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Why Women Have Totally Unrealistic Standards for Men, Dating, and Marriage

 
platzee

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If it’s has tits or tires....

You’re gonna have a problem with it.
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Been married for 30 years.

A lot of arguments started by my wife start with the phrase,

“Why can’t you just???”
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Like I said in another thread last week, I want to know where the hell all the good guys are!

I am the standard that a lot of these guys are looking for. I'm very attractive, excellent shape, very financially responsible, very loyal, no kids, and a good science education.

I can't find a damn guy that's good enough for me. What I mean by this is that if I were to hook up with said guy , my life would decline in the gutter. I've already got a good life, lovely home, nice little business where I'm not working all the time, and super good mental and physical health. These guys are freaking losers that I come across. and I'm not talking short, bald, and middle class , I'm talking freaking human disasters. Addictions, obese, mentally ill, financial disaster, baby mamas everywhere. so can one of you smart guys here tell me where all the good guys are?
 Quoting: Unicorn Woman 77759576


You brought up a good point I eluded to in an earlier comment.

I know two young women in the same fix. Raised with traditional values - they are drop dead beautiful. But don’t do Instagram, only wear mascara, don’t do any bar crawls, don’t think that going shopping or playing with makeup is something to do or a hobby. Don’t dress like a prostitute - not even on Halloween.

They actually sew, knit, draw, cook from scratch, do everything possible outdoors - hunt, fish, swim, bike, ride motorcycles, fix their cars, volunteer time, read real paper books the list goes on and on. And they are beautiful.

But they have repeated the same mantra - guys these days want sex and they barely know the guy, which isn’t normal to do with traditional values or they don’t actually do anything, have no hobbies or even know how to do anything other they play video games, choose craft beer or vape.

But it goes for both men and women. I think the best of both come from solid hardworking midwestern states. Family farmers or family ranchers.
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I don't hate women and have given plenty a chance but it is always the same old story. They constantly accuse me of cheating because I am an independent man and I don't want a woman to move in with me to be my mommy & take care of me. So they start getting suspicious and accuse me of cheating constantly. Either that or they try to manipulate me by taking themselves away from me and then it just becomes texting buddies because I'm constantly being punished because I refuse to be manipulated. And then there are the ones that make it clear you are at least #5 on their list of priorities behind their kids, their mom/dad/siblings, their job, their friends/social media and their pets.

It's just not worth it. I'd rather masturbate and spend time with my dogs. They don't accuse me of cheating, try manipulate me and I am #1 on their list of priorities.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436


Wow. Closely accurate for my feelings about men, widowed, but I have nature not pets. hf I went back and read another post of yours. So, I'll share. Was at an impromptu after dinner drink get-together and the single man at the table, who is literally brilliant, beautiful and aware tried over and over to hit on me, and it was just a turn-off. I don't want people touching me, trying to flatter me, just be yourself, ffs, if it isn't that shallow. Show some depth. Not all women are categorical.
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so much truth in that video
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Jeez, that’s almost worse than feminist rantings! One-sided, superficial, generalizing, patronizing, gold-digging feeltard who failed as a matchmaker and is now desperate to blame it on her clients, in this case females cause men didn’t even come to her or only just a few and that doesn’t surprise me at all. Being such simple creatures, men probably couldn’t find the way to her. 1rof1

Actually, I can’t tell which of the two sexes came worse across while she was trying to appear oh so smart, but forgetting that life can be super ironical.

When it comes to succesful relationships, the only important thing are matching personalities, meaning, you have to know yourself and the other person or have luck as the proverbial blind hen. There're women happy married to "good looking" Mr. Trainers aka fuckboys as well as women divorced from "not so good looking" company owners and the other way around.
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I'm a good looking 37 year old dude - divorced with 4 kids who live with me 3/4 of the time (my ex cheated and got pregnant by another guy... could not fix that - 16yr relationship)... no I'm not that beautiful... but I rarely go a week without some new woman in my inbox telling me how handsome I am. I work out... have my hair and I am 6'1 and not overweight and I make decent money.

I've been single over 3 years now.

