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NASCAR - Ryan Newman in serious but stable condition following fiery crash

 
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I am almost as happy for Corey LaJoie as I am for Ryan.

Had he died, I think it would have killed Corey's career in racing as well.
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It didnt do sterling martins career any good when he turned senior into the wall.
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That relates back to Morgan McClure and $$$$$$$$.....SMR is going strong last time I checked
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I am almost as happy for Corey LaJoie as I am for Ryan.

Had he died, I think it would have killed Corey's career in racing as well.
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I disagree. Nobody in their right mind can blame Lajoie for that.
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NO I mean Corey LaJoie would blame Corey LaJoie not anyone else
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I see what you mean.

I'm sure you've noticed, bad wrecks have slowed a lot of drivers down, until they finally retire, even some not involved directly in the wrecks. won't name names, but the change was noticeable.
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I think Ryan Newman may not return for quite a while. He has severe burns to his head. I would think that would include his face. He may end up very disfigured. Burns take a long time to heal and are extremely painful. As far as the guy Corey Lajoie? He was not at fault and should not feel guilty. Ryan Blaney may feel some responsibility because he was pushing him when he lost control. Denny Hamlin played no real role in the wreck. I Think Hamlin handled the interview just fine. He showed compassion for Newman. He didn't know what to say. He just won the fucking Daytona 500. The woman was baiting him...

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I am almost as happy for Corey LaJoie as I am for Ryan.

Had he died, I think it would have killed Corey's career in racing as well.
 Quoting: Jeff_43


I disagree. Nobody in their right mind can blame Lajoie for that.
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NO I mean Corey LaJoie would blame Corey LaJoie not anyone else
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I see what you mean.

I'm sure you've noticed, bad wrecks have slowed a lot of drivers down, until they finally retire, even some not involved directly in the wrecks. won't name names, but the change was noticeable.
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Richard petty had a few pretty bad ones. I think that last one at Daytona scared him.
Dale Jr should have had a few more good racing years.
Although I think JR had to retire medically more than anything. I think he may have some head trauma that he did not disclose that stopped him.
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I think Ryan Newman may not return for quite a while. He has severe burns to his head. I would think that would include his face. He may end up very disfigured. Burns take a long time to heal and are extremely painful. As far as the guy Corey Lajoi? He was not at fault and should not feel guilty. Ryan Blaney may feel some responsibility because he was pushing him when he lost control. Denny Hamlin played no real role in the wreck. I Think Hamlin handled the interview just fine. He showed compassion for Newman. He didn't know what to say. He just won the fucking Daytona 500. The woman was baiting him...
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Corey LaJoie was not at fault at all but had Ryan died both he and Ryan Blaney would both blame themselves, you could see it in their interviews post race. Both were worried about Newman. I never liked Denny so I am jaded in my opinion of him but surely his crew should have told him to cool it with the burnouts when they saw how bad the crash was. I know they saw it because they have huge TV's all around the track showing in real time everything we see at home on a 15 to 20 second delay. I have been on the phone while at the track and talking to my wife at home watching the race live. I was 15 t 20 seconds ahead of her
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I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
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I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
 Quoting: Carbonus


yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
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That crash was unavoidable and had he died it was an accident.

There have been crashes that were avoidable in NASCAR that have killed people.

This one comes to mind.
I will not embed the video because it is a fatal crash that should have never happened. The poor guy had crashed and was fine. He told his crew on the radio he was fine, long after it was over another car comes in and T-Bones him at full speed.
She did not even try to slow or avoid him.
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Damn. i had forgotten that incident.

funny how they called it Concord there. Used to call it Harrisburg too.

they never do that anymore, its always Charlotte now...
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And Newman took a direct hit in the door

Same way

Upside down

Thank God he was sliding

Still in shock he survived
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He was in the air and still moving in the same direction at a pretty good speed. Had he been sitting on the track still, there is no way he would have lived and chances are Corey LaJoie would be hurt pretty bad as well.
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100% agree
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It looked to me like the driver that hit his rear end caused him to wreck. If that was on the highway that driver would be in big trouble. You are 100% responsible for your front end and he clipped him causing him to wreck.
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It looked to me like the driver that hit his rear end caused him to wreck. If that was on the highway that driver would be in big trouble. You are 100% responsible for your front end and he clipped him causing him to wreck.
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Hamlin got Blaney loose who then got Newman loose

Hamlin was driving aggressively to win the race and inadvertantly caused the wreck
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That crash was unavoidable and had he died it was an accident.

