Why Women Have Totally Unrealistic Standards for Men, Dating, and Marriage | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73506449 United States 07/30/2019 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Feminist movement ruined relationships. That was the plan by the glibalists. Now women expect men to do 50/50 of everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72040834 Correct but now women expect men to do everything and not complain about it. The bigger problem is all these males that go along with it, and ya will go along with it cause you're livestock and the nwo is right for owning your asses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70435856 United States 07/30/2019 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never met a man I liked. They either have drinking problems or anger management problems or controlling problems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72040834 Well, if you are a controlling flirtatious nag, that accounts for anger management and control issues, and less than half of the men out there drink AT ALL, less than 10 percent to the point of a problem. If EVERYONE out there has a problem, the problem is YOU. By your stupid response you must have drinking, anger management or controlling problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77862205 United States 07/30/2019 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said in another thread last week, I want to know where the hell all the good guys are! Quoting: Unicorn Woman 77759576 I am the standard that a lot of these guys are looking for. I'm very attractive, excellent shape, very financially responsible, very loyal, no kids, and a good science education. I can't find a damn guy that's good enough for me. What I mean by this is that if I were to hook up with said guy , my life would decline in the gutter. I've already got a good life, lovely home, nice little business where I'm not working all the time, and super good mental and physical health. These guys are freaking losers that I come across. and I'm not talking short, bald, and middle class , I'm talking freaking human disasters. Addictions, obese, mentally ill, financial disaster, baby mamas everywhere. so can one of you smart guys here tell me where all the good guys are? You brought up a good point I eluded to in an earlier comment. I know two young women in the same fix. Raised with traditional values - they are drop dead beautiful. But don’t do Instagram, only wear mascara, don’t do any bar crawls, don’t think that going shopping or playing with makeup is something to do or a hobby. Don’t dress like a prostitute - not even on Halloween. They actually sew, knit, draw, cook from scratch, do everything possible outdoors - hunt, fish, swim, bike, ride motorcycles, fix their cars, volunteer time, read real paper books the list goes on and on. And they are beautiful. But they have repeated the same mantra - guys these days want sex and they barely know the guy, which isn’t normal to do with traditional values or they don’t actually do anything, have no hobbies or even know how to do anything other they play video games, choose craft beer or vape. But it goes for both men and women. I think the best of both come from solid hardworking midwestern states. Family farmers or family ranchers. The real good guys have been already taken, and youll just have to deal with the leftovers or wait to find a free one that survived the process that the system puts you through when the woman decided theyre vested enough to bail with half or more of your actual wealth to spend on themselves. You probably never noticed the good ones who were being productive and doing what proper men do. In fact though, is there are just not that many out there like me and not that many women mentally and emotionally fit enough to get it or not abuse it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77862205 United States 07/30/2019 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Feminist movement ruined relationships. That was the plan by the glibalists. Now women expect men to do 50/50 of everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72040834 Correct but now women expect men to do everything and not complain about it. The bigger problem is all these males that go along with it, and ya will go along with it cause you're livestock and the nwo is right for owning your asses. The fact will always remain the same. Women are affected by hormone fluxes that impact perception snd emotion if they dont have some other stronger anchoring system of control and management and they get into trouble without management by someone that doesnt have that problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77862205 United States 07/30/2019 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never met a man I liked. They either have drinking problems or anger management problems or controlling problems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72040834 Well, if you are a controlling flirtatious nag, that accounts for anger management and control issues, and less than half of the men out there drink AT ALL, less than 10 percent to the point of a problem. If EVERYONE out there has a problem, the problem is YOU. By your stupid response you must have drinking, anger management or controlling problem. By controlling problem you really mean someone that prefers to use an objective standard of reason, balance and logical cause and effect in making decisions> Basically the issue boils down to not wanting any information or attempts that might get in the way of magical thinking and unrealistic expectations or assessment? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77862205 United States 07/30/2019 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't hate women and have given plenty a chance but it is always the same old story. They constantly accuse me of cheating because I am an independent man and I don't want a woman to move in with me to be my mommy & take care of me. So they start getting suspicious and accuse me of cheating constantly. Either that or they try to manipulate me by taking themselves away from me and then it just becomes texting buddies because I'm constantly being punished because I refuse to be manipulated. And then there are the ones that make it clear you are at least #5 on their list of priorities behind their kids, their mom/dad/siblings, their job, their friends/social media and their pets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 It's just not worth it. I'd rather masturbate and spend time with my dogs. They don't accuse me of cheating, try manipulate me and I am #1 on their list of priorities. Wow. Closely accurate for my feelings about men, widowed, but I have nature not pets. I went back and read another post of yours. So, I'll share. Was at an impromptu after dinner drink get-together and the single man at the table, who is literally brilliant, beautiful and aware tried over and over to hit on me, and it was just a turn-off. I don't want people touching me, trying to flatter me, just be yourself, ffs, if it isn't that shallow. Show some depth. Not all women are categorical. You feel youve been abused in the past and it's scarred you from ever trusting men again. Isolation means you didnt really adjust or learn, it means you just quit and squandered what potential you have savoring bitterness and lonliness as a fallback. Better to have expected pain than risk losing the predictability of it. |
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(OP) User ID: 77587958 United States 07/30/2019 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Feminist movement ruined relationships. That was the plan by the glibalists. Now women expect men to do 50/50 of everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72040834 Correct but now women expect men to do everything and not complain about it. The bigger problem is all these males that go along with it, and ya will go along with it cause you're livestock and the nwo is right for owning your asses. WOW thats a horrible attitude to have - "you're livestock and the nwo is right for owning your asses." Until it happens to you I suppose it's ok to have it happen to someone else as long as not you - right? Did you even watch the video? Your response does not indicate that at all. |
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(OP) User ID: 77587958 United States 07/30/2019 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like the girl in the video had to deal with a bunch of immature young women. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70435856 Exactly - the immature expectations of the 6ft+, 6 figure income, 6-pak man swooping in and being ther savior and answer to all their problems. What the video talks about, amongst other things, is what it takes for those women with 'Unrealistic expectations' to get past that. Very positive but will trigger those who are still in denial of the positive the host speaks of. |
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(OP) User ID: 77587958 United States 07/30/2019 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't hate women and have given plenty a chance but it is always the same old story. They constantly accuse me of cheating because I am an independent man and I don't want a woman to move in with me to be my mommy & take care of me. So they start getting suspicious and accuse me of cheating constantly. Either that or they try to manipulate me by taking themselves away from me and then it just becomes texting buddies because I'm constantly being punished because I refuse to be manipulated. And then there are the ones that make it clear you are at least #5 on their list of priorities behind their kids, their mom/dad/siblings, their job, their friends/social media and their pets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 It's just not worth it. I'd rather masturbate and spend time with my dogs. They don't accuse me of cheating, try manipulate me and I am #1 on their list of priorities. Wow. Closely accurate for my feelings about men, widowed, but I have nature not pets. I went back and read another post of yours. So, I'll share. Was at an impromptu after dinner drink get-together and the single man at the table, who is literally brilliant, beautiful and aware tried over and over to hit on me, and it was just a turn-off. I don't want people touching me, trying to flatter me, just be yourself, ffs, if it isn't that shallow. Show some depth. Not all women are categorical. You feel youve been abused in the past and it's scarred you from ever trusting men again. Isolation means you didnt really adjust or learn, it means you just quit and squandered what potential you have savoring bitterness and lonliness as a fallback. Better to have expected pain than risk losing the predictability of it. Kudos to you AC 77862205 - very sage perspective assessment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77512264 United States 07/30/2019 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Closely accurate for my feelings about men, widowed, but I have nature not pets. I went back and read another post of yours. So, I'll share. Was at an impromptu after dinner drink get-together and the single man at the table, who is literally brilliant, beautiful and aware tried over and over to hit on me, and it was just a turn-off. I don't want people touching me, trying to flatter me, just be yourself, ffs, if it isn't that shallow. Show some depth. Not all women are categorical. Quoting: pool You feel youve been abused in the past and it's scarred you from ever trusting men again. Isolation means you didnt really adjust or learn, it means you just quit and squandered what potential you have savoring bitterness and lonliness as a fallback. Better to have expected pain than risk losing the predictability of it. I do trust men, and have a boyfriend. Somethings I don't share bc it's not a part of the topic. I am not isolated, we go out together with family and friends. I travel to be with friends as well. I am not bitter, or lonely, I am expressing a turn-off when complete strangers make impromptu inappropriate sexually-driven moves. I don't expect you to understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77512264 United States 07/30/2019 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the