I'll say this... I do have certain expectations when it comes to women... #1 they don't have to be the best looking girl in the room or anything like that - if we were using a number scale I'd date anything that's a 6.5 and up. My ex is a solid 9.5 (any guy would agree) for her age when it comes to looks... and comparison is wrong and unfair but it's something that's hard for me to get past. All I want out of a woman is someone that I find attractive enough to have sex with and who shares similar values, goals in life and demonstrates character and doesn't annoy the shit out of me.

At this age only 1/25 women are even a 6.5 - out of those only 1/2 are sane enough to date. Then out of that 1/50 that I will date nearly every single one has ended the same way. They all turn into flings... then I try to keep it going and they don't want to get too serious - they tell me they don't care to date a guy with 4 kids ... and they don't care but they don't want a relationship! I don't know. But I am so sick of it. These women are making me feel like a damn whore and it's not what I want. I'm getting too old and tired for this shit.

Just saying - I feel like the single women 'community' in my area has begun labeling me as a fun boy toy or something but I've got to where I ignore 3/4 women who try to talk to me now because I'm tired of getting treated like a damn whore.

Ok... sorry rant over.
 Quoting: frustrated 76000192


It could be some of them actually do want a relationship with you but are waiting till your kids grow up.4 kids and a beautiful 10 exwife is way too much competition. If you could hold on to a woman you actually like until your kids are grown you'd have a better chance maybe.
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Well, we can cherry pick the incel videos and comments and throw those up too. Truth is there are garbage people of both sexes, lowest common denominator and all. And yes, this is a female-bashing incel-seeming thread, no matter how one tries to cloak it. I particularly like the "only being realistic" remark and the implication that if you don't agree with the thread, you must be a "MIGTOW IS FOR FAGS" as well. (And I know at least some of you on this thread must know the "MIGTOW IS FOR FAGS" term from the chans.)

There are great people out there, they're just not as visible or as vocal because they have lives and aren't posting on narcisisstic social media and making narcissistic videos. You're taking examples from the places that encourage and harbor narcissism then holding it up as some sort of "realistic" extrapolated, representative sample.

This sort of thinking is no better than my liberal-leaning sibling who believes everything posted to Twitter and who gleefully thinks Trump is going to be indicted at any minute for a felony. It's the same mass media echo chamber thinking trap.

I suppose I blame media more than anything. Because I think most people are pretty easily swayed (to be fair, staying within the herd is a survival technique), and people are being corrupted by all these messages they are getting bombarded with.

Think about it, there is no benefit to those in power to show sane, healthy people living productive, quiet, happy lives.
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I'm 6'5", 205, look like JFK Jr, make $850,000 per year, can fix any car, have a vacation villa in Italy, and a racing boat in Miami Beach. I'm a former kickboxer and I speak 4 languages. I'm tired of dating swimsuit models.
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It’s called the “Princess Syndrome” and you can thank Disney for this.

A majority of females don’t seek real love, they ONLY seek RESOURCES.
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It’s called the “Princess Syndrome” and you can thank Disney for this.

A majority of females don’t seek real love, they ONLY seek RESOURCES.
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AKA prey
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It’s called the “Princess Syndrome” and you can thank Disney for this.

A majority of females don’t seek real love, they ONLY seek RESOURCES.
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AKA prey
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77862205


Good point. If only we had a society today that more parents were able to teach the simple basics for a happy life to their kids. Then again, as the video points out, many do get it before it is too late.
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I'm 6'5", 205, look like JFK Jr, make $850,000 per year, can fix any car, have a vacation villa in Italy, and a racing boat in Miami Beach. I'm a former kickboxer and I speak 4 languages. I'm tired of dating swimsuit models.

This is my bio when someone ridicules me on the internet. It's my standard retort to "haters."

It's the "internet" me. Would anyone like to add to my manly, hypermasculine bio?
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You also LOVE to Snow Ski in the Alps in the winter and spent 6 months with Monks in a Tibetan Monastery in your mid 20's looking inward into your soul.
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Amazingly, a certain woman from Canada is not chiming in on this thread, maybe she wants to remain anonymous?
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I'm a good looking 37 year old dude - divorced with 4 kids who live with me 3/4 of the time (my ex cheated and got pregnant by another guy... could not fix that - 16yr relationship)... no I'm not that beautiful... but I rarely go a week without some new woman in my inbox telling me how handsome I am. I work out... have my hair and I am 6'1 and not overweight and I make decent money.

