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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// Vax is "significantly" weaker for Delta (pg. 458)

 
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COVID-19 socially distant party on page 500

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Godni jope so

Comfy lockdowns and stimulus incoming.

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I am confused... I think Canada and the US didn’t have a discussion....

US extends non-essential travel ban to Canada and Mexico through August 21

Less than 50%

Still, DHS found that the outbreak and continued transmission and spread of COVID-19 both in the U.S. and globally posed a risk.

The restrictions go into effect Thursday and remain in effect until Aug. 21, "unless amended or rescinded prior to that time."


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Doesn't mean a thing. It is easy to travel across the border. A friend has verified this as he visits family. He is a US citizen. They are not restricting enough traffic. Pretty much, this applies only to foreigners in the country. lol
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Interesting thread, just leaving the first and last post. The thread contains charts and stuff for him to make his conclusion...



1. Most of us do not really appreciate how resilient children and their immune systems are when they encounter #sarscov2. Most kids don’t even realize they have been exposed, which leads to Upwards arrowUpwards arrowUpwards arrow over-estimation of the long-term effects of #COVID19 in children




7/ So, when trying to estimate risk of severe #COVID19 or #LongCovid, remember that most kids do not even develop any symptoms after virus exposure & some kids may be inherently protected from cellular immunity. Surely these kids can’t be at risk of severe or long covid.

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Which is why we now have an increase in RSV.... during summer. Sars Cov 2 weakened their immune responses.

It ranks right up there with shouting “vaccines will stoop this”


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No, actually, they aren't sure if the increase in RSV is if these are backlog cases that would have occurred over time and are now hitting at once or if there is indeed a statistical increase.

I just found out my daughter had Covid already. Never knew it.
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This is unverified, but something to keep an eye on. Op is a bit dramatic at times, but I've never seen him lie.

Thread: Breaking!!! All nursing homes in Mississippi going back into lockdown. No vistors..Here we go!!!
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Is that a representation of this Winter collapse ?
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I am confused... I think Canada and the US didn’t have a discussion....

US extends non-essential travel ban to Canada and Mexico through August 21

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Doesn't mean a thing. It is easy to travel across the border. A friend has verified this as he visits family. He is a US citizen. They are not restricting enough traffic. Pretty much, this applies only to foreigners in the country. lol
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It doesn't matter. The variants are going to spread no matter what.

I mean shit, they made it to Australia and New Zealand.

Illegal southern border crossings are at the highest level in 20 years... 6,000 or so per day which is 4 times what was seen at this time last year.

Who cares about some tested, vaccinated, and polite Canadians???
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Is that a representation of this Winter collapse ?
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....whatever it means, looks like quite the mess to clean up!!!

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Is that a representation of this Winter collapse ?
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We're already about 4 minutes in.
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I am confused... I think Canada and the US didn’t have a discussion....

US extends non-essential travel ban to Canada and Mexico through August 21

[link to www.kcci.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Doesn't mean a thing. It is easy to travel across the border. A friend has verified this as he visits family. He is a US citizen. They are not restricting enough traffic. Pretty much, this applies only to foreigners in the country. lol
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It doesn't matter. The variants are going to spread no matter what.

I mean shit, they made it to Australia and New Zealand.

Illegal southern border crossings are at the highest level in 20 years... 6,000 or so per day which is 4 times what was seen at this time last year.

Who cares about some tested, vaccinated, and polite Canadians???
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Didn't say they wouldn't spread. Just that this isn't some "Omigod! The border is still closed!" it really isn't. Except I think it is actually a bit harder to get into Canada from what I have read.
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So it looks like the schedule is Delta for summer and Lambda for Winter, barring any worse variant that takes off in the meantime...

COVID CHAOS ‘Vaccine-dodging’ Lambda Covid variant that’s hit UK and US is TWICE as infectious as Wuhan strain, study claims

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Wait a minute... the D14G "Europe" strain was twice as contagious as the Wuhan strain, then the UK strain was twice as contagious as the Europe strain, then Delta was twice as contagious as UK strain.

So, that would put Lambda at half as contagious as Delta then amarite???

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Perhaps this thought will help:

If lambda is less infectious, it SHOULD die out, right?
But WAIT...
Lambda can infect and transmt better than Delta in vacinated.

So, as we have been discussing, we have created an artificial selection pressure which COULKD allow something like Lambda to thrive, when it would have died out.

