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Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

 
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While we are all part of this creation, the CREATOR wants you to experience everything from YOUR individual point of view.

Your life experiences are shared to, and observed by what you could say is the CREATOR of "THE ALL".
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Great comment AC. Thanks for contributing.
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In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.
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Different perspectives come from the fact that we are all individuals - hence we perceive from our unique perspectives. This is no different from siblings who perceive their parents differently. It is also the same as the following example. Fout people sitting on four sides of a table. in the center of the table sits a mug. For one, the handle is on the left side, for another, it is on the right, for another it is in front and for the last - there is no handle. Same mug, four perspectives. Same parents, perceived differently by siblings. Same God, yet perceived differently by each of the individual worshippers.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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My question is directed to sotl about Jesus bring God's kingdom when he returns. Does Jesus establish God's kingdom on earth and rule over it as much ng when he returns?
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No scripture states that Jesus 'brings the kingdom of God / Heaven to Earth'.

Father God's throne - and the Father Himself - remain in Heaven - until He creates the NEW Heaven and New Earth - and the New Jerusalem is lowered to Earth.
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While we are all part of this creation, the CREATOR wants you to experience everything from YOUR individual point of view.

Your life experiences are shared to, and observed by what you could say is the CREATOR of "THE ALL".
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Great comment AC. Thanks for contributing.
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Where does Father God EVER say that?

He doesn't.

It's NONSENSE that is made up by folks who disavow the God of the Bible - the only True God.

This is His Creation. He has rules. The Ten Commandments.

Not following them - or even worse - not Repenting of your disobedience - has grave effects.

As in NO Salvation.
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We may be already in the period that Satan has been loosed to deceive the nations and are now waiting for the alpha and Omega to bring God's kingdom.
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NOPE.

We haven't even entered the Great Tribulation yet.

When was 'the son of perdition' revealed? It hasnt' happened yet.

And....Satan doesn't get loosed' until AFTER the First Resurrection. That definitely hasn't happened.

Read Matthew 24 - then Revelation 6 thru 9.

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I created the world and I created it Equalle.
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Man makes God in his image.
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Man makes God in his image.
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How did Chirstianity spread so fast?

Part of it had to do with belief in a 'god-man'.

Gentiles had no problem with it.

Sumerian texts show this.

Yet the Bible clearly states 'God is not a man'.

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In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.
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New age pagan heresy.
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We may be already in the period that Satan has been loosed to deceive the nations and are now waiting for the alpha and Omega to bring God's kingdom.
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NOPE.

We haven't even entered the Great Tribulation yet.

When was 'the son of perdition' revealed? It hasnt' happened yet.

And....Satan doesn't get loosed' until AFTER the First Resurrection. That definitely hasn't happened.

Read Matthew 24 - then Revelation 6 thru 9.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


You should qualify that. It has not happened at least according to the false history that we have been taught. Who knows? We all have only been alive for less than 100 years. There are things that my grandfather told me that have already been changed in the history books.

Remember that Satan is the god of this world and is the father of lies. You cannot trust most of what is out there as far as written history.

Virtually everything outside of ourselves is an illusion and lie. A narrative that the controllers have created to keep people believing the lie.

It is time to wake up to their tricks. If you can't see the lies being exposed every day, you are not paying attention.

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In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


Different perspectives come from the fact that we are all individuals - hence we perceive from our unique perspectives. This is no different from siblings who perceive their parents differently. It is also the same as the following example. Fout people sitting on four sides of a table. in the center of the table sits a mug. For one, the handle is on the left side, for another, it is on the right, for another it is in front and for the last - there is no handle. Same mug, four perspectives. Same parents, perceived differently by siblings. Same God, yet perceived differently by each of the individual worshippers.
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Good analogy! Thanks for sharing and contributing!
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My question is directed to sotl about Jesus bring God's kingdom when he returns. Does Jesus establish God's kingdom on earth and rule over it as much ng when he returns?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84149868

No scripture states that Jesus 'brings the kingdom of God / Heaven to Earth'.