I've been single over 3 years now.

I'll say this... I do have certain expectations when it comes to women... #1 they don't have to be the best looking girl in the room or anything like that - if we were using a number scale I'd date anything that's a 6.5 and up. My ex is a solid 9.5 (any guy would agree) for her age when it comes to looks... and comparison is wrong and unfair but it's something that's hard for me to get past. All I want out of a woman is someone that I find attractive enough to have sex with and who shares similar values, goals in life and demonstrates character and doesn't annoy the shit out of me.

At this age only 1/25 women are even a 6.5 - out of those only 1/2 are sane enough to date. Then out of that 1/50 that I will date nearly every single one has ended the same way. They all turn into flings... then I try to keep it going and they don't want to get too serious - they tell me they don't care to date a guy with 4 kids ... and they don't care but they don't want a relationship! I don't know. But I am so sick of it. These women are making me feel like a damn whore and it's not what I want. I'm getting too old and tired for this shit.

Just saying - I feel like the single women 'community' in my area has begun labeling me as a fun boy toy or something but I've got to where I ignore 3/4 women who try to talk to me now because I'm tired of getting treated like a damn whore.

Ok... sorry rant over.
 Quoting: frustrated 76000192


Damn just add 10 more years and the available attractive women drops down to zero. My ex is pissed at Me because I've been talking to a model for the last 4 months and She is a solid 10 in My book and all She is looking for is a guy that treats Her like a lady and whom can be loyal. The best part is She wants a large family and I still want kids because I only have one daughter. The ex is up in arms because She is 28 and She's smoking hot and She can still have children where as the ex is fat, old, and barren. I don't see why She is so threatened by this woman because She's the one that threw our 16.5 year relationship into the shitter when She decided to chase other men but then again I guess She is realizing She had it fucking easy and being a single mother worrying about finances constantly isn't as fun as Her lesbian liberal friend told Her it would be.
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Amazingly, a certain woman from Canada is not chiming in on this thread, maybe she wants to remain anonymous?
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Who are you referring to?
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Hoping some ladies chime in on a serious note.

To me anyway this is an area parents used to teach their kids but these days are divided by the feminist movement to -NOT- be that way.

More specifically I am curious if mothers today are teaching their girls to find a man -AFTER- 30, if at all. Seems to be what the millenials are doing - waiting until 30+ to seek out a real marriage.

Of course there are those who hook a guy to get prego and ass-rape his life so they have 'income' to look successful as a single mother, but that is not what this thread is about.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt


I’m 28, single . I wish I would’ve found a man earlier in life. Seems like I’m not good enough for the guys I’ve dated because they usually are the ones to break up with me.
 Quoting: CigarTigher



Don't give up tiger because most people are not ready for relationships until they get closer to 30. I was just like You and I had nothing but failure until I hit 28 then I had My first long term relationship and it lasted 16.5 years. You will find someone just avoid the boy toys and look for a real man whom is ready and can support a family.
 Quoting: jkm1864

Thank you! And I will. I’m not super picky. I just want someone that I am attracted to that has common beliefs when it comes to religion , kids and finances
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Depending on the age of the woman and what part of the country they were raised - brings about the expectations of a man they are seeking.

Young women want a hottie. In the 30s they want the hottie with money.

What traditional women find in many men is - a guy that plays video games, doesn’t know how to do anything at all - can’t fish, hunt, shoot, protect her, repair cars, work on the home or yard, has no hobbies other then pizza, beer and movies and video games, doesn’t cycle, hike, swim or do much of anything.

Yet they expect someone to look like a porn star and act like one too, and for that pleasure the woman gets to work outside the home and pay 50% of the bills, all while taking care of the home and children.

Men need to fall into traditional roles at a young age if they expect to find a quality woman. They themselves need to be traditional men.

Work hard, your family is the focus, love your wife like no other, you won’t find a good wife dancing on the bar during the weekend - a quality wife will be out doing normal hobbies or at church or volunteering somewhere or cycling or whatnot.

