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Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

 
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2 Cor 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
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That’s why I found a counterexample for you.
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John 5:38 HCSB
You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent.

How could Jesus be saying that if he is the Word???
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And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.

How can it be
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When something living is abstracted (cut away from the true nature to which it belongs) for idol worship, it loses its life and meaning. It can no longer be understood or appreciated.

Like a Christmas tree..

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Job 39:26-28, WYC
26 Whether an hawk spreading abroad his wings to the south, beginneth to have feathers by thy wisdom? (Be it by thy wisdom that a hawk haveth feathers, and spreadeth his wings towards the south?)
27 Whether an eagle shall be raised up at thy commandment, and shall set his nest in high places?
28 He dwelleth in stones, and he abideth in flints broken before, and in rocks, to which men may not nigh. (He liveth on the stones, yea, on broken stones and rocks, to which men cannot come near.)

Colossians 3:2, NIV
2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980

That’s why I found a counterexample for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77543161


John 5:38 HCSB
You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent.

How could Jesus be saying that if he is the Word???
 Quoting: Photine 75425980



please show a scripture that says he IS the Word

big difference in the words is and was
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980

That’s why I found a counterexample for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77543161


John 5:38 HCSB
You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent.

How could Jesus be saying that if he is the Word???
 Quoting: Photine 75425980



please show a scripture that says he IS the Word

big difference in the words is and was
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77719831


11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Revelation 19:11-14
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John 5:38
You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent.

John 15:4
Live in me. Make your home in me just as I do in you.

Deut 30:14
the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart
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Okay, Photine. What’s your favorite verse in the Bible?
Photine
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Okay, Photine. What’s your favorite verse in the Bible?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Job 37:21
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Only Jesus and the Father would qualify as the "Us" and "our" individuals.
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You believe in a THIRD, INDIVIDUAL, ENTITY.

Whatchou talkin' 'bout willis
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


So WHO or WHAT "FILLED" Jesus AND "LED" Him into the wilderness - willis?

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,


ANSWER THE QUESTION.
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Okay, Photine. What’s your favorite verse in the Bible?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Job 37:21
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That figures. And you say you love Jesus?

ohno

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Only Jesus and the Father would qualify as the "Us" and "our" individuals.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


You believe in a THIRD, INDIVIDUAL, ENTITY.

Whatchou talkin' 'bout willis
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


So WHO or WHAT
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So do you affirm there was a "third enitity" with Jesus and the Father in the beginning, or not?
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Okay, Photine. What’s your favorite verse in the Bible?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Job 37:21
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


That figures. And you say you love Jesus?
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Job 37:21 is about Jesus.
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Of course you would.

It destroys your false doctrine.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Only Jesus and the Father would qualify as the "Us" and "our" individuals.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


You believe in a THIRD, INDIVIDUAL, ENTITY.

Whatchou talkin' 'bout willis
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


So WHO or WHAT
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So do you affirm there was a "third enitity" with Jesus and the Father in the beginning, or not?
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and
void; and darkness was upon the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
Photine
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Of course you would.

It destroys your false doctrine.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Like your false doctrine that Jesus isn't the Word of God, but that the Word is "in him"..
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Of course you would.

It destroys your false doctrine.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Like your false doctrine that Jesus isn't the Word of God, but that the Word is "in him"..
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


False doctrine?

Jesus SPEAKS the words of the Father.

John wrote the way he did to Honour Jesus.
Yet John also records EXACTLY what Jesus said.

Who TOLD Jesus what to say?

...the Father SENT me Said by Jesus 47 times
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.



Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
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So WHO or WHAT "FILLED" Jesus AND "LED" Him into the wilderness - willis?

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,


ANSWER THE QUESTION - willis
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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...


You believe in a THIRD, INDIVIDUAL, ENTITY.

Whatchou talkin' 'bout willis
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


So WHO or WHAT
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So do you affirm there was a "third enitity" with Jesus and the Father in the beginning, or not?
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and
void; and darkness was upon the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Lol... That's Jesus, not a "third entity".

Ps 33:6
By the Word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the Spirit of His mouth all their host.

Ps 104:30
When You send Your Spirit, they are created, and You renew the face of the earth.

1 Cor 8:6b
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the Lord is the Spirit.

Ephesians 6:17
And take ye the helmet of health, and the sword of the Spirit, that is, the Word of God.


2 Samuel 23:2
The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me;
His Word was on my tongue.

ALL THINGS were created by JESUS, NOT Jesus AND A THIRD ENTITY.