Father God's throne - and the Father Himself - remain in Heaven - until He creates the NEW Heaven and New Earth - and the New Jerusalem is lowered to Earth.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


The Creator likely did not give us all the plans and details.

Be careful to not put the Creator in a box just because something may not be recorded in the Bible.

The Creator can and will do according to ITs plans.

The Creator could even go back and change things that have already happened as the Creator is outside of our time and is eternal. The Creator sees the end from the beginning and the beginning from the end.
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Because the mind works in terms of cause and effect
and different people go through different experiences, so their understanding of how A leads to B, is going to vary.

But this is by God's will

God could easily make things clear, for everyone.

But for whatever reason, he doesn't want to

It's not really for humans to question why. It's beyond us. somethings just aren't meant to be known, we have to have the humility to accept that.
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Because the creator is unlimited.
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While we are all part of this creation, the CREATOR wants you to experience everything from YOUR individual point of view.

Your life experiences are shared to, and observed by what you could say is the CREATOR of "THE ALL".
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Great comment AC. Thanks for contributing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Where does Father God EVER say that?

He doesn't.

It's NONSENSE that is made up by folks who disavow the God of the Bible - the only True God.

This is His Creation. He has rules. The Ten Commandments.

Not following them - or even worse - not Repenting of your disobedience - has grave effects.

As in NO Salvation.
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Saved from what, again? I don't think I need to be saved by anyone or anything. The last thing I want is for someone to die for my sins. And, your book is one of many. It's only special to you.
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In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.
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New age pagan heresy.
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Actually not New Age. There are many things in New Age that appear in other places. Take a look at this link:

[link to www.sparknotes.com (secure)]

Here are some excerpts (less than 50%):

"God existed in the form of pure energy in the time before creation. The power of God’s energy was so vast that it prevented anything else from existing in the universe. To make room for the human race and everything else in the universe, God first had to recoil into itself. In the process of withdrawal, God’s identity shattered, dispersing God’s energy throughout the universe."

Our role is to use the energy the Creator provided to love others and treat others like ourselves in order to assist the return of the energy back to its' source - the Creator.
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Because the mind works in terms of cause and effect
and different people go through different experiences, so their understanding of how A leads to B, is going to vary.

But this is by God's will

God could easily make things clear, for everyone.

But for whatever reason, he doesn't want to

It's not really for humans to question why. It's beyond us. somethings just aren't meant to be known, we have to have the humility to accept that.
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It seems to be part of our journey.
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Because people are closed minded.

God is so far beyond us that things that seem impossible don't have to be true or false at all.

If You think not, maybe You'r lacking in faith.

If I said God is Fat! and then said,
God is Skinny! would You not believe me?

Arragance is not understanding that He/She is beyond us.

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Because people are closed minded.

God is so far beyond us that things that seem impossible don't have to be true or false at all.

If You think not, maybe You'r lacking in faith.

If I said God is Fat! and then said,
God is Skinny! would You not believe me?

Arragance is not understanding that He/She is beyond us.

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When a person sincerely tries and is able to see another's perspective, their awareness increases to get a bigger glimpse at what the Creator sees as It looks through the eyes of all and every possible perspective.
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In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.
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This ^^^ post could just as easily been written by a demon, or Satan himself.

Satan wants you to believe that there are "many" paths that lead to "truth" and to "life".

The very OPPOSITE of what Yeshua told us.

As soon as I saw your "source energy" comment, I knew for certain the "source" of your inspiration.
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Daniel Barzohar, you are profoundly deceived. I do not believe you are so evil. I'm sorry. You believe you are doing the right thing. I dont know how to help you. You would even say, you don't need help. You would treat me fondly and with understanding. Yet I am watching you tread the path of self-destruction. I pray for God to be merciful to you. Your words helped me in a difficult time. At that time I was on the same path as you. I am not, anymore.

Regarding the "perspectives" of the Creator, there is only one that is important more than all the rest and that is the "perspective" which understands the Will of the God (who you cannot bring yourself to call God).