He needs to work hard, full time provide for everyone so she can take the traditional role of caring for the family, kids, home and her man and not have to work away from home. (You know the prerequisite of foreign brides).

Stop expecting her to carry 50% of the financial burden on top of the expectation of the children and household and looking like a cover model.

Be grown up enough before you marry to understand if a human being is growing in your wife’s body, it is going to change her body forever and ever , stretchmarks, saggy skin, deflated boobs. So there better be true love to keep you together and not looks.

After spending so much times stateside and overseas with military you see the same song again and again.

Men marry foreign women, they never expect her to work outside the home. They give her literally anything she needs and wants while she takes care of the house, kids and him. And if the foreign wife does work, that is typically because her family has then been brought over by the husband and they either start a business or they care for the kids. I’ve seen it over and over where the American wives were not given that luxury. They were always expected to work and pay 50% of the household on top of outside work.

Men have the same problems that they say women do - men expect a hot looking woman. They might be short, balding, out of shape and totally introverted, bad teeth but still expect a woman that looks like a model. When they could have a great life with a nice woman that looked like they do - but instead they simply get a Filipino wife and everyone knows why without even having to verbalize it...

There is enough blame to go around and can’t rest squarely on the
shoulders of women.

There are still plenty of women around that are looking for men not based on looks or money. But you have to find them in other places aside from a dating app or Saturday night club crawl. Try getting out in nature on weekends, going to whatever church function, volunteering, whatever the hobby is that you should get into.
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I have a brilliant daughter and she is going to college on full scholarship.

However, if she found a man that would allow her to stay home and raise children, she would have as many as possible and would be very happy.

I'm curious how this goes.
 Quoting: HarshingMyMellow


She should have ditched going to college and joined a church where men have traditional values. Work a part time job/volunteer and live at home until she finds him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


I see why her father would send her off to college. As a father I’m willing to bet he wants to be sure she has the ability to compete in the work force if needed after he is gone. Nothing wrong with that.

The important thing to recall, and many don’t unless they have a close relationship with their grandparents or if their parents were older.

Back in the day, most young women were sent off to college.

This is where they met a future husband. It’s good to have a wife that has some type of education so - when the father is working hard at his careerThe mother is able to stay home and either homeschool the kids or at least help them with homework (along with the father) since he will typically have current knowledge of math etc.

Usually it was right after college when the two got married and they settled into traditional roles.
 Quoting: Only Original Documents


Just don’t send your daughter to a liberal all girls school where they hate men.

Girls can meet good men in all sorts of places. College isn’t the only place anymore.
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I never men a man I liked. They either have drinking problems or anger management problems or controlling problems.
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took you three posts to say that?

hmmmmm... thinking you mayhaps have the 'problem'.. "cough"
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


Don't make fun.

Sometimes women have people-picker problems.
We are groomed as children by alcoholic fathers to be sex objects who fetch beer.

Then we find men that we test our limited skills on and it turns out the same for us as adults.

What women really need is some compassion and understanding and tools like Maslows Hierarchy and Understanding Healthy Relationships:
[link to www.thehotline.org (secure)]
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Don't make fun.

What women really need is some compassion and understanding and tools like Maslows Hierarchy and Understanding Healthy Relationships that are not femnazi man hating driven.
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I have 3 daughters, I have been married to their mother for 25 years, I'm a simple country boy and my standards are God, Family and friends. 2 of my girls are married to county boys with strong family instincts. tjey will do well.

My only advice on their wedding day was the words exactly..


Keep his belly full and his balls empty, make him ache to want to come home and see you. Try to look nice for him because we are visual creatures. Don't complain because he's gone working. Be a good mother.
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wtfdid

I feel sorry for your daughter.

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I feel sorry for your kids if you think there is a problem with what he said.
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My daughter is not a piece of flesh, not her husbands sex slave.
They both cook and clean.
He still loves her when she's looking 'unperfect'.
He appreciates her working (part time) just as she appreciates him working (full time).
She is a good mother, he's a good father.

It's how relationships should be!


Her father would call that poster a fucking sick selfish arsehole, not caring about his daughter!!


