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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75172675 United States 08/08/2020 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | um does anyone else feel like they've seen this exact thread and same exact replies once before? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78051284 I have. Weeks ago. It's a daily occurrence because police have been trained to murder people and there is a reason for it. Most people here would say "you don't dare hold a gun when a cop is around" not because it is illegal, but because they are afraid OR WORST YET, BRAINWASHED into believing a cop is a holy cow with special rights. He's not. .And that is the goal in all of this, to make people afraid because the only way a million cops can control 360 million people who are greatly displeased with government is through FEAR That's not exactly true. Cops DO have special rights. They are permitted some actions based on the inherent danger of their occupation. You sound like a nazi. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178057 United States 08/08/2020 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not a cop. So I cant legally kill people or legally "make them shut up". "Dont tread on me" unless you have a badge. Then please shoot me in my back while on my knees. I'm not a cop. But I think law enforcement is one of the most noble professions I can think of. When the community called out for someone who was willing to go out in the dark in the middle of the night and answer a call for help, that might result in their being killed...these are the people that said..."I'll go". I hope you never have to rely on an officers proficient use of deadly force, but if you ever do you'll understand exactly what I mean. Then you'll go get a weapon and training (lots of training, frequently) to be ready for next time. Be glad you've been fortunate. But recognize reality. Watch some CCTV vids. Watch some badge cams, and understand that these criminals walk amongst law abiding citizens. Lol Did the noble fighters come with tons of military toys and kill the very people they are trying to protect and say oops. No biggie. Back in the day, the townfolk would have hung them from a lamp post. |
Gorgol
User ID: 77844744 Netherlands 08/08/2020 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and I'm the shill? haha I still haven't seen any rebuttal to any of my legally sound assertions. Care to tell us all where the legal inaccuracies of my assertions lie? I can't wait. POST THE ARTICLES to back up your drivel 3rd time, Spazmo Liar I'm not compelled to give you a lesson on US law to establish what I already understand. You'll need to do your own research. The fact that you aren't aware of the law, doesn't require me to educate you. Like I said, if anything I've said is legally inaccurate, I really would like to know about it. The way I understand the law is exactly as I've said. If that's not the case, explain why not and we can take it from there. Instead of endlessly repeating repeating your non-sense State your case then and refer to which articles are applicable Things that would hold up "in court" as you so 'expertly' express it But I know you won't Fucking clown Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |
darkwolf007
User ID: 79236051 United States 08/08/2020 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76422031 NEVER touch your weapon in the presence of an officer unless ordered to do so. I would still even under orders to lay my hands on my weapon, probably refuse...show em my shoulder blades with my hands in the air...lay face down with my arms stretched as far from my sidearm as I could get them...and shut the fuck up and let them handle it. After being asked for his license and registration, Castile told Officer Yanez that he had a firearm (Castile was licensed to carry) to which Yanez replied, "Don't reach for it then", and Castile said "I'm, I, I was reaching for..." Yanez said "Don't pull it out", Castile replied "I'm not pulling it out", and Reynolds said "He's not..." Yanez repeated "Don't pull it out"[5] and then shot at Castile at close range seven times, hitting him five times. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Not good enough. Got a weapon? You're a threat Often times, Sol-tari, simply existing in time and space makes you a threat enough to be shot and killed by the cops these days. You do not even have to have your firearm in your hands either! You can have it in the back seat and the numerous cops around you will pull their guns on you as though you are the single greatest threat to ever walk the face of the Earth. I think it is not a bad idea for me to suggest all cops in America to be forced to stop wearing body armor, carrying guns, and to only wear their uniforms and to bring along a clip board with a pen of course. How can we still be a Free Country when nearly all of our Freedoms are actually a certain death sentence via trigger happy cop(s)? You are suggesting asking people to confront criminals (who probably armed) with a clipboard and no defensive tools? Who exactly is you think is going to line up for this occupation at 40k a yr? Would you do it? Have you watched any police body cam vids? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] It really does not matter anymore. BlackScoutSurvival reminded with his video that it does not matter anymore. Mostly because cops nowadays are just plain improperly trained... like I said. It would be in everyone's best interest for my idea to very sadly be implemented nationwide as we attempt to fix our country. However, seeing as this is indeed the Apocalypse there really is no easy fix for pretty much any of America's problems. This improperly trained cop issue is one of the most critical problems America currently has. So either we force all cops to go on with their jobs without their body armor and guns, or we Americans finally roll over and admit that we have no real intentions to safeguard our Constitution and Bill of Rights. From there we Americans freely give up all of our guns and ammo to our cops and Government. Both choices being two different extremes on possible answers to helping to solve at least one of our nation's greatest woes so far. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75172675 United States 08/08/2020 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76422031 and I'm the shill? haha I still haven't seen any rebuttal to any of my legally sound assertions. Care to tell us all where the legal inaccuracies of my assertions lie? I can't wait. POST THE ARTICLES to back up your drivel 3rd time, Spazmo Liar I'm not compelled to give you a lesson on US law to establish what I already understand. You'll need to do your own research. The fact that you aren't aware of the law, doesn't require me to educate you. Like I said, if anything I've said is legally inaccurate, I really would like to know about it. The way I understand the law is exactly as I've said. If that's not the case, explain why not and we can take it from there. Instead of endlessly repeating repeating your non-sense State your case then and refer to which articles are applicable Things that would hold up "in court" as you so 'expertly' express it But I know you won't Fucking clown |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76422031 United States 08/08/2020 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Little weasel neighbor was upset that he could hear them playing video games and was too scared to go over and tell them to turn it down himself... so he calls the cops. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Let's not forget about the guy who came to the door pretending to be a tough guy with a gun. Real men don't need guns. Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME Just make sure you STAY ON YOUR PROPERTY. That's where the victim messed up. If he had of stayed inside the door threshold he would probably still be with us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79240841 United States 08/08/2020 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | um does anyone else feel like they've seen this exact thread and same exact replies once before? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78051284 I have. Weeks ago. It's a daily occurrence because police have been trained to murder people and there is a reason for it. Most people here would say "you don't dare hold a gun when a cop is around" not because it is illegal, but because they are afraid OR WORST YET, BRAINWASHED into believing a cop is a holy cow with special rights. He's not. .And that is the goal in all of this, to make people afraid because the only way a million cops can control 360 million people who are greatly displeased with government is through FEAR That's not exactly true. Cops DO have special rights. They are permitted some actions based on the inherent danger of their occupation. No, they don't. Not LEGALLY, because the US Constitution supersedes ALL LAWS in the United States and the US Constitution says I have equal rights to a police officer. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 79236051 United States 08/08/2020 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a daily occurrence because police have been trained to murder people and there is a reason for it. Most people here would say "you don't dare hold a gun when a cop is around" not because it is illegal, but because they are afraid OR WORST YET, BRAINWASHED into believing a cop is a holy cow with special rights. He's not. .And that is the goal in all of this, to make people afraid because the only way a million cops can control 360 million people who are greatly displeased with government is through FEAR That's not exactly true. Cops DO have special rights. They are permitted some actions based on the inherent danger of their occupation. You sound like a nazi. Or a Communist. To give cops special rights because of their occupational hazard is the very reason why we Americans are in our grave cop critical issue. Sure, in certain circumstances, but this is to be decided by the Courts per instance; never to give cops special rights! However, what I said in my previous sentence would be reserved for a world that actually makes sense and is not Corrupt. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79240841 United States 08/08/2020 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasn't this guy in a private building, tenant, owner, meaning he was on his own private property, be it in the apartment or on the hallway? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78512614 He was renting an apartment. He didn't own the complex. The hallway is public unless marked otherwise. In which case the cops would have needed a warrant or evidence someone inside was in imminent danger to proceed past the posted sign. Good question. WRONG. The hallway is private and the tenant has an EXCLUSIVE right to be there, THE COP DOES NOT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78551970 United States 08/08/2020 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Little weasel neighbor was upset that he could hear them playing video games and was too scared to go over and tell them to turn it down himself... so he calls the cops. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Let's not forget about the guy who came to the door pretending to be a tough guy with a gun. Real men don't need guns. Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76422031 United States 08/08/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sol-tari After being asked for his license and registration, Castile told Officer Yanez that he had a firearm (Castile was licensed to carry) to which Yanez replied, "Don't reach for it then", and Castile said "I'm, I, I was reaching for..." Yanez said "Don't pull it out", Castile replied "I'm not pulling it out", and Reynolds said "He's not..." Yanez repeated "Don't pull it out"[5] and then shot at Castile at close range seven times, hitting him five times. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Not good enough. Got a weapon? You're a threat Often times, Sol-tari, simply existing in time and space makes you a threat enough to be shot and killed by the cops these days. You do not even have to have your firearm in your hands either! You can have it in the back seat and the numerous cops around you will pull their guns on you as though you are the single greatest threat to ever walk the face of the Earth. I think it is not a bad idea for me to suggest all cops in America to be forced to stop wearing body armor, carrying guns, and to only wear their uniforms and to bring along a clip board with a pen of course. How can we still be a Free Country when nearly all of our Freedoms are actually a certain death sentence via trigger happy cop(s)? You are suggesting asking people to confront criminals (who probably armed) with a clipboard and no defensive tools? Who exactly is you think is going to line up for this occupation at 40k a yr? Would you do it? Have you watched any police body cam vids? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] It really does not matter anymore. BlackScoutSurvival reminded with his video that it does not matter anymore. Mostly because cops nowadays are just plain improperly trained... like I said. It would be in everyone's best interest for my idea to very sadly be implemented nationwide as we attempt to fix our country. However, seeing as this is indeed the Apocalypse there really is no easy fix for pretty much any of America's problems. This improperly trained cop issue is one of the most critical problems America currently has. So either we force all cops to go on with their jobs without their body armor and guns, or we Americans finally roll over and admit that we have no real intentions to safeguard our Constitution and Bill of Rights. From there we Americans freely give up all of our guns and ammo to our cops and Government. Both choices being two different extremes on possible answers to helping to solve at least one of our nation's greatest woes so far. Thanks for that info friend. I'll watch the vid. What I can tell you with the utmost confidence is that NO ONE is getting my or any law enforcement officers deadly force multiplier. I wouldn't have it any other way. I will watch the vid though, and I appreciate the info. |
Box
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75172675 United States 08/08/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75995089 Let's not forget about the guy who came to the door pretending to be a tough guy with a gun. Real men don't need guns. Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. How do you identify yourself while hiding out of view? Sounds like something a murderous would do. Oh wait they did. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 79236051 United States 08/08/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75995089 Let's not forget about the guy who came to the door pretending to be a tough guy with a gun. Real men don't need guns. Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME Just make sure you STAY ON YOUR PROPERTY. That's where the victim messed up. If he had of stayed inside the door threshold he would probably still be with us. Is this the first time you have come to the Internet, AC? There have been more than a few times when home owners have done just what you said. They have been shot. Some have been killed because they all actively refused to obey their barked Orders by the cop(s) involved at those times. All cops are our gods and goddesses and have been for a long effin' time because they have "special rights". Or at least that is what all of these LEOs who love to shoot and kill people anyways. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79240841 United States 08/08/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75995089 Let's not forget about the guy who came to the door pretending to be a tough guy with a gun. Real men don't need guns. Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME Just make sure you STAY ON YOUR PROPERTY. That's where the victim messed up. If he had of stayed inside the door threshold he would probably still be with us. I don't think it would have made a bit a difference. The cop shot the instant he saw a gun and it wouldnt have made any difference if the guy was in his own SHOWER A lot of them are trained to do just that by zionist madmen. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 79236051 United States 08/08/2020 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are happy someone was murdered by cops, Box, because of their choice of video game(s)? Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75172675 United States 08/08/2020 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76422031 Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. How do you identify yourself while hiding out of view? Sounds like something a murderous would do. Oh wait they did. murderers They're cops you just have to trust that they are. Don't worry that you can't see them it's definitely not a criminal or cop sitting around the corner waiting to ambush and murder you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79240841 United States 08/08/2020 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75995089 Let's not forget about the guy who came to the door pretending to be a tough guy with a gun. Real men don't need guns. Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. NO, they didn't. They claimed to be police. ANYONE can do that. Identifying yourself involves showing a badge and your with a number on it AND YOUR FACE, and giving the citizen time to confirm you are there on a call and are who you claim to be. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178057 United States 08/08/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth is, the cops are such trigger happy fucking cowards that even if he was holding a Playstation controller they probably would have killed anyways Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76030188 Why don't you sign up to do it then? Thought so. The truth is, the cops are such trigger happy fucking cowards that even if he was holding a Playstation controller they probably would have killed anyways Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76030188 Why don't you sign up to do it then? Thought so. Who held a gun to the cops head to sign up? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76422031 United States 08/08/2020 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasn't this guy in a private building, tenant, owner, meaning he was on his own private property, be it in the apartment or on the hallway? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78512614 He was renting an apartment. He didn't own the complex. The hallway is public unless marked otherwise. In which case the cops would have needed a warrant or evidence someone inside was in imminent danger to proceed past the posted sign. Good question. WRONG. The hallway is private and the tenant has an EXCLUSIVE right to be there, THE COP DOES NOT. Police were called there by a 911 dispatch. Their right to be there has been well established. The victims right to brandish deadly force in the presence of law enforcement officials responding to a call has not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78703378 United States 08/08/2020 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79240841 Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. How do you identify yourself while hiding out of view? Sounds like something a murderous would do. Oh wait they did. murderers They're cops you just have to trust that they are. Don't worry that you can't see them it's definitely not a criminal or cop sitting around the corner waiting to ambush and murder you. So basically if somebody knocks and claims to be a cop but hides from view don't answer it. Because if it's a cop they're going to murder you and if it's a criminal they're going to murder you. Are cops just government thugs and goons? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178057 United States 08/08/2020 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79022003 Exactly. And yes a burglar could never bang on the door and claim to be police. The amount of boot licking here is disgusting. These "Patriots" here fear the day 'democrats" come for their guns, then in the next breath endlessly defend the military and LEOs. Like who do they think is gonna come for their guns??? Pelosi and Schumer personally?? As soon as he jumped (rather aggressively) into the hallway with an unholstered (brandished) firearm, he broke the law and was viewed as a criminal with lethal capability, and an imminent threat. It's a shame how it ended up, but from the way I see it the cops followed protocol. I doubt any charges will stick. Pussy. Hopefully it's you next time. Dont try to protect your house. Just let anybody come knocking at your door at 2 in the morning. JUST COMPLY OR DIE. Knocking on someones door at 2:am is not illegal. Brandishing a firearm on public property (in the hallway) is. Do it in front of officers coming to investigate a possible domestic abuse situation and you might get shot over it. I hate how it turned out, and I think training by both could have prevented it. But the victim broke the law and was seen as an imminent threat with deadly force and intention (or why would it not be holstered) to use it. That observation was correct. It's a shame the victim didn't have time to explain himself, but when you brandish deadly force on public property time to explain yourself isn't guaranteed by US law, or the Constitution. The apartment complex is private property. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76422031 United States 08/08/2020 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76422031 Your opinion about who needs a gun doesn't track with my experience. Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. NO, they didn't. They claimed to be police. ANYONE can do that. Identifying yourself involves showing a badge and your with a number on it AND YOUR FACE, and giving the citizen time to confirm you are there on a call and are who you claim to be. All that is true, but it doesn't change the fact that the citizen was in a public hallway brandishing deadly force in the presence of law enforcement officials responding to a 911 call. That is very illegal. If he had just stayed on the other side of the threshold he would probably still be with us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78703378 United States 08/08/2020 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to reign these fuckers in Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79240841 Make it where every single time they put so much as a bruise on someone they get reviewed by an independent investigator made up of everyday citizens. Sounds good and the citizens should decide whether to file charges not crooked DA's and Judges. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78703378 United States 08/08/2020 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79240841 Mine neither. If you knock on my door at 2 in the morning and then hide from the peephole so I can't see you, you can bet your ass I am going to be armed. EVERY FUCKING TIME They identified themselves. Guy shouldnt have come out with a gun. NO, they didn't. They claimed to be police. ANYONE can do that. Identifying yourself involves showing a badge and your with a number on it AND YOUR FACE, and giving the citizen time to confirm you are there on a call and are who you claim to be. All that is true, but it doesn't change the fact that the citizen was in a public hallway brandishing deadly force in the presence of law enforcement officials responding to a 911 call. That is very illegal. If he had just stayed on the other side of the threshold he would probably still be with us. You're a sick fuck you know that? |
Gorgol
User ID: 77844744 Netherlands 08/08/2020 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So now it has come to: If the Police are at your door, better have people to cover both sides of the house in position before opening the door Or just 1 extra gunman from the window above Then you can indeed abolish cops, because you don't need them to begin with Killer cops create Anarchy Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79180292 United Kingdom 08/08/2020 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got the TV on or playing vids and there is a knock on the door chances are you will hear the knock but not hear them say police inside your apt behind at least one closed door. In any case anyone can say police to get you to open the door and force their way in at gunpoint. This guy was prepared for that but had no idea it was the police till he opened the door. The police had a bright flashlight in his face so he didnt see who it was till he stepped outside. THEN He went down on his knees with one hand in the air as they asked and they shot him dead |