The Official Militant Witch, Wiccan and Pagan Pride Thread; We’re Among You, We’re Here, We’re Not Going Anywhere. Get Used To IT!!

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The Charge of the Horned God
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"And these are the words of Cernunnos, Herne, Atho, Beli, the
voice of the Horned One, He whose names are un-numbered:

I am the wild hunter of the forest deep
And I am the fire upon the hill
And I am the sower of the seed
And the tiller of the soil of the earth.

And I am the golden warrior
Whose arrows are the shafts from the sun
The thunder is my hoof fall
The wilderness my shrine.

I wield the oaken staff
The elements at my call
By day am the sun
by night I ride upon the wild winds.

I am a stag, a tree and mountain
My seed within the earth's dark womb
For I am the Horned One;
Sire of the Universe
Love and Consort of the Goddess am I

In the wilderness doth my spirit dwell
And all wildlings
And fugitives of oppression
Are cherished within my heart.

To such as thee, my hidden children
Am I provider and protector
For all things wild and free
are in my keeping

And all things of beauty and freedom and life
Are joy unto my spirit;
Swiftly I come to merriment and laughter
for these are my invocations

For I am the Lord of all life
Yet also I have a dark face
For I am Death. The Reaper of Souls.
And terrible is this my dark face
To those who know not the mystery.

Yet to my hidden children
Who know and love my spirit
My dark face is also sweet
For tis the face of deep and hidden wisdom.

For I am the giver of knowledge
Life and death are mine to give
From death thou shalt be reborn
Unto new life and love.
Therefor seek my spirit and know me
Bright and dark
Then shalt thou know my mystery

For I am the Ancient One:
My faces outnumber the stars
I am the Horned One of un-numbered names
I am the gentle and the fierce.

I am Cernunnos, Herne, Atho, Belie,
Haro, , the Ancient One
Lord and Sire of the Universe All

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like i said
i know this littol prick
a prancing nancy
giving wiccans
a bad name
a sin in itself, That.
nothing but the boot
well below the root
gay and perverted as the day is long
a soul shattered with no belief
at all
a prancing nancy
drama queen
look at me
me latvian
nobody cares

quite nearby a large oak tree
shakes it leaves
revulsed by this type
of
pretender

go back to fronkensteins
castle and play boy george

Fundies are like that, desperately trying to prove they have
God's" ear, full of hate for everyone who will not follow their own brand of belief. Arguing with them is but banging your forehead on a brick wall, it only feels better when you stop.

Lisa Thiel - Sacred Ancestors' Chant



LYRICS:
Sacred ancestors come to me
Sacred ancestors who love me
Sacred ancestors come to me
Sacred ancestors, please help me

All my mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters
and relations too
Who had love me for always
I keep the light for you!

Wiccans seem like dudes on horses playing croquet or some other kinda faggy event with hoops and polo balls.

that's what my wife keeps saying. only thing is, if we don't respond they keep saying the same things louder and louder. and if that's all anyone hears human nature kicks in and they begin to wonder if maybe the fundie is right. after all, they keep hearing it and no response from us. so i'm trying to ensure that they hear a response. every time i hear a fundie start judging and condemning i try to respond so folks will say to themselves "they keep saying the same thing and every time someone calls bullshit on it. maybe its not true!"

i saw a picture of a sign outside a church that said "a free thinker is satan's slave". that sticks in my craw. fundies don't want people to think. they want them to do as they are told. i'd prefer folks hear more than one view point and make up their own minds. at the very least allow other people to have their own beliefs.

so i am beating my head against the brick wall. i know that. but i also think it needs to be done for all of us.

ROSS. I have every right to DISCERN your false claims against Christianity. Your personal JUDGEMENT, as to heaven or hell, i leave to God. IN FACT,though,it is my duty as a Christian to WARN you that you are on a bad ,Christ-denying path.


Your grandmother may not have said an unkind word,but Jesus surely used unkind words about false religionists like the pharisees,for example. He said they wrere making people twofold more the children of hell than they were. And Jesus himself made absolute claims based on authority. This is what caused the hatred of the phony-as-baloney pharisees.


The pharisees INVENTED their religion just like you have ,btw. Didn't wash with Jesus.


Your shrill tonality may actually be a good sign, Ross. I think maybe your CONSCIENCE is bothering you because you have so neglected and denigrated even, the call of Jesus in your life. Let's HOPE that is the pangs of conscience driving your insulting rhetoric about me and not just simple,plain 'ol everyday banality and arrogance. i AM criticizing you in strong terms. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT ? You trash my God and my religion and every sincere testimony i have posted about Jesus etc. What do you expect a kiss ? You need a boot in the rear premises if you ask me and a mouth bath with soap and some remedial Bible lessons.








