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Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.

 
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You can quote a part of the post, isn't it obvious?
Like that:

I don't know if I can ever portray what truley boggles
my mind, so please listen to what I have to say glp.

Through the endless gauntlet of hurricanes, near death
experiences, freak deletions of my posts, I will try
To provide GLP with a very important origins post...
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Circumstance has always dictated that this day is an unknown adventure of challenges to teach you about you. Ancient allegory : The temple must be built, beautified then destroyed before universal perfection is realized.

Perfection knows this cycle of destruction and
rebuilding of the temple, as the true rhythm of nature.
The temple is the wo-man, the whole unity, the Advaita.
Circumstance is banging on your door. It’s doing what it’s
always done. You never owned those things, the wife-husband-kids, the house boat,the client, the friends-family they were temporarily positioned around you
to help you with your learning.
Pain and suffering are the indicators
of when you are off-course. Don’t be tricked by the
illusionary!

Duality of free will and dictated circumstance. They are the same force. That force which is, that which has eyes to see.

Today is this magical mystery tour …………. You are the tourist.

Were all soon to expire one way or another, soon! Hang in there big fella this is all part of the programs.
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Barely dismissing or ridicule anyone. knowing these things and spoken in I and me isn't spiritual at all.

Just nudging other to our true origins straight from the horse mouth without TPTB lies.
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I think, as far as the Causal Beginning,
its more than a Human mind can truly understand while still in body.

That said, perhaps it's something like;

The Great Sentience, that just Is, decided that it could experience itself in an infinite amount of ways and then shared its very self in the creation of all things, so that in this dispersal of it self, it could have the ultimate journey.

:-)
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and no dangit, I dont mean the above in a creationist point of view.. /gah!

so no pokie pokie!
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Barely dismissing or ridicule anyone. knowing these things and spoken in I and me isn't spiritual at all.

Just nudging other to our true origins straight from the horse mouth without TPTB lies.
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Heyyy =( I am very spiritual.

I would use "we" but there are only maybe 20
people out there that are openly riding their
own bikes on the disprove primate evolution trail.
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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So you did read The Convoluted Universe?. hf
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Heretic 333, here is where I think it is..
yeah the apes did evolve, to a point, then Intervention occurred..

It seems to me after all these years of study that's actually a bit of an ad-hoc mix and match.


We know from Native American lore that there as a singular conscientiousness at the start, some called it EA (interesting to say the least)

We know we started as apes, its clear from the archaeological records.

We also know that Intervention happened, its what Darwin actually proved much to his chagrin with the missing link.

We know the Annunaki were here, over 4 cultures around the world literally carved that stuff in stone, repeatedly, and then again... and again

The Dogon(sp?) told us about the landing of them and passed it down for thousands and thousands of years.

Sitchin and others(yeah there are many who have reached the same conclusion, I mentioned this in an earlier post on this thread as a AC) did a good job of filling in so many of the holes of all of this and even more ( I dont want to write a book on it here, nor derail your thread, mate).

So yeah, its all of it, and IMO, thats the really good news.


We are all now privy to the story.
That means that we are all now privy to the responsibility of Growth, and, the burden of releasing our old programming as a WHOLE, on this planet at this time.

The bell has rung, recess is over folks.

My intention is to go forward in Brotherhood/Sisterhood/Humanhood.

We are here at the cusp, and we all feel it, we are starting to go past belief, into knowing, so that means no more past games and knee-jerk freakosis on each other. Its All of Us.

I yield the floor.
<ahem>

-Cheers!
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Great post, OP. What you've posted seems plausible me to be quite valid theories. One thing, though...I wish you'd said something about the human genome study...where they found we suddenly obtained all this extra genetic information about 250,000 years ago...in a side way shift. So, hey, well...all of a sudden, it's there. Well, how did THAT happen?

Any scientist worth his metal would not say any finding or theory is carved in stone. That's dogma, and science is not about dogma. And please..."We've read this all before" without any offer of evidence to the contrary is about as scientific as a church hymnal.
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Great post OP. The fact that you're attacked so viciously by the angry mob validates the truth you speak. Truth has a funny effect on brainwashed people. If you were just spouting off BS, you would see some BS flags hoisted and a few one liners. Not so in this case. Passionate responses all around. Thanks and take care.
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Ride the storm out brother.

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Great post, OP. What you've posted seems plausible me to be quite valid theories. One thing, though...I wish you'd said something about the human genome study...where they found we suddenly obtained all this extra genetic information about 250,000 years ago...in a side way shift. So, hey, well...all of a sudden, it's there. Well, how did THAT happen?

Any scientist worth his metal would not say any finding or theory is carved in stone. That's dogma, and science is not about dogma. And please..."We've read this all before" without any offer of evidence to the contrary is about as scientific as a church hymnal.
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For my part in this, the carving it in stone isnt what I said, its what the ancients actually did. The archaeological and artifactual record is there. Again, the Sumarian researchers and Scholars have been are documenting this now for decades, so yeah, its real science, which as the OP stated, is:

"The main purpose of science is to investigate the
unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated.
-Dr. Stephen Rorke"
so please..

as far as our highly spliced genome, that is a good deal of the whole point of this!

