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Coronavirus traces found in recovered patients as China cases rise again

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In a grim assessment, a key Chinese respiratory disease expert described the situation of the epidemic as a “see-saw battle”, despite the drop in daily recorded cases in recent days.

“We should not be relaxed. The figure may go up again,” said Zhao Jianping, head of an expert team working to contain the outbreak in Hubei.

Zhao told the magazine Southern People Weekly there were cases in China in which recovered patients continued to show traces of the virus through nucleic acid tests. There were similar results in Canada, where nose and throat swabs taken from a couple who had recovered from Covid-19 revealed they still had traces of the virus.
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just sitting here pondering
seems NA not hit like Asia unless we are being lied to. Seems hit and miss in Europe and Africa, unless we aren't getting numbers...but Asia is getting hammered, no?

Kind of shocks me about NK and Iran unless many peeps were crossing border but who in the heck wants to go to NK from China or into Iran?

I'm not into the whole bio weapon thing but who the freak knows???
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patience. It took a several weeks for things to take off in China. Now we are seeing things appearing to take off in S Korea, HK, and Japan.

I can see no way the virus isn't starting to really circulate in the US, we are just a few weeks behind Asia.

We are being lulled by the calm before the storm.
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Yes, this is NOT a zombie movie where the infected show symptoms in a matter of seconds.
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Yes, it would be so much better if it were! Those negative results from Africa aren't at all encouraging.
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Exclusive: 11 Coronavirus deaths in Iran

Based on the reports that Iran International has received, so far, eight coronavirus patients have died in Qom city’s Kamkar-Arabnia hospital with two hospital personnel in intensive care, and one woman passed away from coronavirus in Qom’s Imam Reza hospital.

According to these reports, Qom’s Beheshti hospital with 2100 personnel has distributed 200 L95 masks among them.

The sources told Iran International that several cases of coronavirus have been spotted in Mashhad city and two patients have died of the virus in the northern provinces of Iran. Iranian officials have not commented on these cases.

The chief of medicine in Kamkar-Arabnia hospital in Qom has announced that until further notice, only viral infection specialists are allowed in the hospital’s clinic.

Previously, the spokesperson for the Ministry of Health had confirmed two deaths in Qom city.

In Babol city, two patients suspected of coronavirus have been quarantined.
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"Remain in Your Homes, and Die in Place"
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For weeks we've seen people fall down and either get hospitalized or die on the street in Wuhan, even in Hong Kong. They weren't driving or operating heavy machinery.

Just wondering how this will play out when they go back to work. Will drivers need a second? Not being symptomatic doesn't seem to be any use in determining whether this will hit the heart. Perhaps we should think this through before accidents start making a difference.

My suggestion would be to use the 15 minute blood test that is out there (read about it a couple days ago), like we test for diabetes now. Every morning. No virus, probably OK to work. It will take a little planning and preparation, and likely some spectacular problems arising before it becomes the new norm.

Just thinking here....
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Thank you Nawty for your diligence in relaying information. I learned to trust your posts during Ebola.

There are 2 places I check daily for CoVid 19 info,
Your thread and DR. JOHN CAMPBELL’S YouTube videos

I can not recommend him more highly to anyone interested in reliable education from a knowledgeable medical professional about this developing pandemic. He is hosting a live Q&A on Saturday.

I have no idea how to embed or link to his YouTube as I am an old nursing dinosaur. I can’t even figure out how to copy the damned link. Grrrrr.

You have my promise to volunteer care to spare younger nurses with families. I have no need to self sacrifice, but it is my sincere belief that it is the correct decision for me (and others).

I am wondering if any other older/retired nurses (or other medical folk) feel they will sign up to provide care in order to spare the young?

My employer has solicited voluntary participation in direct care as part of their disaster/pandemic planning. This is not an unusual practice in emergencies.
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Thank you Nawty for your diligence in relaying information. I learned to trust your posts during Ebola.

There are 2 places I check daily for CoVid 19 info,
Your thread and DR. JOHN CAMPBELL’S YouTube videos

I can not recommend him more highly to anyone interested in reliable education from a knowledgeable medical professional about this developing pandemic. He is hosting a live Q&A on Saturday.

