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Indiana has it. Role down into age and race.
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It's like we are in a time machine. It's now Feb 2020. Very, very few of us see what's coming up, even though we've lived through it once already.

Short attention spans and hubris are going to be our downfall.
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It's like we are in a time machine. It's now Feb 2020. Very, very few of us see what's coming up, even though we've lived through it once already.

Short attention spans and hubris are going to be our downfall.
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Indeed surrealistic to see that a so high amount of people is so clueless about the dynamics of a pandemic, and capable of thinking its over when the only reason that it has not killed more people is because of the measures taken, which were effective to avoid a massive number of deaths.
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Texas shows rising daily Covid cases and rising positivity rate -- a concerning pattern. They report total daily hospital census but do not appear to separately report total daily new hospitalizations, however selected medical centers do, including Texas Medical Center in Houston

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The number of people hospitalized for COVID-19 in North Carolina has gone up 51% in the past month

(774 today, 513 a month ago. From state website.)

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Breaking: WHO official recants and clarifies after describing asymptomatic transmission of #Covid19 as being “rare.” Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s technical lead for coronavirus response, now says “this is a major unknown” about asymptomatic cases.


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What a shit show.
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Breaking: WHO official recants and clarifies after describing asymptomatic transmission of #Covid19 as being “rare.” Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s technical lead for coronavirus response, now says “this is a major unknown” about asymptomatic cases.


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What a shit show.
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2) The (older) comments appeared to directly contradict guidance from public health organizations, including the CDC, which have said 1/3rd of infections may be asymptomatic. The CDC also estimates 40% of coronavirus transmission occurring before people feel sick—presymptomatic.

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Breaking: WHO official recants and clarifies after describing asymptomatic transmission of #Covid19 as being “rare.” Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s technical lead for coronavirus response, now says “this is a major unknown” about asymptomatic cases.


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What a shit show.
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2) The (older) comments appeared to directly contradict guidance from public health organizations, including the CDC, which have said 1/3rd of infections may be asymptomatic. The CDC also estimates 40% of coronavirus transmission occurring before people feel sick—presymptomatic.

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It is amazing that this is still being debated, presymptomatic transmission was proven back in the end of January!!!

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The doi of the paper from which I took this info graphic changed after a review of the paper in March 2020, but the conclusion of the paper was not changed at all!

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Next news cycle should be starting about now.
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COVID CLIMBING Arizona, Arkansas, Utah, and the other 18 states where coronavirus is on the rise again


In 21 states, including Arizona, Arkansas, and Utah, cases are rising again after the states reopened local businesses amid the outbreak.
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COVID CLIMBING Arizona, Arkansas, Utah, and the other 18 states where coronavirus is on the rise again


In 21 states, including Arizona, Arkansas, and Utah, cases are rising again after the states reopened local businesses amid the outbreak.
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Not looking good at all. This virus spreads easily in closed spaces. Restaurants, Hair saloons, small shops and gyms are coronavirus hubs.
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Sweden to drop daily coronavirus briefings as scandal grows over its loose handling of the pandemic

Sweden’s top health authority will drop daily press briefings that had provided updates on the country’s Covid-19 infection rate and death toll.

The decision comes amid a furore over Sweden’s strategy to fight the pandemic, after state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell admitted his approach was flawed. Instead of every day, updates will now only be provided on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Sweden’s softer lockdown has resulted in one of the world’s highest death rates, relative to its population. But both Tegnell and Prime Minister Stefan Lofven have insisted there’s no need to change strategies. The controversy had turned the briefings into public grillings during which Tegnell was increasingly pressed to explain himself.

The development has embarrassed the government and led to a dramatic slump in Swedish support for the country’s Covid response. During a debate with party leaders on Wednesday, Lofven acknowledged Sweden should have conducted more tests for the virus.
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White House keeps minimizing #COVID19 surge by saying its due to more testing.

In fact, Texas, NC and Alabama all had record hospitalizations today. Arizona hospitals are nearing capacity.

Not surprisingly, this comes 2 weeks after Memorial Day weekend.

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BREAKING: For the 3rd day in a row Texas set a new record for hospitalizations. Texas has now seen hospitalizations increase 42 percent since Memorial Day.

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This isn't due to increased testing -- this is HOSPITALIZATIONS.

The "second wave" isn't coming...it's here, now.

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COVID CLIMBING Arizona, Arkansas, Utah, and the other 18 states where coronavirus is on the rise again


In 21 states, including Arizona, Arkansas, and Utah, cases are rising again after the states reopened local businesses amid the outbreak.
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We’ve been open(ing) here in Iowa for over and month and cases continue to decline- probably slower than they would have.... but it’s still hopeful here.
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COVID CLIMBING Arizona, Arkansas, Utah, and the other 18 states where coronavirus is on the rise again


In 21 states, including Arizona, Arkansas, and Utah, cases are rising again after the states reopened local businesses amid the outbreak.
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We’ve been open(ing) here in Iowa for over and month and cases continue to decline- probably slower than they would have.... but it’s still hopeful here.
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Patience. Iowa isn't a big travel destination. It will take a little longer for things to pick up there.
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From hair salons to gyms, experts rank 36 activities by coronavirus risk level

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Experts have advised people for months to wear masks, wash their hands and stay 6 feet apart. But now that some public places are reopening, individuals must decide for themselves which ones to continue to avoid and which ones pose little risk of spreading the virus.

MLive spoke to the following four public health experts in Michigan, asking them to assess the risk various activities pose to spreading coronavirus.