There have been crashes that were avoidable in NASCAR that have killed people.

This one comes to mind.
I will not embed the video because it is a fatal crash that should have never happened. The poor guy had crashed and was fine. He told his crew on the radio he was fine, long after it was over another car comes in and T-Bones him at full speed.
She did not even try to slow or avoid him.
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Damn. i had forgotten that incident.

funny how they called it Concord there. Used to call it Harrisburg too.

they never do that anymore, its always Charlotte now...
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I had forgotten about that. Decided I google around to see what Deborah is doing today. She didn't like "Danica".
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It looked to me like the driver that hit his rear end caused him to wreck. If that was on the highway that driver would be in big trouble. You are 100% responsible for your front end and he clipped him causing him to wreck.
 Quoting: ambermink


Hamlin got Blaney loose who then got Newman loose

Hamlin was driving aggressively to win the race and inadvertantly caused the wreck
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Oh Bullshit...
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Serious condition, not life threatening. Sounds like some broken bones and maybe severe head trauma. He's gonna make it though. Good news.
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It looked to me like the driver that hit his rear end caused him to wreck. If that was on the highway that driver would be in big trouble. You are 100% responsible for your front end and he clipped him causing him to wreck.
 Quoting: ambermink


Hamlin got Blaney loose who then got Newman loose

Hamlin was driving aggressively to win the race and inadvertantly caused the wreck
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Oh Bullshit...
 Quoting: Carbonus


Watch it again.

Its quite clearly what happened.

Newman and Blaney passed Hamlin. Hamlin hooked up in 3rd place behind Blaney and aggressively bump drafted him, getting him loose.

Newman moved down and Blaney went with him, still out of control and passed the energy to Newman. He wrecked.

I didnt say Hamlin did it on purpose but it is what happened.
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I'll be completely surprised if he has any serious burns at all. I just don't think he does.

Injuries to his left side, maybe a broken clavicle and related internal injuries. Possibly a neck injury, hence the CPR... I mean C-collar.
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wow, hope he pulls through. That is one intense crash. :(
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I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
 Quoting: Carbonus


yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
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You are right he did do some burnouts on the grass, then got out of his car and celebrated with the crowd. He then got back in his car to do some burnouts on the track, putting the steering wheel back on. It was then, I can only assume he was told about Ryan's condition, and did not do the burnouts, because it would have been in poor taste.
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It looked to me like the driver that hit his rear end caused him to wreck. If that was on the highway that driver would be in big trouble. You are 100% responsible for your front end and he clipped him causing him to wreck.
 Quoting: ambermink


Hamlin got Blaney loose who then got Newman loose

Hamlin was driving aggressively to win the race and inadvertantly caused the wreck
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Oh Bullshit...
 Quoting: Carbonus


Watch it again.

Its quite clearly what happened.

Newman and Blaney passed Hamlin. Hamlin hooked up in 3rd place behind Blaney and aggressively bump drafted him, getting him loose.

Newman moved down and Blaney went with him, still out of control and passed the energy to Newman. He wrecked.

I didnt say Hamlin did it on purpose but it is what happened.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger™



He was trying to win a race

Just like everyone else

For a million bucks

Puts the taste of blood in your mouth

Doesnt it?

Racing is a mean game

It is, what it is

Ryan Newman would tell you the same thing
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I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
 Quoting: Carbonus


yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
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You are right he did do some burnouts on the grass, then got out of his car and celebrated with the crowd. He then got back in his car to do some burnouts on the track, putting the steering wheel back on. It was then, I can only assume he was told about Ryan's condition, and did not do the burnouts, because it would have been in poor taste.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


He wanted to do an interview on the front stretch but FOX told them they could not because of Ryan crash.

