Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

Yes we are all servants of God. You are focused on man being above angels and missed OPs point that God created a hierarchy of beings in His creation. You base your opinion on a couple of verses while OP cites verses to show there is a hierarchy with man above animals and God above man. OP also states that the arch angels are under God yet above man while lower angels are serving God as messengers to man and are below man.

I agree with OP. Everyone has opinions on what verses mean and my understanding is about the same as OPs.

People are free to believe and think what they want as nobody has perfect knowledge of God. We only speculate as we think about God based on the Bible.

Servant-of-the-lord please answer these questions so that I am clear on your view of things:

1) Do Gabriel and Michael serve God?

2) Did God make a hiearchy of his creation putting man over animals and angels and man in between Himself and the rest of creation?

3) Are the Arch Angels above other angels?

4) Did God put a chief prince angel over each country to govern it and do these angels battle each other?

5) Who is the god of this world?

6) Who is the King of the Universe, Master of Legions?

I have my opinions on answers to these questions and want to hear what you think?

Oh, servant-of-the-lord here is another thing I wondered about. Do you just take scripture to only be literal or do you think there is deeper meaning from metaphors and symbolism?

Just because we judge angels does not mean that they are not now higher than us. Maybe after our judgement those approved by God will then be over the angels and judge the angels at that point in time. You are assuming that verse in Corinthians speaks to the present when it clearly says shall referring to a future time. The hierarchy we have now could change in the future.

Verses 6-8 in Hebrews 2 support that man is currently lower than angels as was the son of man (Jesus), when he left to become a man.

That you embrace the Bible with passion is wonderful.

The Bible tells of unnormal extra ordinary abilities including parting a sea and raising the dead which followers readily accept. Then perhaps we should extend that courtesy by keeping a more open mind to other concepts from people with different perspectives than our own.

We are not here randomly. And souls are a part of God, and so souls are divine, eternal, and infinite. A part of God, not from God. So what does that make us?

What many call God is not a single human looking individual entity. God is a confluence of intelligent multi-dimensional quantum energies biased in love, compassion, benevolence, and joy. A meld of benevolent energies that are all interconnected, intertwined, and entangled to become oneness and all knowing.

Imagine if we all have built-in super ultra fast wireless internet connecting all of our minds in a benevolent manner and able to instantly share benevolent thoughts across the universe. Could a hierarchy or superiority ranking possibly exist. No, and so stories of wars in Heaven, archangels that rank highest of all angels, and fallen angels are just man made stories.

Yes, energies could have biases. Love, consciousness, good thoughts, and bad thoughts are all energies at different frequencies and vibrations.

Multi-dimensional means an object could exists in many places at the same moment. God exists everywhere and anywhere, and so human concepts of time and space don't matter. Some scientists are beginning to uncover that now.

Quantum means that energy could exist in the smallest of the small and the biggest of the big.

God is within us, around us, and beyond.

As Nikola Tesla had uncovered, to know the secret to the universe think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.

We are all expressions of God here in the human form having a fun human adventure of finding ourselves. To uncovering who we truly are and why we are here.

An adventure we made much more challenging by self imposing a Veil of Forgetfulness to not remember our divinity and feel separated from God, and also giving ourselves free will to freely choose with minimal divine intervention.

Left alone without much wisdom and benevolent maturity, what then will we freely choose between light and dark.

And when we choose light and grow up spiritually to love, we assist with gradually transforming this young world, that is by design at the infancy of spirituality, to become a paradise.

And contrary to popular beliefs, this adventure can't be accomplished in just one short lifetime. Our human ego thinking will persuade us to never return to this chaotic world, but at our soul level we will want to return with great passion to improve on what we had done or to try something completely different.

We are magnificent beings with far more extra ordinary benevolent abilities than what we have been told or trained out of believing. And the key to unlocking those abilities is love. It is then no coincidence that all wise benevolent messengers throughout the ages taught us to have love for oneself, for others, and for everything, including our enemies and those who have different perspectives than our own.

The dark, which are a group of humans choosing to strongly embrace the ego that knows not of love, gratitude, compassion, and equality, benefits greatly from suppressing or denying our spiritual growth by constantly keeping us in anxiety and fear.

Love God, not fear God.

Honor God, not worship God.

Be in unity with God, not be a servant to God.

The Word of God will always be caring, kind, understanding, compassionate, uplifting, and empowering to encourage and inspire us to grow spiritually to love.

Careful of any teachings claiming to be the Word of God that put fear in us, belittle us, divide us, make us more confused, or put us in a hierarchy of superiority. Those teachings are from humans still under the strong influence of the ego.

It takes many human lifetimes of free will exploring to experience both good and bad, and choosing to learn and improve from them to be able to reach a greater state of awareness to see a little more of the big picture and begin uncovering who we truly are.

We are living in only a tiny fraction of the vast grand whole reality. There is still a lot more knowledge waiting for us to uncover. And the more knowledge we come across, the more we will realize how little we know.

Indeed this adventure is neither an easy nor a short one. Just the way we wanted it when we passionately signed up for this amazing adventure while in our true home on the other side of the Veil.

I NEVER said there wasn't a 'hierarchy' in Heaven.

The fact that we humans should 'take heed' to what the angels say to us does NOT make them 'above us'. They merely 'relay' what God said TO them.

