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The Official Militant Witch, Wiccan and Pagan Pride Thread; We’re Among You, We’re Here, We’re Not Going Anywhere. Get Used To IT!!

 
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I am a Pagan.
I am a part of the whole of Nature.

The Rocks, the Animals,
the Plants, the Elements, are my relatives.

Other Humans are my sisters and brothers, whatever their races, colors, or sexual preferences.

The Earth is my Mother and the Sky is my Father.
The Sun and the Moon are my Grandparents, and the Stars my Ancestors.

I am a part of this large family of Nature, not the master of it.
I have my own special part to play and I seek to play that part to the best of my ability.
I seek to live in harmony with others in the family of Nature, treating others with respect not abuse.

I am a Pagan.

I celebrate the changing seasons, the turning of the Wheel of the Year, with music, feasting, rituals, and celebrations.

Samhain, or Halloween, is a time for paying homage to my ancestors and friends who have passed into the Spirit world and a time for gazing into the future.

Yule, the Winter Solstice, is a festival of Peace, Light, and the Celebration of the new Sun, and my home is filled with lights and Holly, Mistletoe, Evergreens, and other herbs sacred to the season.

Candlemas, Imbolc, or Groundhogs day at the beginning of February, is a festival of purification,a time for clearing away blockages to prepare for the coming of Spring and new growth.

At Ostara, the Spring Equinox, I celebrate the greening of the Earth by dressing in green myself and sharing colored eggs with friends.

Beltane, May Eve, is a festival of fertility and creativity, and I decorate myself with bright colors and flowers and dance the Maypole to bless gardens and projects in the growing season.

Summer Solstice, Litha, is a grand gathering time when I meet old friends and greet new ones, and celebrate the change of the Sun by burning the Yule wreath made six months before.

Lughnassad, Lammas, is a celebration of the height of Summer, and I give thanks for the herbs and other blessings that are starting to come to fruition and pray for the continued abundance.

Fall Equinox, Mabon, is the time of Thanksgiving for all the harvests I've reaped during the growing time.

At Samhain, the Year starts again.

I am a Pagan.

I pay attention to the seasons within myself And others. --- of beginnings, growth, fruition, harvest, endings, rest, and beginnings again. Life is a Circle with many cycles.

I am a Pagan.

I work magick by the Moon to help and to heal myself and others. I activate beginnings in the Waxing, energize manifestations at the Full, clear away obstructions with the Waning, and experience the wisdom of transformation at the Dark.

I take part in Circles at the New and Full Moons, and I know that my Circles are part of the whole web of Circles that meet at these times around the Planet.

I am a Pagan.

With every Death there is a Rebirth.
For every problem there is a solution and an opportunity for growth. I create my own reality with my thoughts, feelings, and actions.

Whatever I send out always returns.
I seek to abide by the Rede: An It Harm None, Do What You Will.

When I work magick, before I raise and direct energy I seek always to look at the larger picture of which my needs are just a part.

When problems come my way, I seek to understand their cause and messages as part of my finding a solution.

In doing healing work, I seek to correct the underlying cause, rather than just treat symtoms.

I am a Pagan.

I acknowledge that the Divine is everywhere in the energy of life.
I am Animistic.
I sense the life force in the Oak tree on the hill, in the Herbs in the garden, in the Birds singing at my window, in the Boulders on the hill, in myself, and yes, even in things such as my car and computer.

I understand that everything has its physical and non physical aspects, The physical and spiritual are deeply intertwined, not separate, and one is not better than the other.

I am a Pagan.

I know that Divinity has many facets and I Experience this through a variety of Goddesses and Gods.

I also honor Divine Oneness, the Unity of All.
My personal encounters with Pagan Goddesses and Gods have transformed and enriched my life.

Hecate appeared at a Death to teach me of Release and Rebirth,
As a young child, Artemis flowed through me to scare off a rapist, Selene of the Bright Moon brings me visions and my name.

I have heard Pan play his pipes in the glade, and Cernunnos has appeared to me in the forest as a young stag.
I've experienced the union of Goddess and God while making love to my mate in the fields on Beltane Eve.
Bast has helped me deepen my connections with my cat friends.
Isis has spoken to me in bursts of radiance in the deep of the night and in flows of energy through my hands in doing healings.

