Just found out Daughter and Son in law did not pay rent for 1 year!!!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73379359 United States 08/01/2021 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Just wow… Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008456 I’m interested to hear why. I want them to admit why. Then if it was because they bought other things, I’d start taking them away. Idk, that’s so tough. Living in an apartment and not paying rent just because has got to be the most liberal thing I’ve ever seen. Curious, did they vote for Biden? They saw an opportunity and took it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80383054 United States 08/01/2021 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She might hate you and not speak to you forever, but if kicking her out to wake them up means her life to be straightened out, then yes, kick her out. You are doing her zero good and lots of bad by allowing her to stay there. You are not being a parent by allowing her to do this. No parent should ever allow their kid to stay in there place in that situation. They need to grow up, and it seems like you do too. Quoting: End Game . Absolutely this ^^^. And the rest of society will pay the price for her parents not raising their daughter correctly because she will continue without lessons, proper values or strong moral character. The landlord is only one in what could be a long line of victims is she's enabled to steal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5184682 United States 08/01/2021 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are both young, early twenties. They just came over and asked if they could move in for a few months so they could save money. I asked why they did not pay their rent for a year? They both work. They could not give me a straight answer. They both looked ashamed and promised they would stay only a few months. Mind you neither one of them lost their job or became unemployed due to covid. I am so pissed off at them. Quoting: Nojab Landlord came to them on Friday and handed them a 30 day notice. They live in a 100 unit apartment complex. Landlord had 67.....30 day notices to hand out. My husband caved and is letting them stay. What would you have done in this situation? Let them be homeless? I just can’t do that to my daughter. Do they realize they'll be sued for the back rent? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80672057 United States 08/01/2021 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not everyone suffers from having a Cluster B personality disorder. I get the feeling if you have children, they probably want little to nothing to do with you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80672057 It is sickening how individuals like yourself, infiltrate places like these, to spread your sick mindset. Any parent that can leave one of their children homeless, doesn't deserve to exist, and will swiftly cease to exist from their offspring's life. Tough love is neither tough nor is it love, 99% of the time. People like you love to preach it, to coverup and excuse being a shitty human being without empathy or natural affection. Genuine tough love, is when a loved one is so destructive towards themselves and everyone else around them, that a person has no other choice. Think of the daughter. You honestly think OP should care more about a stranger then their own flesh and blood? I'm not the person to whom you were responding, but I must respond to you: FFS, if the parents genuinely cared about their daughter, they wouldn't have raised her to be a thief. She would be responsible and accountable with a strong character and strong values. It is you and those like you who are raising stuck-in-toddler, entitled, no responsibility, blame others, thieving/using others for self gain/exploitative, deficient in remorse children, many of whom are, indeed, Cluster B. Your mindset demonstrates you are an enabler not a teacher. Anyone who enables is fully harming, not helping, the loved one. . Quoting format correction. ^^ Nice try at narcissistic deflection and projection. Leaving a "loved one" to become homeless to "teach them a lesson", is beyond evil and an act that should never be forgiven. OP can take the time to make sure the daughter and son in law learn good budgeting and how to live within their means, but your just trying to promote psychopathic/anti-social values. Your like a well to do parent that decides their child needs to learn "responsibility", by refusing to contribute to their educational expenses. You can try to turn this around with your typical DARVO bullshit, but there is zero way you can argue your point as your point is in essence dead on arrival to people capable of any degree of empathy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80383054 United States 08/01/2021 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A stark sign of the times. Quoting: Loup Garou ZERO responsibility ZERO consequences ZERO remorse ZERO effort to make restitutions ZERO effort on their part and YOU are enabling this BAD behavior. This is the ZERO GENERATION.. nothing, zero, zilch. Garbage in... garbage out -0_ And the wheel goes round and round.... And 100% BAD PARENTING. Yep and these adult children will do the same. . Sounds more like the kids were simply reflecting the monetary system of the time How about 100% BAD econ Nope. Strong character is at the core of a person. Rarely does it situationally change especially when the environment changes because it is the behavior under difficult conditions that determine one's conviction of character and principles. Bad parenting and no moral character in children...and in this case parental enablers of theft. . . |