You folks just don't accept this - and push your 'angels above humans' doctrine.

Angels don't have 'domain' over anything.

Humans have 'domain' over Earth.

God said so.

Because if he's gonna stay in hiding, anything goes.

No human in the Bible had 'super powers'.

God did ALL of it.

Souls are NOT 'divine' by default just because they are a part of God's creation.

God is NOT a 'collective'.

Gnostic gnonsensical philosphy.

WOW! Thanks for the great post AC 293!

Hopefully the Servant-of-the-Lord will answer your questions so that we understand his opinion of scripture.

There is the word of the Creator and then there is man's interpretation of what that word means. There is no value in arguing about what scripture means as only the Creator knows for sure. It is valuable to discuss scripture and compare opinions to try to get closer to what it may mean.

What you said above is absolutely Biblical. The Word of God is the Source Code...



The Word manifests our reality...

Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear"

The Holy Ghost is Electromagnetism, and it has an awareness. The Double Slit experiment proves it.

The Word of God is a vast Information Field of infinite Energy...

Hebrews 12:29
"For our God is a consuming fire."

The Word manifests as the Godhead/Trinity, which we call Atoms...



You will note that those that are anti-Trinitarian are completely blind to all of this and will often scream 'GNOSTIC HERESY!' due to their ignorance. They do more harm than good.

Anyhow, I have created a video for those interested in learning more...

THERE'S NO CREATOR!

If you knew your true place in the universe you would not be concerned with such things, because you don't matter at all. Trouble is, your ego demands more, and cannot accept that you are less than Dust in the wind.

Issa Asa

God doesnt want all his tardo children to be the same.

‘made in his own image’ is key, i think, in a tiger’s universe all tigers are made in their own image, in a tiger’s mind, the tiger makes the tiger a tiger

i.e. the creator is you

Book of Enoch is rubbish and heresie.

A very gnostic saying "as above, so below". We have a hierarical structure on earth, so common sense tells us heaven is no different....

I appreciate your contributions Base 12. Thanks!

This is very well said, as is much of your other posts to be honest. I think for others to understand better, they need to experience more. But to experience we have to learn to be connected to our environment via not having our mind run wild with thoughts.

You have a very succinct way of expressing these ideas well. Thank you for sharing.

I used 'select verses'?

You did too - to promote your false doctrine that angels are'higher' than humans.

The 2 verses I posted - you conveniently leave out of your 'theory' - your OWN opinion - because they PROVE your theory to be wrong.

- Angels are supposed to serve God inHeaven and wherever He sends them. Angels SENT to Daniel, Mary, John and others.

- Humans are supposed to serve God on Earth - whevever He may send them. Noah, Abraham, Moses - even Jesus was SENT.

UNLESS they use their 'free will' to disobey.

These are Biblical facts.

We're all servants of God.

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I NEVER said there wasn't a 'hierarchy' in Heaven.

The fact that we humans should 'take heed' to what the angels say to us does NOT make them 'above us'. They merely 'relay' what God said TO them.

You folks just don't accept this - and push your 'angels above humans' doctrine.

Angels don't have 'domain' over anything.

Humans have 'domain' over Earth.

God said so.

'Heresies'?? You're an idiot.

The 'sons of God' were of 'Seth/?

Thread: Does Enoch Explain the Jesus / Thief "Paradise" & the "Lazarus / Rich Man" Places?

Thread: Enoch: Instructions for Believers Living at the END + More

Thread: Aliens - Giants - Nephilim - Days of Noah - Enoch - All Flesh was Corrupted = Genetic Manipulation - Bible Study

This physical reality is hardly the base reality. Ultimately, the base reality is non physical in nature and any words or “stories” used to describe the creator pale in describing the creator or creation accurately. Creation in terms of physical manifestations can be anything and everything. It’s very hard to understand how creation works, if you don’t create yourself in the non physical. There’s a whole place just waiting to be explored and connected with and most don’t even have the slightest clue. Until that connection is made, it’s very hard for anyone to speak accurately on spiritual matters, and regurgitating words doesn’t mean anything without, “knowing”.

As far as religions texts are concerned. How can you know which parts aren’t changed in order to deceive? We know those in control are all about deception. Spiritual texts are less meaningful without direct experience/connection.

Good luck

1. Of course.

2. God gave domain over Earth to man.

3. Yes.

4. Angels don't 'govern' men. Show me the verse that says such. You can't.

5/6. There's only ONE God - the Father in Heaven.

Thread: Other 'gods' Never Existed - No Evidence - Only the Father in Heaven is a God - KJV Bible Study / World Religions

Thread: The Evidence for God, Jesus, Angels and the Historicity of the Bible.

Thread: A "Voice" in Your Head"? ASK who It Is. Bible Study - Scripture About Spirits

Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 09/14/2022 11:52 PM

Thanks for letting us know your answers to the questions posed by the anonymous poster.

You are welcome Tanoros!

Q. Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

A. Because there are 2 main groups of people.

1. Those who accept the God of the Bible as being the Creator.

2. Those who reject the God of the Bible.

There are subgroups of each but in the long run it won't matter.

Those who accept have a solid chance at Salvation.

Those who don't are destined to destruction unless they Repent and Believe.

Why focus on bullshit stories and ignore what's right in front of, above and all around you? I guess that involves pulling your heads out of your asses. No mean feat considering how far down/up there they are!

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