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From a soon to be divorced woman
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Girls can meet good men in all sorts of places. College definitely isn’t the place to anymore.
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Fixed your typo for you.
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Hoping some ladies chime in on a serious note.

To me anyway this is an area parents used to teach their kids but these days are divided by the feminist movement to -NOT- be that way.

More specifically I am curious if mothers today are teaching their girls to find a man -AFTER- 30, if at all. Seems to be what the millenials are doing - waiting until 30+ to seek out a real marriage.

Of course there are those who hook a guy to get prego and ass-rape his life so they have 'income' to look successful as a single mother, but that is not what this thread is about.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt


I’m 28, single . I wish I would’ve found a man earlier in life. Seems like I’m not good enough for the guys I’ve dated because they usually are the ones to break up with me.
 Quoting: CigarTigher



Don't give up tiger because most people are not ready for relationships until they get closer to 30. I was just like You and I had nothing but failure until I hit 28 then I had My first long term relationship and it lasted 16.5 years. You will find someone just avoid the boy toys and look for a real man whom is ready and can support a family.
 Quoting: jkm1864

Thank you! And I will. I’m not super picky. I just want someone that I am attracted to that has common beliefs when it comes to religion , kids and finances
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Simple desires right there. Compatibility and teamwork carry it in the long run.
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If it’s has tits or tires....

You’re gonna have a problem with it.
 Quoting: platzee


Been married for 30 years.

A lot of arguments started by my wife start with the phrase,

“Why can’t you just???”
 Quoting: platzee


my wife likes to start conversations like this "you haven't heard a thing i've said - have you ."
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Hmm they reach in people's clothes and poke for a future victim. Abandon those who actually need anything they misuse their female brain for . Grouping, quick to hide and gossip. If a loyal female exists by accident in some freak event they would cease to be female most likely
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Like bending light and using phermones like the predator in those Arnold movies. Maybe the wrist bomb and long hair is hinting that the predator is in fact the writers view of women
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If it’s has tits or tires....

You’re gonna have a problem with it.
 Quoting: platzee


Been married for 30 years.

A lot of arguments started by my wife start with the phrase,

“Why can’t you just???”
 Quoting: platzee


my wife likes to start conversations like this "you haven't heard a thing i've said - have you ."
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my EX wife used to say she had 2 gripes with me.


1 was I didnt listen, and

2 was some other god damn shit.
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It's hard living with someone. Better to be single and enjoy your life.
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If it’s has tits or tires....

You’re gonna have a problem with it.
 Quoting: platzee


Been married for 30 years.

A lot of arguments started by my wife start with the phrase,

“Why can’t you just???”
 Quoting: platzee


my wife likes to start conversations like this "you haven't heard a thing i've said - have you ."
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LOL.
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The Feminist movement ruined relationships. That was the plan by the glibalists. Now women expect men to do 50/50 of everything.
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I have 3 daughters, I have been married to their mother for 25 years, I'm a simple country boy and my standards are God, Family and friends. 2 of my girls are married to county boys with strong family instincts. tjey will do well.

My only advice on their wedding day was the words exactly..


Keep his belly full and his balls empty, make him ache to want to come home and see you. Try to look nice for him because we are visual creatures. Don't complain because he's gone working. Be a good mother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21728709


Have to admit - every happily married couple I have ever known said a variance of what you did there.

Perhaps that is the secret sauce to keep it together.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt


The man is the provider.
The woman is the... provider of comfort, children, love, sex, meals, education, housekeeping, joy, has to be beautiful all the time, and fill expectations of being a good mother?

So what are men providing actually? just curious to see answers.
 Quoting: MissCleo


If you need to ask, then your answer is "nothing." Having a man in your life is probably unwise. Find a highly compliant pet and you'll be fine.
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Re: Why Women Have Totally Unrealistic Standards for Men, Dating, and Marriage
Some men don't want a wife they want a slave. Especially Aries men. Every Aries man I knew was like that. One girlfriend was married to an Aries an she complained he was controlling and everything has to be his way or we don't it at all. Another girlfriend got divorced because she said her husband was the controlling type. I said he's probably an Aries? And she looked amazed and said yes how did you know?





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