I am a Pagan.

My worship is one of communion, not groveling.
I share my views with others when I sense it is right, but I do not proselytize ---- there are many ways, not one way, of spiritual growth.

My holy places are under the open sky ------in the Stone Circle, in the Oak grove, on the top of the mound .------ on the Vision Rock on the high cliff ------- in the Garden, in the fields ------ in the Sweatlodge by the Stream------by the clear pool of the Sacred Spring ------ in the Rainbow Cave in the valley.

Yet my worship can be anywhere ------- my magick circle is portable.

I can call to the four quarters, to the Earth and Sky, and to the central Spirit point wherever I may be.

I am a Pagan.

I journey into the Otherworld in my dreams, My Meditations, my Rituals.

I use magickal tools to aid me in my journeys and my magicks - - incense, cauldron, candles, chalices of water, pentacles of salt, crystals, feathers, bells, rattles, drum, wand, staff, blade, and mirror.

I fly with my consciousness through time and space.
I return with insights.
I go between the worlds for healing, growth, and transformation. Psychic perception is a natural, not supernatural, part of my daily life.

I am a Pagan.

I attune myself to the four elements of Nature - - Earth, Air, Fire, Water - - and to the fifth element, Spirit, which is the force that connects all.
I see these elements as parts of my Self - - my physical Body is my Earth, my Intellect, my Air, my Will, my Fire, my Emotions, my Water, and my Inner Self is my Spirit.
I endeavor to keep myself healthy and in balance in all these parts of Self.

I am a Pagan.

I hear the cries of Mother Earth.
I see the pollution of the air, the soil, the waters.
I see the games being played by nations with the fire of nuclear weapons.
I see the spiritual pollution, too - - selfishness, hatred, greed for money and power, despair.
I sense these things, but I sense, too, a cleansing, healing energy manifesting on the Planet at this time.
I know that I can help bring the Planet into greater balance by seeking balance in my own life.
I know that my attitudes and my way of living can make a difference.
I endeavor to be a channel for healing and balance.

I am a Pagan.

by Selena Fox, Circle Sanctuary



Loreena McKennitt- All Souls Night






Lyrics:
Bonfires dot the rolling hillsides.
Figures dance around and around
to drums that pulse out echoes of darkness;
moving to the pagan sound.

Somewhere in a hidden memory
images float before my eyes
of fragrant nights of straw and of bonfires,
dancing till the next sunrise.

I can see the lights in the distance
trembling in the dark cloak of night.
Candles and lanterns are dancing, dancing
a waltz on all souls night.

Figures of cornstalks bend in the shadows
held up tall as the flames leap high.
The Green Knight holds the holly bush
to mark where the old year passes by.

Bonfires dot the rolling hillsides.
Figures dance around and around
to drums that pulse out echoes of darkness;
moving to the pagan sound.

Standing on the bridge that crosses
the river that goes out to the sea.
The wind is full of a thousand voices;
they pass by the bridge and me.
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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same as catholics- just a different uniform
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Loreena McKennitt - The Mystic's Dream - Stonehenge




Loreena McKennitt - The old ways


"In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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nightshade, ye've got some good stuff there. can't say i follow all of yer stuff cause it delves a bit into wiccan practice which is not mine. then again, maybe it's just ye sharing some of the material ye have to start wheels turning.

what do ye think of the van helsing? not as a person, but the claims he made about shamans, witches, elves and faeries? do ye think there is a danger in any of this? just curiosity on my part. looking to see where other folks have gone in this dance.
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no response from ye yet and i've little patience today thanks to van helsing i suspect. so i'll add my own perspective.

my cultures of celtic and cherokee both have a very healthy respect for and a bit of fear of the little people. they operate by different standards that we do and with a completely different agenda. any dealings with them are fraught with danger. mostly because invariably there is more to the equation than it appears on the surface. there is inevitably more to any agreement than ye would think.

having said that, i must add that in my experience if they are given courtesy and respect they live and let live. there are those of them that have developed a hatred for humans, true. as humans we earned that hatred. even they are deserving of courtesy though. they are there whether ye see them or not. it seems to me that giving them courtesy goes a long way towards negating their tendencies to mischief.
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He's nuts.

I have been a Witch since 1984. Practiced Magic and the Craft for just as long. As well as a child of the Goddess and God.

