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Why do you still eat meat?

 
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
If it was God idea of something GOOd that animals were killed and their flesh eaten

or that any violence was good etc...

why isnt it in the description of Paradise?

why is it SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED..as ABSENT and the CONTRARY ..present?
 Quoting: wildhoney


To fall in line with this reasoning one needs to assume that a book written by men is infallible and that nothing can occur or exist that was not specified by a finite number of words in a finite book. Are you willing to place 100% trust in that assumption? I am not.

We live in a violent Universe WH... Why are there hurricanes, tornadoes, monster earthquakes, supervolcanos, meteors slamming into the Earth and wiping out species? To me it seems evident that the Universe was not designed to be non-violent and to preserve 'life' at costs. The Universe operates based on cycles of 'death' and 'rebirth'. It's cyclical and 'life' regenerates itself in one form or another.
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Only Gods Will matters, and He doesnt need our input, he knows how to make things perfect without our advice.
 Quoting: wildhoney


Why don't you just be honest with me and say that you don't know and can't answer the questions? : )
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
I love meat.
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
This negative energy is keeping us all from evolving..and SEEING the Paradise in my opinión..thats why we cant see it..through the fog of this negative energy..my opinión anyway
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yeah there's truth to this.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


And why is this allegedly happening? because we were TAUGHT AND TOLD..it was ok to do this..

We were LIED TO..allegedly

maybe thats why Christ said..the TRUTH will set us FREE?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Romans chapter 14 it tells us that no man should render one day above another to honor the Lord and no man should judge one who eats meat or does not eat meat.

Honestly, this ^^ should be the end of the debate for anyone that is of a Christian- based faith. In fact Jesus ate fish, served fish, and as He was present at passover meals we know he was offered lamb to eat. He did not think it prudent to leave behind a teaching regarding it.
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Hi wildhoneyhf

-still not ready to give up the fish!! I think Jesus had a taste for it himself...lol

I think I could live on a variety of fruit pies though...I do so love the pie!! -perhaps the greatest invention foodwise, like ever!!
-kinda feeling like a slice of apple, or rhubarb, with a slice of cheddar, 'bout now!! My grandparents, bless their souls, turned me onto the cheese and pie thing, seems odd, but it works!!banana2
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cheeses and pies... delicious!
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Only Gods Will matters, and He doesnt need our input, he knows how to make things perfect without our advice.
 Quoting: wildhoney


Why don't you just be honest with me and say that you don't know and can't answer the questions? : )
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Ill e honest and Ill say that I am really not bothered
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
If it was God idea of something GOOd that animals were killed and their flesh eaten

or that any violence was good etc...

why isnt it in the description of Paradise?

why is it SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED..as ABSENT and the CONTRARY ..present?
 Quoting: wildhoney


To fall in line with this reasoning one needs to assume that a book written by men is infallible and that nothing can occur or exist that was not specified by a finite number of words in a finite book. Are you willing to place 100% trust in that assumption? I am not.

We live in a violent Universe WH... Why are there hurricanes, tornadoes, monster earthquakes, supervolcanos, meteors slamming into the Earth and wiping out species? To me it seems evident that the Universe was not designed to be non-violent and to preserve 'life' at costs. The Universe operates based on cycles of 'death' and 'rebirth'. It's cyclical and 'life' regenerates itself in one form or another.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


11And he said, Go forth, and stand on the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and broke in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake: 12And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire:
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
There comes a point when Man must bow before God
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
If it was God idea of something GOOd that animals were killed and their flesh eaten

or that any violence was good etc...

why isnt it in the description of Paradise?

why is it SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED..as ABSENT and the CONTRARY ..present?
 Quoting: wildhoney


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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Have you tried not to?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes, but I'm pretty sure you're about to give me the good and bad's of eating meats.
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Have you tried not to?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes, but I'm pretty sure you're about to give me the good and bad's of eating meats.
 Quoting: Doer


I am very unpredictable :)
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
We consume life to sustain life, why arbitrate a difference in life?
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
To annoy you.

