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BIBLE READ-THROUGH: Day 1 (GENESIS 1-28:22): Reflection and Discussion

 
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Three main themes emerge from today’s reading that remain constant throughout the Bible. These themes are established in the early chapters of the Old Testament and continue all the way to the end of the New Testament. The three main themes are: 1) moving is survival; 2) good rewards for obedience to God, bad rewards for disobedience to God; and 3) establishing a personal relationship with God.

1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL

As can be seen in the first reading already, moving equates with survival. Adam and Eve move from the Garden of Eden and survive; Noah moves from his home onto the Ark and survives; Abraham moves from his home in Ur and survives; Lot moves from his home in Sodom and survives, and so on. In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go. They move, they survive; they don’t move, they don’t survive. There is a constant motion of leaving behind the old (like a shedding) and moving towards the new.

Again, this theme of moving to survive permeates the Bible, as you’ll see over the next 39 readings.

2. GOOD/BAD REWARDS FOR OBEDIENCE/DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD

Another constant theme throughout the Bible that’s established in the first reading is rewards – good rewards for obedience to God, and bad rewards for disobedience to him. Noah, Abraham, and Lot are all rewarded with good outcomes for their obedience, while Adam and Eve are rewarded with the bad outcome of expulsion and loss of personal relationship with God. This theme of good rewards for obedience and bad rewards for disobedience is a primary theme throughout scripture and in in fact one of the driving forces that motivates God’s people.

3. ESTABLISHING A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

All of the major figures in the first reading knew God personally. He wasn’t somewhere “up there”, he was walking side-by-side with them in the Garden (Adam and Eve) or having conversations with them about their next steps (Noah, Abraham, and Isaac). Having a personal relationship with God is, in fact, one of the rewards for obedience, and we see it being removed after a certain degree of disobedience (Adam and Eve).

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Other themes are also established in this reading, such as the God’s unswerving protection of his people (his people being those who are loyal to him). What themes did you notice? How do those themes and the ones listed above personally affect you in your everyday life and your relationship with God? And how do you think they might serve as a tool for you in the dark days to come?

Feel free to discuss with each other below.

I've also posted this on my blog, for those who want to continue the discussion there.

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"1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ????

Where are you getting this "assessment" from?

NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice".

God TOLD them.

They CHOSE to listen and obey.
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296


Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Genesis 1 = God's creation

Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296


Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Genesis 1 = God's creation

Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3.

That is an intentional lie.

Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself).

Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34.
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296


Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Genesis 1 = God's creation

Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3.

That is an intentional lie.

Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself).

Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717




Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve.

If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God.
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"1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ????

Where are you getting this "assessment" from?

NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice".

God TOLD them.

They CHOSE to listen and obey.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


As I mentioned in the Reflection above, "In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go."

Maybe if would be better for you to read the whole Reflection before jumping into the discussion.
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Fuck your Bible.

The paper is not even good for whipping ass. At least the Koran is two ply.
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Just like your constitution.

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Are you an idiot, illiterate, or just intentionally ignoring Genesis 1, which is the subject?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Genesis 1 = God's creation

Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3.

That is an intentional lie.

Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself).

Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717




Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve.

If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


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hesright
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Genesis 1 = God's creation

Genesis 2 and everything thereafter = the LORD God's creation A.K.A. Satan's creation

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3.

That is an intentional lie.

Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself).

Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717




Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve.

If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


[link to biblehub.com (secure)]

That verse results in an auto-ban, so look it up yourself.

Notice that Jesus confesses to being a MAN and calls Abraham a liar.
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296

God wasm't "mad" at Cain.
He merely prefered Abel's offering.
What translation are you reading?

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296


Free will.
God spoke to Noah.
He listened.
But after getting back on dry land, things
started to downhill pretty quickly.

Did God speak to anyone right AFTER Noah?
We don't really know.
But it seems his kids had a "problem"
in Believing in an "unseen God".
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Take note that the God of Genesis 1 actually rests in Genesis 2:1-3.

That is an intentional lie.

Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two different creation accounts (compare them yourself).

Therefore, Genesis 2:1-3 should correctly be Genesis 1:32-34.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717




Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve.

If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


[link to biblehub.com (secure)]

That verse results in an auto-ban, so look it up yourself.

Notice that Jesus confesses to being a MAN and calls Abraham a liar.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


why?

Because God made MAN in his image.

Genesis 1:26

Abraham dealt with a god outside himself.
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blahblah
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Liar.
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"1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ????

Where are you getting this "assessment" from?

NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice".

God TOLD them.

They CHOSE to listen and obey.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


As I mentioned in the Reflection above, "In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go."

Maybe if would be better for you to read the whole Reflection before jumping into the discussion.
 Quoting: One Still Voice

The "header" of "Moving is Survival" is misleading.

Maybe YOU need to rethink how to "summarize" a section.

1doh1

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blahblah
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Liar.
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Where's your scriptural PROOF
that I'm wrong?

You ain't got none. dumbass
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Once you understand that they are two Seperate creation accounts, then you understand why you must choose which God you will serve.