I've seen ALOT of paranormal sights in my time. Some of it that could make most folks hair stand on end yet 98% positive though.

The ONLY Danger in Magic comes from idiots playing with fire which they do not understand nor have any respect for. They usaully end up in Van Helsing's church screaming for help..lol

MAGIC, WITCHCRAFT, MAGICAL POWERS what ever one wishes to call it. Comes not from the supernatural. But from within ones self. Ones innate and ancient ancient power that resides within us all! Knowledge of which has been surpressed by TPTB because in doing so they they enslave us within their wish of how the world should be.

Magic is slumbering Dragon in a Mythical Cave Deep which is the Ego and Id within us all. Not outside of ourselves.

Awaken your Dargon, throw mount across its back Tame it. An Sometimes you literally do the impossible!

But if their intent and heart is not pure and their soul innocent. They met their own self created devil. An that they can not deal with.

Again ALL magic comes from within ones self. That is what Witchcraft ritual does. It awakens the Sleeper within..

To use the analogy its like taking the Water of Life ;)






An once you have there is no going back...


Nightshade 09



nightshade, ye've got some good stuff there. can't say i follow all of yer stuff cause it delves a bit into wiccan practice which is not mine. then again, maybe it's just ye sharing some of the material ye have to start wheels turning.

what do ye think of the van helsing? not as a person, but the claims he made about shamans, witches, elves and faeries? do ye think there is a danger in any of this? just curiosity on my part. looking to see where other folks have gone in this dance.
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MAGIC, WITCHCRAFT, MAGICAL POWERS what ever one wishes to call it. Comes not from the supernatural. But from within ones self. Ones innate and ancient ancient power that resides within us all! Knowledge of which has been surpressed by TPTB because in doing so they they enslave us within their wish of how the world should be.
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the supernatural is only that which has not yet been understood. there is magic from outside ourselves though in my experience. the plants, animals and spirits i talk with are outside of me. when my grandmother came to me for help with dying it was from outside myself. if i do not have the core understanding and strength to deal with it i would be overwhelmed it is true. so from that perspective i reckon ye could say that the power comes from within.

the magic in my life is not just an internal thing. the control must be exercised from my core, but there is still a magic from outside me. the magic of life that connects us all i suspect. if it was all internal there would be no need for an outside world to interact with...

as usual, just my opinion. that and the correct amount of money will buy ye a cup of coffee.
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There are those that say Wiccans, Pagans and Witches serve the dark powers..


Let see Witches Doing Magical Battle agaisnt the TPTB..

Wiccan Chant "She Changes Everything She Touches" (Live)



Starhawk speaks at the rally before the Bohemian Grove protest march and she practiced together, with other Wiccans and other people a spell against the Grovers, than they Chanted the popular chant "She changes everything she touches". The Ritual was awesome and Starhawk and the Wiccan High-Priest were the leaders of the Ritual and the Protest.
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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ONEANGRYMOM- no. Shame on you for not coming to the defense of Christ and His Word rather tha take the part of those distorting and rewriting his Word and INVENTING their own idolatrous religion in its place. I am sorry to say you are a slave to the illusion that one who arrogantly rewrites the Bible and disputes the claims of Christ Jesus is any brother of mine ! It's a shame you didn't feel real loyalty to Jesus rather than to the falsehhods and false teachers of these "pagans" wrongly so called. But that is your choice. You've made a bad one.
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ONEANGRYMOM- no. Shame on you for not coming to the defense of Christ and His Word rather tha take the part of those distorting and rewriting his Word and INVENTING their own idolatrous religion in its place. I am sorry to say you are a slave to the illusion that one who arrogantly rewrites the Bible and disputes the claims of Christ Jesus is any brother of mine ! It's a shame you didn't feel real loyalty to Jesus rather than to the falsehhods and false teachers of these "pagans" wrongly so called. But that is your choice. You've made a bad one.
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yer a moron. go back to playing with yerself retard.
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You are so eloquent and wise,Ross. Such a credit to your cause. How can i possibly compete with such a noble and silver tongued orator whose words drip honey and the morning dew ?



You will have your reward for your betrayal of Christ Jesus............JUDAS.
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You are so eloquent and wise,Ross. Such a credit to your cause. How can i possibly compete with such a noble and silver tongued orator whose words drip honey and the morning dew ?



