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If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus.

 
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If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus.
If people who currently claim to be Christians actually took the time to read the New Testament and actually listened to Jesus and what he taught there would be very few willing to follow Him. Jesus said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross, be willing to leave behind your riches, family, friends, and be willing to die for Him tomorrow. If you follow Jesus, you will have to suffer. All this feel good crap taught in Christian churches is just to boost attendance and raise money for whatever the church feels fit. If they taught what it really means to follow Christ most of the churches would be empty on Sunday.

A follower of Jesus must be willing to let go of:

Earthly security.

Earthly Ties.

and
Earthly distractions.

If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus. You are only in it for self serving reasons. If loving/helping others is not keeping you from doing the things you want to do in you life, then you are not doing nearly enough. Jesus sacrificed his life for us and suffered tremendously before it was taken. Surely Christians can sacrifice some of their worldly possessions and desires for our brothers and sisters.

There are so many false prophets preaching this feel good gospel by cherry picking verses about how grand your life will be if you accept Jesus as your savior when in reality, your life will in all likelihood take a turn for the worse if you choose to do so. It depends on if the individual takes the teachings of Jesus seriously or if they conform to the ways of the world as most do.

You will have to suffer in this life if you decide to be a follower of Jesus. While we will all fall short, I dare any of you on this forum to take the words of Jesus seriously. Even if you only do a half ass job you will make a difference in the world.

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If people who currently claim to be Christians actually took the time to read the New Testament and actually listened to Jesus and what he taught there would be very few willing to follow Him. Jesus said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross, be willing to leave behind your riches, family, friends, and be willing to die for Him tomorrow. If you follow Jesus, you will have to suffer. All this feel good crap taught in Christian churches is just to boost attendance and raise money for whatever the church feels fit. If they taught what it really means to follow Christ most of the churches would be empty on Sunday.

A follower of Jesus must be willing to let go of:

Earthly security.

Earthly Ties.

and
Earthly distractions.

If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus. You are only in it for self serving reasons. If loving/helping others is not keeping you from doing the things you want to do in you life, then you are not doing nearly enough. Jesus sacrificed his life for us and suffered tremendously before it was taken. Surely Christians can sacrifice some of their worldly possessions and desires for our brothers and sisters.

There are so many false prophets preaching this feel good gospel by cherry picking verses about how grand your life will be if you accept Jesus as your savior when in reality, your life will in all likelihood take a turn for the worse if you choose to do so. It depends on if the individual takes the teachings of Jesus seriously or if they conform to the ways of the world as most do.

You will have to suffer in this life if you decide to be a follower of Jesus. While we will all fall short, I dare any of you on this forum to take the words of Jesus seriously. Even if you only do a half ass job you will make a difference in the world.
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The modern Christian

1)First ya have to say a sinners prayer.

2)Then you have to go to church three times a week(At least)..each time giving ten percent of whats in your wallet to the fat dude up the front who drives luxury cars and lives in a mansion.

3)Then you have to learn to hate everyone else thats NOT a fundie seeing them as doomed and not worth your trouble to love or help or feed..as ALL your time and money gets dedicated to the fat greedy pastor up the front..

4)After a while you have to learn to HATE all other fundies or denominations with a PASSION and see THEM as wrong and DOOMED as well..if they so much as disagree with your denominations view on what day to worship..or what to eat..or the rapture debate..or even if adam had a belly button. (Ive seen churches coime apart over this..seriously)

5)You also must LOOK like the world...dress like the world..act like the world...set your church up to look like a rock concert hall..and fornicate and divorce and sleep around with all the women in the church..all the while condemning others of the world who do this. In short..you have to be as CLOSE as possible to what the world IS..but EXCUSE all your "Sins" with the "Im not perfect..just forgiven CRAP"

After doing all of this..THEN..you just might..according to THEM..be worthy of heaven.

THEN...if you do what THEY do (FORGET what they SAY..if you DO what THEY do)..you will feel offended by simple truths like this....

I remember reading in there somewhere where Jesus was having trouble with the puffed up pharisees..who JUST like todays modern so called "Christians"..were giving him a hard time over “doctrinal” issues..and he said to them..something like..

"The drunkards and the prostitutes and the tax men swindlers will get into the kingdom before you."