problem is women haven't learned how machines work. They think if one part is broken the whole thing isn't going to work. Which isn't the case. You can prime almost any part to an engine to make it function. Modern women take the sum part of an individual, not the whole. Biggest mistake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73515970 United States 07/30/2019 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the problem is women haven't learned how machines work. They think if one part is broken the whole thing isn't going to work. Which isn't the case. You can prime almost any part to an engine to make it function. Modern women take the sum part of an individual, not the whole. Biggest mistake. Quoting: pool Not a mistake at all. Look at this another way: we know that not all blacks and browns are criminally violent and dangerous but just for good measure, we're definitely going to avoid spending too much time in their neighborhoods or ever putting ourselves amongst a large group of them when we are the small minority, aren't we? Unless you're a professional therapist charging by the hour, human relationships are not supposed to be about psychotherapy. If 'the whole' looks like shit, that's probably because it is and it's not worth trying to 'fix' on your own. Broken people cannot be fixed, they always get worse. If you want to stay safe, even stay alive, avoid them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77866879 Germany 07/30/2019 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the problem is women haven't learned how machines work. They think if one part is broken the whole thing isn't going to work. Which isn't the case. You can prime almost any part to an engine to make it function. Modern women take the sum part of an individual, not the whole. Biggest mistake. Quoting: pool You're right about it. I'm the first to throw things away which don't work properly anymore: laptops, cell phones, coffee machines, whole lotta things, and some of them were really expensive. Yeah, cars, too! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73515970 United States 07/30/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the problem is women haven't learned how machines work. They think if one part is broken the whole thing isn't going to work. Which isn't the case. You can prime almost any part to an engine to make it function. Modern women take the sum part of an individual, not the whole. Biggest mistake. Quoting: pool You're right about it. I'm the first to throw things away which don't work properly anymore: laptops, cell phones, coffee machines, whole lotta things, and some of them were really expensive. Yeah, cars, too! But the argument fails completely on what it tries to assert: that human beings are inanimate objects that can be tinkered with and turned into something else. Simply not so. If your friends are no brighter than your coffee machine, maybe you need to get out more. |
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User ID: 77810344 United States 07/30/2019 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hoping some ladies chime in on a serious note. Quoting: IJumpInIt To me anyway this is an area parents used to teach their kids but these days are divided by the feminist movement to -NOT- be that way. More specifically I am curious if mothers today are teaching their girls to find a man -AFTER- 30, if at all. Seems to be what the millenials are doing - waiting until 30+ to seek out a real marriage. Of course there are those who hook a guy to get prego and ass-rape his life so they have 'income' to look successful as a single mother, but that is not what this thread is about. I’m 28, single . I wish I would’ve found a man earlier in life. Seems like I’m not good enough for the guys I’ve dated because they usually are the ones to break up with me. Don't give up tiger because most people are not ready for relationships until they get closer to 30. I was just like You and I had nothing but failure until I hit 28 then I had My first long term relationship and it lasted 16.5 years. You will find someone just avoid the boy toys and look for a real man whom is ready and can support a family. Thank you! And I will. I’m not super picky. I just want someone that I am attracted to that has common beliefs when it comes to religion , kids and finances That's what We all want hun and guys really are not that picky to be honest. Pussy Grabber Extraordinaire |
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User ID: 77810344 United States 07/30/2019 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some men don't want a wife they want a slave. Especially Aries men. Every Aries man I knew was like that. One girlfriend was married to an Aries an she complained he was controlling and everything has to be his way or we don't it at all. Another girlfriend got divorced because she said her husband was the controlling type. I said he's probably an Aries? And she looked amazed and said yes how did you know? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72040834 I am an Aries and I'm not controlling at all. I let My EX have complete run over everything and it was a total disaster. She spent every penny She made and every penny I made collecting Her hoard of shoes and clothes that cover every square inch of the house. The only thing I wanted from Her was for Her to clean the fucking house and to spend My money wisely because My working years are limited. The house cleaning could never get done because She was a fucking hoarder so I lived a miserable 16.5 years surrounded by garbage and dog shit. My brother said the best thing I ever done was walk out that door and I'm starting to think He was right. Pussy Grabber Extraordinaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 07/30/2019 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came across this video while replying to another thread and thought it deserved its own. From a former matchmaker for women. She lays it out very well. Quoting: IJumpInIt No women hater here but a man who has heard the same over and over through the years from happily married couples, and this woman lays it out for other