Time for some nice tender veal, yum!
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
We consume life to sustain life, why arbitrate a difference in life?
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Dead meat is hardly life dont you think?
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
We consume life to sustain life, why arbitrate a difference in life?
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Dead meat is hardly life dont you think?
 Quoting: wildhoney


But a seed of a plant..a fruit..literally contains life
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
To annoy you.

Time for some nice tender veal, yum!
 Quoting: Wookiee666


It doesnt annoy me..its saddens me..for the animals and for the people that eat the dead meat..for the energy of suffering in my opinión released from those por creatures..that in my opinión remains anchored to the energetic field of the earth affecting its vibration and ultimately us too
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
To me this is much more tan a dietary matter ..it is primarily a profound spiritual question..and a very very important one too in my opinion
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Hi wildhoneyhf

-still not ready to give up the fish!! I think Jesus had a taste for it himself...lol

I think I could live on a variety of fruit pies though...I do so love the pie!! -perhaps the greatest invention foodwise, like ever!!
-kinda feeling like a slice of apple, or rhubarb, with a slice of cheddar, 'bout now!! My grandparents, bless their souls, turned me onto the cheese and pie thing, seems odd, but it works!!banana2
 Quoting: Naga


cheeses and pies... delicious!
 Quoting: M1.618


I know, right!!!5a
 Quoting: Naga


Yummi cheer
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
I think we havent been told the truth since the beginnning ..and especially about the beginning..

that is the key..the reason of the fall..

the whole story has been in my opinión turned on its head..twisted around and mixed up..the truth hidden among lies..in my opinión..all of it..even heavenly matters regarding Angels..that was a naughty thing to do churchlady

I dont think they are amused..coffee4...at all
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Even the very nature..essence of God

since when does God have an image?

how can God who is Love be jealous and vindictive?

and so on and so forth
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
A very high pedestal has been built and on it Man has placed himself

and below it venerating him he has placed all of creation....even God himself has been delegated to a servant of Man..

he has elevated himself above everything and everyone..including God

this is unwise
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
he has justified suffering..and pain..hurt and misery

he has justified destruction

man has become God..and money his prophet
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Have you tried not to?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes. My body did not do well during this time period. I ate a wide variety of veggies and made sure to include complex plant proteins. I felt sickly and did poorly in school. Once i started to include meat back into my diet i felt better and did better.

Humans evolved to eat meat. Meat consumption is the reason our ancestors developed such large brains. Seriously, study evolutionary biology. If we all went back to a plant only diet over generations we will regress in intelligence as more bio energy will have to be spent processing food into usable stuff we need.

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I see nothing wrong with eating sentient beings. I personally draw the line at intelligent beings and semi intelligent beings ( creatures that over 500k years could have intelligence on par with humans).
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Have you tried not to?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes. My body did not do well during this time period. I ate a wide variety of veggies and made sure to include complex plant proteins. I felt sickly and did poorly in school. Once i started to include meat back into my diet i felt better and did better.

Humans evolved to eat meat. Meat consumption is the reason our ancestors developed such large brains. Seriously, study evolutionary biology. If we all went back to a plant only diet over generations we will regress in intelligence as more bio energy will have to be spent processing food into usable stuff we need.

[link to ruhlman.com]
[link to www.livescience.com]

I see nothing wrong with eating sentient beings. I personally draw the line at intelligent beings and semi intelligent beings ( creatures that over 500k years could have intelligence on par with humans).
 Quoting: Snickrot


I understand that some people find it physically difficult to not eat meat..