From what I can ascertain from it..its the ORDINARY "Sinners" who Jesus was referring to who would be more WORTHY of the kingdom then the pharisitical religious ones of the day.

I suppose its because its better to be an HONEST sinner than a DISHONEST lying saint in the end.

God will save according to whats on the heart..ACCORDING to the bible..JESUS own words..yep..he SAID it...

Something about sheep and goats...one lot GAVE a toss about others...and another lot DID NOT..

It said NOTHING about "Did you say a prayer and accept Jesus into you heart"..THAT rubbish aint even IN the Bible..id LOVE to know where they got the "Sinners prayer" GARBAGE from..cause it just aint IN there.

NO..from what JESUS himself actually SAID...its sheep..or its GOATS..right?..and WHAT was the DIFFERENCE between these sheep and goats??

ON the surface..NO difference..BOTH lots claimed "Salvation"....and BOTH used his name..and did miracles..and this and that IN Jesus name..

..so WHY were ONE lot sheep..and the OTHER lot GOATS?????

BECAUSE..ONE lot was UNSELFISH..CARING..VISITED POOR DUDES IN PRISON..CLOTHED THE NAKED...GAVE TO THE POOR AND NEEDY..AND ASKED NOTHING IN RETURN..they were HUMBLE..and POLITE and full of LOVE.

The GOATS..SAID all the "RIGHT" words...they SPOKE the LINGO..but they just DID NOT GIVE a FLYING @&^$ about ANYONE but themselves. They spent their time debating and arguing and BEING WRONG..YEAR AFTER YEAR..and they did NOT feed anyone..or do any GOOD for anyone..they just DID NOT CARE about ANYone but THEMSELVES...

And if these goats DID do something..cause they all said something like "But Lord..we did many miracles in your name..and cast out demons and stuff..AD NAUSEUM.."

They did it FOR SELFISH GAIN..to be NOTICED....or to make LOTS OF MONEY from MOVIES and BOOKS and NEW AGE GARBAGE like the "LEFT BEHIND" series which made MILLIONS..while the poor and the needy STARVED AND DIED!..they have ZERO Love..ZERO humility..and STUFF ALL COURAGE...they IGNORE the POOR..live in multi million dollar MANSIONS.

While SO many are STARVING..NEW AGE WOLVES like COPELAND and HINN and DUPLANTIS and that DOLLAR viper..live like KINGS on the MONEY they BILKED AND CONNED out of the "NEW AGE SHEEP....who followed so BLINDLY that lakeland CRAP which was the EPITOME of UTTER HIPOCRISY...

What does Jesus say to these NEW AGE "BELIEVERS" EH???

DEPART from me ye WORKERS of utter GARBAGE AND LIES....cause I NEVER KNEW YOU...

Jesus said something about VOMITING these greedy self serving creatures out of his mouth.

Week after week you turn up..hand over all your money for new seats and screens and better air con..while the poor and the hungry just down the road STARVE!!!

While the fat assed pastor..fat gutted and lazy..preaches about FASTING??...and MORE money..and MORE money..for the never ending BUILDING program that all churches seem to have.

STUFF the poor..WHO CARES about the needy..and TOUGH LUCK for the people of the world..cause they are all gonna BURN right??

ALL YOU have to do is keep turning up with wallet OPEN..and BRAIN disengaged..to feed the never ending circle of NEW AGE EASY LISTENING FLESH PLEASING GARBAGE..GIVE to get...get PISSED on the holy spirit..ALWAYS about FEELING GOOD..SELF SELF SELF..always thinking of your SELF!!!

This lot ONLY care about what THEY can get..they dont give a flying *#$% about the hurting,,the needy...the downtrodden..you FLY IN THE FACE OF EVERYTHING JESUS EVER TAUGHT!!!

IN the name of MONEY!!!

MONEY and FEELINGS is their GOD!!!!

"BUt but..we give money to the poor"....they might say..

WHAT OF IT??

They DO it ONLY to win a few more BROWNIE POINTS...they DONT do it cause you really CARE!!!!..they do it ONLY so they have a better chance of being raptured..or getting some reward..or feeling better..or being blessed more..

THEYJUST DONT CARE!!!...and when they DO..its all a NEW AGE FEEL GOOD "BLESS ME BLESS ME" SHOW!!