You will have your reward for your betrayal of Christ Jesus............JUDAS.
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bite me asshole. i've no more patience with bigots like ye.
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Don't be so fearful and hypersensitive. I am watching and listening to hear the extraordinary gems of gnosis and deep spirituality being posted here. So far only generalities and anti-Christian drivel. I am waiting for someone with more than 27 spiritual I.Q. points to engage. It's not chivalrous, as i have said before,to repeatedly engage in a battle of wits with unarmed combatents like yourself, Ross. I am waiting. waiting for a "pagan' who thinks he REALLY has the goods about this so-called religion of paganism.



I am not done skewering this spiritual abomination. But i am waiting. I don't want to waste labor and scholarship and passion on the foolish. No- I am waiting for someone who is a "high-powered" wiccan or pagan, a real genius and master of the arts; at least in his own mind. So far I only see faeries with gossamer wings. Crackbrained cosmologists( Hard truth? Are you there ?) and other less than notable proponents. I also hope that i find a pagan with soul-deep honesty to engage- not you foul mouthed,hostile propagandists for the cause. There has to be ONE. 100,000 hits on GLP ? Cmon.



The more I read this thread the more I am revolted by your brazen opposition to Christ and His Word. Just so you know.


And so I will watch and wait. I have more to say but I am waiting for someone who seems worth saying it to. A good pagan,like Cornelius in the Book of Acts who had the ear of the Lord and came to recognize the unrivalled Kingship of the Lord Jesus.


Lord, send a Cornelius who will shame these other cultists with real spiritual sincerity. Amen.
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Lord, send a Cornelius who will shame these other cultists with real spiritual sincerity. Amen.
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ye don't want a conversation, ye want a cheering squad. go away fake little man. yer bigotry and hate are of the devil.
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ONEANGRYMOM- no. Shame on you for not coming to the defense of Christ and His Word rather tha take the part of those distorting and rewriting his Word and INVENTING their own idolatrous religion in its place. I am sorry to say you are a slave to the illusion that one who arrogantly rewrites the Bible and disputes the claims of Christ Jesus is any brother of mine ! It's a shame you didn't feel real loyalty to Jesus rather than to the falsehhods and false teachers of these "pagans" wrongly so called. But that is your choice. You've made a bad one.
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If Christ needs defending, I have misunderstood the message of "The Gospel" my entire life.

Whether I am a Christian or a Pagan is frankly NONE OF YOUR CONCERN!

I am an outsider to this conversation and was expressing truth, even if it's according to my own perspective. According to my perspective, you are an egotistical and dark, angry individual who spouts the form of religion and has no love.

If that makes me a pagan in your eyes, then be careful what you bring upon yourself by your own hatred.

I will not hate.
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I will not hate.
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good for ye sister!!!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Witch (etymology)
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The etymology of the word witch traces back to the Old English language with the German and Indo-European languages as possible older sources

Germanic etymology

The word witch derives from the Old English nouns wicca /ˈwitʧɑ/ (masc.) "sorcerer, wizard" and wicce /ˈwitʧe/ (fem.) "sorceress, witch". The verb wiccian has a cognate in Middle Low German wicken (attested from the 13th century, besides wichelen). Otherwise, no Germanic cognates outside English are attested.

The exact etymology of wicce is problematic.

* The OED states that the noun is "apparently" deverbal (derived from wiccian), but for the verb merely states that it is "of obscure origin".
* Grimm, Deutsches Wörterbuch connect the "Ingvaeonic word" *wikkōn with Gothic weihs "sacred" (PIE *weik- "to separate, to divide", probably via early Germanic practices of cleromancy such as those reported by Tacitus,[1] but also consider *weik- "to curve, bend" (which became wicken "hop, dance") and *weg'h- "to move" (in a sense of "to make mysterious gestures"). Barbara G. Walker gives prominence to this origin, which she believes refers to the witch's ability to bend and shape the threads of reality.[2]
* The Online Etymology Dictionary states a "possible connection to Gothic weihs "holy" and Germanic weihan "consecrate," and writes, "the priests of a suppressed religion naturally become magicians to its successors or opponents."[3]
* R. Lühr[4] connects wigol "prophetic, mantic", w&#299;glian "to practice divination" (Middle Low German wichelen "bewitch", wicker "soothsayer") and suggests Proto-Germanic *wig&#333;n, geminated (c.f. Verschärfung) to *wikk&#333;n. The basic form would then be the feminine, wicce < *wikkæ < *wikk&#333;n with palatalization due to the preceding i and the following *æ < *&#333;n in early Ingvaeonic. The palatal -cc- /&#679;/ in wicca would then be analogous to the feminine.
* An alternative possibility is to derive the palatal /&#679;/ directly from the verb wiccian < *wikkija.[5] Lühr conversely favours derivation of this verb from the noun.
* The American Heritage Dictionary connects PIE *weg'- "rouse" (English wake), and offers the Proto-Germanic reconstruction *wikkjaz "one who wakes the dead".[6]