I have no idea how to embed or link to his YouTube as I am an old nursing dinosaur. I can’t even figure out how to copy the damned link. Grrrrr.

You have my promise to volunteer care to spare younger nurses with families. I have no need to self sacrifice, but it is my sincere belief that it is the correct decision for me (and others).

I am wondering if any other older/retired nurses (or other medical folk) feel they will sign up to provide care in order to spare the young?

My employer has solicited voluntary participation in direct care as part of their disaster/pandemic planning. This is not an unusual practice in emergencies.
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You be careful out there, Carol. You're an Angel! Wear the PPE. Strictly follow the procedures, especially donning and doffing. Be patient and thorough in the decon'. Keep focused and do not allow a needle stick. Never allow complacency. And you'll be OK. We'll pray for you. Be smart, calm, and listen to that little voice inside if it tells you to step back. Your courage and sacrifice is inspiring. That's the stuff that will help us come out the other side of this.
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Yonhap: 98 out of 156 cases in South Korea are associated with the church in Daegu


a super-muthafackin-spreader with bells on top
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from other thread...this is disturbing info
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Oh no, Canada’s latest case (woman in her 30’s), recently travelled from IRAN...

6th presumptive case of the COVID-19 virus found in B.C.

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I don't think there's any stopping it now.
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Agreed, Nawty.

Once this gets into the nursing homes ... lookout. US deaths are going to SKYROCKET.
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That and homeless populations. They will be using backhoes, firehoses, and dump trucks for removal by the end of March.
I'm not from Canada, not that there's anything wrong with that.....
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Oh no, Canada’s latest case (woman in her 30’s), recently travelled from IRAN...

6th presumptive case of the COVID-19 virus found in B.C.

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I don't think there's any stopping it now.
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Agreed, Nawty.

Once this gets into the nursing homes ... lookout. US deaths are going to SKYROCKET.
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That and homeless populations. They will be using backhoes, firehoses, and dump trucks for removal by the end of March.
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uh ... wouldn't using firehoses be contraindicated, considering that the virus spreads via ... droplets?
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Iran on Friday reported two more deaths among 13 new cases of coronavirus in the Islamic republic, bringing the total number of deaths to four and infections to 18.

The COVID-19 outbreak first appeared in Iran on Wednesday, when officials said it killed two elderly people in the Shiite holy city of Qom.
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the spread of coronavirus started in Qom and... has now reached several cities in the country, including Teheran, Babol, Arak, Isfahan, Rasht and other cities," health ministry official Minou Mohrez said

"It's possible that it exists in all cities in Iran," she said...
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MoH statement -

Minister of Health: Corona virus in Iran kills 4 people

Tehran - IRNA - Adviser to the Minister of Health and Medical Education said that the corona virus has so far had four definitive cases in Iran, four of which have been killed.

Alireza Vahabzadeh wrote on Twitter on Friday: "The results of testing four suspected patients in Tehran were positive. Seven new cases have been confirmed in Qom and two in Rasht. Two new patients have died.

"In total, so far, there have been three cases of definitive coronary heart disease, four of which have died," he said. A number of suspects are also hospitalized and under surveillance.
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Of the 9 new cases identified, 2 are in Qom, 2 in Tehran and two in Guilan.

The death of two other patients with coronary disease The
head of the coronation center 's information committee at the Ministry of Health said: Two of the newly identified cases have unfortunately also died. There are also two suspected cases of Kovid 2 in Babylon, which apparently had a history of returning from Qom, but the results of tests carried out by these people have not yet been reported.
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h/t sharon sanders

Lebanon confirmed its first case on Friday. It is monitoring two other potential cases after a 45-year-old woman arriving from Iran on Thursday tested positive
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According to the latest laboratory reports, 2 other people, including 4 people, are infected #قم , 1 person at #تهران , 1 person at #گیلان Confirmed. Unfortunately, 5 people have died. Most cases are still from Qom residents or have had a history of returning from Qom in recent days and weeks.
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Obviously Iran is an information nightmare. They had to have been hiding cases to get to a point where it appears to have spread so far, and people are dying.

Information does appear to be starting to come out, and the Iranian MoH is releasing some information. Mathematically, their numbers don't make much sense, but it's a start.