They have turned the TRUTH into a way to FEEL GOOD..ESCAPE DOOM..and MAKE MONEY..and GET BLESSED!!!

THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING EXCEPT what THEY WANT to hear..and they KNOW ONLY WHAT THEY HEARD!!

They WILL ignore everything I am saying now FOR THIS REASON!!

They will READ this...and say "THATS NOT ME..I DONT DO THAT!!

Well...every time they walk into a church and open their wallets up..

THEY DO!!


THEY FEED THE MACHINE..the money making machine..IDOLATRY!!!!

WHEN will these new age easy road zero suffering fat lazy so called christians realise its NOT A GAME!!!

ITS NOT a "BLESS ME FEEL GOOD CLUB"

But thats how its TREATED.

I went to these churches,, ..for the last 40 years..ive seen em all slide into HELL..thinking they are OH so HOLY..and going to heaven.

WHAT JOKE its become...

And they will ALWAYS EXCUSE this with..

"WE ARE NOT PERFECT..JUST FORGIVEN"

WHAT a lot of GARBAGE,,a SELF justifying concience excusing load of UTTER CRAP!!


THEN....if you keep following along the same lines as the modern christian..the following rant will APPLY TO YOU TOO..wont that be great??...(Ill actually use SCRIPTURE to back this up..the words of JESUS HIMSELF...which MOST of them TOTALLY DISREGARD..cause they like to do their OWN thing WAY too much...

MATTHEW 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Yeah..this lot LOVES to preach a whole lot of HIPOCRITICAL CONDEMING SOUL TEARING MIND NUMBING CRAP which turns people AWAY from the TRUE way...with smooth deceptive words and well worded sermons designed to feed their WALLETS..and make MILLIONS from the endless LIES of TWISTED SCRIPTURE(The left behind movies and books)....

WHY wont they do what he SAYS?..They wont enter in THEMSELVES..and by their UTTERLY ABOMINABLE BEHAVIOUR AND EXAMPLE...no one ELSE wants to either because they LOOK at these pathetic easy living cowardly liars and think..RIGHTLY SO..that CHRISTIANS are NOTHING BUT A PACK OF ARGUING SELF CENTERED GREEDY ADULTEROUS LYING HYPOCRITES


14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Yeah..they just LOVE the OH SO HOLY prayers..babbling away in tongues and blaspheming the holy spirit with their UTTER ABOMINATIONS (Getting DRUNK on the holy spirit)..THIS according to THE BIBLE is what they do..USING something HOLY to make MONEY..is BLASHEMY..and using the holy spirit to promote your MONEY MAKING LIES is BLASPHEMY against the HOLY SPIRIT...ACCORDING to THEIR OWN BIBLE...they DO feed on widows houses..they rake in offerings year after year..from old widows who are too weak to resist the SNARES you set..SHAME on them...these pathetic LIFE destroying VIPERS!!

But wait,,,there is MORE.....

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Yeah..they do this too..seeking ever more victims...who start out as ordinary people...they prey on their fear..their terror..with stories of DOOM and HELLFIRE..you convert them..and then turn THEM TOO..into the SAME brand of UTTER HIPOCRITES AS THEM!!!

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Yeah,,they LOVE to rake ya tithes in dont they??..they ONLY pay it to get BLESSED..its all based on GREED and SELFISHNESS.IF they really GAVE a toss about anyone but themselves..they would GIVE that money to the POOR and the HUNGRY..BUT NO..they give it to these SWINDLERS to put new STAGES and SCREENS in their churches..to buy in the latest christian ROCK BAND..so they can ACT just like the WORLD they always CONDEMN....


BUT the list of your SHAME goes ON..(I could write a BOOK on their long trail of HIPOCRISY..)

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Yeah..they LOVE to turn up to church..all spiffy looking..all smiles...but within its all pure HELL..as they battle with the FACADE..hoping the REAL human they are deep inside does not SHOW..as they battle with LUST and ANGER..and HATE..and all the while jealousy and envy grows..and greed..and slander....while church after church falls apart as minister after minister is caught YET again with their cock frimly planted in the vagina of a woman who is NOT THEIRS...HINN..SWAGGART..all of em..BENTLY..what a total FARCE you vipers are...and you know what????ONE common DENOMINATOR among all of these CHARLATANS???.....MONEY MONEY GREED AND MORE MONEY..and ADULTERY

BUT the list goes ON.....

