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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. WTF are you talking about? Lmfao you know that most of the states willingly joined the United with the caveat they could leave whenever for any reason right? So them leaving is treason or is treason stopping them from leaving? Certainly a grey area but "treason" seems a bit ridiculous in that context. Yeah, I agree with you But 90% of americans wont They see the confederacy as an attempt to keep slavery an institution, and many southern leaders admitted it was including Lee himself. What the confederacy was fighting was the beginnings of the New World Order, central bank internationalism and all the communists machinations that latter manifested in the 20th century. People with a brain know what we have been fighting, and are still fighting. Confused people end up supporting the prison planet because they buy into Marxist oppression horse shit. The south was financed by , hold your breath...BARON ROTHSCHILD |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78682637 United States 07/15/2020 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have news for you, there is a lot of evil in the white race and always has been. You are the only race that kills people you do not hate who have done nothing to you just to take what is theirs. NO OTHER RACE does this. What are you smoking? EVERY race has done that. Including yours. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have news for you, there is a lot of evil in the white race and always has been. You are the only race that kills people you do not hate who have done nothing to you just to take what is theirs. NO OTHER RACE does this. What are you smoking? EVERY race has done that. Including yours. WRONG |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78206162 Latvia 07/15/2020 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Yankee through and through and I had ancestors killed in the civil war. But this shit is beyond stupid. Not every northerner was pro abolition and not every southerner was pro slavery. Even if that was true it (and of course it isn't) it was a different time than it is now. Knock the stupid shit off and quit reopening old wounds. Let the men rest in peace. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222351 I best if they had to do it over again most of them would take tell the white plantation owners to fight for their own economic prosperity at their expense. Like I said, it was no fun being white in the south. Unless you had money you were less than a nigra. Fun? Yeah, Americans worked hard on their own land, raised their own food, went to bed with the chickens, got up before sunrise, made their own music and entertainment and went to church on Sunday. What do you call, "fun."? And nearly every other person in the world would have traded places with them for the simple fact Americans were free, armed and not hungry and not being persecuted for religious and political reasons. Good point, Success is happiness , freedom and independence. How do you think you can improve on how my people lived before the whites came? Well figure it this way, if Charles Martel hadn't pushed back the Muslims at the Battle of Tours, the American Indian would have been dealing with Muslims not Europeans. And you still be bitching. Or maybe not. Because the Muslims would have killed every one of you heathens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33600588 United States 07/15/2020 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have news for you, there is a lot of evil in the white race and always has been. You are the only race that kills people you do not hate who have done nothing to you just to take what is theirs. NO OTHER RACE does this. Have you ever read a history book in your entire life? You sound stupid as fuck. If you have such a chip on your shoulder and are so full of hate, why don’t you take your sorry ass back to Bantu land? Sick of your poor, oppressed bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 07/15/2020 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. Actually I agree with him in principal , but you have to admit the south was the enemy OF THIS PRESENT COUNTRY at one time and their soldiers committed treason against it. You cant expect the people who are part of it to tolerate people many of them hold to be a celebration of institutionalized racial supremacy. I do not doubt the Constitutional right to secession, either, the Lakotah Republic did it many years ago. Too bad the idea of "institutional racial supremacy" still exists, stronger than ever, everywhere on this planet. Losing our Representative republics did nothing to change that. What it did do was create a perfect cast system for voluntary servitude to Government goons and fiat central banks to rule over us without recourse without race being an issue. We are ALL SLAVES NOW. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14110969 United States 07/15/2020 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. I actually have a history degree and am a historian of civil war history And 95% of southern whites were not dirt poor. That was about 10% who were poor and lived in backwood shacks and off the land The largest percentage of southern whites at 65% were single-family Farmers without slaves |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 07/15/2020 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. I actually have a history degree and am a historian of civil war history And 95% of southern whites were not dirt poor. That was about 10% who were poor and lived in backwood shacks and off the land The largest percentage of southern whites at 65% were single-family Farmers without slaves Then you know slavery was gone without war. The cost of owning slaves was never going to last with the industrial age anyway. It was about States rights to self govern and the militias keeping government goons in check on a state and Federal level. The Federal Government did not militias, which is why they totally ignore half the 2nd Amendment to this day. They simply got the States to go along with totalitarian Government by force. Again, we are ALL SLAVES NOW to the City of Washington and its "states, possessions and territories" IE, "this state". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 07/15/2020 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. I actually have a history degree and am a historian of civil war history And 95% of southern whites were not dirt poor. That was about 10% who were poor and lived in backwood shacks and off the land The largest percentage of southern whites at 65% were single-family Farmers without slaves Then you know slavery was gone without war. The cost of owning slaves was never going to last with the industrial age anyway. It was about States rights to self govern and the militias keeping government goons in check on a state and Federal level. The Federal Government did not want militias, which is why they totally ignore half the 2nd Amendment to this day. They simply got the States to go along with totalitarian Government by force. Again, we are ALL SLAVES NOW to the City of Washington and its "states, possessions and territories" IE, "this state". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14364611 United States 07/15/2020 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. except lincoln invaded them states had state rights then as they do now - |
