BIBLE READ-THROUGH: Day 1 (GENESIS 1-28:22): Reflection and Discussion | |
Servant-of-the-LORD
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80440296 Ireland 07/23/2021 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject? Genesis 1 = God's creation Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject? Genesis 1 = God's creation Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3. That is an intentional lie. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself). Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject? Genesis 1 = God's creation Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3. That is an intentional lie. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself). Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34. Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve. If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God. |
One Still Voice
(OP) User ID: 79049233 Canada 07/23/2021 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ???? Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Where are you getting this "assessment" from? NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice". God TOLD them. They CHOSE to listen and obey. As I mentioned in the Reflection above, "In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go." Maybe if would be better for you to read the whole Reflection before jumping into the discussion. It only takes one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717 Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject? Genesis 1 = God's creation Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3. That is an intentional lie. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself). Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34. Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve. If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717 Genesis 1 = God's creation Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3. That is an intentional lie. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself). Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34. Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve. If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to biblehub.com (secure)] That verse results in an auto-ban, so look it up yourself. Notice that Jesus confesses to being a MAN and calls Abraham a liar. |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 67209765 United States 07/23/2021 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. God wasm't "mad" at Cain. He merely prefered Abel's offering. What translation are you reading? If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Free will. God spoke to Noah. He listened. But after getting back on dry land, things started to downhill pretty quickly. Did God speak to anyone right AFTER Noah? We don't really know. But it seems his kids had a "problem" in Believing in an "unseen God". I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717 Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3. That is an intentional lie. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself). Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34. Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve. If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to biblehub.com (secure)] That verse results in an auto-ban, so look it up yourself. Notice that Jesus confesses to being a MAN and calls Abraham a liar. why? Because God made MAN in his image. Genesis 1:26 Abraham dealt with a god outside himself. |
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Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 67209765 United States 07/23/2021 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ???? Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Where are you getting this "assessment" from? NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice". God TOLD them. They CHOSE to listen and obey. As I mentioned in the Reflection above, "In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go." Maybe if would be better for you to read the whole Reflection before jumping into the discussion. The "header" of "Moving is Survival" is misleading. Maybe YOU need to rethink how to "summarize" a section. Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 07/23/2021 01:51 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Servant-of-the-LORD
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77853717 United States 07/23/2021 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717 Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve. If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to biblehub.com (secure)] That verse results in an auto-ban, so look it up yourself. Notice that Jesus confesses to being a MAN and calls Abraham a liar. why? Because God made MAN in his image. Genesis 1:26 Abraham dealt with a god outside himself. Game, set, match. |
One Still Voice
(OP) User ID: 79049233 Canada 07/23/2021 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? Those are good questions, but I'm not your teacher. I'm just an organizer. If you have trouble understanding why God did what he did, then you should ask him yourself. However, I would hazard a guess that Cain didn't offer up his sacrifice with a clean and willing heart, which God (as a reader of hearts) knew. This was then demonstrated when Cain got angry with God instead of accepting he'd done wrong and trying to do better next time. If Cain's heart had been right towards God, he would have accepted correction, but he got angry instead and then made things exponentially worse by killing his brother out of jealousy and rage. God's judgement was just in this case, as it was and is in all cases. As for why evil returned after the flood, God knew it was part and parcel of man (see Genesis 8:21-22). As long as there's free will, there will be those who choose evil. It only takes one. |
One Still Voice
(OP) User ID: 79049233 Canada 07/23/2021 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ???? Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Where are you getting this "assessment" from? NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice". God TOLD them. They CHOSE to listen and obey. As I mentioned in the Reflection above, "In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go." Maybe if would be better for you to read the whole Reflection before jumping into the discussion. The "header" of "Moving is Survival" is misleading. Maybe YOU need to rethink how to "summarize" a section. No, moving is survival. All those who left when told to leave, survived. All those who didn't, didn't survive. It only takes one. |
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One Still Voice
(OP) User ID: 79049233 Canada 07/23/2021 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but I like to think of them as "prayer targets". The way they out themselves makes them easy targets for our prayers. They've been warned! We're praying for them whether they want us to or not! Just try to stop us! lol It only takes one. |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 67209765 United States 07/23/2021 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, moving is survival. All those who left when told to leave, survived. All those who didn't, didn't survive. Quoting: One Still Voice You just don't seem to get it. Obedience to God is the issue. NOT "moving". No one died after Adam and Eve moved. No one died after Abraham left Ur. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
StellaBlue
User ID: 4104364 United States 07/23/2021 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ultimately OBEDIENCE is survival. When God tells you to stay or go, listen and obey. Good thread, 5 stars It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. -Psalm 118:8 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper. -Isaiah 54:17 If I disappear from this forum, aliens didn't take me- Jesus did! Give your heart to him today! |
One Still Voice
(OP) User ID: 79049233 Canada 07/23/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, moving is survival. All those who left when told to leave, survived. All those who didn't, didn't survive. Quoting: One Still Voice You just don't seem to get it. Obedience to God is the issue. NOT "moving". No one died after Adam and Eve moved. No one died after Abraham left Ur. I'm talking about spiritual survival as well as physical survival. And I'm talking about survival of the lineage. Those who moved on when God told them to move on had their lineage survive (in fact, to this day). Why are you so defiant? This is a discussion, not a war. It only takes one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78324100 United States 07/23/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the thread OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296 Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it. If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.? Are you illiteratw, stupid, or intentionally deceptive? (Rhetorical question of course.) God had nothing to do with cain or able. That was the LORD God's creation, A.K.A. satan. |
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One Still Voice
(OP) User ID: 79049233 Canada 07/23/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ultimately OBEDIENCE is survival. Quoting: StellaBlue When God tells you to stay or go, listen and obey. Good thread, 5 stars Yes, absolutely, obedience, but in every case in this reading and in the readings to come, obedience almost always involves moving (leaving where you are and going some place else, even if you don't want to go). Leaving where you are and going someplace you don't particularly want to go but doing it out of obedience is a test of your obedience. The physical act of moving/leaving is equally as important as signalling obedience. Many say they're going to do something, but when it comes time to do it, they find excuses not to. Obedience almost always involves a physical aspect. By doing the physical aspect, the obedience is affirmed. As Jesus mentions later: Which son did his father's will -- the one who said he was going to do something and then didn't do it, or the one who said he wouldn't do it, but later changed his mind and did it? Last Edited by One Still Voice on 07/23/2021 02:15 PM It only takes one. |
StellaBlue
User ID: 4104364 United States 07/23/2021 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enjoy your laughter now. God will not be mocked. It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. -Psalm 118:8 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper. -Isaiah 54:17 If I disappear from this forum, aliens didn't take me- Jesus did! Give your heart to him today! |
One Still Voice
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