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

They look all clean..but inside they are DIRTY LUSTFUL COWARDLY SELFISH VIPERS.

And THIS according to THE BIBLE..is WHAT Jesus is gonna DO to LIARS LIKE THEM....

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the HYPOCRITES: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Let me break this down a bit so these heartless vipers can FINALLY understand it eh??


8 But the fearful,

(YEP..thats THE NEW AGE CHRISTIAN RAPTURE ADDICTS..always AFRAID and wanting to get OUTTA here while everyone else BURNS

and unbelieving,

(Yep..thats this lot TOO..cause if they actually BELIEVED the bible like they SAY they do..they would NOT be such a bunch of loveless lying hipocritical LIARS)

and the abominable,

(Yes..thats this lot too..their behaviour towards their brothers and the rest of the world is just ABOMINABLE!...an ABOMINATION!!

and murderers,

(HOW many widows have died in their homes..MURDERED by their lack of funds for more medicine because THEY conned them out of their money??..or told sick people to STOP taking their medicine because if they did NOT they lacked FATH and God would not heal them..PURE rubbish and LIES..they are WORSE than JWS refusing blood to dying children in need of a blood transfusion)

and whoremongers,

(Yep..how many of them secretly sleep around..or lust after women or men in their heart?..whoreing after flesh or money..or gain..THIS is what it means..a deep endless lusting to GRATIFY THEMSELVES)

and sorcerers,

(AHH yes..the MAIN one that the pastors of these illuminati NEW AGE CON artists love..sorcery..beguiling with words..using the "Anointing" like a drug..when its ALL just a manufactured atmosphere brought about to BEWITCH and SWINDLE..and THIS is what it means)

and idolaters,

(Idolatry..the modern churches FAVOURITE passtime..they worship WORSHIP..and FEELINGS..and PEOPLE..and MONEY..and BOOKS..and MOVIES..seems they idolise ANYTHING..but GOD..what a bunchh of UTTER AND TOTAL LIARS)

and all liars,shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

SELF explainatory is it NOT?)

8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Need I say more???
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Although we will all face trials and tribulations God never intended for the ones who follow his dictates and principles to be miserable. We DO receive his blessings when it is warranted.
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Although we will all face trials and tribulations God never intended for the ones who follow his dictates and principles to be miserable. We DO receive his blessings when it is warranted.
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Everyday is a blessing and what we do with it is what matters. Yes, we will receive blessings throughout our lives, but so do people of all religious back grounds. Some more tan others. Overall however, if you follow Jesus you must be willing to face the consequences of doing so. Most are not willing to take that chance and play it safe while awaiting their savior to return. This is not what Jesus expects of His followers.

Last Edited by Zaphnath Paaneah on 08/06/2013 11:30 AM
"A religion that gives nothing, costs nothing, and suffers nothing, is worth nothing." ~ Martin Luther

"Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others." Philippians 2:3-4





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If people who currently claim to be Christians actually took the time to read the New Testament and actually listened to Jesus and what he taught there would be very few willing to follow Him. Jesus said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross, be willing to leave behind your riches, family, friends, and be willing to die for Him tomorrow. If you follow Jesus, you will have to suffer. All this feel good crap taught in Christian churches is just to boost attendance and raise money for whatever the church feels fit. If they taught what it really means to follow Christ most of the churches would be empty on Sunday.

A follower of Jesus must be willing to let go of:

Earthly security.

Earthly Ties.

and
Earthly distractions.

If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus. You are only in it for self serving reasons. If loving/helping others is not keeping you from doing the things you want to do in you life, then you are not doing nearly enough. Jesus sacrificed his life for us and suffered tremendously before it was taken. Surely Christians can sacrifice some of their worldly possessions and desires for our brothers and sisters.

There are so many false prophets preaching this feel good gospel by cherry picking verses about how grand your life will be if you accept Jesus as your savior when in reality, your life will in all likelihood take a turn for the worse if you choose to do so. It depends on if the individual takes the teachings of Jesus seriously or if they conform to the ways of the world as most do.