The big question: How long before the Iranian religious leaders start blaming Israel and the Big Satan for this plague? And what will they do about it?

To paraphrase something a wise man once said "desperate times call for desperate measures".

(The expression ‘desperate times call for desperate measures’ is believed to have originated with a saying coined by the ancient Greek physician, Hippocrates.)
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South Korea-big trouble in little china

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South Korea coronavirus cases jump over 200 as sect infections spike

South Korea's coronavirus cases nearly doubled Friday, rising above 200 and making it the worst-affected country outside China as the number of infections linked to a religious sect spiked.

A total of 100 new cases were confirmed by the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), 85 of them connected to the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in the southern city of Daegu.

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... a 61-year-old woman who developed a fever on February 10 but attended at least four church services before being diagnosed.

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The mayor of Daegu -- South Korea's fourth-biggest city, with a population of over 2.5 million -- has advised locals to stay indoors, while access to a major US military base in the area has been restricted.

People were out and about on the streets Friday, with most wearing masks, but many businesses were closed due to the outbreak.


Workers on motorcycles sprayed disinfectant outside the Shincheonji church....

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...one more virus case had been confirmed at a hospital in Cheongdo county near Daegu where a total of 16 infections have now been identified, including a long-stay patient who died Wednesday after showing symptoms of pneumonia.
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Second South Korea death:

A woman in her mid-50s
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CDC telcon at 1115 cst

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R THEY RUNNING ON A 28K MODEM?
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Obviously Iran is an information nightmare. They had to have been hiding cases to get to a point where it appears to have spread so far, and people are dying.

Information does appear to be starting to come out, and the Iranian MoH is releasing some information. Mathematically, their numbers don't make much sense, but it's a start.

The big question: How long before the Iranian religious leaders start blaming Israel and the Big Satan for this plague? And what will they do about it?

To paraphrase something a wise man once said "desperate times call for desperate measures".

(The expression ‘desperate times call for desperate measures’ is believed to have originated with a saying coined by the ancient Greek physician, Hippocrates.)
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Aphorisms: "For extreme diseases, extreme methods of cure, as to restriction, are most suitable."
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h/t shiloh

Hubei changed Feb 19ths numbers:

This wrong practice was discovered and stopped in time on February 20. The number of cases reduced on February 19 is now added back to confirmed cases, and the number of new cases on that day is revised. At 04:00 on February 19, the number of newly confirmed cases in the province was revised from 349 to 775, and the cumulative number of confirmed cases was revised from 62,013 to 62,457. At the same time, the province's cumulative number of confirmed cases as of 24:00 on February 20 was revised from 62,662 to 63,088.


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R THEY RUNNING ON A 28K MODEM?
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Not them, I am. GEnie platform. If that doesn't work, I'll use my AOL.

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No, my loud friend, it's a telcon....telephone conference. One must dial in on a telephone.
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Iran...I ran so far away

the spread of coronavirus started in Qom and with attention to people’s travels has now reached several cities in the country including Tehran, Babol, Arak, Isfahan, Rasht and other cities
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Japan

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. As of the national situation
, as of 12:00 on February 21, 79 patients and 14 asymptomatic pathogen carriers have been identified.
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, patients 79 cases (domestic cases 69 cases , charter flights returnees Case10 cases )
-14 cases of asymptomatic pathogen carriers (10 cases in Japan, 4 cases returning from charter flights), of
which 67 are Japanese nationals and 10 are under investigation .
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Public hospitals daily update on COVID-19 cases
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The following is issued on behalf of the Hospital Authority:

As at noon today (February 21), public hospitals had reported to the Department of Health the admission of 24 patients (15 male and nine female, aged 16 to 86) in the past 24 hours who met the reporting criteria of COVID-19. Appropriate tests have been arranged for the patients.

There are 94 patients under isolation currently. So far, six patients with the COVID-19 infection have been discharged upon recovery.

The Hospital Authority will maintain close contact with the Centre for Health Protection to monitor the latest developments and to inform the public and healthcare workers on the latest information in a timely manner.

Ends/Friday, February 21, 2020
Issued at HKT 18:11
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