women to hear. Believe it or not this is not a political issue but a perception/expectation one and shows why so many women today are lonely and never happy. Yes the video is 21 minutes long but is so very true as to what is not only holding many women back but also flat -WRONG- with the image-based society we many have fallen in to. For those who want a synopsis there is no way to convey the video in two sentances. Maybe atch the last 5 minutes to get the most in short time. Prepared for the estrogen brigade women-haters label when only being realistic. The plan to destroy the family worked, you're about 70 years late, pal. More like 40 (when it really started picking up momentum), but moot point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77866879 Germany 07/30/2019 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the problem is women haven't learned how machines work. They think if one part is broken the whole thing isn't going to work. Which isn't the case. You can prime almost any part to an engine to make it function. Modern women take the sum part of an individual, not the whole. Biggest mistake. Quoting: pool You're right about it. I'm the first to throw things away which don't work properly anymore: laptops, cell phones, coffee machines, whole lotta things, and some of them were really expensive. Yeah, cars, too! But the argument fails completely on what it tries to assert: that human beings are inanimate objects that can be tinkered with and turned into something else. Simply not so. If your friends are no brighter than your coffee machine, maybe you need to get out more. Of course, the argument fails completely. I was being sarcastic. No one stops to phone or throw their mobile away just because the screen is damaged or something like that which means that the claim made above is totally *unrealistic*. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73515970 United States 07/30/2019 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course, the argument fails completely. I was being sarcastic. No one stops to phone or throw their mobile away just because the screen is damaged or something like that which means that the claim made above is totally *unrealistic*. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77866879 Yeah, I noticed.:) I just thought that 'machine' metaphor needed to be totally taken apart. Primitive kinds of people throw away useful things quite often, rich or poor. In Saudi Arabia, one often sees nice new cars abandoned on the road for some minor problem or they just ran out of gas. I saw many new and expensive things tossed into the dump on Indian reservations too because nobody wanted to try and fix them, or even take the trouble to drive into town to find somebody who could do it for them. (when money is 'free,' people won't take care of what they have) Statistically, young people recycle much faster than older ones do because most of them don't know how to fix anything either. Manufacturers like that fine but of course, environmentalists don't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77866879 Germany 07/30/2019 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course, the argument fails completely. I was being sarcastic. No one stops to phone or throw their mobile away just because the screen is damaged or something like that which means that the claim made above is totally *unrealistic*. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77866879 Yeah, I noticed.:) I just thought that 'machine' metaphor needed to be totally taken apart. Primitive kinds of people throw away useful things quite often, rich or poor. In Saudi Arabia, one often sees nice new cars abandoned on the road for some minor problem or they just ran out of gas. I saw many new and expensive things tossed into the dump on Indian reservations too because nobody wanted to try and fix them, or even take the trouble to drive into town to find somebody who could do it for them. (when money is 'free,' people won't take care of what they have) Statistically, young people recycle much faster than older ones do because most of them don't know how to fix anything either. Manufacturers like that fine but of course, environmentalists don't. Ok, I see now. I must admit, I didn’t even think about applying the metaphor, I got stuck right there asking myself: Is this for real? It was like a total loss on the car with no possibility of fixing it, not even for a man. So, now I did apply it. As for the throwaway society, I'm with you. That's why I exaggerated so much just to avoid to be taken seriously. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73515970 United States 07/30/2019 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I see now. I must admit, I didn’t even think about applying the metaphor, I got stuck right there asking myself: Is this for real? It was like a total loss on the car with no possibility of fixing it, not even for a man. So, now I did apply it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77866879 As for the throwaway society, I'm with you. That's why I exaggerated so much just to avoid to be taken seriously. The earth is over-full of humans. There is no good reason to take on a relationship, for either man or woman, if you find something a bit 'wrong' in their character, anything at all that worries you. You cannot 'fix' that! It's been in there since childhood and it's too late. And if you see it early, expect it to get much worse over time. There are 'cracks' that you cannot stop from spreading, sad but true. We all should have the highest standards we can when it comes to character; it's more important than anything else about a person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77866879 Germany 07/30/2019 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I see now. I must admit, I didn’t even think about applying the metaphor, I got stuck right there asking myself: Is this for real? It was like a total loss on the car with no possibility of fixing it, not even for a man. So, now I did apply it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77866879 As for the throwaway society, I'm with you. That's why I exaggerated so much just to