wkk
User ID: 80688329 United States 08/01/2021 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please please please, as another parent and mother, I know we adore and love our kids and want to help them, BUT, enabling bad behavior is terrible for them! Quoting: AgapeTruth By rewarding wrong and bad behavior, they will not learn at all and that is wrong on the parent. Can't blame our kids for not taking responsibility, if we reward them for it by giving them comforts and not letting them learn from their errors. Enabling is harming them and that's on us as bad parenting. So if they continue this and take advantage of you next, it's not their fault anymore. At least you know that by enabling, it's a contribution to their shortcomings and not a way to help stop them. Shut UP! Scumbags like you, highly toxic narcissists, have been giving bad advice for over a century causing immeasurable harm to society. No wonder on the survivors of narcissism forums, the Right Wing is getting a bad wrap. To say what you have said, you do not understand, nor are capable of feeling genuine love. Your a malignant monster, that isn't even really a human being, as you lack a heart. Any parent should be overjoyed with the extended close time they get to spend with their children(while saddened that their children are struggling). It is really disgusting how you try and hide your venom, and wickedness behind being a "caring" and "responsible" "person". Truly degusting behavior, and you may have been a surrogate, but you don't get to call yourself a mother, if you let your children become homeless to "teach a lesson". YOu are such a harsh person. Even if you disagreed with the poster that you responded to, they spoke with their opinion and with a purpose. You spewed hate, not them. I dare say you have not had grown kids?? Maybe??? The thing is we all love our kids and want the best for them. We show that with different expectations and forms of love. But most parents do not really crave their grown kids moving back in. If they do, maybe it is the parents that need to take a look at their lives. Empty nest is a terrible feeling---but a worse feeling is looking at your helpless kids refuse to become the whole, responsible person they should be. I would go so far as to say that families can live in extended forms and together--but they need to do it as adults---not just because the kids stole money from the landlord. Circumstances matter. wkk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80429525 United States 08/01/2021 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allot of triggered enablers here. Sorry you haven't grown up. That's not our fault. Look in the mirror and grow up. That's all right. Just takes a long time to mature into adults and stop using emotions in the decision making process rather than a wise mind. The parents will learn in due time that enabling will come to back in full circle when they kids won't leave or can't leave due to now terrible incoming credit. Believe you me, I know allot of people like them. They know exactly what they are doing and they know exactly who to go to. They know who will enable them. They know whose boundaries they can cross and who they can't take advantage of. There are NO victims here, only volunteers. |
Catnahalf
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79387251 United States 08/01/2021 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A stark sign of the times. Quoting: Loup Garou ZERO responsibility ZERO consequences ZERO remorse ZERO effort to make restitutions ZERO effort on their part and YOU are enabling this BAD behavior. This is the ZERO GENERATION.. nothing, zero, zilch. Garbage in... garbage out -0_ And the wheel goes round and round.... And 100% BAD PARENTING. Yep and these adult children will do the same. . Sounds more like the kids were simply reflecting the monetary system of the time How about 100% BAD econ I guess you're just trained to always deflect blame onto someone or something else. Another sign of the times. Newsflash: Neither of them lost their jobs, so they had the same income they did before the COVID crap started. They just chose to not pay their rent because they could. Nah, just want to point out there is a bigger picture— I have no idea the true circumstances of the kids. Not deflecting blame, Just reflecting on the forces that are out there dividing us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80429525 United States 08/01/2021 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please please please, as another parent and mother, I know we adore and love our kids and want to help them, BUT, enabling bad behavior is terrible for them! Quoting: AgapeTruth By rewarding wrong and bad behavior, they will not learn at all and that is wrong on the parent. Can't blame our kids for not taking responsibility, if we reward them for it by giving them comforts and not letting them learn from their errors. Enabling is harming them and that's on us as bad parenting. So if they continue this and take advantage of