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Wayne_Ker
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1186383 Canada 12/30/2010 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what I don't understand and maybe someone could help me sort it out: Quoting: SaltWaterTaffyTo me, if someone wants to be really hurt or really scared mentally or physically, it's is because they are in some kind of emotional or psychological pain. The same for someone who wants to injure or humiliate someone else. I'm probably wrong on this very first assumption - I'm not a psychologist - but it seems like even having these desires, let alone acting on them, is a way of dealing with deep psychological issues. Is giving in to that helpful? It is healing or is it just an expression of this pain that has no other outlet? I don't see how it can be healing or affirming. It seems like it would compound the pain. Thanks. Sounds pretty accurate. The desire to be humiliated is a disorder, and indicative of deep emotional scars. To indulge such a person is to contribute to the problem, when rectifying is needed. I don't know taff, I'm no psychologhist either, but what you say rings true. |
Stealth521
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Tali
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 564160 United States 12/30/2010 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what I don't understand and maybe someone could help me sort it out: Quoting: SaltWaterTaffyTo me, if someone wants to be really hurt or really scared mentally or physically, it's is because they are in some kind of emotional or psychological pain. The same for someone who wants to injure or humiliate someone else. I'm probably wrong on this very first assumption - I'm not a psychologist - but it seems like even having these desires, let alone acting on them, is a way of dealing with deep psychological issues. Is giving in to that helpful? It is healing or is it just an expression of this pain that has no other outlet? I don't see how it can be healing or affirming. It seems like it would compound the pain. Thanks. You are sane and normal. You don't belong here. |
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JF Priest
User ID: 1069469 United States 12/30/2010 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feminism is about equality and freedom. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeySorry Nikki..I disagree with you on this... Feminism is about breaking up the Family so the Govt can take over... Google is your friend Last Edited by JF Priest on 12/30/2010 05:35 PM It Only Hurts If You Care... |
Sandi_T
User ID: 873093 United States 12/30/2010 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: Go hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Sweetness
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Romulus
User ID: 1196523 United States 12/30/2010 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: TaliGo hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... i can do that too dahlin... oh yeah? can you drive for three hours and not ask for directions when lost? huh? or leave the toilet seat up? huh? well? or or...wipe greasy hands all over a nice clean bath towel? I DIDNT THINK SO!! tough girl.... |
Tali
User ID: 1018633 United States 12/30/2010 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: Sandi_TGo hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. Teeeheeeeheee Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Wayne_Ker
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Sandi_T
User ID: 873093 United States 12/30/2010 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what I don't understand and maybe someone could help me sort it out: Quoting: SaltWaterTaffyTo me, if someone wants to be really hurt or really scared mentally or physically, it's is because they are in some kind of emotional or psychological pain. The same for someone who wants to injure or humiliate someone else. I'm probably wrong on this very first assumption - I'm not a psychologist - but it seems like even having these desires, let alone acting on them, is a way of dealing with deep psychological issues. Is giving in to that helpful? It is healing or is it just an expression of this pain that has no other outlet? I don't see how it can be healing or affirming. It seems like it would compound the pain. Thanks. It is about punishment. Self punishment and punishment of others. That's the subconscious drive behind it. A woman who feels like women are bad, or that she is bad, or who was abused and feels like it was her fault (she didn't fight it, or was told she somehow instigated it) will likely end up in such a "lifestyle." A man who was abused or who is/was promiscuous can end up in this kind of lifestyle, punishing women for not being "faithful," because he is unable to realize that it is indeed himself who is incapable of fidelity. He recognizes that someone must be punished, so he lashes out. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Nikki_LaVey
User ID: 1120752 United States 12/30/2010 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't a known Domme. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051300Most pro Dommes/Dominas belong to certain associations and/or clubs their reputations are known. Fuck off. You have no Honour. Dear I use to feel just like you about these things. The first submissive I met I wanted so much to rescue her. It took me a long time to understand this type of scene or why people wanted to be treated like that. Although I avoid the real extreme people I do get it now. She has been with this guy for 20 years. She doesn't know how to get out, I feel sorry for her. Like a puppy that has been beat and kicked but, keeps coming back. She doesn't want or need to get out. I know you don't understand that and I didn't for a long time. There are far more submissives in this world that Dominates. She doesn't want or need to get out. I know you don't understand that and I didn't for a long time. There are far more submissives in this world that Dominates. True. There are many people who for whatever reasons are unable to think thru the available choices they could make and the consequences for them AND their immediate circle which may include a spouse and children. They also have had fantasies all their lives and there are very few people who have NOT had fantasies. Some people go to a DOMME just for a thrill and to try to reach the heights of titillation and keep their spiritual issues to themselves. Othere NEED a mature guide to help them assess their lives and how to determine the best choices. They develop a parent/child relationship but when not in session are just good friends A well experienced Domme of Dom will draw out the stifled emotional issues and work them thru in the submission actions. The level of suffering is ALWAYS agreed on prior to play and the boundaries for both are set. Some dont even want any pain, just symbolism. Some do want pain and for those it is a personal trial each time to test their OWN boundaries. Some TOPS will not go into severe pain, others will only if they know the submissive well and the psychological state of that sub. YES there are those who do not abide by the RULE of BDSM-D/s and those are dangerous to get involved with The RULE is SAFE,SANE,CONSENSUAL. All my subs have to think of their fav fantasy and what punishments are appropriate, write it all down and bring a copy to Me. I read it back to that one and consent is reached as to the punishments and levels of pain before we proceed. A safe word is offered. The last few years most refuse any safe word, part of their personal testing. As an experienced TOP I keep a close eye on muscle movements perspiration, breathing , so when a sub is trying to go deeper and I think its far enough I can gracefully stop without embarrassing it. Always there is a Q&A period to make sure what was felt, and direction we went and where it feels it needs to go next time. This is of great benefit to BOTH the TOP and the bottom Any other play can be abuse. It is up to BOTH players to be cautious about who we play with. In 20 years I have never had a bad actor as a sub. Good judgement and vetting works just fine. For those who know little or nothing about the lifestyle to be passing judgement is silly and intolerant We dont tell you how to have fun with your GF BF or spouse so why must you tell us how to play with consenting partners? . Very well put and I can tell your the real deal. Very well put and I can tell your the real deal. Thanks Niki somehow I get to say that about once a year You have walked the walk also, ;) s .. I have been around my share of unique people both D & s and have done some things as a Domina for subs that were friends. I have had requests from subs that I wouldn't do. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Tali
User ID: 1018633 United States 12/30/2010 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: RomulusGo hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... i can do that too dahlin... oh yeah? can you drive for three hours and not ask for directions when lost? huh? or leave the toilet seat up? huh? well? or or...wipe greasy hands all over a nice clean bath towel? I DIDNT THINK SO!! tough girl.... Now now now...actually I can drive all over the valley here and not get lost...know why? its all grid, North, East South West, Avenues are on the west side, Streets on the East... If I were in another city though....I would be asking for directions =) Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
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User ID: 769770 Puerto Rico 12/30/2010 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: Sandi_TGo hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. Note: Never goin to Sandi_Torture's house,.... Theories: Misconceptions awaiting confirmation of incorrectness. Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!! :nfrnl1111: |
Tali
User ID: 1018633 United States 12/30/2010 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: TaliGo hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... i can do that too dahlin... oh yeah? can you drive for three hours and not ask for directions when lost? huh? or leave the toilet seat up? huh? well? or or...wipe greasy hands all over a nice clean bath towel? I DIDNT THINK SO!! tough girl.... Now now now...actually I can drive all over the valley here and not get lost...know why? its all grid, North, East South West, Avenues are on the west side, Streets on the East... If I were in another city though....I would be asking for directions =) AND ya know what? THATS A-OKAY!!! ;) Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Sandi_T
User ID: 873093 United States 12/30/2010 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: [nƒ³RnªL] Go hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. Note: Never goin to Sandi_Torture's house,.... Why not? Isn't that all men are good for? No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Nikki_LaVey
User ID: 1120752 United States 12/30/2010 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: [nƒ³RnªL] Go hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. Note: Never goin to Sandi_Torture's house,.... How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
J-Rico
User ID: 1116423 United States 12/30/2010 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: Sandi_T[nƒ³RnªL] Go hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. Note: Never goin to Sandi_Torture's house,.... Why not? Isn't that all men are good for? And grilling. Everyone dies, but not everyone lives. :moranrico::Rico::moranrico: |
Tali
User ID: 1018633 United States 12/30/2010 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [nƒ³RnªL] Quoting: J-Rico[nƒ³RnªL] Go hunt me some deer MAN!!! I'll have deer eatin in the front yard (had 4 turkeys few days ago) when ya ready,.... Now bout makin me a pie,.... After the new house is built, the barn is in, and the field is plowed. Don't forget to milk the cows. Note: Never goin to Sandi_Torture's house,.... Why not? Isn't that all men are good for? And grilling. Yes! Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
