Christians and everyone else, do you accept Paul's gospel? It is of Christ | |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 76807596 United States 08/02/2018 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." Only 12 Apostles, he never even met Christ. Christ was dead and risen long before he claimed to be a Christian. The Truth hurts. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Revelation 2:2 ***Jesus chose 12 originally ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 76807596 United States 08/02/2018 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the grace of God and the dispensation of grace are two completely different things... not only did Paul bring this to the Gentiles, it was a hidden mystery given only to him, meaning Peter didn't have a clue... he was still going to temple, under the law, sacrifices are still going on... Nothing has changed for Peter and the other 11 other then believing Christ was the son of God... all priesthood Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 When the Holy Spirit tells us that Paul is our apostle, why don't you believe it... Christ COMMANDED the 12 NOT to take his message to the gentile world...why do you think it's to you?? Do you actually believe that Peter who along with Paul and the other apostles had the Holy Spirit did not know about Grace? Paul also was still going to the feasts and the temple. Read Acts. At one point he leaves the synagogue in hopes that he will return after the feast. Christ did command that the 11, not 12 take the word to the Gentiles and the world. This happened after his resurrection. I disagree. Jesus main mission was to Israel, but yet He didn't refuse Gentiles. ...the Centurian ...the Caananite woman "bread crumbs from the table" ...the Samaritans The ONLY time Jesus told the Apostles to NOT go to the Gentiles was when He sent them on their FIRST mission in Matthew 10 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. After that...Jesus told them these times... Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mark 14:9 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. Mark 16:15 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Matthew supposedly went as far as Ethiopia Thomas to India Peter supposedly went to Rome I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Photina
User ID: 75856962 Canada 08/02/2018 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is preaching on the earth to this day through the Bride and the Holy Spirit. Wake up to this fact. Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
The Natural Order
User ID: 76792351 Ireland 08/02/2018 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." Only 12 Apostles, he never even met Christ. Christ was dead and risen long before he claimed to be a Christian. The Truth hurts. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Revelation 2:2 so you think GOD'S word has lies in it, you call GOD a lier... you are an abomination in his sight.. You are a false witness. Repent or suffer the curse. No, God's word contains no lies. Saul's words are not God's words. Respect the Natural Order Patriot at heart Brilliance, not perfection! Patriarchy will not fall! The Great White Lion is rising! Protect the holy bloodline Fortune favors the brave Reinforcement is integral Equality is total nonsense [link to www.generation-identity.org.uk (secure)] |
The Natural Order
User ID: 76792351 Ireland 08/02/2018 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." Only 12 Apostles, he never even met Christ. Christ was dead and risen long before he claimed to be a Christian. The Truth hurts. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Revelation 2:2 ***Jesus chose 12 originally ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. Difference is they were allchosen by Christ. Unlike Saul Respect the Natural Order Patriot at heart Brilliance, not perfection! Patriarchy will not fall! The Great White Lion is rising! Protect the holy bloodline Fortune favors the brave Reinforcement is integral Equality is total nonsense [link to www.generation-identity.org.uk (secure)] |
Photina
User ID: 75856962 Canada 08/02/2018 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Corinthians 9:1 Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
Expose ALL Shills
(OP) User ID: 75409848 United States 08/02/2018 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. live and die for Christ |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 76250665 United States 08/02/2018 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. amen and amen my brother... freedomsnotfree1 |
The Natural Order
User ID: 76792351 Ireland 08/02/2018 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some idiot red karma'd me with see acts 9. The cop out argument of a fool who can't argue his point Respect the Natural Order Patriot at heart Brilliance, not perfection! Patriarchy will not fall! The Great White Lion is rising! Protect the holy bloodline Fortune favors the brave Reinforcement is integral Equality is total nonsense [link to www.generation-identity.org.uk (secure)] |
The Natural Order