Denny himself may not have known what happened when he was doing his grass burnouts BUT his spotter or Crew chief would have known and should have told him to just come into inspection and then to victory lane quietly.
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Hamlin got Blaney loose who then got Newman loose

Hamlin was driving aggressively to win the race and inadvertantly caused the wreck
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Oh Bullshit...
 Quoting: Carbonus


Watch it again.

Its quite clearly what happened.

Newman and Blaney passed Hamlin. Hamlin hooked up in 3rd place behind Blaney and aggressively bump drafted him, getting him loose.

Newman moved down and Blaney went with him, still out of control and passed the energy to Newman. He wrecked.

I didnt say Hamlin did it on purpose but it is what happened.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger™



He was trying to win a race

Just like everyone else

For a million bucks

Puts the taste of blood in your mouth

Doesnt it?

Racing is a mean game

It is, what it is

Ryan Newman would tell you the same thing
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not disputing that

just telling the facts of what happened plain and simply
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Fair enough OP

I know youre a level head

Thanks again for thread
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I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
 Quoting: Carbonus


yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
 Quoting: Jeff_43


You are right he did do some burnouts on the grass, then got out of his car and celebrated with the crowd. He then got back in his car to do some burnouts on the track, putting the steering wheel back on. It was then, I can only assume he was told about Ryan's condition, and did not do the burnouts, because it would have been in poor taste.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


He wanted to do an interview on the front stretch but FOX told them they could not because of Ryan crash.

Denny himself may not have known what happened when he was doing his grass burnouts BUT his spotter or Crew chief would have known and should have told him to just come into inspection and then to victory lane quietly.
 Quoting: Jeff_43


I think you are right, because he took his helmet off which would have had the communication stuff in it.
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Re: NASCAR - Ryan Newman in serious but stable condition following fiery crash
I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
 Quoting: Carbonus


yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
 Quoting: Jeff_43


You are right he did do some burnouts on the grass, then got out of his car and celebrated with the crowd. He then got back in his car to do some burnouts on the track, putting the steering wheel back on. It was then, I can only assume he was told about Ryan's condition, and did not do the burnouts, because it would have been in poor taste.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


He wanted to do an interview on the front stretch but FOX told them they could not because of Ryan crash.

Denny himself may not have known what happened when he was doing his grass burnouts BUT his spotter or Crew chief would have known and should have told him to just come into inspection and then to victory lane quietly.
 Quoting: Jeff_43


I'll go with that. I thought he had a look on his face just as the camera cut away when he was with Jamie Little, but he often has that deer in the headlights look.

I've raced, and I won't bore anyone with the details, but almost every time time somebody hit me, I laughed my ass off. It's racing.

I'll also go with the comment that Ryan would probably tell us the same thing, that's racing.
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Hamlin got Blaney loose who then got Newman loose

Hamlin was driving aggressively to win the race and inadvertantly caused the wreck
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Oh Bullshit...
 Quoting: Carbonus


Watch it again.

Its quite clearly what happened.

Newman and Blaney passed Hamlin. Hamlin hooked up in 3rd place behind Blaney and aggressively bump drafted him, getting him loose.

Newman moved down and Blaney went with him, still out of control and passed the energy to Newman. He wrecked.

I didnt say Hamlin did it on purpose but it is what happened.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger™



He was trying to win a race

Just like everyone else

For a million bucks

Puts the taste of blood in your mouth

Doesnt it?

Racing is a mean game

It is, what it is

Ryan Newman would tell you the same thing
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Its the last lap of the biggest race of the season. He was racing for the win and can not be blamed for that. Last lap all the restraints are off. But have some respect for what may well have been a fatal crash after the checkered flag flies..