Dr. Matthew Sims, Beaumont Health director of infectious disease research
Dr. Dennis Cunningham, McLaren Health Care medical director for infection prevention
Dr. Mimi Emig, retired infectious disease specialist with Spectrum Health
Dr. Nasir Husain, Henry Ford Macomb medical director for infection prevention


The doctors pointed to five factors, when considering how risky a given activity might be: Whether it’s inside or outside; proximity to others; exposure time; likelihood of compliance; and personal risk level.

Outdoor activities are generally safer, they said, because the virus becomes less concentrated outside and doesn’t get recirculated around like it could indoors.



The list is at the link, but there is an explanation with each rating, and so it's in paragraph form, and I don't have time to clip it. I'll look around for list list.
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From hair salons to gyms, experts rank 36 activities by coronavirus risk level

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Experts have advised people for months to wear masks, wash their hands and stay 6 feet apart. But now that some public places are reopening, individuals must decide for themselves which ones to continue to avoid and which ones pose little risk of spreading the virus.

MLive spoke to the following four public health experts in Michigan, asking them to assess the risk various activities pose to spreading coronavirus.

Dr. Matthew Sims, Beaumont Health director of infectious disease research
Dr. Dennis Cunningham, McLaren Health Care medical director for infection prevention
Dr. Mimi Emig, retired infectious disease specialist with Spectrum Health
Dr. Nasir Husain, Henry Ford Macomb medical director for infection prevention


The doctors pointed to five factors, when considering how risky a given activity might be: Whether it’s inside or outside; proximity to others; exposure time; likelihood of compliance; and personal risk level.

Outdoor activities are generally safer, they said, because the virus becomes less concentrated outside and doesn’t get recirculated around like it could indoors.



The list is at the link, but there is an explanation with each rating, and so it's in paragraph form, and I don't have time to clip it. I'll look around for list list.
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Facebook link, sorry.

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Bear in mind that these ratings are with precautions being taken by everyone attending.

Without precautions, the risk of getting infected begins to turn into certainty.
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I have said this before but in Chile one of the main outbreaks was traced back to a Gym.

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New IHME model.

169,890 COVID-19 deaths projected by October 1, 2020.

But, worst case scenario is 290K dead.

Buckle up.
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List of vaccines and what trial phase they are in
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Interesting study about 100% use of face masks
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Interesting study about 100% use of face masks
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It is indeed necessary, but also that people use them properly. Most people don’t really use them properly, let the nose out, wear it longer than possible without a change, they touch it and then touch their faces, etc.

As a meme Says: “looking at how people uses their PPE makes me wonder how do they use protection during sex”.
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Beijing district in 'wartime emergency' after virus cluster at major food market

A Beijing district put itself on a "wartime" footing and the capital banned tourism and sports events on Saturday after a cluster of novel coronavirus infections centred around a major wholesale market sparked fears of a new wave of COVID-19.

Forty-five people out of 517 tested with throat swabs at the Xinfadi market in the city's southwestern Fengtai district had tested positive for the coronavirus, Chu Junwei, a district official, told a briefing.

None were showing symptoms of COVID-19, he said, but added that 11 neighbourhoods in the vicinity of the market, which claims to be the largest agricultural wholesale market in Asia, had been locked down with 24-hour guards put in place.
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Beijing district in 'wartime emergency' after virus cluster at major food market

A Beijing district put itself on a "wartime" footing and the capital banned tourism and sports events on Saturday after a cluster of novel coronavirus infections centred around a major wholesale market sparked fears of a new wave of COVID-19.

Forty-five people out of 517 tested with throat swabs at the Xinfadi market in the city's southwestern Fengtai district had tested positive for the coronavirus, Chu Junwei, a district official, told a briefing.

None were showing symptoms of COVID-19, he said, but added that 11 neighbourhoods in the vicinity of the market, which claims to be the largest agricultural wholesale market in Asia, had been locked down with 24-hour guards put in place.
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Here we go again!
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US virus deaths projected to top 113,000 by mid-June: models

Coronavirus-related deaths among Americans are projected to surpass 113,000 by mid-June, a modeling average released Tuesday showed, underlining the US status as the nation worst affected by the pandemic.

The United States has recorded more than 1.5 million confirmed COVID-19 infections and 91,600 fatalities as of Tuesday, but a projection compiled from nine models from separate institutions predicted roughly 22,000 more Americans would succumb to the disease over the next 25 days.




We've been averaging well over 1000 deaths a day. Methinks this model is low.
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Pretty close!.... [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]
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There are lots of doctors who have written papers on HCQ with zinc and the massive success with it.

Why is it people are so obtuse that they love a poorly done large study that doesn't meet the proven criteria?
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Link to studies on the use of these drugs, please.
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And not You Tube videos.

Studies.
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US virus deaths projected to top 113,000 by mid-June: models

Coronavirus-related deaths among Americans are projected to surpass 113,000 by mid-June, a modeling average released Tuesday showed, underlining the US status as the nation worst affected by the pandemic.

The United States has recorded more than 1.5 million confirmed COVID-19 infections and 91,600 fatalities as of Tuesday, but a projection compiled from nine models from separate institutions predicted roughly 22,000 more Americans would succumb to the disease over the next 25 days.




We've been averaging well over 1000 deaths a day. Methinks this model is low.
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Pretty close!.... [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]
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115,036 as of a few minutes ago. Very close. But higher than the model. And, going to be higher by Tuesday the 15th, which I personally would consider mid-month. But, hey, we are only talking a couple thousand.
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