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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78448045 United States 02/18/2020 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Busterhymen That was not fuel, it was engine coolant. I was watching that stuff gush out also, and the flames didn't pay any attention to it. It would have been a freaking fireball if it would have been fuel. There was more than one type of liquid gushing out. I'm not sure there's any engine coolant at the rear of the car. Somebody should contact the investigators and tell them to quit wasting their time? No coolant (water) in the rear of the car. The coolant tank is still on the passenger side firewall where the overflow and fill is located. The tank in the rear of the car is for cooling the rear differential, circulated through by the pump driven by the car's driveshaft. So the honey-brown colored liquid was gear oil, and the clear'ish looking liquid was fuel. Sure it wasn't engine oil from the dry sump tank? Could be right. But I'm sure they use the rear gear cooler too. Guess my point is, why would investigators be looking at a fuel leak. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62192428 United States 02/18/2020 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78448045 There was more than one type of liquid gushing out. I'm not sure there's any engine coolant at the rear of the car. Somebody should contact the investigators and tell them to quit wasting their time? No coolant (water) in the rear of the car. The coolant tank is still on the passenger side firewall where the overflow and fill is located. The tank in the rear of the car is for cooling the rear differential, circulated through by the pump driven by the car's driveshaft. So the honey-brown colored liquid was gear oil, and the clear'ish looking liquid was fuel. Sure it wasn't engine oil from the dry sump tank? Could be right. But I'm sure they use the rear gear cooler too. Guess my point is, why would investigators be looking at a fuel leak. Agree on that. I could be wrong but I think if that was gas leaking like that it would have caught fire in a big way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35676288 United States 02/18/2020 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude took a hit on the head at head height by a car doing around 180mph. The car that hit him on the head never hit the brakes but at least let off the gas a little. I see around 5 dudes die like this over the years. Lucky man, good job to crew for building a bad ass car (every weld matters), hats off to NASCAR for ever increasing safety standards. Hope his neck, concussion, etc go fine. Technology is there. Go see the NFL doctors. Thats what Jr. did. They are the best. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78448045 United States 02/18/2020 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78448045 No coolant (water) in the rear of the car. The coolant tank is still on the passenger side firewall where the overflow and fill is located. The tank in the rear of the car is for cooling the rear differential, circulated through by the pump driven by the car's driveshaft. So the honey-brown colored liquid was gear oil, and the clear'ish looking liquid was fuel. Sure it wasn't engine oil from the dry sump tank? Could be right. But I'm sure they use the rear gear cooler too. Guess my point is, why would investigators be looking at a fuel leak. Agree on that. I could be wrong but I think if that was gas leaking like that it would have caught fire in a big way. Without reviewing videos, the visible fire was mostly toward the end of the filler neck, while the gas was flowing downhill away from that flame. I was concerned it would light any second, or the firemen would cause the flame to go toward the fuel. Apparently the fuel ran down along the driver's side, fireman gave it a shot on that side. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10499772 United States 02/18/2020 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to popculture.com (secure)] Lots of strange leads and points in this article Things are getting weird now |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78448045 United States 02/18/2020 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to popculture.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10499772 Lots of strange leads and points in this article Things are getting weird now Probably some hand-wringing going on today at Nascar. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78229229 United States 02/18/2020 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to popculture.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10499772 Lots of strange leads and points in this article Things are getting weird now Thanks. This is what someone had mentioned & that he got fined for speaking out. From article: Newman has previously expressed his concerns over the way NASCAR cars are becoming too fast. He did so following a race in Talladega last April in which he spoke about the way cars are getting more dangerous. That wasn't the first time he voiced his frustrations about the situation. After being involved in another car crash in 2013, which was the third time since 2009 he either had his car go airborne or had another car come down on him, Newman went off on the subject. "I am doing this interview to let everybody know I'm all right," Newman said to reporters afterwards according to ESPN. "They can build safer race cars, they can build safer walls. But they can't get their heads out of their a---- far enough to keep them on the race track, and that's pretty disappointing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41925838 United States 02/18/2020 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I prayed for Ryan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76676317 I am still left with a sick feeling and angry seeing a celebration after the race. And another woman cue card reader pushed to asked silly "how does it feel" questions. Just stop. Joe Gibbs and his crew prayed at the end of the race. What he prayed for will be an unknown unless he divulges that info. Hoping that prayer was for Ryan... The driver (winner of Daytona 500) most likely didn't know about the accident since it happened through the last lap. I think he was informed about the accident after his celebratory spin on the green grassy field (maybe?). He looked a little stunned. Even during the interview. Difficult to know what to do in this situation. Most of us would had followed cue. As far as 'another woman cue card reader'...Meh...stop today and listen to "Dirty Laundry" by Don Henley. Side bar - For the life of me, I will never understand why the good Christian Joe Gibbs opted to field those hedonistic Toys? NASCAR wasn't built on that! Joe Gibbs prays with the team like that after every win. Nothing new there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76153339 United States 02/18/2020 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to popculture.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10499772 Lots of strange leads and points in this article Things are getting weird now Thanks. This is what someone had mentioned & that he got fined for speaking out. From article: Newman has previously expressed his concerns over the way NASCAR cars are becoming too fast. He did so following a race in Talladega last April in which he spoke about the way cars are getting more dangerous. That wasn't the first time he voiced his frustrations about the situation. After being involved in another car crash in 2013, which was the third time since 2009 he either had his car go airborne or had another car come down on him, Newman went off on the subject. "I am doing this interview to let everybody know I'm all right," Newman said to reporters afterwards according to ESPN. "They can build safer race cars, they can build safer walls. But they can't get their heads out of their a---- far enough to keep them on the race track, and that's pretty disappointing. Yep Things kind of just went to the moon Lightning strikes in the back ground |