And brother...do you need Jesus. Oh yeah. Absolutely.


Here';s a prayer for you;



Lord , I ask in the Precious Efficacious Name of Jesus that the savior make Himself real to this lost wretch, Ross. He is loudmouthed,stubborn and crude but he seems to be suffering the pangs of conscience. Drag him to the foot of the cross Lord and let him KNOW the terrible crime he commits in his heart rejecting the Author and Creator of everything good. He is beyond speech,testimony or any reproval. But he is not beyond your reach and power. And Lord I pray that the TRUE FACE,the HIDEOUS VISAGE of these "spirits" he thinks are his friends and who speak to him be shown to him in all of their satanic glory. I honestly wish him well,Lord, despite his continuous barrage of vitriol and personal invective. I pray that the REALITY of Your Pre-Eminence be impressed upon him. If the prophesied Joel outpouring,the latter rain,is close; let him be called to your communion table one more time. Amen.




There you are,you ungrateful wretch. A true and heartfelt prayer for the salvation of your miserable soul. You were once a beautiful baby boy made in the likeness and image of Christ Jesus and by His grace you can be again. But not if you continue in this vein of deep apostasy and the sin of rejecting the Holy Spirit. let's hope Jesus hasn't already turned his back on you because of your blasphemies. I mean this most sincerely. I am doing you a favor with this testimony. Someday you may thank me for it even.

ye just seem like an asshole.

Good night. Tomorrow I will resume my version of the SETI project....the SILAPOT project. *





* i.e. The Search For Intelligent Life Among the Pagans
on this Thread

ROSS. All jousting aside. I meant that prayer.Maybe you're just like the prodigal son in the parable of Jesus. Peace out.

ye had to judge me before ye decided to warn me. ye have no right. and ye have no discernment. ye see what is not there.

what do ye expect van? ye trash my beliefs and expect a kiss? and if yer going to threaten me with a boot and soap i may reconsider the obscenities. courtesy does not include threatening me with childish punishment and i will not tolerate it.

spoken like a true pentecostal. say the right words so ye can sound holy, then throw in the ungrateful wretch comment just before ye say how heartfelt yer prayer was.

spirit is not a thing i can reject. but yer version of spirit is a loathsome thing. it reeks of hatred and oppression. ye should go back to yer bible van. say the magic word and read it again. ye've missed the teachings of the christ and replaced them with paul's words. paul was not the christ. ye've destroyed yer own religion - i had nothing to do with that.

Dude... you prove the point...!

“Come, Witches, to the Dance!” on MP3

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words and music by Lady Isadora
© 1981, 2006

Come, Witches, to the Dance, to the merry Dance!
Our Lady loves our Lord, O!
With pipe and drum in Moon and Sun
For fair Dian and merry Pan
The old ways are made young, O
The old ways are made young!
When midnight fills the sky, my true love and I
Will cast a circle round, O
With voices strong in chant and song
We'll work our will and drink our fill
And dance the darkness down, O
And dance the darkness down!

CHORUS: To the Lady’s Dance of Life
Her sweet Piper calls
But if you should stumble
If you should fall
Rise up to the Rhythm
That embraces it all

Come, Witches, to the Dance!
All hail the Beltane fire! May it well inspire!
Burn triumphant to the Lady!
She is crowned this day the Queen of May
O’er woods and fields Her green sceptre She wields
The Mother now holds sway, O
The Mother now holds sway
Farewell, Our Lady Green! It is Hallowe’en!
Now the Crone wields Her winter sceptre
Though old and wise, young are Her eyes
Though Death She brings, “Rebirth!” She sings
To all that fades and dies, O
To all that fades and dies
CHORUS: (Repeat)
Once in the Full Moon’s gleam as I lay in dream
Came the Lady to my chamber
In earthly form like woman born
All Time, all Space lay in Her face
I rose to Her embrace, O
I rose to Her embrace
So queenly was She, I fell to my knee
And bent my brow to Her, O
“O no!” said She, “Kneel not to Me
But stand! Arise! Open your eyes!
It is yourself you see, O
Yourself you see in Me!”
Come, Witches, as before, to the Shining Door
Fear not to fling it open!
Fear not to see the Mystery:
That we are Pan and fair Dian
And evermore shall be, O
And evermore shall be!

