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Pre-Tribulation Church Rapture 101

 
Judethz  (OP)

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The premise of this corrupt nonBiblical topic on the harpazo is that somehow judethz is qualified to be a teacher on this subject.

No teacher of the Bible would even begin to do exegesis without the tools I mentioned. To deny that a dictionary, maps, commentary, and Greek and Hebrew references are needed conclusively PROVES judethz is a fraud.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


german3 Why do you have this need to jump in between an individuals relationship with the Lord

with made up difficulties? You sound like some sort of Catholic priest who's angry with me for "trespassing on your turf."
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How much of lies is enough and when?
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:german3: Sad to say there are many people in the world today who think like you.

2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.

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what does that have to do with rapture
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How much of lies is enough and when?
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:german3: Sad to say there are many people in the world today who think like you.

2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.

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what does that have to do with rapture
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Nothing, that's what she posts every time someone disagrees with your bullshit. You'll find that she only knows like 10 to 20 passages from the whole bible.
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Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Do you pray so?

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The premise of this corrupt nonBiblical topic on the harpazo is that somehow judethz is qualified to be a teacher on this subject.

No teacher of the Bible would even begin to do exegesis without the tools I mentioned. To deny that a dictionary, maps, commentary, and Greek and Hebrew references are needed conclusively PROVES judethz is a fraud.
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"Qualified to be a teacher"?

Who says YOU are? Some seminary? 1rof1
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Apologies that we aren't all proficient at copy and pasting the same shit like you. You are truly the only true Christian on the planet ...
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All you can do is to attack the messenger who presents scripture?

I'm no better than anyone else...but the Holy Spirit points out or reminds me of scripture on various topics.

Then I post it.

Then you come and flap the lips on the side of your neck - just wiggin on folks without saying anything about scripture etc...

1doh1 dcomp bricks door yak gaah
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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The premise of this corrupt nonBiblical topic on the harpazo is that somehow judethz is qualified to be a teacher on this subject.

No teacher of the Bible would even begin to do exegesis without the tools I mentioned. To deny that a dictionary, maps, commentary, and Greek and Hebrew references are needed conclusively PROVES judethz is a fraud.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


"Qualified to be a teacher"?

Who says YOU are? Some seminary? 1rof1
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Apologies that we aren't all proficient at copy and pasting the same shit like you. You are truly the only true Christian on the planet ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21403408


All you can do is to attack the messenger who presents scripture?

I'm no better than anyone else...but the Holy Spirit points out or reminds me of scripture on various topics.

Then I post it.

Then you come and flap the lips on the side of your neck - just wiggin on folks without saying anything about scripture etc...

1doh1 dcomp bricks door yak gaah
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Nah, you just copy and paste the same spiel 90% of the time, not really adding anything to the conversation. We get it, you are one of the few Christians that don't think Jesus was God. Still doesn't explain how a man can die for your sins when the bible that your Jesus preached speaks against that very thing.
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Nah, you just copy and paste the same spiel 90% of the time, not really adding anything to the conversation. We get it, you are one of the few Christians that don't think Jesus was God. Still doesn't explain how a man can die for your sins when the bible that your Jesus preached speaks against that very thing.
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Jesus was far more than just a "man".

Is there something about "the Son OF God" that you don't understand?

Where does Jesus say that "I am God"?

He doesn't. How many times did He say "Father"? Apparently not enough times for it to sink into your thick noggin.

Jesus has enormous power and authority - that was GIVEN to Him by the Father.

EVERYTHING that Jesus is and has CAME from the Father.

He tells us such.

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2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.
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what does that have to do with rapture
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german7 For you probably nothing.
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I wish everyone would get off Germanies back for Gods sake.
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I have made it crystal clear I believe in the harpazo in the order stated in Matthew 24 and Luke 21. The harpazo comes after the tribulation but before YHWH's Wrath is poured out.
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:watergirls: Your talking trash. The Tribulation and the Lord's Wrath are the same thing.
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Prove it then.
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Judethz  (OP)

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bridec Here is a very good video

by Watchman on the Wall 88 that clearly explains many of the questions that you might have about the Rapture which will shortly take an unsuspecting world by surprise. You really do not want to be here when nuclear war and a whole host of other horrors kill millions of people suddenly. Get right with the Lord now, while you have still been blessed with a little time. He will be quick to hear you. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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dramapopcorn
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endofdayskitty Mock now - Pay later.

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dramapopcorn
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:endofdays:kitty Mock now - Pay later.
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several weeks ago, you said you supported the potus. your current thoughts? lol

Thread: Trump: 'I am the chosen one'
Judethz  (OP)

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several weeks ago, you said you supported the potus. your current thoughts? lol
Thread: Trump: 'I am the chosen one'
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kitty I have not posted in the thread that you linked to.
Judethz  (OP)

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Is it so hard for you morons to use the correct Greek term? It's harpazo not rapture.
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blinkerrose We aren't Greeks.
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Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3
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We aren't Greeks.


no but the NT testament was written in greek and some words do not translate properly to English so you have to look them up in the original language to get correct translation. the old testament was written in ancient Hebrew which even needs more translations. (except for some Aramaic written in book of Daniel while in captivity)

this is why the word "air and clouds" people are confused because of the meaning in English. paul spoke "colloquial" greek (street or slang)

the word air in greek is numa in Hebrew its ruach. it means spirit or as the wind. you cant see it but you can feel it. caught up in the BREATH OF GOD. HIS SPIRIT!

the word cloud is a gathering place. if you cant look it up just read Hebrews 12:1

this is where they get the rapture. I had to study the languages to understand I was taught wrong
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:watergirls Your talking trash. The Tribulation and the Lord's Wrath are the same thing.
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Sorry - I disagree.
Notice all that happens in Luke 21 before Jesus mentions "wrath"


tribulations is gonna be sand playing time compared to the Wrath of the LORD
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blinkerrose Bump for Sunday. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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bump
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This is a dumb argument anyway.

If you believe something that is True, it does not matter if no one ever knew or believed about it previously.

Surely, some things substantiating Scripture in any number of ways are still being discovered and will continue to be discovered and revealed in the End Times, according to Scripture.
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The fact that some people think they will escape the end times is strange.

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But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


Do you pray so?
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In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3

Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21
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Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3
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For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5
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"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Matthew 28:44-51
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For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.

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so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:13
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Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10
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For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


Romans 11:25
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For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalms 27:5
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Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:9,10
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Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10


And after this chapter, for all of the events of The Revelation, the Church is absent.
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bridec Here is a great new video from Melissa

of Midnight Hour Oil Ministries. In it she sets out clearly, logically and truthfully why there will be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. If you are at all interested in the salvation of your soul it would be well worth a little of your time to watch this. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Matthew 13:24-30 (NKJV)
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”

The so-called rapture doctrine is quite ludicrous when you compare it with Christ's parable above. Never once does he mention harvesting the wheat in his barn before pulling up the tares and burning them. Paul, a Pharisee, infiltrated the first true church, simply to distort Christ's words.
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