avoid to be taken seriously. The earth is over-full of humans. There is no good reason to take on a relationship, for either man or woman, if you find something a bit 'wrong' in their character, anything at all that worries you. You cannot 'fix' that! It's been in there since childhood and it's too late. And if you see it early, expect it to get much worse over time. There are 'cracks' that you cannot stop from spreading, sad but true. We all should have the highest standards we can when it comes to character; it's more important than anything else about a person. I agree with you that you can't fix character traits of others which you consider as "wrong", especially not if you're consciously trying, but on the other hand, you'll almost always find something "wrong". The question is only can you live with that or not. I mean, we are often not even satisfied with ourselves which is btw. good because that forces us to work on ourselves and to grow. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73515970 United States 07/30/2019 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with you that you can't fix character traits of others which you consider as "wrong", especially not if you're consciously trying, but on the other hand, you'll almost always find something "wrong". The question is only can you live with that or not. I mean, we are often not even satisfied with ourselves which is btw. good because that forces us to work on ourselves and to grow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77866879 We can always find something that 'doesn't go with our living-room suite,' yes, but I mean 'wrong' more seriously. Emotional immaturity is always a red flag: a bad temper, rudeness in public and contempt for courtesy, impatience over insignificant annoyances, a propensity to violence, the least sign of cruelty to animals, jealousy and possessiveness, disrespect towards parents or to elderly in general, over-use of intoxicants - ever - and any tendency to whine and blame others for ones own shortcomings. All of those evils will grow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77836045 United States 07/30/2019 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with you that you can't fix character traits of others which you consider as "wrong", especially not if you're consciously trying, but on the other hand, you'll almost always find something "wrong". The question is only can you live with that or not. I mean, we are often not even satisfied with ourselves which is btw. good because that forces us to work on ourselves and to grow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77866879 We can always find something that 'doesn't go with our living-room suite,' yes, but I mean 'wrong' more seriously. Emotional immaturity is always a red flag: a bad temper, rudeness in public and contempt for courtesy, impatience over insignificant annoyances, a propensity to violence, the least sign of cruelty to animals, jealousy and possessiveness, disrespect towards parents or to elderly in general, over-use of intoxicants - ever - and any tendency to whine and blame others for ones own shortcomings. All of those evils will grow. Ok, that’s another matter. People like that need rather a shrink. I must go now. It was nice chatting with you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44883436 United States 07/30/2019 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't hate women and have given plenty a chance but it is always the same old story. They constantly accuse me of cheating because I am an independent man and I don't want a woman to move in with me to be my mommy & take care of me. So they start getting suspicious and accuse me of cheating constantly. Either that or they try to manipulate me by taking themselves away from me and then it just becomes texting buddies because I'm constantly being punished because I refuse to be manipulated. And then there are the ones that make it clear you are at least #5 on their list of priorities behind their kids, their mom/dad/siblings, their job, their friends/social media and their pets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 It's just not worth it. I'd rather masturbate and spend time with my dogs. They don't accuse me of cheating, try manipulate me and I am #1 on their list of priorities. Wow. Closely accurate for my feelings about men, widowed, but I have nature not pets. I went back and read another post of yours. So, I'll share. Was at an impromptu after dinner drink get-together and the single man at the table, who is literally brilliant, beautiful and aware tried over and over to hit on me, and it was just a turn-off. I don't want people touching me, trying to flatter me, just be yourself, ffs, if it isn't that shallow. Show some depth. Not all women are categorical. I'm sorry for your loss....honestly. Sorry you share my outlook towards the opposite sex. I never said I WANT to feel this way towards women but bad experiences have led me here. Now I'm convinced bad experiences with women is all there is to have. Some society we've built for ourselves... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70797571 United States 07/30/2019 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been married for 30 years. A lot of arguments started by my wife start with the phrase, “Why can’t you just???” my wife likes to start conversations like this "you haven't heard a thing i've said - have you ." Well, YOU need to start listening then and quit your complaining. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12186226 United States 07/30/2019 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been married for 30 years. A lot of arguments started by my wife start with the phrase, “Why can’t you just???” my wife likes to start conversations like this "you haven't heard a thing i've said - have you ." Well, YOU need to start listening then and quit your complaining. She 'needs' to get rid of him because that character defect is not going to change with time. He doesn't listen because he has contempt for everybody except himself. If he admires anyone, it can only be an even worse asshole than himself who kicks him in the teeth. |