You can study the characteristics of God all you like, never forget that God is holy. There are some things which cannot be forgiven. This isn't because God is upset at you. It is because God is holy.

Helping others feel better about their journey to damnation will not amount to any good. Instead, it will only deceive them further. Those who are friends with the enemies of God, themselves are the enemies of God.
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THERE ARE A INFINITE NUMBER OF TRUTHS

EACH ONE IS A PERCEPTION OF WHAT THAT REALITY IS

HOWEVER

THERE IS ONLY ONE

THE TRUTH

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING

JESUS CHRIST

IN HIM YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH A INFINITE NUMBER OF PERCEPTIONS

A INFINITE NUMBER OF TRUTHS

THAT ALWAYS LEADS TO DEATH
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Damnation of the wicked is not the will of God

Ezekiel 18:32
For I take no pleasure in anyone's death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live!

Job 37:23
The Almighty is beyond our reach; He is exalted in power! In His justice and great righteousness He does not oppress.


It is an outcome of their unclean contact with the Holy (the basis of their perspective of God is contradictory, it is destroyed)

Psalm 145:20
The Lord keeps all who love Him,
But all the wicked He will destroy.

Job 36:6
“He does not keep the wicked alive,
But gives justice to the afflicted.

In case you doubt it, especially if you feel pretty good while on the path of damnation, or have other "confirming evidence" of your "own perspective" that tells you it's okay to do what you are doing even if it goes against the will of God

Psalm 92:7
That when the wicked sprouted up like grass
And all who did iniquity flourished,
It was only that they might be destroyed forevermore.

The "perspectives of God" which go against his will and profoundly deceive their worshippers with temporary gains and pleasures (entirely based on contradicting God's will)

James 4:4
You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God


In conclusion, leading others astray and comforting them on the path of damnation is contradictory to the will of God and makes you an enemy of God, no matter how well you became familiar with God's characteristics "in your perspective", you are on the path that leads to ultimate rejection of you and you will hear "I never knew you".


Repent.
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Daniel Barzohar, you are profoundly deceived. I do not believe you are so evil. I'm sorry. You believe you are doing the right thing. I dont know how to help you. You would even say, you don't need help. You would treat me fondly and with understanding. Yet I am watching you tread the path of self-destruction. I pray for God to be merciful to you. Your words helped me in a difficult time. At that time I was on the same path as you. I am not, anymore.

Regarding the "perspectives" of the Creator, there is only one that is important more than all the rest and that is the "perspective" which understands the Will of the God (who you cannot bring yourself to call God).

You can study the characteristics of God all you like, never forget that God is holy. There are some things which cannot be forgiven. This isn't because God is upset at you. It is because God is holy.

Helping others feel better about their journey to damnation will not amount to any good. Instead, it will only deceive them further. Those who are friends with the enemies of God, themselves are the enemies of God.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


I appreciate your comments and sincerity. I don't use the term God, because it is a title that means different things to different people.

Better terms would be King of the Universe, or the Creator, or the Source of all that is, or the Almighty. There is only one true and holy one. Whatever that being is is beyond our human comprehension.

I encourage all to sincerely seek the Holy One and establish a spiritual relationship to know that being and walk daily with the King. It is more than a head knowledge as it involves a connection with the spirit of the Almighty within us.

I encourage all to stay true to the Path that the Almighty has for them. Those that sincerely seek will find the King of the Universe.

Again, thanks for your concern. It is a world of lies controlled by Satan and only the love of the Almighty can show us the way.

Blessings to you.
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Damnation of the wicked is not the will of God

Ezekiel 18:32
For I take no pleasure in anyone's death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live!

Job 37:23
The Almighty is beyond our reach; He is exalted in power! In His justice and great righteousness He does not oppress.


It is an outcome of their unclean contact with the Holy (the basis of their perspective of God is contradictory, it is destroyed)

Psalm 145:20
The Lord keeps all who love Him,
But all the wicked He will destroy.

Job 36:6
“He does not keep the wicked alive,
But gives justice to the afflicted.