The Word is the Spirit, IS JESUS.

Deal with it.

P.s.: And WHY did you just say before that "Only Jesus and the Father would qualify as the "Us" and "our" individuals." when YOU ALSO BELIEVE THERE WAS A THIRD ENTITY THERE. Lying by OMISSION? Do you not CARE that much about that "THIRD ENTITY" you just forget he exists???
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I would really love to move past Luke 4:1.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Of course you would.

It destroys your false doctrine.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Like your false doctrine that Jesus isn't the Word of God, but that the Word is "in him"..
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


False doctrine?

Jesus SPEAKS the words of the Father.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So? Jesus said the Father is in him, performing the works, not "his word". HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. HE SPEAKS THE WORDS OF GOD.

So yeah about that false doctrine of yours where Jesus is not the Word of Jn 1:1, but the Word is "in jesus", only?
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Okay, Photine. What’s your favorite verse in the Bible?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Job 37:21
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


That figures. And you say you love Jesus?
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Job 37:21 is about Jesus.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


*Tumbleweed*

epiclol
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...

That’s why I found a counterexample for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77543161


John 5:38 HCSB
You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent.

How could Jesus be saying that if he is the Word???
 Quoting: Photine 75425980



please show a scripture that says he IS the Word

big difference in the words is and was
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77719831


11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Revelation 19:11-14
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


*Tumbleweed*

epiclol
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I wonder if TLS' "Third Entity" is also "God's Word" which "lives in Jesus"...
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Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and
void; and darkness was upon the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Lol... That's Jesus, not a "third entity".

Ps 33:6
By the Word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the Spirit of His mouth all their host.

Ps 104:30
When You send Your Spirit, they are created, and You renew the face of the earth.

1 Cor 8:6b
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the Lord is the Spirit.

Ephesians 6:17
And take ye the helmet of health, and the sword of the Spirit, that is, the Word of God.


2 Samuel 23:2
The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me;
His Word was on my tongue.

ALL THINGS were created by JESUS, NOT Jesus AND A THIRD ENTITY.

The Word is the Spirit, IS JESUS.

Deal with it.

P.s.: And WHY did you just say before that "Only Jesus and the Father would qualify as the "Us" and "our" individuals." when YOU ALSO BELIEVE THERE WAS A THIRD ENTITY THERE. Lying by OMISSION? Do you not CARE that much about that "THIRD ENTITY" you just forget he exists???
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Jesus IS NOT "the Spirit of God".

That there is the Holy Spirit in Genesis 1.

Jesus isn't specifically mentioned in the Old Testament FOR THE SIMPLE FACT that it WAS the "Great Mystery" that God HAS a Son - that He kept "hidden" during the 4000 years of the OT.

DEAL WITH THIS.

So WHO or WHAT "FILLED" Jesus AND "LED" Him into the wilderness - willis?

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,


ANSWER THE QUESTION - willis
 Quoting: TheLordsServant

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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False doctrine?

Jesus SPEAKS the words of the Father.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


So? Jesus said the Father is in him, performing the works, not "his word". HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. HE SPEAKS THE WORDS OF GOD.

So yeah about that false doctrine of yours where Jesus is not the Word of Jn 1:1, but the Word is "in jesus", only?
 Quoting: TheLordsServant

IF He is the ENTIRE WORD of God then He would KNOW when He's going to return.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
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49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.



Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

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Jesus IS NOT "the Spirit of God".
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


YES HE IS.

1 Cor 8:6b
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the Lord is the Spirit.

No, there is NO "third entity" who was with the Father and the Word in the beginning.

No, that is not a "third entity" in Gen 1:2 creating the universe, that is Christ.

No, there is no "third entity" called "the Lord" or "the Spirit", both those titles belong to Christ.
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Jesus isn't specifically mentioned in the Old Testament FOR THE SIMPLE FACT that it WAS the "Great Mystery" that God HAS a Son - that He kept "hidden" during the 4000 years of the OT.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


He's in Gen 1:2.
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False doctrine?

Jesus SPEAKS the words of the Father.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


So? Jesus said the Father is in him, performing the works, not "his word". HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. HE SPEAKS THE WORDS OF GOD.

So yeah about that false doctrine of yours where Jesus is not the Word of Jn 1:1, but the Word is "in jesus", only?
 Quoting: TheLordsServant

IF He is the ENTIRE WORD of God
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


He is the Word of God, the only one; the Word that is in John 1:1. There is no "other Word" of God that "lives in him"... which I suspect is your "third entity".
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I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


John 16:13
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard.





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