Interventionism.

They have found so many misnomer splices that belay the general 'flow' of natural development its amazing we can even walk.. LOL
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FFS, somebody sum this up.
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Another deluded gnostic thinks he's outwitted God... Ya know, the usual.
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So which of the three books you pick out as the "word of God"? You're the the one that's deluded for thinking God wrote your book.
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48 hour doom?.....

loss of powers?.....

clocks tickin'....

guess you can tick your own 'fail' box after a night or two then...

interesting broad synopsis though.....

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That wall of text requires and exorcism, and quickly
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Great post, OP. What you've posted seems plausible me to be quite valid theories. One thing, though...I wish you'd said something about the human genome study...where they found we suddenly obtained all this extra genetic information about 250,000 years ago...in a side way shift. So, hey, well...all of a sudden, it's there. Well, how did THAT happen?

Any scientist worth his metal would not say any finding or theory is carved in stone. That's dogma, and science is not about dogma. And please..."We've read this all before" without any offer of evidence to the contrary is about as scientific as a church hymnal.
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Good point. I had so much to cram in, what
I should have mentioned more so than Sumer,
was proof of intervention through Genetics.

I will provide you with as much as I can for
the time being.

Other than bringing in a Bigfoot dead or alive,
genetics are going to be the determining factor
for proof of extraterrestrial intervention.

Anthropologists always wondered when the common
split from our "ancestors" was. Basically, when
did we go from "down on all fours" to "upright
walking" Scientists figured it was in the 6-8
million years range. Boy did they want to know!
The geneticists finally said, Hey wait let
us take a crack at it! So they took the
mitochondrial DNA from every woman, from every
race creed and culture in the world. When the
results came back it wasn't 5 million years...

It wasnt 2..

or 1........

It was waaaaaaaaaaay off. The oldest of us DO
come from Africa 200-250 thousand years ago.

WE GENETICALLY DO NOT EXIST 300,000 YEARS AGO.

That made every anthropologist puke a little.

Most were probably glad they didn't claim an
exact year, or claim anything for that matter.
The "guilty until proven innocent" aspect of
science would have seriously decapitated one
of those guys if they made any exact claims
on when the split was.

Few were hesitant to even utter the subject,
a few theories in circulation about this today
is the whole "genetic bottleneck" approach,
which throws the idea out that 99% of the
"prehumans" died off and slowly but surely
grew via the arduous climb we all are taught
about today.

Recall that in 1996, geneticists discovered that
Neanderthals and humans did not share enough
of their mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) to have
any kind of biological relationship between the
two species. This was a huge jolt to mainstream
anthropologists, who were certain that humans
had to evolve directly from the Neanderthals.

Reluctantly, anthropologists shifted humanity’s
closest predecessor to either H. Erectus or H.
Ergaster (leaning toward Ergaster), but they
clung to the belief that humans must still have
some kind of biological link to Neanderthals.

I love this video.


I now give you a secret letter, sent anonymously
by a geneticist, sent anonymously due to his way
of life being jeopardized, and his reputation
ostracized.

I agree with your conclusions [that humans are genetically engineered] and will give you a few hints, if you wish [speaking] as a “DNA Deep Throat.” First, look up the huge discontinuities between humans and the various apes for: (1) Whole mitochondrial DNA; (2) genes for the Rh Factor; (3) and human Y chromosomes, among others.

Regarding #3, I refer you to K.D. Smith’s 1987 study titled “Repeated DNA sequences of the human Y chromosome.” It says “Most human Y chromosome sequences thus far examined do not have homologues [same relative position or structure] on the Y chromosomes of other primates.” Human female X chromosomes do look somewhat apelike, but not the male’s Y.

This means that if humans are a crossbred species, the cross had to be between a female ape-like creature [i.e, “creature of Earth”] and a male being from elsewhere.


Sincerely, DNA Deepthroat

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I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

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Great post, OP. What you've posted seems plausible me to be quite valid theories. One thing, though...I wish you'd said something about the human genome study...where they found we suddenly obtained all this extra genetic information about 250,000 years ago...in a side way shift. So, hey, well...all of a sudden, it's there. Well, how did THAT happen?

Any scientist worth his metal would not say any finding or theory is carved in stone. That's dogma, and science is not about dogma. And please..."We've read this all before" without any offer of evidence to the contrary is about as scientific as a church hymnal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20069012


For my part in this, the carving it in stone isnt what I said, its what the ancients actually did. The archaeological and artifactual record is there. Again, the Sumarian researchers and Scholars have been are documenting this now for decades, so yeah, its real science, which as the OP stated, is:

"The main purpose of science is to investigate the
unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated.
-Dr. Stephen Rorke"
so please..

as far as our highly spliced genome, that is a good deal of the whole point of this!

