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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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 Quoting: CleverCreator


What study is this based on?
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 Quoting: CleverCreator


What study is this based on?
 Quoting: Dutchy20


All of them that discuss mitochondrial involvement.....

I got to the April 2020.... but I assumed tumors. So I was wrong. Then we had the case studies plus anecdotal evidence of some folks tumors just going away upon infection....

And ta da.

Here is one study... the rest are branching from this....

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This is a better starter...

Decoding SARS-CoV-2 hijacking of host mitochondria in COVID-19 pathogenesis

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"The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?"

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Rural India

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This is a better starter...

Decoding SARS-CoV-2 hijacking of host mitochondria in COVID-19 pathogenesis

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 Quoting: CleverCreator


Thanks, need to do a deeper dive which with biochem is tedious for me. I'm somewhat of the opinion that there is a lot of jumping to conclusions in the reporting around these issue's that the actual papers tend to avoid. Hard for me to judge the merits of said conclusions though.
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That is laughable. Yes, if the WHO hadn't had their collective head up CCP's butt maybe things could have been less worse.

But, my cynicism believes that with the combined corruption/arrogance/stupidity in the political, scientific, media realms it couldn't have gone any other way.


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More evidence that variants are more lethal



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So, the CDC's updated "How Coronavirus Spreads" is probably not fully up to date in dealing with these variants?

Are they only addressing the prior C19 me wonders. As they quite often seem a day late and a dollar short in informing the public accurately.

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How COVID-19 Spreads (They get our tax $$ so here's the one page blurb they have)

COVID-19 spreads when an infected person breathes out droplets and very small particles that contain the virus. These droplets and particles can be breathed in by other people or land on their eyes, noses, or mouth. In some circumstances, they may contaminate surfaces they touch. People who are closer than 6 feet from the infected person are most likely to get infected.

Types of Spread

COVID-19 is spread in three main ways

Breathing in air when close to an infected person who is exhaling small droplets and particles that contain the virus.
Having these small droplets and particles that contain virus land on the eyes, nose, or mouth, especially through splashes and sprays like a cough or sneeze.
Touching eyes, nose, or mouth with hands that have the virus on them.

Protect yourself and others

The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus. Protect yourself and others from all ways COVID-19 spreads by taking these prevention actions:

Get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as you can.
Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
Stay at least 6 feet apart from others who don’t live with you.
Avoid crowds and poorly ventilated indoor spaces, and improve ventilation.
Wash your hands often with soap and water. Use hand sanitizer if soap and water aren’t available.

Learn more about what you can do to protect yourself and others and what you can do after you’ve been fully vaccinated.

How COVID-19 Spreads

Anyone infected with COVID-19 can spread it, even if they do NOT have symptoms.

To protect yourself against getting COVID-19 from inhalation:

Get vaccinated.
Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
Stay 6 feet apart.
Avoid crowds and poorly ventilated spaces, and improve ventilation.

To protect yourself against getting COVID-19 from splashes or sprays:

Get vaccinated.
Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
Stay 6 feet apart.
Avoid crowds.

To protect yourself against getting COVID-19 from touching your eyes, nose, or mouth:

Get vaccinated.
Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
Wash your hands.

COVID-19 and animals

COVID-19 can spread from people to animals in some situations. Pet cats and dogs can sometimes become infected after close contact with people with COVID-19. Learn what you should do if you have pets.
Reinfection

Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare. CDC is actively working to learn more about reinfection to inform public health action.

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Covid Desperation Is Spreading Across India... [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
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With Goa Toll, Hospital Oxygen Shortage Has Taken Lives of at Least 223 COVID Patients in India.... [link to thewire.in (secure)]
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Boris is not going to want to do it. Our lives in Mr Johnson's hands

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Hmm we shall see

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Boris is not going to want to do it. Our lives in Mr Johnson's hands


 Quoting: lightning1977


Back to the regional tier system again?

The covid test centre's in my region (Northern England)are still very quiet at the moment.

We are expecting increased numbers from next week.

Will inform if there's a marked uptake in testing here...

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Third UK wave could occur in late summer if reopening continues, scientists warn

Modelling by Imperial College's COVID-19 Response Team also found there could be a "small wave" of hospital admissions and about 9,000 additional deaths by June 2022 if steps three and four of the roadmap continue as planned.

They said the timing and size of a third wave will depend on the levels of transmission between 17 May, when step three happens, and 21 June, when step four is set to take place.

But, if variants of concern emerge that are comparable to the Kent variant, a third wave could be "substantially larger" - both in hospital admissions and deaths - than the spike in the winter of 2021, the researchers said.

"Given the high vaccine uptake observed so far, most deaths are predicted to occur in vaccinated individuals, because of imperfect vaccine efficacy," the report said.

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Thanks for the news, everybody. hf
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Why is it saying more vaccinated people are going to die in a third wave? why get the vaccine then
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Third UK wave could occur in late summer if reopening continues, scientists warn

Modelling by Imperial College's COVID-19 Response Team also found there could be a "small wave" of hospital admissions and about 9,000 additional deaths by June 2022 if steps three and four of the roadmap continue as planned.

They said the timing and size of a third wave will depend on the levels of transmission between 17 May, when step three happens, and 21 June, when step four is set to take place.

But, if variants of concern emerge that are comparable to the Kent variant, a third wave could be "substantially larger" - both in hospital admissions and deaths - than the spike in the winter of 2021, the researchers said.

"Given the high vaccine uptake observed so far, most deaths are predicted to occur in vaccinated individuals, because of imperfect vaccine efficacy," the report said.

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 Quoting: ShylaRose


Or because the variants escape....
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Why is it saying more vaccinated people are going to die in a third wave? why get the vaccine then
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They assume not as many will die as the vaccine will work in most cases???

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Why is it saying more vaccinated people are going to die in a third wave? why get the vaccine then
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Vaccinations aren't 100% effective, some will still get sick. If the vaccine prevents 19/20 possible deaths from infection (95% reduction) and you have 90% of the population vaccinated with exposure rates equal between vaccinated and unvaccinated you would see about 1/3 deaths being in the fully vaccinated group. In the same situation without any vaccination you would see a more then 7 fold increase; if we assume 3 died in the prior example it would now be 22 in total.

These numbers are assuming a lot and simplified but I hope it explains the basics.
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Why is it saying more vaccinated people are going to die in a third wave? why get the vaccine then
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Vaccinations aren't 100% effective, some will still get sick. If the vaccine prevents 19/20 possible deaths from infection (95% reduction) and you have 90% of the population vaccinated with exposure rates equal between vaccinated and unvaccinated you would see about 1/3 deaths being in the fully vaccinated group. In the same situation without any vaccination you would see a more then 7 fold increase; if we assume 3 died in the prior example it would now be 22 in total.

These numbers are assuming a lot and simplified but I hope it explains the basics.
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Got it makes sense thanks.
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It’s starting...

Case case cluster.....


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Oh. This is really bad.... remember those “cured” cancer folks after COVID-19.... they were not cured. It’s cancer without tumors.

So we were right about the sars Cov 2 cancer risks.... but it will be without tumors. Holy fresh fucked mink coats.


 Quoting: CleverCreator


gasp
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28 hot spots in England, including the one in Bolton.

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Right in time for Iowa and Memorial Day gathering.... we already have the variant here.

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And not only that. The vaccine brand most utilised in the UK.. Astra






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