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COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

 
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Umm yea a mask is ok for a few hours.. But after that.. Your sucking in full carbon which lowers your oxygen levels..

And if your lungs are not well.. Then masks really reducees oxygen..

My wife's pulmonary specialist said no mask for her.. None..

It reduces her oxygen quickly...

For normal people wear a mask less as. You can.
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Face masks don't restrict oxygen or contribute to carbon dioxide buildup: study

Breathe easy. A new study reiterates that surgical face masks don’t cause a buildup of carbon dioxide or restrict oxygen, despite opposing claims.

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The small study included 15 military veterans with severe COPD, each with lung function under 50%, and 15 healthy participants. All participants wore masks for 30 minutes and were told to walk for six minutes while wearing the surgical masks. Researchers then gave each participant a blood test and discovered there were no differences in levels of oxygen or carbon dioxide.

“This data find that gas exchange is not significantly affected by the use of surgical mask, even in subjects with severe lung impairment,” Campos said in the study.
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bsmeter2
Those with lung problem know better. Experience is better than research.
By the time they got around to taking the blood, they might not have seen the difference, but it exists.
And six minutes of exertion is not enough.

Try 30 or 60 min, then test.
No they won't do that, as they know the result and it won't fit their agenda!
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You are an idiot. Please demonstrate how experience is better than research. Really? You must be trolling, because nobody is that stupid.
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Serious coronavirus-related inflammatory condition among children now reported in adults: CDC

A rare but serious coronavirus-related inflammatory condition in children was also recently identified among adults, per a report released Friday from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) usually involves shock, heart malfunction, stomach pain and hyperinflammation. The CDC drew on reports of 27 adult patients to describe a new, similar condition -- multisystem inflammatory syndrome in adults (MIS-A).

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“These 27 patients had cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, dermatologic, and neurologic symptoms without severe respiratory illness and concurrently received positive test results for SARS-CoV-2...,” per the report. Fortunately, the vast majority (24 of 27) of MIS-A patients survived, which was said to mirror outcomes seen in MIS-C patients treated in intensive health care settings.

There is still much unknown over MIS-A, with a deal of uncertainty over the timeline from SARS-CoV-2 infection to MIS-A onset, but the report suggests “MIS-A and MIS-C might represent postinfectious processes.” Adults who reported typical COVID-19 symptoms went on to develop MIS-A about two to five weeks later.

Patients with MIS-A may not test positive for COVID-19, given the onset of the syndrome weeks later. The agency emphasized the importance of antibody testing for previous SARS-CoV-2 infection to recognize and treat MIS-A.
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Frequent neurologic manifestations and encephalopathy‐associated morbidity in Covid‐19 patients


Results

Neurologic manifestations were present at Covid&#8208;19 onset in 215 (42.2%), at hospitalization in 319 (62.7%), and at any time during the disease course in 419 patients (82.3%). The most frequent neurologic manifestations were myalgias (44.8%), headaches (37.7%), encephalopathy (31.8%), dizziness (29.7%), dysgeusia (15.9%), and anosmia (11.4%). Strokes, movement disorders, motor and sensory deficits, ataxia, and seizures were uncommon (0.2 to 1.4% of patients each). Severe respiratory disease requiring mechanical ventilation occurred in 134 patients (26.3%). Independent risk factors for developing any neurologic manifestation were severe Covid&#8208;19 (OR 4.02; 95% CI 2.04–8.89; P < 0.001) and younger age (OR 0.982; 95% CI 0.968–0.996; P = 0.014). Of all patients, 362 (71.1%) had a favorable functional outcome at discharge (modified Rankin Scale 0–2). However, encephalopathy was independently associated with worse functional outcome (OR 0.22; 95% CI 0.11–0.42; P < 0.001) and higher mortality within 30 days of hospitalization (35 [21.7%] vs. 11 [3.2%] patients; P < 0.001).

Interpretation

Neurologic manifestations occur in most hospitalized Covid&#8208;19 patients. Encephalopathy was associated with increased morbidity and mortality, independent of respiratory disease severity.

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Study finds neurological symptoms in most COVID patients


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The study looked at the records of 509 coronavirus patients hospitalized from March 5 to April 6 at 10 hospitals in the Northwestern Medicine health system, in the Chicago area.

About 80% of the patients showed symptoms such as muscle pain, headaches, confusion, dizziness and the loss of smell or taste.

About one-third of patients had encephalopathy or altered mental function and stayed in the hospital about three times longer than patients without. These patients were also nearly seven times as likely to die.