User ID: 76792351 Ireland 08/02/2018 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stay in the dark, you don't deserve this light Respect the Natural Order Patriot at heart Brilliance, not perfection! Patriarchy will not fall! The Great White Lion is rising! Protect the holy bloodline Fortune favors the brave Reinforcement is integral Equality is total nonsense [link to www.generation-identity.org.uk (secure)] |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 76250665 United States 08/02/2018 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." Only 12 Apostles, he never even met Christ. Christ was dead and risen long before he claimed to be a Christian. The Truth hurts. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Revelation 2:2 so you think GOD'S word has lies in it, you call GOD a lier... you are an abomination in his sight.. You are a false witness. Repent or suffer the curse. No, God's word contains no lies. Saul's words are not God's words. ...so you get to pick and chose which part of GOD'S holy words are true or false... in your opinion, who else should we disregard in the bible... Your arrogance and ignorance are amazing, you are a lier...your god is the father of lies... you spread his lies and do his work... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 08/03/2018 06:21 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76685084 United States 08/02/2018 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is in fact true that one must either accept the totality of God's Word, or dismiss it. And, one more murky possibility is to self-determine what parts are true and untrue. Paul is a distraction from the overall and more important issue. God either delivered His complete and reliable Word, or He did not. Very simple. |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 76250665 United States 08/02/2018 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 ...you are so lost... "If the Gospel be then hid, it is hid to them that are lost." "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds, that is, of the infidels, that the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the image of God, should not shine unto them." Only 12 Apostles, he never even met Christ. Christ was dead and risen long before he claimed to be a Christian. The Truth hurts. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Revelation 2:2 ***Jesus chose 12 originally ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. Difference is they were allchosen by Christ. Unlike Saul "But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.” Sounds chosen to me... freedomsnotfree1 |
The Natural Order
User ID: 76792351 Ireland 08/02/2018 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Natural Order Only 12 Apostles, he never even met Christ. Christ was dead and risen long before he claimed to be a Christian. The Truth hurts. I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Revelation 2:2 ***Jesus chose 12 originally ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. Difference is they were allchosen by Christ. Unlike Saul "But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.” Sounds chosen to me... Can you prove Christ said that? Saul invented Christianity. You all follow his false gospel Respect the Natural Order Patriot at heart Brilliance, not perfection! Patriarchy will not fall! The Great White Lion is rising! Protect the holy bloodline Fortune favors the brave Reinforcement is integral Equality is total nonsense [link to www.generation-identity.org.uk (secure)] |
The Natural Order
User ID: 76792351 Ireland 08/02/2018 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which contradicts Christ in many places Respect the Natural Order Patriot at heart Brilliance, not perfection! Patriarchy will not fall! The Great White Lion is rising! Protect the holy bloodline Fortune favors the brave Reinforcement is integral Equality is total nonsense [link to www.generation-identity.org.uk (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75530075 United States 08/02/2018 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the trap. Then he said shut up and stay trapped forever women, never speak in the building of wood and stone idols.. the Truth is a woman saw through all the deception and was the first to make it known to others. :saturnuseless: For God is not a God of disorder, but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.… |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75530075 United States 08/02/2018 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but in matt 10:27 it says another warning Fear God Alone 26 So do not be afraid of them. For nothing is concealed that will not be uncovered, or hidden that will not be made known. 27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the housetops. 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. shout it out loud not to keep silent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75530075 United States 08/02/2018 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Get out of her my people. vision 7/5/11 was seeing with my eyes even though they were closed on a page of an ancient book ...The Book Of Life...read... "The Bestowed Ones The first ones will be found as one who first stirred the Body, to revive them. These are the those found faithful, who were those who were the first overcomers who saw through the deception within the church, and made it known to others. They are the first hand picked fruits of God, his Fine Seed, belonging to the (Body of Christ.) The first to gather the (dead body puzzle parts.) But if we will know how near the time is, we must not look without us, but in the unsealed Book of Life within us, there you will find the fore-going signs, which are first to be accomplished in your own Heavens and Earth within. " :ARBOL::Saltamar: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Photina
