a talented painter.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

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beautiful. the nose is great now. I was going to comment earlier that the highlight at the part in her hair was a little abrupt, but you fixed it:) great flesh, very da vinci-esk. cant wait for you to tackle Caravaggio;)
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beautiful. the nose is great now. I was going to comment earlier that the highlight at the part in her hair was a little abrupt, but you fixed it:) great flesh, very da vinci-esk. cant wait for you to tackle Caravaggio;)
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Lol thank God... Music to my ears because that nose situation was wearing on me lol.

There's a lot of work ahead but it's one foot in front of the other, you know?
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beautiful. the nose is great now. I was going to comment earlier that the highlight at the part in her hair was a little abrupt, but you fixed it:) great flesh, very da vinci-esk. cant wait for you to tackle Caravaggio;)
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I tried replying to you before, but quite a few replies seem to have been nuked from the thread.

Regardless, thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Recognize her?

https://imgur.com/JWOF6ns

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In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Light isn’t entering the iris evenly

I’m assuming you’re using oils? This would be a very difficult portrait to finish properly if you aren’t using oils.





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