The average age for those in the study with encephalopathy was 65. Patients with the condition also tended to have a history of other disorders, including high blood pressure.

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CDC says coronavirus can spread indoors in updated guidance

The top U.S. public health agency said Monday that the coronavirus can spread more than 6 feet through the air, especially in poorly ventilated and enclosed spaces. But agency officials maintained that such spread is uncommon and current social distancing guidelines still make sense.

However, several experts faulted the updated Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance. They said the virus can spread more easily than the CDC seems to be indicating, and suggested that the public should wear masks even in prolonged outdoor gatherings when they are more than 6 feet apart.




This was released, retracted, and now re-released. Nothing we didn't know.

Stay out of enclosed, crowded spaces. Stay out of poorly ventilated places.
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Wisconsin just ordered a 25% capacity restriction. Any place the pubic goes. Indoors, presumably, but not specifically mentioned.
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Wisconsin just ordered a 25% capacity restriction. Any place the pubic goes. Indoors, presumably, but not specifically mentioned.
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Indoors. A lot of exemptions. Basically bars, stores, restaurants. Private residences are limited to 10 people.

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Survival of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza virus on the human skin: Importance of hand hygiene in COVID-19

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Abstract

Background


The stability of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) on human skin remains unknown, considering the hazards of viral exposure to humans. We generated a model that allows the safe reproduction of clinical studies on the application of pathogens to human skin and elucidated the stability of SARS-CoV-2 on the human skin.

Methods

We evaluated the stability of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza A virus (IAV), mixed with culture medium or upper respiratory mucus, on human skin surfaces and the dermal disinfection effectiveness of 80% (w/w) ethanol against SARS-CoV-2 and IAV.

Results

SARS-CoV-2 and IAV were inactivated more rapidly on skin surfaces than on other surfaces (stainless steel/glass/plastic); the survival time was significantly longer for SARS-CoV-2 than for IAV [9.04 h (95% confidence interval: 7.96–10.2 h) vs. 1.82 h (1.65–2.00 h)]. IAV on other surfaces was inactivated faster in mucus versus medium conditions, while SARS-CoV-2 showed similar stability in the mucus and medium; the survival time was significantly longer for SARS-CoV-2 than for IAV [11.09 h (10.22–12.00 h) vs. 1.69 h (1.57–1.81 h)]. Moreover, both SARS-CoV-2 and IAV in the mucus/medium on human skin were completely inactivated within 15 s by ethanol treatment.

Conclusions

The 9-h survival of SARS-CoV-2 on human skin may increase the risk of contact transmission in comparison with IAV, thus accelerating the pandemic. Proper hand hygiene is important to prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2 infections.
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Survival of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza virus on the human skin: Importance of hand hygiene in COVID-19

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Abstract

Background


The stability of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) on human skin remains unknown, considering the hazards of viral exposure to humans. We generated a model that allows the safe reproduction of clinical studies on the application of pathogens to human skin and elucidated the stability of SARS-CoV-2 on the human skin.

Methods

We evaluated the stability of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza A virus (IAV), mixed with culture medium or upper respiratory mucus, on human skin surfaces and the dermal disinfection effectiveness of 80% (w/w) ethanol against SARS-CoV-2 and IAV.

Results

SARS-CoV-2 and IAV were inactivated more rapidly on skin surfaces than on other surfaces (stainless steel/glass/plastic); the survival time was significantly longer for SARS-CoV-2 than for IAV [9.04 h (95% confidence interval: 7.96–10.2 h) vs. 1.82 h (1.65–2.00 h)]. IAV on other surfaces was inactivated faster in mucus versus medium conditions, while SARS-CoV-2 showed similar stability in the mucus and medium; the survival time was significantly longer for SARS-CoV-2 than for IAV [11.09 h (10.22–12.00 h) vs. 1.69 h (1.57–1.81 h)]. Moreover, both SARS-CoV-2 and IAV in the mucus/medium on human skin were completely inactivated within 15 s by ethanol treatment.