In case you doubt it, especially if you feel pretty good while on the path of damnation, or have other "confirming evidence" of your "own perspective" that tells you it's okay to do what you are doing even if it goes against the will of God

Psalm 92:7
That when the wicked sprouted up like grass
And all who did iniquity flourished,
It was only that they might be destroyed forevermore.

The "perspectives of God" which go against his will and profoundly deceive their worshippers with temporary gains and pleasures (entirely based on contradicting God's will)

James 4:4
You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God


In conclusion, leading others astray and comforting them on the path of damnation is contradictory to the will of God and makes you an enemy of God, no matter how well you became familiar with God's characteristics "in your perspective", you are on the path that leads to ultimate rejection of you and you will hear "I never knew you".


Repent.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


Great verses, thanks for sharing. Love and living by the Almighty's spirit is the path I share.

Repentance or teshuva is returning to the Creator as the Almighty never left us. Instead we left the Creator by allowing our ego and pride to drown out the Holy Spirit's direction.

Thanks for contributing.
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Daniel Barzohar, you are profoundly deceived. I do not believe you are so evil. I'm sorry. You believe you are doing the right thing. I dont know how to help you. You would even say, you don't need help. You would treat me fondly and with understanding. Yet I am watching you tread the path of self-destruction. I pray for God to be merciful to you. Your words helped me in a difficult time. At that time I was on the same path as you. I am not, anymore.

Regarding the "perspectives" of the Creator, there is only one that is important more than all the rest and that is the "perspective" which understands the Will of the God (who you cannot bring yourself to call God).

You can study the characteristics of God all you like, never forget that God is holy. There are some things which cannot be forgiven. This isn't because God is upset at you. It is because God is holy.

Helping others feel better about their journey to damnation will not amount to any good. Instead, it will only deceive them further. Those who are friends with the enemies of God, themselves are the enemies of God.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


I appreciate your comments and sincerity. I don't use the term God, because it is a title that means different things to different people.

Better terms would be King of the Universe, or the Creator, or the Source of all that is, or the Almighty. There is only one true and holy one. Whatever that being is is beyond our human comprehension.

I encourage all to sincerely seek the Holy One and establish a spiritual relationship to know that being and walk daily with the King. It is more than a head knowledge as it involves a connection with the spirit of the Almighty within us.

I encourage all to stay true to the Path that the Almighty has for them. Those that sincerely seek will find the King of the Universe.

Again, thanks for your concern. It is a world of lies controlled by Satan and only the love of the Almighty can show us the way.

Blessings to you.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Contradicting this statement of the Son of God is rejecting Him as Son of God. Teaching others "other ways" to God contradicts the will of God who sent his Son.

You may not believe in the Son of God but he is the Son of God despite your unbelief.

There is no other way to the Father, whom you call King of the Universe. Jesus Christ is the only way.

To those who sincerely seek relationship with the Holy One, to teach them they can "bypass" the Son of God is not only dangerous, it is in opposition to God's Will, setting them on a path to damnation.

There is only Jesus Christ, or the world of lies you call the kingdom of Satan.

If you do not serve Jesus Christ, you serve the world of lies.
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Damnation of the wicked is not the will of God

Ezekiel 18:32
For I take no pleasure in anyone's death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live!

Job 37:23
The Almighty is beyond our reach; He is exalted in power! In His justice and great righteousness He does not oppress.


It is an outcome of their unclean contact with the Holy (the basis of their perspective of God is contradictory, it is destroyed)

Psalm 145:20
The Lord keeps all who love Him,
But all the wicked He will destroy.

Job 36:6
“He does not keep the wicked alive,
But gives justice to the afflicted.

In case you doubt it, especially if you feel pretty good while on the path of damnation, or have other "confirming evidence" of your "own perspective" that tells you it's okay to do what you are doing even if it goes against the will of God

Psalm 92:7
That when the wicked sprouted up like grass
And all who did iniquity flourished,
It was only that they might be destroyed forevermore.

