excited to share info re: dyatlov pass incident

Avalanche

gasoline @ -40° f

Ask Source? Have a peek... and this guy is one of a handful that are real at the moment...modern day Edgar Cayce's description of it:
[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Enjoy

Not military, the Geiger counter was the lead investigor. Police.

I can't believe I just watched that.

I want to read all of this, but I have a question.
If the victims thought that the fire source came
from above, and hit the tree-line, why would they
climb yet another tree?

I've decided it has to be easier to learn Russian than to read Google's translation of it.

The diagram of the tent and it's explanation almost killed me.

Don't go anywhere near the Russian articles unless you've read the Portuguese. The Portuguese is "See Spot run" compared to the Russian which is actually a test to see if you're psychic.

The burning might be further recon like the tent. After the deaths.

No one says that the victims thought there was a fire source, coming from above or anywhere else. That thought comes from writers or investigators who believe that something supernatural was the culprit.

And it remains to be seen why two of the skiers climbed the tree in the first place. The Portuguese article author speculates that it was to get a better view of any approaching danger. However in the book I'm reading now, I haven't found out what the author concludes. FYI- The book is based on the forensics of the case. Which if you read the Portuguese article, you'll find are really, really strange.

TY, This literally sent chills down my neck, and haven't
even examined the case yet.

As the OP, I would really like to make it clear that the reason I made the thread was to get your interest and hopefully get people to volunteer as many sources as possible to essentially "share with the class". I can't tell you how happy I am with the majority of you serious contributers in the thread!! Thank You For Taking An INTEREST and using Your awesome minds/unique points of view on the topic! I really want this to continue. Let's beat the crumby record of 4 pages this topic has on glp.

[link to alex-02-02-1959.livejournal.com]

Just making sure u have further reading from source! Team effort right everyone?

I think GLP has the brain power to come up with a mutually agreed upon solution to this mystery.

lighting farts in the tent explains everything.

Anyone know what the students were studying at the university?

Yes, mit type suff. Radio science, engineering, two were on closed labs studying things exposed them to very low amounts of radiation. Just look at their bios.. Understand these were very bright, scientifically-minded, rational individuals.

they are hiking when first avanche buries 4 . remaining 5 set up tent nearby, as it is getting dark.


more avalaches panic and disorientate the rest that night, who flee the tent and die of exposure not long after.


lots is lost in translation and speculation but the findings are correct. exposure and avanches are 'compelling forces of nature'

I tried. I was told "Still Bleifuss?" Nothing more, though; I mean shut out, nothing more. "Bleifuss" means essentially "lead foot" in German. Thoughts?

here is a link to a movie about it in the movie its some crazy Russian military tests

its called Devils Pass
[link to www.imdb.com]

How do you cut a window through a ceder tree , if it's big enough to conceal you it would be a major job to cut through it

So how did Dubinina's tongue and the inside of her mouth get ripped out?

The incline was only 15 degrees, not much of a slant. However your point is a good one, why not put the tent down by the trees where the forest could act as a wind barrier and it was flatter.

There's also the possibility that the entire scene was moved after the incident to cover up what really happened.

Wild animal predation.

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If you're interested in this story, here's a site that has a straightforward, comprehensive account of it and it's in ENGLISH!

[link to thecloakedhedgehog.wordpress.com (secure)]

Extra added bonus-it contains information not included in other accounts. Actually each account has one or two "facts" that aren't in any of the others.

from comments in link :

Adam

November 15, 2014 at 11:45 pm


also i think it is quite interesting that more than half of the group had birthdays close to the date of this event and Semyon (Alexander) Zolotariov’s birthday was on the event itself.

Look, Avalanche was dicredited immediately for the following reasons:

1. Obvious lack of disturbance of snow on mountain and at the tent.

2. Incline of mountain not steep enough for avalanche

3. Avalanches occur in daytime when sun can melt snow and cause it

4. Along with sun, it's the wrong side of the mountain based on sun to be an avalanche

5. We know from tracks everyone was able to walk away from the tent without being carried, there for none of the major injuries occurred at the tent.

This is the only time I will address the avalanche theory which the investigation even at the time had to rule out. Do the research. No more silly avalanche theories on my thread. I've said this twice already even in my first post.

There most definitely is a human element involved.

Absolutely, without a doubt, agreed!!

This case has always fascinated me as well.

I have been reading some articles and found this one:

[link to mysteriousuniverse.org]

There is a comment to this article that has me intrigued, comment by CM 8 days ago...

snip

As a former Military police officer, I have familiarity with crime scenes. I strongly believe this scene was tampered with and or partially staged. Much of the "evidence" presented in this case are pieces and parts of the story that do not add up to a whole sequence of events.
It is conceivable to me that the 4 bodies in the ravine, (two of which displayed crushed chest cavities with broken ribs and one, a severe cranial fracture, but none of which had evidence of contusions to the soft tissue) were dumped there and left to die after the inital attack to delay detection as long a possible. Absence of Dubinina's tongue and, in some accounts I have read, her eyes were plucked out presents to me as "see no evil speak no evil" symbology. The "silent scream" of Dubinina's contorted face and the blood in her stomach suggests her tongue was taken before she died. If this was done postmortem, the scavenging animal would have found it very difficult to pry a frozen tongue out of the corpses mouth with a clean break. The tongue was taken out "by the root". This clean of an extraction could only have been done while she was still alive and the tissue was soft.

There is much more to his comment and it is quite interesting.

As horrific as it sounds, it appears the commenter is correct. Of course the question is who did it and why her?

I just finished the part in the Russian book I'm reading where the author debunked every theory ever formulated on the subject. It's just unbelievable the number of theories and the amount of writing that has been done, i.e. hundreds of articles and numerous books.

I'm now at the part where she offers us her explanation based on a careful exam of the forensics including never before calculated measurements and evidence that never made it into the official
report. She's also discounting embellishments that have been added over the years which other authors took at face value.

It took only one paragraph of her conclusions to put the fear of god in me. I'm almost afraid to keep reading. In fact, I'm taking a break for a few days just to get my head screwed back on straight and to catch up on my sleep.

It's no wonder the truth has never been revealed before, most people
wouldn't be able to handle it.