You will have to suffer in this life if you decide to be a follower of Jesus. While we will all fall short, I dare any of you on this forum to take the words of Jesus seriously. Even if you only do a half ass job you will make a difference in the world.
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This is the works gospel that will take you right to hell.
It doesn't matter how much or how little you have.
Everything in this world is temporal.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN THIS LIFE IS THIS:

Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb of God,
and born again of His Holy Spirit?

That, and that alone, determines your eternal destiny.
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Now, what would the Comforter think of a thread title like that?


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Modern Christians are hypocrite retards.

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Comfortable life?, you mean totb and all the greedy assholes with many millions sitting in the bank?.

Don't worry, they will reap the harsh way many lifetimes.
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If people who currently claim to be Christians actually took the time to read the New Testament and actually listened to Jesus and what he taught there would be very few willing to follow Him. Jesus said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross, be willing to leave behind your riches, family, friends, and be willing to die for Him tomorrow. If you follow Jesus, you will have to suffer. All this feel good crap taught in Christian churches is just to boost attendance and raise money for whatever the church feels fit. If they taught what it really means to follow Christ most of the churches would be empty on Sunday.

A follower of Jesus must be willing to let go of:

Earthly security.

Earthly Ties.

and
Earthly distractions.

If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus. You are only in it for self serving reasons. If loving/helping others is not keeping you from doing the things you want to do in you life, then you are not doing nearly enough. Jesus sacrificed his life for us and suffered tremendously before it was taken. Surely Christians can sacrifice some of their worldly possessions and desires for our brothers and sisters.

There are so many false prophets preaching this feel good gospel by cherry picking verses about how grand your life will be if you accept Jesus as your savior when in reality, your life will in all likelihood take a turn for the worse if you choose to do so. It depends on if the individual takes the teachings of Jesus seriously or if they conform to the ways of the world as most do.

You will have to suffer in this life if you decide to be a follower of Jesus. While we will all fall short, I dare any of you on this forum to take the words of Jesus seriously. Even if you only do a half ass job you will make a difference in the world.
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This is the works gospel that will take you right to hell.
It doesn't matter how much or how little you have.
Everything in this world is temporal.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN THIS LIFE IS THIS:

Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb of God,
and born again of His Holy Spirit?

That, and that alone, determines your eternal destiny.

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So I guess Jesus was just wasting his breath when he was telling those who choose to follow Him what is expected of them.
"A religion that gives nothing, costs nothing, and suffers nothing, is worth nothing." ~ Martin Luther

"Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others." Philippians 2:3-4





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Word Willing and Must are different ya know...

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Jesus expects us to judge. Don't stop with verse 3. Keep going. To not judge would be a sin in its self.
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If people who currently claim to be Christians actually took the time to read the New Testament and actually listened to Jesus and what he taught there would be very few willing to follow Him. Jesus said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross, be willing to leave behind your riches, family, friends, and be willing to die for Him tomorrow. If you follow Jesus, you will have to suffer. All this feel good crap taught in Christian churches is just to boost attendance and raise money for whatever the church feels fit. If they taught what it really means to follow Christ most of the churches would be empty on Sunday.

A follower of Jesus must be willing to let go of:

Earthly security.

Earthly Ties.

and
Earthly distractions.

If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus. You are only in it for self serving reasons. If loving/helping others is not keeping you from doing the things you want to do in you life, then you are not doing nearly enough. Jesus sacrificed his life for us and suffered tremendously before it was taken. Surely Christians can sacrifice some of their worldly possessions and desires for our brothers and sisters.

There are so many false prophets preaching this feel good gospel by cherry picking verses about how grand your life will be if you accept Jesus as your savior when in reality, your life will in all likelihood take a turn for the worse if you choose to do so. It depends on if the individual takes the teachings of Jesus seriously or if they conform to the ways of the world as most do.

You will have to suffer in this life if you decide to be a follower of Jesus. While we will all fall short, I dare any of you on this forum to take the words of Jesus seriously. Even if you only do a half ass job you will make a difference in the world.
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This is the works gospel that will take you right to hell.
It doesn't matter how much or how little you have.
Everything in this world is temporal.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN THIS LIFE IS THIS:

Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb of God,
and born again of His Holy Spirit?