The "perspectives of God" which go against his will and profoundly deceive their worshippers with temporary gains and pleasures (entirely based on contradicting God's will)

James 4:4
You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God


In conclusion, leading others astray and comforting them on the path of damnation is contradictory to the will of God and makes you an enemy of God, no matter how well you became familiar with God's characteristics "in your perspective", you are on the path that leads to ultimate rejection of you and you will hear "I never knew you".


Repent.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


Great verses, thanks for sharing. Love and living by the Almighty's spirit is the path I share.

Repentance or teshuva is returning to the Creator as the Almighty never left us. Instead we left the Creator by allowing our ego and pride to drown out the Holy Spirit's direction.

Thanks for contributing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


Live by His Will, not indulging in His Spirit for the lusts of the deceived life, being drunk as with the whore of babylon together in a "many paths" world to nowhere. There is no "leeway" of interpretation, there is only the patience and mercy which gives you a chance to the end, whether you choose your own will, or the will of God.

The Almighty leaves. Do not be deceived.

41 “Then you answered me, ‘We have sinned against the Lord. We ourselves will go up and fight, just as the Lord our God commanded us.’ And every one of you fastened on his weapons of war and thought it easy to go up into the hill country. 42 And the Lord said to me, ‘Say to them, Do not go up or fight, for I am not in your midst, lest you be defeated before your enemies.’ 43 So I spoke to you, and you would not listen; but you rebelled against the command of the Lord and presumptuously went up into the hill country. 44 Then the Amorites who lived in that hill country came out against you and chased you as bees do and beat you down in Seir as far as Hormah. 45 And you returned and wept before the Lord, but the Lord did not listen to your voice or give ear to you.
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Daniel Barzohar, you are profoundly deceived. I do not believe you are so evil. I'm sorry. You believe you are doing the right thing. I dont know how to help you. You would even say, you don't need help. You would treat me fondly and with understanding. Yet I am watching you tread the path of self-destruction. I pray for God to be merciful to you. Your words helped me in a difficult time. At that time I was on the same path as you. I am not, anymore.

Regarding the "perspectives" of the Creator, there is only one that is important more than all the rest and that is the "perspective" which understands the Will of the God (who you cannot bring yourself to call God).

You can study the characteristics of God all you like, never forget that God is holy. There are some things which cannot be forgiven. This isn't because God is upset at you. It is because God is holy.

Helping others feel better about their journey to damnation will not amount to any good. Instead, it will only deceive them further. Those who are friends with the enemies of God, themselves are the enemies of God.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


I appreciate your comments and sincerity. I don't use the term God, because it is a title that means different things to different people.

Better terms would be King of the Universe, or the Creator, or the Source of all that is, or the Almighty. There is only one true and holy one. Whatever that being is is beyond our human comprehension.

I encourage all to sincerely seek the Holy One and establish a spiritual relationship to know that being and walk daily with the King. It is more than a head knowledge as it involves a connection with the spirit of the Almighty within us.

I encourage all to stay true to the Path that the Almighty has for them. Those that sincerely seek will find the King of the Universe.

Again, thanks for your concern. It is a world of lies controlled by Satan and only the love of the Almighty can show us the way.

Blessings to you.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Contradicting this statement of the Son of God is rejecting Him as Son of God. Teaching others "other ways" to God contradicts the will of God who sent his Son.

You may not believe in the Son of God but he is the Son of God despite your unbelief.

There is no other way to the Father, whom you call King of the Universe. Jesus Christ is the only way.

To those who sincerely seek relationship with the Holy One, to teach them they can "bypass" the Son of God is not only dangerous, it is in opposition to God's Will, setting them on a path to damnation.

There is only Jesus Christ, or the world of lies you call the kingdom of Satan.

If you do not serve Jesus Christ, you serve the world of lies.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


I appreciate your concern and love you are demonstrating. I follow the example of Yashua (Jesus) by knowing his teachings and following his example. He said that the Kingdom of God is within and instructed us to be one with his father as he was.