But to distinguish between intelligent and non intelligent as factor to determine what is edible is rather..shocking..with all due respect

I think not eating meat is a spiritual choice..and the spirit requires it when the body can adapt to the new diet..at least that is what I think

I stopped in my teens..I just decided one day..I am not eating meat anymore..and I just simply stopped..from that day onwards..never tried it again
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
he has justified suffering..and pain..hurt and misery

he has justified destruction

man has become God..and money his prophet
 Quoting: wildhoney


Heh. Life is equal parts heaven and hell. To be whole we must be an angel and a demon at once. One can not exist without the other.
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
he has justified suffering..and pain..hurt and misery

he has justified destruction

man has become God..and money his prophet
 Quoting: wildhoney


Heh. Life is equal parts heaven and hell. To be whole we must be an angel and a demon at once. One can not exist without the other.
 Quoting: Snickrot


In this duality..

This is a mixture..or swinging pendulum between positive and negative

this sustains and determines reality

the end times in my opinión..is an end to this

the wheat is separated from the chaff is another way of putting it

the positive separated from the negative

the positive then becomes Paradise on earth

the negative its opposite
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
I need the protein and nutrients...Especially zinc.

My body doesn't absorb vitamins when it comes in a muti-vitamin.

Domesticated cows and chickens are meant to be eaten.

You ever been around chickens?

Annoying and loud as fuck.

Lizards with feathers and tiny brains...


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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
he has justified suffering..and pain..hurt and misery

he has justified destruction

man has become God..and money his prophet
 Quoting: wildhoney


Heh. Life is equal parts heaven and hell. To be whole we must be an angel and a demon at once. One can not exist without the other.
 Quoting: Snickrot


In this duality..

This is a mixture..or swinging pendulum between positive and negative

this sustains and determines reality

the end times in my opinión..is an end to this

the wheat is separated from the chaff is another way of putting it

the positive separated from the negative

the positive then becomes Paradise on earth

the negative its opposite
 Quoting: wildhoney


and according to how we are..positive or negative..love or its opposite..we go to one or the other I think

we determine our destiny through choice and our spiritual nature or essence
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
Have you tried not to?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes. My body did not do well during this time period. I ate a wide variety of veggies and made sure to include complex plant proteins. I felt sickly and did poorly in school. Once i started to include meat back into my diet i felt better and did better.

Humans evolved to eat meat. Meat consumption is the reason our ancestors developed such large brains. Seriously, study evolutionary biology. If we all went back to a plant only diet over generations we will regress in intelligence as more bio energy will have to be spent processing food into usable stuff we need.

[link to ruhlman.com]
[link to www.livescience.com]

I see nothing wrong with eating sentient beings. I personally draw the line at intelligent beings and semi intelligent beings ( creatures that over 500k years could have intelligence on par with humans).
 Quoting: Snickrot


I understand that some people find it physically difficult to not eat meat..

But to distinguish between intelligent and non intelligent as factor to determine what is edible is rather..shocking..with all due respect

I think not eating meat is a spiritual choice..and the spirit requires it when the body can adapt to the new diet..at least that is what I think

I stopped in my teens..I just decided one day..I am not eating meat anymore..and I just simply stopped..from that day onwards..never tried it again
 Quoting: wildhoney


And that is your choice to stop. Over the course of one life it will not alter the human gene at all. But if everyone were to go vegan it would be harmful to the species over the course of millennia as more energy would be needed to process food rather then supply the brain. We would devolve. It is a simple evolutionary fact.

As for it being a spiritual choice, it maybe. But i don't begrudge the time i was the chicken and was slaughtered in this cycle of reincarnation. Nor to i begrudge the cow for eating me when i was a leaf. Nor to i begrudge the leaf for imprisoning me when i flew from the sun on wings of fire.

Everything is about balance. I will destroy when i need to and i will create when i need to. To only embrace creation or destruction is the definition of disharmony.
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Re: Why do you still eat meat?
I need the protein and nutrients...Especially zinc.

My body doesn't absorb vitamins when it comes in a muti-vitamin.

Domesticated cows and chickens are meant to be eaten.

You ever been around chickens?

Annoying and loud as fuck.

Lizards with feathers and tiny brains...



 Quoting: Rayrayz


Yes I have been around chickens..and they are adorable and very affectionate..and extremely intelligent

very loyal to their kin..

and respond to kindness and love





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