Conclusions

The 9-h survival of SARS-CoV-2 on human skin may increase the risk of contact transmission in comparison with IAV, thus accelerating the pandemic. Proper hand hygiene is important to prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2 infections.
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Wash your hands. Use hand sanitizer. Don't touch your face (or mask.)
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Conclusions: Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections

So what is this saying exactly. Trying to make a decision on getting the flu shot or not
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Hospital staff infected with coronavirus in air released from ventilator

A doctor and two nurses at Sourasky Medical Center may have been infected with the coronavirus by the aerosol coming from a ventilator being used on a patient, according to an initial investigation of the incident, Israel Hayom reported.
Eight ventilators were being used in tandem at the time.
After the investigation, the hospital decided to place a limit of six patients on Vapotherm ventilators in each ward. Vapotherm ventilators are devices that use a nasal cannula with high pressure air flow instead of a mask or invasive tube. The ventilators will also be placed under air vents in order to reduce the amount of aerosol in the air.
The infection in coronavirus wards of medical staff, who are equipped with maximal personal protective equipment (PPE), is considered a rare occurrence. In the first wave, only a few isolated cases of medical staff who were infected with the virus were those working in coronavirus wards, according to Israel Hayom, while most who were infected were infected in other wards, by family members or at social events.
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Conclusions: Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections

So what is this saying exactly. Trying to make a decision on getting the flu shot or not
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"Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus...."


This says, to me, that flu fax is a bad idea for coronavirus. However, this study is from 2019, and probably deals with SARS-1, and MERS, etc.

However, I do remember seeing somewhere that flu vax was a bad idea for SARS-2, and there was virus interference.

Let me look around.
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Conclusions: Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections

So what is this saying exactly. Trying to make a decision on getting the flu shot or not
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"Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus...."


This says, to me, that flu fax is a bad idea for coronavirus. However, this study is from 2019, and probably deals with SARS-1, and MERS, etc.

However, I do remember seeing somewhere that flu vax was a bad idea for SARS-2, and there was virus interference.

Let me look around.
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The only info I could find was a story from March 2020:

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Claim that flu vaccine increases coronavirus infection is unsupported, misinterprets scientific studies




However, there is no science in this article, just opinion and conjecture. It's a pro-vax article that makes no case for it's headline.

Bottom line for me? I will not be taking the flu vax this year.
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While searching for info for granny2, I found this in the Journal of Biomolecular Structure and Dynamics . Interesting.

April 2020

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Natural products may interfere with SARS-CoV-2 attachment to the host cell


The results show high to a moderate binding affinity for the phytoestrogens (Diadiazin, Genistein, Formontein, and Biochanin A), chlorogenic acid, linolenic acid, palmitic acid, caffeic acid, caffeic acid phenethyl ester, hydroxytyrosol, cis-p-Coumaric acid, cinnamaldehyde, thymoquinone, and some physiological hormones such as estrogens, progesterone, testosterone, and cholesterol to the HSPA5 SBD&#946;. Based on its binding affinities, the phytoestrogens and estrogens are the best in binding HSPA5, hence may interfere with SARS-CoV-2 attachment to the stressed cells. These compounds can be successful as anti-COVID-19 agents for people with a high risk of cell stress like elders, cancer patients, and front-line medical staff.



Foods with phytoestrogens:

The list of foods that contain phytoestrogens includes soy beans, tofu, tempeh, soy beverages, linseed (flax), sesame seeds, wheat, berries, oats, barley, dried beans, lentils, rice, alfalfa, mung beans, apples, carrots, wheat germ, ricebran, and soy linseed bread.



Foods with chlorogenic acid:

Chlorogenic acid can be found in foods and herbs such as apples, artichoke, betel, burdock, carrots, coffee beans, eggplants, eucommia, grapes, honeysuckle, kiwi fruit, pears, plums, potatoes, tea, tobacco leaves....


Foods with linolenic acid:

Flaxseeds and flaxseed oil.
Canola (rapeseed) oil.
Soybeans and soybean oil.
Pumpkin seeds and pumpkin seed oil.
Perilla seed oil.
Tofu.
Walnuts and walnut oil.



Foods with palmitic acid:


Palmitic acid is found naturally in palm oil and palm kernel oil, as well as in butter, cheese, milk and meat.




You can google the rest. I have no idea if this publication is legit or a fly-by-night scientific publication. Caveat Lector.
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Coronavirus can survive for a MONTH on surfaces including banknotes, mobile phone screens and stainless steel, researchers find



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The effect of temperature on persistence of SARS&#8209;CoV&#8209;2 on common surfaces

Results: Survival rates of SARS-CoV-2 were determined at different temperatures and D-values, Z-values and half-life were calculated. We obtained half lives of between 1.7 and 2.7 days at 20 °C, reducing to a few hours when temperature was elevated to 40 °C. With initial viral loads broadly equivalent to the highest titres excreted by infectious patients, viable virus was isolated for up to 28 days at 20 °C from common surfaces such as glass, stainless steel and both paper and polymer banknotes. Conversely, infectious virus survived less than 24 h at 40 °C on some surfaces.