“Come, Witches, to the Dance!”
from The Witching Hour
by Lady Isadora with Lord Pan
© 1981, 2006
Dance of Life Productions (ASCAP)

get your invisabol sunglasses here

watch the shellgame

its anything you want it to be

popes?
latvianfloperosas
gerbils
my dying assses

who cares

the invisable will give us what it wants to
no more
no less

here lays lester moore
four shots from a fortyfour
no les no more

ROSS.

1) The prayer was heartfelt.


2) You ARE ungrateful and unduly combative with me.




3) NEVERTHELESS. You may,as I say be a prodigal,or a Cornelius, I don't pretend to see your soul. So please don't pretend that is what I have pretense to. But I see paganism in all its sickness and satanic infirmity and I WILL speak up against it. I don't hate you but I hate your "religion" and the spirits animating it. I have met them. they have FANGS.



Someday we may indeed call eachother "brother". But until we are united by the Spirit of Jesus ,it can never be.

Wolfsblood-Goddess




Slavic Pagans.




Don't forget Pagemaker the Wiccan Goddess is Maiden Mother and Crone!

Crone as in the Mother of Supernatural/Underworld/Astral... Working with that energy..


Well lets just say Christians would fear to tread.. An best stay in their Churches ;) Because they wouldn't be able to handle the truth as what they precieve reality to be. ;)


Nightshade 09

we call'em 'jim the expert'

folx that try to tell ya they got an 'inside' to the invisable

only thing they got is their personal delusions
and in the end
they obsess about can someone pleeze agree with my
carcass is too heavy

so far away from an infinity that has no room for carcassoids of any kind

ya just be nice
don't push your version of what we can't see
and stop and have a dounut
maybe starbucks will stay in biznezz
prolly nut

Who gives a flying fuck.

swear to christ i saw it

no ya didn't
it was an eye winker

dangit doesn't that count

yeah with count chockula

Ah, Nightshade09, our paths cross continually enough I wouldn't admonish you for "precieve reality to be" to be perceived enough already...)

Don't like it? Don't have to enter and read ;)

just for the halibut
and the walrus
and the carpenter

what i say about the invisable is like a dog waggin its tale with a boner
wanting to wake up in vegas married to a cat
that its sorry about

hey, that's a good start

the quickest weay to moronville aka planet retard is to claim
you know something about nothing

hey fuck you, i blew up a picture of mars
and aye saw a devil on a toadstool

oh really?

Your a gentle and kind soul Pagemaker alot of love there and unique among mankind.

Its why the spirits behind Burisch choose you as their victim.

Think of me what you will Pagemaker. I've moved on to other things. Preparing for WWIII.


Bright Blessings To You,


Nightshade 09

well lets just sit frozen to ourkeyboards and pretend that the chinese olympics just released a shitstorm
of secret codes
leading to some trapdoor where we don't have to work or pay bills anymore

alex jones will lead us to pentecost
judas priest will lead us to armagoondawn

prepare! quothe the raven
edgar allen poet didn't think it was necessary to tell us that the raven was squaking at the day-old papers he just shit on

there is no end times
sorry about your loss

Not all christians are like that. Many of us follow in Christ's footsteps and have compassion for everyone, no matter who they are, what they have done, their sexual orientation, and their religion. Heavenly Father does not discriminate. Why should we discriminate?

I do think that Wicca is a wonderful, and rich religion.

unfortunately anyone that's the least bit enlightened in this day and age becomes
politically polarized

its not all about feel good channeling and never was

question:

why, when the budda and christ were here
queezycotle and the rest
didn't peace come
instantly

answer: it don't come easy

it come slowly

ergo

it ain't even close to over yet
its just starting to come

Edgars,


I did for for you what I could, at the time. Whatever was 'leaked' was anticipated in advance. As for whatever 'victim' Burisch thought, you and I were rumoured to have been in cahoots with some false affadavit linking us. That too was false. Neither of us was guilty of what we were accused. Our consciousnesses are clear of that 'negative karma.' I am preparing for 'Kingdom Come' more than WWIII, and have only but recently remembered how the former originated almost 30 years ago now. It's a long road, we both know that, and perhaps knowing the answers 'lie within' leaves the other "lies" at the door neither of us would allow entrance, Witch, Wiccan, or Christian notwithstanding.

unfortunately those of us that vainly thinkourselves
enlightened
still hafta drag all the repulsive we think other humans with us
kicking and screaming to gain entrance to eden

the whole fam damily

yes, that includes those you consider lost
yes, it is a good tv show

yes this is going to take quite some time
relax
have a joint
or a beer
or a good dose of ommm
first of all calm the fuck down

the invisable is not about panic
panic is what we do here at I suck
to prevent panic
hey you mean we are doing something?
not really
we still have the whole fam damily dragging after us
like so many unrepentant leeches

I did not say all Christians are bad or dare I say evil. Many of you are good kind hearted people and gasp a few of you are close friends to me.