In the New Testament in Luke 17:20-21 it states “Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” (NKJV)

So what exactly does it mean when it says that the kingdom of God is within you?

Humans are a composite of eternal and physical. We have a physical body and conscious mind that interact with the physical world that we live in. We also have an eternal soul that is really who we are. Consequently we have two natures. The soul consists of spirit from the higher, heavenly dimensions while the body God clothed us with was an animal body with an animal nature. This animal nature was needed for survival in the hostile lower dimensions that we reside in. The two natures constantly struggle against each other. The soul strives for doing what is right and good while the animal body strives to satisfy only physical needs. Those who successfully deal with this struggle become more spiritual, service minding humans desiring to serve God and their fellow man while those that allow the physical animal to dominate become just that – animals.

It is the eternal soul that resides in our subconscious where we connect to the heavenly dimensions through prayer. Prayer works to pierce into the heavenly dimensions by taking the thoughts of our conscious mind and powering them with passion and emotion to energize the thoughts and send them into those heavenly dimensions where the Creator and His angels reside. This is the process of interacting, connecting and living in the kingdom of God. It is allowing God and His word to reside and come to life in the innermost part of your being – your soul. It is who you really are connecting with who God really is and becoming one with Him. Just as God is one, we strive to be one with Him! “For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” Look deep into your soul as you connect with God and His word and make it so. That is the process of working out your salvation with fear and trembling.

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Daniel Barzohar, you are profoundly deceived. I do not believe you are so evil. I'm sorry. You believe you are doing the right thing. I dont know how to help you. You would even say, you don't need help. You would treat me fondly and with understanding. Yet I am watching you tread the path of self-destruction. I pray for God to be merciful to you. Your words helped me in a difficult time. At that time I was on the same path as you. I am not, anymore.

Regarding the "perspectives" of the Creator, there is only one that is important more than all the rest and that is the "perspective" which understands the Will of the God (who you cannot bring yourself to call God).

You can study the characteristics of God all you like, never forget that God is holy. There are some things which cannot be forgiven. This isn't because God is upset at you. It is because God is holy.

Helping others feel better about their journey to damnation will not amount to any good. Instead, it will only deceive them further. Those who are friends with the enemies of God, themselves are the enemies of God.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


I appreciate your comments and sincerity. I don't use the term God, because it is a title that means different things to different people.

Better terms would be King of the Universe, or the Creator, or the Source of all that is, or the Almighty. There is only one true and holy one. Whatever that being is is beyond our human comprehension.

I encourage all to sincerely seek the Holy One and establish a spiritual relationship to know that being and walk daily with the King. It is more than a head knowledge as it involves a connection with the spirit of the Almighty within us.

I encourage all to stay true to the Path that the Almighty has for them. Those that sincerely seek will find the King of the Universe.

Again, thanks for your concern. It is a world of lies controlled by Satan and only the love of the Almighty can show us the way.

Blessings to you.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Contradicting this statement of the Son of God is rejecting Him as Son of God. Teaching others "other ways" to God contradicts the will of God who sent his Son.

You may not believe in the Son of God but he is the Son of God despite your unbelief.

There is no other way to the Father, whom you call King of the Universe. Jesus Christ is the only way.

To those who sincerely seek relationship with the Holy One, to teach them they can "bypass" the Son of God is not only dangerous, it is in opposition to God's Will, setting them on a path to damnation.

There is only Jesus Christ, or the world of lies you call the kingdom of Satan.

If you do not serve Jesus Christ, you serve the world of lies.
 Quoting: Something Worth Learning


I appreciate your concern and love you are demonstrating.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


If this is true, then I ask in the name of the Son of God Jesus Christ and the Mercy of God the Father to give some concern and love to enemies of God. You comfort them, confusing this with concern and love, making them lukewarm and complacent in the world, more susceptible to lies and temptations.

And I don't believe you are taking any responsibility for them, but you will answer for the loss of every soul and I will be there in judgment, with a clear conscience so that you will not be able to meet me there and say

"Why didn't you tell me"

I told you.
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