If Lambda turns out to be more lethal than Delta, we will have worked evolution against our own interests...
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Perhaps this thought will help:

If lambda is less infectious, it SHOULD die out, right?
But WAIT...
Lambda can infect and transmt better than Delta in vacinated.

So, as we have been discussing, we have created an artificial selection pressure which COULKD allow something like Lambda to thrive, when it would have died out.

If Lambda turns out to be more lethal than Delta, we will have worked evolution against our own interests...
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Did you even read the article? They study says Lambda gets around the China bathtub vaccines, but Pfizer and Moderna kick it's ass.

We just straight up don't have any data yet on what Lambda is going to do in first world countries.

Remember when the SA variant and P.1 that had immune escape properties were the latest and greatest scariants that were gonna kill us all, and it turned out they were nothingburgers outside of the third world?
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1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

I am prepared for the end of days. I hope you are, too.
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Now I think you all know my position on the vaccines, but the below sounds like complete pro-vaccine propaganda. There was a similar case of a nurse making a claims that nothingburgers were yelling out in disbelief as they were being intubated that COVID was fake which ended up being debunked.


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"'One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.'" /2
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This is almost word for word the same shit another nurse got busted for making up last year.

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"'They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was "just the flu." But they were wrong.'" /4

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Perhaps this thought will help:

If lambda is less infectious, it SHOULD die out, right?
But WAIT...
Lambda can infect and transmt better than Delta in vacinated.

So, as we have been discussing, we have created an artificial selection pressure which COULKD allow something like Lambda to thrive, when it would have died out.

If Lambda turns out to be more lethal than Delta, we will have worked evolution against our own interests...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79414553


Did you even read the article? They study says Lambda gets around the China bathtub vaccines, but Pfizer and Moderna kick it's ass.

We just straight up don't have any data yet on what Lambda is going to do in first world countries.

Remember when the SA variant and P.1 that had immune escape properties were the latest and greatest scariants that were gonna kill us all, and it turned out they were nothingburgers outside of the third world?
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Yeah that part scathed under rug and one of thousands
“Glp prediction did not happen” or “Glp did not know”

In before deleted and chastised by Anonymous One

lmao
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Nice try. But that is not how it went down.

It was called paying attention. And how many times do I have to thump you and say

IT IS ENDEMIC. It is already over.
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11/24/2020

CNN is silent after South Dakota emergency room nurse Jodi Doering claimed on the liberal network that patients dying from coronavirus often don’t believe it despite her story appearing to have been a “massive exaggeration” if not worse.

Last week, journalist David Zweig penned a column “Are COVID Patients Gasping ‘It Isn’t Real’ As They Die?” for the tech publication Wired, declaring, “An ER nurse’s anecdote of deranged denialism went viral. But when the media caught wind of the story, reporters didn’t do their jobs.”


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I’m sure there are a few quotes from the 10s of thousand vaccine deaths we could find!

But MSM spin those and say things like “even though bobs healthy 49year old healthy daughter died after the vaccine he still thinks vaccination is the way forward to help everyone”

That’s a summary of a true article !

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total excess deaths of all countries listed on the chart-

4.3+ million
plus 24,000 zombies so 4.5 million excess deaths admitted to. we know CHINA has way more than reported.

actually i did not see CHINA added to the chart. the way i read this chart, these are beyond the covid deaths. so we have 4 million covid reported plus 4.5 excess deaths.

puts the deaths at roughly 60 million counting the CHNA projections from spring.

as long as the zombies don't swim we b ok. if u live in FL, they is in Cuba. i'd move.
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I did not find India either, which has to be a huge number also.
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4 million. i did inlude it in my total
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India's Pandemic Death Toll Estimated At About 4 Million: 10 Times The Official Count

Drawing death data from civil registries and other sources, the report came up with three estimates for undercounts. The conclusion is that between 3.4 and 4.7 million more people died in that pandemic period than would have been predicted. That's up to 10 times higher than the Indian government's official death toll of 414,482.

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at 10 X the John Hopkins total. gives us 40 mill. add CHINA's projected from cell data from spring 2020 takes us near 75 mill. knowing Africa and others can not keep up,including the bodies we saw from Ecuador, and other reported excess deaths, we are nearing 100 million deaths.

how many more did we lose from the vaccines worldwide? roughly at 125 million total.
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I’m sure there are a few quotes from the 10s of thousand vaccine deaths we could find!