If you are a citizen of a nation, you chose the LORD God.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


[link to biblehub.com (secure)]

That verse results in an auto-ban, so look it up yourself.

Notice that Jesus confesses to being a MAN and calls Abraham a liar.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


why?

Because God made MAN in his image.

Genesis 1:26

Abraham dealt with a god outside himself.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77853717


Game, set, match.
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296


Those are good questions, but I'm not your teacher. I'm just an organizer.

If you have trouble understanding why God did what he did, then you should ask him yourself.

However, I would hazard a guess that Cain didn't offer up his sacrifice with a clean and willing heart, which God (as a reader of hearts) knew. This was then demonstrated when Cain got angry with God instead of accepting he'd done wrong and trying to do better next time. If Cain's heart had been right towards God, he would have accepted correction, but he got angry instead and then made things exponentially worse by killing his brother out of jealousy and rage.

God's judgement was just in this case, as it was and is in all cases.

As for why evil returned after the flood, God knew it was part and parcel of man (see Genesis 8:21-22). As long as there's free will, there will be those who choose evil.
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"1. MOVING IS SURVIVAL" ????

Where are you getting this "assessment" from?

NONE of them made the "moves" by their own "choice".

God TOLD them.

They CHOSE to listen and obey.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


As I mentioned in the Reflection above, "In every case, God prods his people to move, even if they don’t want to go."

Maybe if would be better for you to read the whole Reflection before jumping into the discussion.
 Quoting: One Still Voice

The "header" of "Moving is Survival" is misleading.

Maybe YOU need to rethink how to "summarize" a section.

1doh1
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


No, moving is survival. All those who left when told to leave, survived. All those who didn't, didn't survive.
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Demons infesting this thread, interesting.
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Demons infesting this thread, interesting.
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Yes, but I like to think of them as "prayer targets".

The way they out themselves makes them easy targets for our prayers.

They've been warned!

We're praying for them whether they want us to or not!

Just try to stop us! lol hf
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No, moving is survival. All those who left when told to leave, survived. All those who didn't, didn't survive.
 Quoting: One Still Voice

You just don't seem to get it.

Obedience to God is the issue.
NOT "moving".

No one died after Adam and Eve moved.
No one died after Abraham left Ur.
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Ultimately OBEDIENCE is survival.

When God tells you to stay or go, listen and obey.

Good thread, 5 stars

hf
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No, moving is survival. All those who left when told to leave, survived. All those who didn't, didn't survive.
 Quoting: One Still Voice

You just don't seem to get it.

Obedience to God is the issue.
NOT "moving".

No one died after Adam and Eve moved.
No one died after Abraham left Ur.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


I'm talking about spiritual survival as well as physical survival.

And I'm talking about survival of the lineage.

Those who moved on when God told them to move on had their lineage survive (in fact, to this day).

Why are you so defiant?

This is a discussion, not a war.
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Thanks for the thread OP

Have some questions. So God is mad at Cain’s gifts, but please with Abel. As Cain tilled the land he brought the gifts he could. So how is it his fault and why is God mad at him. Obviously, deeper message here but I am not understanding it.

If God only kept a the good seed (Noah and al). And wiped out all the evil, how did the post flood world so quickly become evil.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80440296

blahblah
 Quoting: One Still Voice


Are you illiteratw, stupid, or intentionally deceptive? (Rhetorical question of course.)

God had nothing to do with cain or able.

That was the LORD God's creation, A.K.A. satan.

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Demons infesting this thread, interesting.
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If you cannot cast them out, what does that make you?
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Demons infesting this thread, interesting.
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If you cannot cast them out, what does that make you?
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Ultimately OBEDIENCE is survival.

When God tells you to stay or go, listen and obey.

Good thread, 5 stars

hf
 Quoting: StellaBlue


Yes, absolutely, obedience, but in every case in this reading and in the readings to come, obedience almost always involves moving (leaving where you are and going some place else, even if you don't want to go).

Leaving where you are and going someplace you don't particularly want to go but doing it out of obedience is a test of your obedience.

The physical act of moving/leaving is equally as important as signalling obedience. Many say they're going to do something, but when it comes time to do it, they find excuses not to.

Obedience almost always involves a physical aspect. By doing the physical aspect, the obedience is affirmed.

As Jesus mentions later: Which son did his father's will -- the one who said he was going to do something and then didn't do it, or the one who said he wouldn't do it, but later changed his mind and did it?

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Enjoy your laughter now.

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Demons infesting this thread, interesting.
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If you cannot cast them out, what does that make you?
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You don't cast demons out of thread. You ban them.

But frankly, I'd rather have you here and let you out yourselves so that we can pray for you.

Consider yourself prayed for! hf
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Demons infesting this thread, interesting.
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers


If you cannot cast them out, what does that make you?
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You don't cast demons out of thread. You ban them.
 Quoting: One Still Voice


Impotent you are.

Jesus is not on your side.





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