Conclusion: These findings demonstrate SARS-CoV-2 can remain infectious for significantly longer time periods than generally considered possible. These results could be used to inform improved risk mitigation procedures to prevent the fomite spread of COVID-19.
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How long does it live on a cloth mask?
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How long does it live on a cloth mask?
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A long time. Wash your hands. Don't touch your face.

Don't go to fucking bars, restaurants, or gyms. Or anywhere indoors, if you can help it.
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Covid patient ‘becomes first in world to die after being reinfected’

A Dutch woman has become the first reported person to die with Covid-19 after being reinfected with the virus.

The 89-year-old patient died in the Netherlands under three weeks after contracting Covid-19 for a second time, said researchers.

At the time of her death she was undergoing chemotherapy for Waldenström’s macroglobulinemia – a rare type of white blood cell cancer – which is treatable but incurable.

Researchers said the woman was rushed to A&E earlier this year while suffering with a fever and a severe cough, before testing positive for coronavirus. She was discharged after five days.

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But just two days after starting treatment, she again developed a fever, cough and shortness of breath. She tested positive for Covid-19 again, with antibody tests recording negative results on days four and six.

On day eight her condition ‘deteriorated’ and she died two weeks later
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Covid-19 deaths will rise almost 80% by February, researchers foresee

As the number of coronavirus cases in the United States approaches 8 million and deaths near 218,000, an influential model foresees 171,000 more Covid-19 deaths by February.

The model, from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington School of Medicine, forecasts there will most likely be about 389,087 deaths -- or 78% more fatalities -- by February 1.
The model's best-case scenario projects 314,000 deaths by then if all Americans use masks. There could be more than 477,000 deaths if mask mandates are eased, it projects.
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My daughter says the covid floor is full with young people 18-35 and they are living but...leaving with neurological problems.
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My daughter says the covid floor is full with young people 18-35 and they are living but...leaving with neurological problems.
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What don't people understand about "You don't want this!"

Such stupidity out there. Ugh.
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20% of verified coronavirus patients did not develop immunity

Only 80% of people who tested positive for coronavirus had antibodies to the virus, according to a report published Monday by the Central Bureau of Statistics, the Health Ministry and the Gertner Institute.
The results mean that a percentage of people who develop asymptomatic or even mild cases of the virus could contract it again.
The report was based on a serological survey conducted between June and August in the haredi (ultra-Orthodox) community of Bnei Brak. The city has had some of the highest rates of infection in the country.
The survey also found that the number of people who tested positive for antibodies increased with the number of sick patients, thought not proportionally.
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Washington state is investigating about 120 suspected cases of reinfection, according to the state’s health department, which confirmed the figure in response to questions from BNO News. All of the cases have at least 90 days between the two episodes but more research is needed to confirm or rule out reinfection. “We are not aware of any deaths,” the department said. It was not immediately known how many of the suspected cases will be subject to genomic sequencing.
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AstraZeneca shares turn negative after Brazilian health authority says volunteer in Covid vaccine study dies

AstraZeneca shares turned negative Wednesday after a Brazilian health authority, Anvisa, said a volunteer in its coronavirus vaccine study died.

The Federal University of Sao Paulo, which is helping coordinate late-stage trials in Brazil, separately said that the volunteer was Brazilian, according to Reuters.
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Hmmm, I haven’t found anything yet as to possible explanations, or whether or not the volunteer had actually received the vaccine or a placebo. You finding anything?
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Hmmm, I haven’t found anything yet as to possible explanations, or whether or not the volunteer had actually received the vaccine or a placebo. You finding anything?
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Just conjecture that this person was in placebo group. 'Experts' are saying that if this person was in the vax group, the study would have been halted immediately for an investigation.
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Hmmm, I haven’t found anything yet as to possible explanations, or whether or not the volunteer had actually received the vaccine or a placebo. You finding anything?
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Just conjecture that this person was in placebo group. 'Experts' are saying that if this person was in the vax group, the study would have been halted immediately for an investigation.
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But there is this:

Thread: AstraZeneca Covid-19 Vaccine Death Being Covered Up - Clinical Trials Continue
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CDC expands definition of ‘close contacts,’ after study suggests Covid-19 can be passed in brief interactions

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday expanded how it defines a “close contact” of someone with Covid-19 as it released new evidence showing the coronavirus can be passed during relatively brief interactions.

Previously, the CDC described a close contact as someone who spent 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious. Now, the agency says it’s someone who spent a cumulative 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious over 24 hours, even if the time isn’t consecutive, according to an agency spokesperson.
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