Yet you are all still governed for the most part by fears and superstitions instilled into you by nearly 2000 years of "Church and Dogma." Anything that falls outside of your 'Christian' up bringing you automatically assume its evil.

For the most part these fears and biases have been projected outward within greater society until things like this happen to anyone 'not Christian approved.'

If that had happened to Christians there would have been marches and protests in the street. Coast to Coast.

But since they were non-Christian. I can tell you no one said a word or spoke up other then lawyers.

August 18, 2005

The Indiana Court of Appeals has invalidated a county judge’s order that barred divorcing Wiccan parents from exposing their only child to their spiritual practices.

In early 2004, Marion County Superior Court Chief Judge Cale J. Bradford granted a divorce to Thomas E. Jones Jr. and Tammie U. Bristol. The order directed the Indianapolis residents “to take such steps as are needed to shelter [the child] from involvement and observation of these non-mainstream religious beliefs and rituals.”

Bradford was alerted to the Pagan beliefs of Jones and Bristol by a report from the state’s Domestic Relations Counseling Bureau, which noted that the then-nine-year-old child attended a Catholic school. The report declared that the parents displayed “little insight into the confusion these divergent belief systems will have upon (the boy) as he ages.”

During the divorce hearing, Judge Bradford’s questioning of the couple on their spiritual beliefs and practices revealed the judge’s utter misunderstanding of the Wiccan faith and his indifference to religious liberty.

“All right, while the two of you are free to engage in any kind of behaviors you want to that are lawful, or that you don’t get caught at, I suppose, where you’ve got a child involved, that freedom can be somewhat limited,” Bradford said, according to the proceeding’s record. “First of all I want to get some information and I’ll start with you, sir, from your religion, and how exactly that is practiced and what implication that has on the child.”

While Jones was attempting to describe a Wiccan ritual, Bradford interrupted with the remark, “[P]eople might think that you worship Satan.” According to the record, Jones retorted, “I can’t worship something if I don’t believe in it.”

Following that hearing, Bradford issued the divorce decree containing the order that both Jones and Bristol shelter their child from their spiritual practices. Wicca is a Pagan belief system that centers on nature. Both parents were incensed and filed a motion asking the judge to remove the order. Bradford denied their motion in November 2004.

The parents, represented by the Indiana Civil Liberties Union, then asked the Court of Appeals of Indiana to reverse Bradford’s action.

A three-judge panel unanimously did so on Aug. 17. At the outset of the 8-page opinion, Judge Patricia A. Riley, citing state and federal court precedent, noted that parents “have a constitutionally recognized fundamental right to control the upbringing, education, and religious training of their children.”

However, the appeals court did not reverse Bradford’s decree on constitutional principle. Instead, Riley pointed to part of Indiana’s domestic law that the parent with custody, in this case Jones, “may determine the child’s upbringing, including the child’s education, health care, and religion training.”

The law limits the custodial parent’s power to determine those factors only if the court agrees with an argument from the noncustodial parent that the child’s physical or mental health “would be significantly impaired” by the custodian’s decisions. Additionally that law allows for both parents to offer a written agreement for the court’s approval on the child’s upbringing.

In ruling in Jones v. Jones, the Indiana appeals court noted that the parents did not submit a document calling on the trial court to limit Jones’ custodial authority.

“In fact, Mother, whom the Decree named as the noncustodial parent, is also a practicing Wiccan and joined in the motion” to nullify Judge Bradford’s order.

The appeals court then concluded that Bradford lacked authority to curtail Jones’ custodial powers because the judge had no proof that the child would be harmed physically or mentally by exposure to Wiccan practices.

Judge Bradford was way off base when he demanded that Jones and Bristol keep their child from partaking in Wiccan rituals. It is a fundamental right, protected by the U.S. Constitution and many state laws, for parents to rear their children without unreasonable interference by government. Giving parents orders on religious matters, which is what Bradford did, was clearly unreasonable. The Indiana Court of Appeals was right to correct Bradford’s glaring error.

As the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told the Associated Press, judges cannot substitute their religious judgment for that of parents.

“This is an absurd result,” Lynn said in regards to Bradford’s decree, “because in the eyes of the law being a Pagan should be no different from being a Presbyterian.”

By Jeremy Leaming


Btw Thomas E. Jones Jr. and Tammie U. Bristol are good friends of mine and former Coven members.