User ID: 4834132 Canada 08/02/2018 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He taught people you need to go to a religion church building to find God. Quoting: K. Grace Veritas Ummm, that's a lie. 1 Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? SAME THING that Messiah taught us. Many years you bore with them and warned them by your Spirit through your prophets. Yet they would not give ear. Therefore you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands. You gave your good Spirit to instruct them and did not withhold your manna from their mouth and gave them water for their thirst. Nevertheless, they were disobedient and rebelled against you and cast your law behind their back and killed your prophets, who had warned them in order to turn them back to you, and they committed great blasphemies. Nehemiah 9:30,20,26, ESV |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 76250665 United States 08/02/2018 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TheLordsServant ***Jesus chose 12 originally ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. Difference is they were allchosen by Christ. Unlike Saul "But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.” Sounds chosen to me... Can you prove Christ said that? Saul invented Christianity. You all follow his false gospel the word of the Lord is all the proof I need... you discredit yourself with every post you make...you are so very deceived freedomsnotfree1 |
TidesofTruth
User ID: 44747932 United States 08/02/2018 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.Lu 4:4 And then to think for a second that God would not keep his promise to preserve it and let a insignificant lump of clay pervert it, when He has shown such great love for mankind and desire that all men be saved . . . Shows just what kind of god you serve. A little miniscule weakling of a god that could not keep a promise. That is not Who God is. He is all powerful and is able to keep both His word and my salvation through every attempt of man to pervert it. Last Edited by TidesofTruth on 08/02/2018 03:04 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76764840 United States 08/02/2018 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think everyone was wandering around like Johnny Rotten after he had meningitis and they had to carefully teach them how to stay alive and look after themselves. That's why there are so very many rules. No one could reason, but they could memorize. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76685084 United States 08/02/2018 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To think that Jesus said Quoting: TidesofTruth And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.Lu 4:4 And then to think for a second that God would not keep his promise to preserve it and let a insignificant lump of clay pervert it, when He has shown such great love for mankind and desire that all men be saved . . . Shows just what kind of god you serve. A little miniscule weakling of a god that could not keep a promise. That is not Who God is. He is all powerful and is able to keep both His word and my salvation through every attempt of man to pervert it. Yes to all of that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75530075 United States 08/02/2018 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Raymantheheretic
User ID: 76806441 United States 08/02/2018 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TheLordsServant ***Jesus chose 12 originally ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. Difference is they were allchosen by Christ. Unlike Saul "But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.” Sounds chosen to me... Can you prove Christ said that? Saul invented Christianity. You all follow his false gospel Chosen as a vessel to proclaim His name alone has no bearing on whether Paul is false or not. Questioning the narrative by demanding proof for who said what in a story we've had in writing for 1600 years is counterproductive at best. The Book contains evidence enough to convict Paul as false without resorting to such feeble tactics. In your hatred for Paul you become like Paul. |
Achduke7
User ID: 15477440 United States 08/02/2018 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the grace of God and the dispensation of grace are two completely different things... not only did Paul bring this to the Gentiles, it was a hidden mystery given only to him, meaning Peter didn't have a clue... he was still going to temple, under the law, sacrifices are still going on... Nothing has changed for Peter and the other 11 other then believing Christ was the son of God... all priesthood Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 When the Holy Spirit tells us that Paul is our apostle, why don't you believe it... Christ COMMANDED the 12 NOT to take his message to the gentile world...why do you think it's to you?? Do you actually believe that Peter who along with Paul and the other apostles had the Holy Spirit did not know about Grace? Paul also was still going to the feasts and the temple. Read Acts. At one point he leaves the synagogue in hopes that he will return after the feast. Christ did command that the 11, not 12 take the word to the Gentiles and the world. This happened after his resurrection. I disagree. Jesus main mission was to Israel, but yet He didn't refuse Gentiles. ...the Centurian ...the Caananite woman "bread crumbs from the table" ...the Samaritans The ONLY time Jesus told the Apostles to NOT go to the Gentiles was when He sent them on their FIRST mission in Matthew 10 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. After that...Jesus told them these times... Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mark 14:9 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. Mark 16:15 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Matthew supposedly went as far as Ethiopia Thomas to India Peter supposedly went to Rome What part do you disagree with? Achduke |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 76807596 United States 08/02/2018 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ***Jesus chose 12 originally Quoting: TheLordsServant ***Judas was lost...leaving 11 ***Paul was CHOSEN by Jesus...making 12 hand-picked by Jesus ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus ***Jesus NEVER said anything about Matthias. ***There's NO RECORD of Matthias OTHER than what the 11 did. Saul / Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the replacement for Judas as the 12th apostle. One each for the 12 tribes. Matthias had been chosen by the 11, not by Jesus Himself. He was an easy conversion in the sense that he already believed in the Father and knew scripture / prophecy. Converting him was also important since he was the most zealous of the haters, doing the most harm to the spreading of the Good News. His zeal would be needed in the effort to make converts in outlying areas as far as Rome, home of future persecution, but ultimately the where Christianity got an early major foothold once Constantine was "converted". It's ironic that Paul was the only one converted after Jesus' resurrection, but yet there are more of his writings in the New Testament than by any of the others. Difference is they were allchosen by Christ. Unlike Saul ***Matthias was NOT chosen by Jesus Saul / Paul wasn't chosen? Jesus to Ananias in Acts... 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