Also NASCAR is being inconsistent when throwing cautions after a crash,

Everyone is forgetting there was another crash on the last lap about 2 miles back that was worse than some NASCAR has thrown cautions for in the past. The drivers most likely knew there was a crash and a caution was coming causing them to do stupid things to get ahead before the yellow flew. Only this one time NASCAR decided to let them ace to the line which I see no problem with as long as they stay consistent and do not wait for whomever they want to get ahead before throwing the yellow.

Wither throw it when the crash happens like the do the rest of the race or tell the drivers on the last lap no caution will fly unless the track is blocked before the start finish line.
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He may not race again if he pulls through, depending on his injuries he may have pain and weakness the rest of his life. I really hope I'm wrong,but a crash like that can leave you in constant pain. People often say, it's just driving a fast car, how hard can it be? I don't think they understand the amount of hard work it is to that fast for that long.
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I didn't see the burnouts, all I remember is seeing him fire up his car and head to the winners circle then he had a mic in his face. Maybe I left the room for a minute...
 Quoting: Carbonus


yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
 Quoting: Jeff_43


You are right he did do some burnouts on the grass, then got out of his car and celebrated with the crowd. He then got back in his car to do some burnouts on the track, putting the steering wheel back on. It was then, I can only assume he was told about Ryan's condition, and did not do the burnouts, because it would have been in poor taste.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


He wanted to do an interview on the front stretch but FOX told them they could not because of Ryan crash.

Denny himself may not have known what happened when he was doing his grass burnouts BUT his spotter or Crew chief would have known and should have told him to just come into inspection and then to victory lane quietly.
 Quoting: Jeff_43


His spotter , Chris Lambert expressed sincere regret at not getting to Hamlin in time but was very concerned about Newman:

Read:

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yeah there was about a minute or burnouts and doing doughnuts and sliding through the grass
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You are right he did do some burnouts on the grass, then got out of his car and celebrated with the crowd. He then got back in his car to do some burnouts on the track, putting the steering wheel back on. It was then, I can only assume he was told about Ryan's condition, and did not do the burnouts, because it would have been in poor taste.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


He wanted to do an interview on the front stretch but FOX told them they could not because of Ryan crash.

Denny himself may not have known what happened when he was doing his grass burnouts BUT his spotter or Crew chief would have known and should have told him to just come into inspection and then to victory lane quietly.
 Quoting: Jeff_43


I think you are right, because he took his helmet off which would have had the communication stuff in it.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


I noticed after he laid the wheel on the dash, he reached up like he was hitting the talk button. Maybe he heard some comms?
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Oh Bullshit...
 Quoting: Carbonus


Watch it again.

Its quite clearly what happened.

Newman and Blaney passed Hamlin. Hamlin hooked up in 3rd place behind Blaney and aggressively bump drafted him, getting him loose.

Newman moved down and Blaney went with him, still out of control and passed the energy to Newman. He wrecked.

I didnt say Hamlin did it on purpose but it is what happened.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger™



He was trying to win a race

Just like everyone else

For a million bucks

Puts the taste of blood in your mouth

Doesnt it?

Racing is a mean game

It is, what it is

Ryan Newman would tell you the same thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78491726


Its the last lap of the biggest race of the season. He was racing for the win and can not be blamed for that. Last lap all the restraints are off. But have some respect for what may well have been a fatal crash after the checkered flag flies..


Also NASCAR is being inconsistent when throwing cautions after a crash,

Everyone is forgetting there was another crash on the last lap about 2 miles back that was worse than some NASCAR has thrown cautions for in the past. The drivers most likely knew there was a crash and a caution was coming causing them to do stupid things to get ahead before the yellow flew. Only this one time NASCAR decided to let them ace to the line which I see no problem with as long as they stay consistent and do not wait for whomever they want to get ahead before throwing the yellow.

Wither throw it when the crash happens like the do the rest of the race or tell the drivers on the last lap no caution will fly unless the track is blocked before the start finish line.
 Quoting: Jeff_43



I dont agree with anything NASCAR is doing

That includes tonights announcement about Newman

Whole circuts a mess





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