Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Contradicting this statement of the Son of God is rejecting Him as Son of God. Teaching others "other ways" to God contradicts the will of God who sent his Son.

You may not believe in the Son of God but he is the Son of God despite your unbelief.

There is no other way to the Father, whom you call King of the Universe. Jesus Christ is the only way.

To those who sincerely seek relationship with the Holy One, to teach them they can "bypass" the Son of God is not only dangerous, it is in opposition to God's Will, setting them on a path to damnation.

There is only Jesus Christ, or the world of lies you call the kingdom of Satan.

If you do not serve Jesus Christ, you serve the world of lies.

The Father Himself TOLD Jesus what to say.

NOT the Spirit of Truth.

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John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,
When ye have lifted up the Son of man,

then shall ye know that I am he,

and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath taught me,
I speak these things.


...The Father GAVE Jesus the Revelation


Revelation 1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

which God gave unto him,

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

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'Co-existent'???

Seperate - NOT equal. The Spirit does the Father's Will just like Jesus does.

1. How does the The Father SEND the Holy Spirit - like at Pentecost? The Father didn't 'send Himself'.

2. So Father God landed on Jesus shoulder at His Baptism?

3. Thread: Bible Study - Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost / Spirit of the LORD etc...

4. The Father is Sovereign. The Lord's Prayer makes NO mention of the Holy Spirit.

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study

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John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 15:26 "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,

John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

But as I showed you through various scriptures would you chose to ignore....

The Father Himself TOLD Jesus what to say.

NOT the Spirit of Truth.

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John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,
When ye have lifted up the Son of man,

then shall ye know that I am he,

and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath taught me,
I speak these things.


...The Father GAVE Jesus the Revelation


Revelation 1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

which God gave unto him,

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

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Seperate - NOT equal. The Spirit does the Father's Will just like Jesus does.

The Lord's Prayer isn't addressed to 'the Trinity'.

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study

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The Father SENT Jesus.
The Father SENDS the Holy Spirit.

That requires AUTHORITY and power.

0. The Father says "I am God - there is NO ONE else".
- Isaiah 46:9 and maybe 10 other verses.

00. Jesus SAID the Father is the
"only TRUE God" and "His God - OUR God".
- John 17:3, John 20:17 and Revelation 3:12.

000. Jesus NEVER said this phrase "I am God".

0000. Jesus NEVER said this phrase "call me God".

1. Jesus NEVER said "pray to me" NOR "worship me".

2. Jesus NEVER said to pray to ANYONE other than the Father.

3. NO one says this phrase - "Jesus is God".

4. Jesus NEVER says "pray to" nor "worship the Holy Spirit".

5. The word "trinity" isn't in the Bible.

6. The trinity "concept" didn't start unil the middle of the 2nd Century.

God-Father
Jesus-Son
Spirit-Holy Ghost

Seems like a legit holy trinity to me.

The idea of a 'god-man' is the result of the Fallen angels. The Nephilim had unique abilities / 'super-powers'. Even totally human kings and rulers declared themselves 'god' in the several millenia before Jesus was Sent to earth.

The belief in 'god-men' existed after the Nephilim came into being. The Sumerian and Egyptian texts prove this.

Where did the 'trinity' concept / teaching actually coome from?

How about Plato - 450 years before Jesus was known to the world?

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The "Trinity" didn't exist - nor was even taught by Jesus OR the Apostles.

The first of the early church fathers to be recorded using the word "Trinity" was Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century.

He defines the Trinity as God, His Word (Logos) and His Wisdom (Sophia) in the context of a discussion of the first three days of creation, following the early Christian practice of identifying the Holy Spirit as the Wisdom of God.

The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas",[47] though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine.

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The "filioque" was added to the Nicene Creed at the Council of Toledo in 589. It was basically the FULL beginning of the "God the Son" trinity.

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Just sharing my perspective friend, which is that this trinity was around the first time the immaterial became material, which I suppose one might consider the big bang. Though it might not have been big at all, who could say? This trinity will have many representations and can be found in every culture. Please for all that is good, do not give an Italian anything more or less then a three espresso bean garnish!

Just sharing my perspective friend..


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Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study

Excuse my ignorance, Is Jesus not credited with performing miracles or manifestation, which is creation? I feel he was attempting to teach others to connect with a limited conceptual vocabulary to those who had even less grasp on language.

Now imagine of his story being weaponized, the great teachers work used to control those who it was meant to free. Everything turned in on itself, bizarro world. Instead of learning to connect, as he was obviously attempting to teach, we are mired in materialistic malice. Cant say I believe in coincidences any more or just about anything else they have tried to condition with. Its pretty much all a lie.

The kingdom of heaven is inside of Jesus who is basically an incarnation of the creator

Lollls! That is definitely not sotl's quote! S o t l is incapable of having intelligent articulative conversation! The quote feature is muffing up again

In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.

Your version of such is to make shit up about about what Jesus actually said.

You read ancient propaganda that is anti-Semitic and claim it as 'truth' - while claiming the Bible is 'lies'.

Yet there isn't ONE person, place nor event in the Bible that you can actually PROVE to be a lie / false.

So are you saying that was your quote? Because I'm pretty sure it was not. And when did I say there isn't one person place or event in the Bible that I can actually prove to be a lie or a false.? When did I say that? If you can't show where I said that then why are you lying about it? And how do you know what I read? When have I said what I read? Why do you continually make false accusations and lies against people?

You really are a snake...

You're a gnostic.

You blaspheme the Living God of the Bible - the Only True God.

You're the snake.