TheLordsServant
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freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 76250665 United States 08/03/2018 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the grace of God and the dispensation of grace are two completely different things... not only did Paul bring this to the Gentiles, it was a hidden mystery given only to him, meaning Peter didn't have a clue... he was still going to temple, under the law, sacrifices are still going on... Nothing has changed for Peter and the other 11 other then believing Christ was the son of God... all priesthood Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 When the Holy Spirit tells us that Paul is our apostle, why don't you believe it... Christ COMMANDED the 12 NOT to take his message to the gentile world...why do you think it's to you?? Do you actually believe that Peter who along with Paul and the other apostles had the Holy Spirit did not know about Grace? Paul also was still going to the feasts and the temple. Read Acts. At one point he leaves the synagogue in hopes that he will return after the feast. Christ did command that the 11, not 12 take the word to the Gentiles and the world. This happened after his resurrection. I disagree. Jesus main mission was to Israel, but yet He didn't refuse Gentiles. ...the Centurian ...the Caananite woman "bread crumbs from the table" ...the Samaritans The ONLY time Jesus told the Apostles to NOT go to the Gentiles was when He sent them on their FIRST mission in Matthew 10 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. After that...Jesus told them these times... Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mark 14:9 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. Mark 16:15 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Matthew supposedly went as far as Ethiopia Thomas to India Peter supposedly went to Rome What part do you disagree with? What book are you guys reading?? Acts 11:19 "Now those who had been scattered by the persecution that broke out when Stephen was killed traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, spreading the word only among Jews. freedomsnotfree1 |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 08/03/2018 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 Do you actually believe that Peter who along with Paul and the other apostles had the Holy Spirit did not know about Grace? Paul also was still going to the feasts and the temple. Read Acts. At one point he leaves the synagogue in hopes that he will return after the feast. Christ did command that the 11, not 12 take the word to the Gentiles and the world. This happened after his resurrection. I disagree. Jesus main mission was to Israel, but yet He didn't refuse Gentiles. ...the Centurian ...the Caananite woman "bread crumbs from the table" ...the Samaritans The ONLY time Jesus told the Apostles to NOT go to the Gentiles was when He sent them on their FIRST mission in Matthew 10 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. After that...Jesus told them these times... Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mark 14:9 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. Mark 16:15 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Matthew supposedly went as far as Ethiopia Thomas to India Peter supposedly went to Rome What part do you disagree with? What book are you guys reading?? Acts 11:19 "Now those who had been scattered by the persecution that broke out when Stephen was killed traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, spreading the word only among Jews. If Peter never preached to a gentile then why did Paul chastised him when he acted like a gentile when he was with the gentiles? The twelve tribes are made up from more tribes then just the Jewish people. The Jewish people are only one tribe of the twelve. There are 13 tribes if you consider the tribe of Joseph was split up into two tribes one for each of his sons. Those tribes were scattered around the world after the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom of Israel. The South Kingdom of Israel was occupied by the Jewish people. Notice the Samarian woman Jesus talked to at the well. John 4:12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? She had Jacob as a father just as Jesus did. She was not Jewish yet she was part of non-believing part of Israel. She was considered a gentile but was descended from Jacob/Israel. James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent them Peter and John, Acts 9:38-40 38 And forasmuch as Lydda was nigh to Joppa, and the disciples had heard that Peter was there, they sent unto him two men, desiring him that he would not delay to come to them. 39 Then Peter arose and went with them. When he was come, they brought him into the upper chamber: and all the widows stood by him weeping, and shewing the coats and garments which Dorcas made, while she was with them. 40 But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 08/03/2018 09:32 AM Achduke |