That, and that alone, determines your eternal destiny.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7843441


Each soul's walk with Jesus is a personal one. What one is led to do is not a mirror image of another's. Suffering comes in many ways, from many directions...it is not the basis of the suffering that matters, it is how we apply it, utilize it..that is what makes it satisfactory or not to our Trinitarian Father. One cannot blueprint a map of suffering for ALL, this area of salvation is One to one. I understand your ideology, but it applies to you personally..it is what YOU are instructed to do. It is not the same for everyone. We, each of us, have a specific role..and the Holy Father in His Perfection and Love, leads us to complete that role. What you must understand is that when you place such rigid standards on others, you do not increase faith you decrease it. We are not the Prophets of old, we are the children of God in the year 2013. Many haven't the ability to do what you feel is demanded. it should be sufficient for you and your personal walk to complete your role in relation to God and your OWN human experience on your way to infinite life. We all have one specifically planned for each of us by our Triune Father. God bless.
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Re: If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus.
If people who currently claim to be Christians actually took the time to read the New Testament and actually listened to Jesus and what he taught there would be very few willing to follow Him. Jesus said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross, be willing to leave behind your riches, family, friends, and be willing to die for Him tomorrow. If you follow Jesus, you will have to suffer. All this feel good crap taught in Christian churches is just to boost attendance and raise money for whatever the church feels fit. If they taught what it really means to follow Christ most of the churches would be empty on Sunday.

A follower of Jesus must be willing to let go of:

Earthly security.

Earthly Ties.

and
Earthly distractions.

If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus. You are only in it for self serving reasons. If loving/helping others is not keeping you from doing the things you want to do in you life, then you are not doing nearly enough. Jesus sacrificed his life for us and suffered tremendously before it was taken. Surely Christians can sacrifice some of their worldly possessions and desires for our brothers and sisters.

There are so many false prophets preaching this feel good gospel by cherry picking verses about how grand your life will be if you accept Jesus as your savior when in reality, your life will in all likelihood take a turn for the worse if you choose to do so. It depends on if the individual takes the teachings of Jesus seriously or if they conform to the ways of the world as most do.

You will have to suffer in this life if you decide to be a follower of Jesus. While we will all fall short, I dare any of you on this forum to take the words of Jesus seriously. Even if you only do a half ass job you will make a difference in the world.
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become a Christian and immediately the world hates you, you lose your friends, some of your family and you suffer abuse daily, especially on dopey forums. it's automatic and it's every day, no matter where or how you live
Jesus loves me, this I know, for the bible tells me so

Calm seas do not a sailor make,
Nor easy horses, a horseman.

Nor easy believing, a Christian

Proudly deplorable since forever
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You are in way over your pay scale.

Firstly we were commanded to spread the gospels, the good news.

The only two things that Christ told us to do are love God above all others and to love our neighbor (anyone else) as we love ourselves.

No where in His messages to us is to do anything else but whAt comes out, naturally. He gave us varying gifts to be used and they are different for each of us.

No where does it say we have to suffer, that is not a loving state. In the Phillippines flagellatiuon is still practiced , is this what you espouse?

There is nothing we can do to save ourselves, He did that already, to conclude all to Him in this.
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You are in way over your pay scale.

Firstly we were commanded to spread the gospels, the good news.

The only two things that Christ told us to do are love God above all others and to love our neighbor (anyone else) as we love ourselves.

No where in His messages to us is to do anything else but whAt comes out, naturally. He gave us varying gifts to be used and they are different for each of us.

No where does it say we have to suffer, that is not a loving state. In the Phillippines flagellatiuon is still practiced , is this what you espouse?

There is nothing we can do to save ourselves, He did that already, to conclude all to Him in this.
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You left out about 40 or so other things Jesus commanded us to do, but if you choose a couple of the feel good ones that's up to you. You are still covered by God's grace. Right?
"A religion that gives nothing, costs nothing, and suffers nothing, is worth nothing." ~ Martin Luther

"Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others." Philippians 2:3-4





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No one follows Jesus. Jesus said you will know them that follow me they will-
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
No one heals anyone and that's fact so shut your non follow Big mouth up.
You all get so mad at the truth.
I did not say it Jesus did, so therefore I know u all suck and are not followers Of Jesus.
And sthu with your pathetic explanations you make me sick.
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This is the works gospel that will take you right to hell.
It doesn't matter how much or how little you have.
Everything in this world is temporal.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN THIS LIFE IS THIS:

Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb of God,
and born again of His Holy Spirit?