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User ID: 769770 Puerto Rico 12/30/2010 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | **Sandi_Torture** = worktard,.... Last Edited by ][nƒ³RnªL on 12/30/2010 06:01 PM Theories: Misconceptions awaiting confirmation of incorrectness. Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!! :nfrnl1111: |
D's Pet
(OP) User ID: 1211901 United States 12/30/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have never been to the Munches or play parties Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051300to associate with many people who are in various levels of the life style you have not been exposed to the common words usage and rules of conduct understandable ask your Dom if he will allow you to read some chat rooms where subs gather and discuss their needs you will find you are quite normal and many adhere to a specified pattern of behavior subs chatting with subs by the rules of BDSM I cannot tell you to do this as that would be an insult to your TOP but I have suggested He allow you to visit sub chats and find that subs wish to be only an "it" and you can learn some new ways to please your TOP :D I sat through a couple of MAsT meetings because he thought it would help me, but I'm not like those people. As for munches or play parties, that's probably not in the cards because he has another he takes to clubs and parties. That's just not my role in his life. As for finding new ways to please him, that's not my job. He'll tell me what he wants. He's the type who would think that doing that kind of thing would make me more a presumptuous twat than a good wife. The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich. ~P. J. O'Rourke |
D's Pet
(OP) User ID: 1211901 United States 12/30/2010 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich. Quoting: TaliI'm kinda disappointed in AC's today. Speaking of, I have chicken soup to get started. I finally broke down and admitted that I have a cold. Boil the bones...something in the marrow helps your immune system... Darn. I already had stock I had made before in the freezer, so I just chopped up the meat and veggies to brown and put in the stock. Add some noodles, and that's all I'm feeling like doing. The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich. ~P. J. O'Rourke |
Tali
User ID: 1018633 United States 12/30/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich. Quoting: D's PetI'm kinda disappointed in AC's today. Speaking of, I have chicken soup to get started. I finally broke down and admitted that I have a cold. Boil the bones...something in the marrow helps your immune system... Darn. I already had stock I had made before in the freezer, so I just chopped up the meat and veggies to brown and put in the stock. Add some noodles, and that's all I'm feeling like doing. I love chicken noodle soup from scratch ....yummy Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Nikki_LaVey
User ID: 1120752 United States 12/30/2010 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich. Quoting: TaliI'm kinda disappointed in AC's today. Speaking of, I have chicken soup to get started. I finally broke down and admitted that I have a cold. Boil the bones...something in the marrow helps your immune system... Darn. I already had stock I had made before in the freezer, so I just chopped up the meat and veggies to brown and put in the stock. Add some noodles, and that's all I'm feeling like doing. I love chicken noodle soup from scratch ....yummy I make it like the Amish do! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Tali
User ID: 1018633 United States 12/30/2010 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI'm kinda disappointed in AC's today. Speaking of, I have chicken soup to get started. I finally broke down and admitted that I have a cold. Boil the bones...something in the marrow helps your immune system... Darn. I already had stock I had made before in the freezer, so I just chopped up the meat and veggies to brown and put in the stock. Add some noodles, and that's all I'm feeling like doing. I love chicken noodle soup from scratch ....yummy I make it like the Amish do! You go out and kill your own chickens huh? Do you chop the heads off or swing them around by their necks... Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211908 Spain 12/30/2010 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just shocked no one came into this thread telling one of you ladies to go get them a sammich. Quoting: TaliI'm kinda disappointed in AC's today. Speaking of, I have chicken soup to get started. I finally broke down and admitted that I have a cold. Boil the bones...something in the marrow helps your immune system... Darn. I already had stock I had made before in the freezer, so I just chopped up the meat and veggies to brown and put in the stock. Add some noodles, and that's all I'm feeling like doing. I love chicken noodle soup from scratch ....yummy I make it like the Amish do! You go out and kill your own chickens huh? Do you chop the heads off or swing them around by their necks... having fun are we? |
D's Pet
(OP) User ID: 1211901 United States 12/30/2010 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ha ha ha Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051300I am sure you are but that "be grateful!" u kno. was a code message do visit a sub chat room you will have a really good time learning so many tips to make life more interesting for both of you ! make sure you ask His permission first :D . Oh. That's not a code I'm familiar with. As for the chat room thing, I'm not sure. I do have a support group kind of thing of about a dozen women with lives similar to mine I talk to frequently, and occassionally meet with one or two of them for lunch and conversation with people who understand. The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich. ~P. J. O'Rourke |