other suggestions for the underlying root are untenable or widely rejected:

* Grimm reject a connection with *wek- "speak", suggested by P. Lessiak (ZfDA 53, 1912).
* Walter William Skeat[7] derived the word from PIE *weid-, Old English wita "wise man, wizard" and witan "to know", considering it a corruption of an earlier *witga. No Old English spelling with -t- is known, and this etymology is not accepted today[8].
* Robert Graves in his 1948 The White Goddess, in discussing the willow which was sacred to the Greek goddess Hecate, connects the word to a root *wei- which connotes bending or pliance[9], by saying: "Its connection with witches is so strong in Northern Europe, that the words 'witch' and 'wicked' are derived from the same ancient word for willow, which also yields 'wicker'." This confounds English and Scandinavian evidence, since the weak root in English has no connection with willows, and Old Norse has no word for "witch" cognate to the English.[10]

[edit] Old English

Old English also had hægtesse "witch, fury", whence Modern English hag, of uncertain origin, but cognate to German Hexe, possibly from a *haga-tusjon- "fence-wight" or similar. Other Old English synonyms of wicca and wicce include gealdricge, scinlæce, hellrúne.

The Old English plural form for both the masculine and feminine nouns was wiccan (= "witches") and wiccecræft was "witchcraft". The earliest recorded use of the word is in the Laws of Ælfred which date to circa 890:[11][12][13]

Tha faemnan, the gewuniath onfon gealdorcraeftigan and scinlaecan and wiccan, ne laet thu tha libban.
Women who are accustomed to receiving enchanters and sorceresses and witches, do not let them live!

In the homilies of the Old English grammarian Ælfric, dating to the late 10th century we find:

Ne sceal se cristena befrinan tha fulan wiccan be his gesundfulnysse.
A Christian should not consult foul witches concerning his prosperity.

In both these examples wiccan is the plural noun, not an adjective. The adjective fulan (foul) can mean "physically unclean" as well as "morally or spiritually unclean" or "wicked".

In Old English glossaries the words wicce and wicca are used to gloss such Latin terms as hariolus, conjector, and pythonyssa, all of which mean 'diviner', 'soothsayer', which suggests a possible role of fortune-teller for the witch in Anglo-Saxon times. The word wicca is associated with animistic healing rites in Halitgar's Latin Penitential where it is stated that

Some men are so blind that they bring their offering to earth-fast stone and also to trees and to wellsprings, as the witches teach, and are unwilling to understand how stupidly they do or how that dead stone or that dumb tree might help them or give forth health when they themselves are never able to stir from their place.

The phrase swa wiccan tæcaþ ("as the witches teach") seems to be an addition to Halitgar's original, added by an 11th century Old English translator.[14] Anglo-Saxon times.

[edit] From Old to Modern English

The Middle English word wicche did not differentiate between masculine and feminine, however the masculine meaning became less common in Standard English, being replaced by words like 'wizard' and 'warlock'. The modern spelling witch with the medial 't' first appears in the 16th century. In current colloquial English "witch" is almost exclusively applied to women, and the OED has "now only dialectal" for the masculine noun, although some Wiccans and other Neopagans apply it equally to men and women.

Figurative use to refer to a bewitching young girl begins in the 18th century[15], while wiche as a contemptuous term for an old woman is attested since the 15th century. "A witch of Endor" (alluding to 1 Samuel 28:7) as a fanciful term for a medium appears in 19th century literature.