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User ID: 68702751 United States 02/18/2020 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don’t bump and push at 195 mph NASCAR love it or leave it None like it Not trying to compare the two, however being open wheeled they can also lock wheels and have crazy crashes if you can spare 3 minutes, you'll see all racing is dangerous. Coal burning stove no natural gas, if that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass - David Allan Coe |
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User ID: 78479941 United States 02/18/2020 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He should have died because Ryan Newman is a brain dead liberal who gets funding for George soros and Nancy Pelosi. Fuck that queer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77495269 Money is tight in NASCAR with lots of long time big money sponsors leaving or pulling back. He has little to do with the names on the car. The owner of the car is the one that signs the deals most the time. There are exceptions like Paul Menard, the Menards sponsorship followed him from team to team till he ran out of teams to bounce to and he retired. His daddy owns Menards. Richard Petty had STP follow him to the Curb racing team in the mid 80s when he left his own team to his son kyle for a while. But Koch was not one of the deals that followed Ryan, in fact I am pretty sure that is the 1st race he had raced with them on his car. |
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User ID: 78479941 United States 02/18/2020 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don’t bump and push at 195 mph NASCAR love it or leave it None like it Not trying to compare the two, however being open wheeled they can also lock wheels and have crazy crashes if you can spare 3 minutes, you'll see all racing is dangerous. Both are dangerous but they also both have very good safety rules and regulations. I personally think a full bod car is a bit more forgiving than an open wheel car. They can bump off each other and the wall and still run strong. If open wheel cars rub the wall or another car it pretty much ends their day. One thing that no one is saying is the race where Ryan crashed should have ended under caution after the leader took the white flag and there was a crash behind the leaders that should have brought out a caution. NASCAR normally throws a caution with a crash as ad as that one but they did not. The way their rules are, the winner is the one in the lead when they throw the caution. The drivers knew there was a crash and a caution could be coming at any time so they may have been fighting a tiny bit harder to get ahead and made their final moves before they planned to. The crash is on NASCAR for not being consistent about when they throw the caution. I personally think they did not want Newman to win because he has been outspoken against them in the past. Had another driver been in the lead they may have thrown the caution and ended the race when that 1st crash on the last lap happened. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73368594 United States 02/18/2020 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don’t bump and push at 195 mph NASCAR love it or leave it None like it Not trying to compare the two, however being open wheeled they can also lock wheels and have crazy crashes if you can spare 3 minutes, you'll see all racing is dangerous. Google Stan Fox Indy 1995 for some incredible pictures. Thanks for the video. |
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User ID: 78479941 United States 02/18/2020 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don’t bump and push at 195 mph NASCAR love it or leave it None like it Not trying to compare the two, however being open wheeled they can also lock wheels and have crazy crashes if you can spare 3 minutes, you'll see all racing is dangerous. Both are dangerous but they also both have very good safety rules and regulations. I personally think a full bod car is a bit more forgiving than an open wheel car. They can bump off each other and the wall and still run strong. If open wheel cars rub the wall or another car it pretty much ends their day. One thing that no one is saying is the race where Ryan crashed should have ended under caution after the leader took the white flag and there was a crash behind the leaders that should have brought out a caution. NASCAR normally throws a caution with a crash as ad as that one but they did not. The way their rules are, the winner is the one in the lead when they throw the caution. The drivers knew there was a crash and a caution could be coming at any time so they may have been fighting a tiny bit harder to get ahead and made their final moves before they planned to. The crash is on NASCAR for not being consistent about when they throw the caution. I personally think they did not want Newman to win because he has been outspoken against them in the past. Had another driver been in the lead they may have thrown the caution and ended the race when that 1st crash on the last lap happened. The crash that should have ended the race is at the 24 minute mark in the following video [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78440725 United States 02/18/2020 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this is all happening almost 19 years to the day Earnhardt died....and this is a bit telling what Earnhardt Jr said about Newman's crash. "I just can't stop thinking about Ryan," Earnhardt told NBC. "Just waiting on more news, more information... when can we see him? When can we physically talk to Ryan? When can we put our own eyes on him and get a chance to see how he's doing." If Newman is really up and talking why can't Earnhardt talk to him? Or see him? |
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User ID: 13247687 United States 02/18/2020 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow - that 18+ video is brutal and sad. Many of the drivers died from fire which happens rarely now. Fuel tank, roll cages, and keeping the cars from going airborne has been improved tremendously over the last couple of decades. What happened with Newman’s car was a bit of everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Hungry drivers and speed can be deadly. They know it going into the career. With 30-laps left, I was amazed at how many cars were still racing; but of course the real racing, the most dangerous racing was just a few laps away. The herd thinned quickly, putting more surviving racers in contention. It is what it is. If you don’t like the game, don’t watch it. You have other options. |
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User ID: 78479941 United States 02/19/2020 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in 2009, Ryan Newman lobbied NASCAR to add a bar to the cage to increase the strength of the top Halo. NASCAR agreed, and the Newman Bar was added to the Gen6 COT with little fan fare. 10 years later.. the Newman Bar likely saved Ryan's life.. Ryan has a B.S. in engineering from Purdue so it is safe to assume he knows what he is talking about when he addresses safety concerns Last Edited by Jeff_43 on 02/19/2020 12:05 AM |