Interventionism.

They have found so many misnomer splices that belay the general 'flow' of natural development its amazing we can even walk.. LOL
 Quoting: Kii of Earth


EVERYONE!!

WATCH THIS GUY COMPLETELY SLAM GENETICS!!!!



He is a real life hero to me.

But yea Kii of Earth, for a species not even
300,000 years old, HOW THE HELL DO WE HAVE
FOUR THOUSAND GENETIC DISORDERS!!!
AND COUNTING!!!!

How did we evolve from apes who have 48
chromosomes.. with only a handful of disorders.

To a weak and rickety human with only 46!!
and nearly 5000... makes no sense.

Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 08/28/2012 03:52 AM
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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hfhfhf
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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EVERYONE!!

WATCH THIS GUY COMPLETELY SLAM GENETICS!!!!



He is a real life hero to me.

But yea Kii of Earth, for a species not even
300,000 years old, HOW THE HELL DO WE HAVE
FOUR THOUSAND GENETIC DISORDERS!!!
AND COUNTING!!!!

How did we evolve from apes who have 48
chromosomes.. with only a handful of disorders.

To a weak and rickety human with only 46!!
and nearly 5000... makes no sense.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Play the video from the beginning. There's a text:"(c)2010 Loyd Pye"
How is that possible? The video is uploaded on 13.04.2009?
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Thanks everyone for the Karma points!

I now have enough to pin a part II!!!

If anyone has any questions, or wishes to
challenge the notion that the "prehumans"
are the "pre hominoids" please speak up!

I am not an egotistical iconoclast! I wish
to learn as much as I can while this thread
is still chugging along!

Remember this is not about the Origins of
the Universe, or a thread to attack religion!

My higher power may not be the omnipotent
bearded man many others envision...

Regardless

How can one condone a program that gives
direction, purpose, and guidelines to
billions!
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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afropeace
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love3

Knowledge can shake the Earth...

and move the Suns...

hfhfhf
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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EVERYONE!!

WATCH THIS GUY COMPLETELY SLAM GENETICS!!!!



He is a real life hero to me.

But yea Kii of Earth, for a species not even
300,000 years old, HOW THE HELL DO WE HAVE
FOUR THOUSAND GENETIC DISORDERS!!!
AND COUNTING!!!!

How did we evolve from apes who have 48
chromosomes.. with only a handful of disorders.

To a weak and rickety human with only 46!!
and nearly 5000... makes no sense.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Play the video from the beginning. There's a text:"(c)2010 Loyd Pye"
How is that possible? The video is uploaded on 13.04.2009?
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Well it wasn't time travel bro.
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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Well it wasn't time travel bro.
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Probably. Still, what it is? What do you think?
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Ok ok ok I have a question. If we didn't come from molecules evolving and we came from aliens then WHO MADE the ALIENS?????? Ok now take this question and replace alien with the answer you gave to the last question. Repeat this with each answer you give. Somehow something must of happen to make the first life in the universe. Why not here on earth???
It is a lot easier to lie when you are the only one who knows the truth than it is to find the truth when all you know is lies.

Remember people the revolution starts with you.
Sorry my mistake.
Revolution starts with R.
Change begins with.....nope that begins with C
Hold on I am sure I will get this.
Progress begin....damn.

Oh I got it
Youthfulness begins with you, so do your part and be childish
And remember you can not spell awesome without ME.
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Who created the aliens that created us out of monkey dna? who created the creator? this will not ever be fully understood, until its too late. you'll either be worm food, or burning in he!! or hanging with the big guy in the sky. One thing that puzzles me about the summerians beliefs is the need for gold. If they are so much superior to us and so technologically advanced why the hell could't they come up with an easier way to mine gold? why didn't they genetically engineer a being more suitable for digging, seeing, and living underground in the gold mines? why didn't they just say fuck this we're moving to earth? too many holes in everyones theories/guesses.
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Ok ok ok I have a question. If we didn't come from molecules evolving and we came from aliens then WHO MADE the ALIENS?????? Ok now take this question and replace alien with the answer you gave to the last question. Repeat this with each answer you give. Somehow something must of happen to make the first life in the universe. Why not here on earth???
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


This thread is about disproving primate evolution.

Humans via Evolution...I can disprove. I also have
evidence on how what is truly the case.

This will be the 5th time I will answer this question.

If they are real, and if they did in fact develop
life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they?
And who created them? This leads to an endless
hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer
question: Who are their creators???

This brings up what is known as First Cause,
the starting place for all of everything—of life
and existence itself. No human actually knows
anything about it, and we probably never will.
I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists
certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced
by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to
pretend that they actually do know the answer.
Don’t believe either side. Religion and science
stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened
to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or
weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I
don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself
trying to discover what is actually knowable.
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.





GLP