But MSM spin those and say things like “even though bobs healthy 49year old healthy daughter died after the vaccine he still thinks vaccination is the way forward to help everyone”

That’s a summary of a true article !
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I found the linky

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And he even went and got his second dose - you couldn’t make this shit up if you tried - ffs

“ My sincere thanks also go to the consultant and bereavement counsellor who tended to my own needs by sorting out my second Covid -19 vaccination which was due, along with my own GP and practice manageress who put it into place at very short notice.”

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I’m sure there are a few quotes from the 10s of thousand vaccine deaths we could find!

But MSM spin those and say things like “even though bobs healthy 49year old healthy daughter died after the vaccine he still thinks vaccination is the way forward to help everyone”

That’s a summary of a true article !
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


About 190 million Americans have been vaccinated since December 2020.

Out of that many people, in a 7 month period, there should be about a million deaths.
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I’m sure there are a few quotes from the 10s of thousand vaccine deaths we could find!

But MSM spin those and say things like “even though bobs healthy 49year old healthy daughter died after the vaccine he still thinks vaccination is the way forward to help everyone”

That’s a summary of a true article !
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About 190 million Americans have been vaccinated since December 2020.

Out of that many people, in a 7 month period, there should be about a million deaths.
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You missed a major connection. Actually several.

But eh. Whatever helps you keep going....
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I’m sure there are a few quotes from the 10s of thousand vaccine deaths we could find!

But MSM spin those and say things like “even though bobs healthy 49year old healthy daughter died after the vaccine he still thinks vaccination is the way forward to help everyone”

That’s a summary of a true article !
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


About 190 million Americans have been vaccinated since December 2020.

Out of that many people, in a 7 month period, there should be about a million deaths.
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Why a million?
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More from the “no shit, who could have possibly seen this coming” corner.... followed by let’s give them a shot too. SMH

Child cases of COVID-19 rising with school year around the corner

Less than 50%

No COVID-19 vaccine has yet been given the green light for Americans younger than 12. And while pharmaceutical companies Pfizer and Moderna are conducting clinical trials, it will likely be months until younger children are able to get a shot.

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local news reported that the # of kids infected in 2 weeks of july is DOUBLE what has been reported. i can not find a link thou i did look for 1.
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So another fun fact about Lambda... it was first detected in Peru in December 2020, and it hit 80% of cases in April.

Oddly, new cases in Peru peaked April 10th and have been declining ever since.

And Peru is in the Southern Hemisphere entirely... they were entering fall in April.

The 7 day average of deaths there is at the lowest point since April 2020, and new cases will hit that point at the current trajectory in another week or two.

hmm

There's no bones about it, Delta is a nasty bug... but I think Lambda is a nothingburger.

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More from the “no shit, who could have possibly seen this coming” corner.... followed by let’s give them a shot too. SMH

Child cases of COVID-19 rising with school year around the corner

Less than 50%

No COVID-19 vaccine has yet been given the green light for Americans younger than 12. And while pharmaceutical companies Pfizer and Moderna are conducting clinical trials, it will likely be months until younger children are able to get a shot.

[link to www.kcci.com (secure)]
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local news reported that the # of kids infected in 2 weeks of july is DOUBLE what has been reported. i can not find a link thou i did look for 1.
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Infected / cases. Are they seriously ill and dying that’s the question??
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So another fun fact about Lambda... it was first detected in Peru in December 2020, and it hit 80% of cases in April.

Oddly, new cases in Peru peaked April 10th and have been declining ever since.

And Peru is in the Southern Hemisphere entirely... they were entering fall in April.

The 7 day average of deaths there is at the lowest point since April 2020, and new cases will hit that point at the current trajectory in another week or two.

hmm
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So lambda hasn’t taken over from delta in South America ?
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More from the “no shit, who could have possibly seen this coming” corner.... followed by let’s give them a shot too. SMH

Child cases of COVID-19 rising with school year around the corner

Less than 50%

No COVID-19 vaccine has yet been given the green light for Americans younger than 12. And while pharmaceutical companies Pfizer and Moderna are conducting clinical trials, it will likely be months until younger children are able to get a shot.

[link to www.kcci.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


local news reported that the # of kids infected in 2 weeks of july is DOUBLE what has been reported. i can not find a link thou i did look for 1.
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Infected / cases. Are they seriously ill and dying that’s the question??
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They may not be but I'm sure they pass it onto more vulnerable family members who are

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