That, and that alone, determines your eternal destiny.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7843441


Religion is all about mind control. I see it has a good hold on yours. To try and educate people like you is like trying to empty the Pacific Ocean - it will never happen. Your religion is filled with blood lust. Carry on with your FEAR instilled life.

It's YOU religion, YOUR God, YOU burn in hell.
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Thanks OP, I like you
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The only two things that Christ told us to do are love God above all others and to love our neighbor (anyone else) as we love ourselves.


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But, you are taught NOT to love yourself. You are told you are nothing but a low down, scum of the earth, SINNER. You are told you are nothing but a piece of sh_t not worthy of anything. No wonder there is a lack of love in this world. All 3 main religions teach this crap. IT IS A LIE!!
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If everyone acted as if Jesus did who would answer the phones or make our food. Who would fill our shopping malls and our concerts?

Jesus had an agenda, to speak his theory to as many people as he could and to give faith to each person who he spoke to.

We have deduced Earth has been explored and there are no spots that haven't been stepped on. To walk incredible distances just to share a theory to make people have faith. Forcing religion upon someone is terrible, forcing judgement upon someone because they don't have the same beliefs as you do is even worse.
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The only two things that Christ told us to do are love God above all others and to love our neighbor (anyone else) as we love ourselves.


 Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228


But, you are taught NOT to love yourself. You are told you are nothing but a low down, scum of the earth, SINNER. You are told you are nothing but a piece of sh_t not worthy of anything. No wonder there is a lack of love in this world. All 3 main religions teach this crap. IT IS A LIE!!
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"Go, guard the knowledge and give it to whom ye have tested. Make of it a religion for only thus will its essence remain."


Edited words from a wise man, to which I may add: Step at ease.
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You look awfully comfortable and well fed in that picture. The ancient ascetics went to great lengths to impoverish themselves, fast from food and drink and live off what God provided from nature or handouts. Not everyone can go to the extremes, many are called few are chosen. Doesn't mean they'll be lost, maybe just go through a longer purification phase in the after life.
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If you claim to be a Christian and you are living a comfortable life, then you can not possibly be following the teachings of Jesus.

Same thing can be said for liberals. If you have enough money to live comfortably, you haven't given enough money to support those less fortunate. "Rich liberal" is a total hypocrisy; given that all liberals are hypocrites, this explains why there are so many rich ones.
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You look awfully comfortable and well fed in that picture. The ancient ascetics went to great lengths to impoverish themselves, fast from food and drink and live off what God provided from nature or handouts. Not everyone can go to the extremes, many are called few are chosen. Doesn't mean they'll be lost, maybe just go through a longer purification phase in the after life.
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I happen to live a simple, simple life and eat what I need to survive. Of course I try to stay healthy in the process. I went from living in a large home back in the states to a one room apartment (15' X 15') with no flushing toilet, no hot water, no TV, no AC. Just electricity, running water, and an internet connection. I can say that I am more content with my life now than at any point, yet I still fall short of what is expected of me.

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"A religion that gives nothing, costs nothing, and suffers nothing, is worth nothing." ~ Martin Luther

"Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others." Philippians 2:3-4





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if you don't have any money nobody wants you around, period. You have nothing to give anyone.

If you gave all your money to the poor to follow Christ you would quickly realize you are homeless and everyone will hate you and you will need to beg for money from them to get food, or a motel room.
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You look awfully comfortable and well fed in that picture. The ancient ascetics went to great lengths to impoverish themselves, fast from food and drink and live off what God provided from nature or handouts. Not everyone can go to the extremes, many are called few are chosen. Doesn't mean they'll be lost, maybe just go through a longer purification phase in the after life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5496269


I happen to live a simple, simple life and eat what I need to survive. Of course I try to stay healthy in the process. I went from living in a large home back in the states to a one room apartment (15' X 15') with no flushing toilet, no hot water, no TV, no AC. Just electricity, running water, and an internet connection. I can say that I am more content with my life now than at any point, yet I still fall short of what is expected of me.
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Be careful not to do your acts of righteousness before men, to be seen like them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets like the hypocrits do in the synagogues and the streets to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

And when you fast [from this world], do not look somber, for the hypocrits disfigure their faces to show men that they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you fast, put oil on your head, wash your face that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.





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