you next, it's not their fault anymore. At least you know that by enabling, it's a contribution to their shortcomings and not a way to help stop them. Shut UP! Scumbags like you, highly toxic narcissists, have been giving bad advice for over a century causing immeasurable harm to society. No wonder on the survivors of narcissism forums, the Right Wing is getting a bad wrap. To say what you have said, you do not understand, nor are capable of feeling genuine love. Your a malignant monster, that isn't even really a human being, as you lack a heart. Any parent should be overjoyed with the extended close time they get to spend with their children(while saddened that their children are struggling). It is really disgusting how you try and hide your venom, and wickedness behind being a "caring" and "responsible" "person". Truly degusting behavior, and you may have been a surrogate, but you don't get to call yourself a mother, if you let your children become homeless to "teach a lesson". YOu are such a harsh person. Even if you disagreed with the poster that you responded to, they spoke with their opinion and with a purpose. You spewed hate, not them. I dare say you have not had grown kids?? Maybe??? The thing is we all love our kids and want the best for them. We show that with different expectations and forms of love. But most parents do not really crave their grown kids moving back in. If they do, maybe it is the parents that need to take a look at their lives. Empty nest is a terrible feeling---but a worse feeling is looking at your helpless kids refuse to become the whole, responsible person they should be. I would go so far as to say that families can live in extended forms and together--but they need to do it as adults---not just because the kids stole money from the landlord. Circumstances matter. wkk. I usually don't respond to abusive posts or personal attacks. Allot of those people are very mentally deranged and unstable. Hence why they have a breakdown after being triggered. I usually just ignore them, they want an emotional response from us. |
wkk
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79897493 United States 08/01/2021 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are both young, early twenties. They just came over and asked if they could move in for a few months so they could save money. I asked why they did not pay their rent for a year? They both work. They could not give me a straight answer. They both looked ashamed and promised they would stay only a few months. Mind you neither one of them lost their job or became unemployed due to covid. I am so pissed off at them. Quoting: Nojab Landlord came to them on Friday and handed them a 30 day notice. They live in a 100 unit apartment complex. Landlord had 67.....30 day notices to hand out. My husband caved and is letting them stay. What would you have done in this situation? Let them be homeless? I just can’t do that to my daughter. I'm worried that you said 67 out of 100. What market is this? |
LameDame
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80405756 United States 08/01/2021 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She might hate you and not speak to you forever, but if kicking her out to wake them up means her life to be straightened out, then yes, kick her out. You are doing her zero good and lots of bad by allowing her to stay there. You are not being a parent by allowing her to do this. No parent should ever allow their kid to stay in there place in that situation. They need to grow up, and it seems like you do too. Quoting: End Game . Absolutely this ^^^. And the rest of society will pay the price for her parents not raising their daughter correctly because she will continue without lessons, proper values or strong moral character. The landlord is only one in what could be a long line of victims is she's enabled to steal. AND THEN SHE WILL MAKE YOU GRANDPARENTS AND CPS WILL TAKE THE KID BECAUSE THEY LACK THE SKILLS TO PROVIDE FOR AN INFANT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80383054 United States 08/01/2021 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice try at narcissistic deflection and projection. Leaving a "loved one" to become homeless to "teach them a lesson", is beyond evil and an act that should never be forgiven. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80672057 OP can take the time to make sure the daughter and son in law learn good budgeting and how to live within their means, but your just trying to promote psychopathic/anti-social values. Your like a well to do parent that decides their child needs to learn "responsibility", by refusing to contribute to their educational expenses. You can try to turn this around with your typical DARVO bullshit, but there is zero way you can argue your point as your point is in essence dead on arrival to people capable of any degree of empathy. Oh stop your terminology pitching when it's clear you have absolutely no idea the subject you are discussing other than perhaps what you've learned after being abused by a Cluster B. In fact, you present as having lingering and unresolved issues in this area because you are so focused in labeling and terminology use. You see it all around you where it's simply not there. Regarding the parenting, enabling a child to steal is not parenting just as enabling a child to continue drug addiction is not parenting. Enabling and reinforcing bad behavior in a child is not parenting. Ever. And, had they properly parented when her child was developing, then the parents wouldn't be in this situation and neither would the daughter. I guarantee if the parents lovingly refused to allow the stuck-in-toddler daughter to move in, she and her husband would find other accommodations, which is a lesson they both need to learn now. The character should have been taught in childhood, but since it was not, it should be taught now. Enabling is harm not assistance. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80608675 Canada 08/01/2021 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are both young, early twenties. They just came over and asked if they could move in for a few months so they could save money. I asked why they did not pay their rent for a year? They both work. They could not give me a straight answer. They both looked ashamed and promised they would stay only a few months. Mind you neither one of them lost their job or became unemployed due to covid. I am so pissed off at them. Quoting: Nojab Landlord came to them on Friday and handed them a 30 day notice. They live in a 100 unit apartment complex. Landlord had 67.....30 day notices to hand out. My husband caved and is letting them stay. What would you have done in this situation? Let them be homeless? I just can’t do that to my daughter. They actively chose not to pay rent for no good reason at all. I wouldnt have let them come back. If they dont have the respect to pay, they wont respect you either. It would be a different story if they were both broke, unemployed, and simply down on their luck. Thats very different. But to chose not to pay rent for the hell of it. Thats just shitty, entitled attitudes. |
LameDame
User ID: 80688686 United States 08/01/2021 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She might hate you and not speak to you forever, but if kicking her out to wake them up means her life to be straightened out, then yes, kick her out. You are doing her zero good and lots of bad by allowing her to stay there. You are not being a parent by allowing her to do this. No parent should ever allow their kid to stay in there place in that situation. They need to grow up, and it seems like you do too. Quoting: End Game . Absolutely this ^^^. And the rest of society will pay the price for her parents not raising their daughter correctly because she will continue without lessons, proper values or strong moral character. The landlord is only one in what could be a long line of victims is she's enabled to steal. Honest people rarely get ahead. I hate to say it, I am not encouraging dishonesty. Can just tell you from personal experience. Sad but true. At least I am old and won't have to be here much longer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75488052 United States 08/01/2021 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the expiration JUST ran out and landlord is ON IT??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75488052 Really??? This fast??? WE HAVEN'T BEEN PAID RENT IN OVER A YEAR. I PUT NOTICES ON DOORS AT 12:01AM. Whatever!!!! I lived beside renters for YEARS! It takes an insane amount of time to get them OUT!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77882774 United States 08/01/2021 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would never tell my kids they would have to live to the street. I do get my adult son to help with the bills. I would only have a problem if they refused to work and didn't help with at least some of the cost of living. Quoting: Millstone THIS. I don't have children but if I did, I couldn't have them live on the streets, especially the way times are now. BUT they would definitely have to contribute, whether financially or doing chores etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80383054 United States 08/01/2021 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honest people rarely get ahead. I hate to say it, I am not encouraging dishonesty. Can just tell you from personal experience. Sad but true. At least I am old and won't have to be here much longer. Quoting: LameDame But your soul is intact, and that's what's important. It's also what allows those with the full traits of humanity to sleep at night. . |
Moonflwr0704
User ID: 79155488 United States 08/01/2021 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m sadly going through this with my adult grown kids who chose to do everything under the sun with their money, other than pay rent. They called and wanted to move back with small children and pets. It 1000% broke my heart to say no. But I wasn’t the one who chose to do this. My bills are paid on my very small income. I honestly believe if I give in now, they will have learned absolutely nothing. Again it’s heartbreaking but they have literally had the income x3 of myself and I didn’t raise them like this. It’s time they are reminded of that |
mgidaraPderorriM
User ID: 57172992 United States 08/01/2021 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I agree that their leeching and sociopathic use of a bad situation is immoral, it shows intelligence and initiative. Maybe they'll be the new Adam and Eve left standing after the shot and ensuing chaos all settles down. Questions are good. Answers may not be. |
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