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User ID: 79150247 United States 07/15/2020 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. I actually have a history degree and am a historian of civil war history And 95% of southern whites were not dirt poor. That was about 10% who were poor and lived in backwood shacks and off the land The largest percentage of southern whites at 65% were single-family Farmers without slaves Then you also know how the southern women went out to collect all their dead soldiers to bring them home to bury them. That is what this bitch warren doesn't know or care about. WOMEN did this.The north had federal aid and basically spit on the south. May Dixie rise again |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59631017 Hong Kong 07/15/2020 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. Yeah... here here! There called DEMOCRATES dontcha know! The original party of the south! BOOM! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59631017 Hong Kong 07/15/2020 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a much more legitimate claim is that Mt Rushmore should be removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 That land belongs to someone else , not the federal government. Legally. A more legitimate claim is that we need to get rid of people like you who want to destroy this fine country. end of line... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. I actually have a history degree and am a historian of civil war history And 95% of southern whites were not dirt poor. That was about 10% who were poor and lived in backwood shacks and off the land *The largest percentage of southern whites at 65% were single-family Farmers without slaves *citation needed :cruisewulfu: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. Actually I agree with him in principal , but you have to admit the south was the enemy OF THIS PRESENT COUNTRY at one time and their soldiers committed treason against it. You cant expect the people who are part of it to tolerate people many of them hold to be a celebration of institutionalized racial supremacy. I do not doubt the Constitutional right to secession, either, the Lakotah Republic did it many years ago. Too bad the idea of "institutional racial supremacy" still exists, stronger than ever, everywhere on this planet. Losing our Representative republics did nothing to change that. What it did do was create a perfect cast system for voluntary servitude to Government goons and fiat central banks to rule over us without recourse without race being an issue. We are ALL SLAVES NOW. You're all insurgents under zionist occupation YOU'RE ALL ON THE REZ NOW, BABY |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a much more legitimate claim is that Mt Rushmore should be removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 That land belongs to someone else , not the federal government. Legally. A more legitimate claim is that we need to get rid of people like you who want to destroy this fine country. end of line... You cocksuckers couldn't do it in over 400 years, ad it wasn't for a lack of trying. The evil you have visited upon my people has not been forgotten, or forgiven. There are more of us now than when you got here 400,000,000 Amerindians :cruisewulfu: Sleep well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a much more legitimate claim is that Mt Rushmore should be removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 That land belongs to someone else , not the federal government. Legally. A more legitimate claim is that we need to get rid of people like you who want to destroy this fine country. end of line... You cocksuckers couldn't do it in over 400 years, ad it wasn't for a lack of trying. The evil you have visited upon my people has not been forgotten, or forgiven. There are more of us now than when you got here 400,000,000 Amerindians Sleep well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a much more legitimate claim is that Mt Rushmore should be removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 That land belongs to someone else , not the federal government. Legally. A more legitimate claim is that we need to get rid of people like you who want to destroy this fine country. end of line... If this "fine country" does not abide in it's own laws and it's own constitution, what does that make it you panty waste whitebread cornfed motherfucker? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43507815 United States 07/16/2020 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a much more legitimate claim is that Mt Rushmore should be removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 That land belongs to someone else , not the federal government. Legally. A more legitimate claim is that we need to get rid of people like you who want to destroy this fine country. end of line... You cocksuckers couldn't do it in over 400 years, ad it wasn't for a lack of trying. The evil you have visited upon my people has not been forgotten, or forgiven. There are more of us now than when you got here 400,000,000 Amerindians :cruisewulfu: Sleep well. Hey Asshole,You lost. |
The Texas Patriot User ID: 75506083 United States 07/16/2020 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone....& I mean anyone touches a single grave in Arlington, Elizabeth Warren will be the 1st to die and then the terrorist's that followed her orders will be next! These IDIOTS are pushing stuff that they cannot back up! Make your move and you DIE like a RAT! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79137353 United States 07/16/2020 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad is a WWII vet and both of my parents are buried at a National Cemetery. This sets a horrible precedent. What happens when someone decides the War he fought in was wrong and decides to desecrate my parent's graves? They already are showing no respect to the flag, the national anthem...at what point do they start destroying the graves of all our veterans? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79121563 My sickening thought exactly. Both mom and dad are buried in veteran cemetery; both were US Marines, WWII. I am just sickened by the perversion. |