[edit] Modern "Wicca"

The modern term "Wica" (pronounced /&#712;w&#618;.k&#601;/ (OED), with spelling later standardised to "Wicca") first appears in the writings of Gerald Gardner.[16][17] He used the word as a mass noun referring to the adherents of his tradition of witchcraft, rather than the religion itself. The religion he referred to as 'witchcraft', never 'Wicca'.

Gardner himself claimed he learned the term from existing members of the group who initiated him into witchcraft in 1939:

"I realised I had stumbled on something interesting; but I was half-initiated before the word "Wica" which they used hit me like a thunderbolt, and I knew where I was, and that the Old Religion still existed."[18][19]

The word does not appear in the rituals commonly used nowadays in Gardnerian covens, which were composed by 1959.[20]

Following Gardner a few other early books about Gardner's witchcraft tradition also used the term, with the same spelling and meaning as Gardner. For example, Patricia and Arnold Crother in The Witches Speak (1959):[21]

[T]he Red Queen told Alice that she made words mean what wanted them to mean. She might very well have been talking about witchcraft, for today it is used to describe anything that one wishes to use it for. From the simple meaning "the craft of the Wica," it is used in connection with Black Magic, Satanism, Black Masses...

Also Raymond Buckland in Witchcraft - the Religion (1966):[22]

Today more and more people are turning to the Wica, finding the answer to their religious needs.

The spelling Wicca is now used almost exclusively, Seax-Wica being the only major use of the four-letter spelling. The first appearance of the spelling Wicca is in June John's 1969 book King of the Witches: The World of Alex Sanders.[23]

The word's first appearance within the title of a book was in Wicca: The Ancient Way published in 1981.[24]

The earliest evidence of the common adjectival form "Wiccan", also used as a noun, dates from the 1970s.[25]




1. ^ Reallexikon der germanischen Altertumskunde IV, p. 506.
2. ^ Walker, Barbara G. (1983). The Women's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets.
3. ^ Online Etymology Dictionary: "witch"
4. ^ R. Lühr, Expressivität und Lautgesetz im Germanischen, Heidelberg (1988), p. 354
5. ^ OED, s.v. witch
6. ^ The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language 4th Edition, online (2000): witch and *weg-. Accessed 3 May 2006.
7. ^ Principles of English Etymology (2 series, 1887 and 1891)
8. ^ but see Draeconin's etymology page. (accessed 2 May 2007)
9. ^ whence English weak; Grimm s.v. Weide
10. ^ wicker an East Scandinavian loan, entering the English language in the 14th century. The English cognate of the root yields withy, and the "willow" word in all old Germanic languages has the dental (ON víðir). The wicker word is in fact from the *weik- root employed for "hop, dance" etymology considered by Grimm, irrespective of willows. See Oxford English Dictionary, s.v. witch n2, witch, wych n3. (Online edition, accessed 5/9/07)
11. ^ Oxford English Dictionary Online, 2nd Edition (1989).
12. ^ Bosworth, Joseph & T. Northcote Toller. (1998) An Anglo-Saxon dictionary, based on the manuscript collections of the late Joseph Bosworth; edited and enlarged by T. Northcote Toller. Oxford: Oxford University Press (reprint of 1898 edition). ISBN 0-19-863101-4
13. ^ Online Etymology Dictionary - witch
14. ^ Petterson, David C. Hostile Witnesses: Rescuing the History of Witchcraft from the Writings of Scholars and Churchmen. PO Box 62266, St. Louis Pk, MN 55426: David C. Petterson.
15. ^ Samuel Richardson, Pamela; or virtue rewarded (1739–40) has: "Mrs. Jervis, said he, take the little witch from me"
16. ^ Gardner, Gerald (1954). Witchcraft Today.
17. ^ Gardner, Gerald (1959). The Meaning of 'Witchcraft'.
18. ^ Gerald Gardner, The Meaning of Witchcraft 11 (London: Acquarian, 1959)
19. ^ J. L. Bracelin Gerald Gardner: Witch 151 (1960; reprinted Thame, Oxford: I-H-O Books, 1999)
20. ^ Heselton, Philip (2000). Wiccan Roots: Gerald Gardner and the Modern Witchcraft Revival. Chieveley, Berkshire: Capall Bann. [page # needed]
21. ^ Patricia and Arnold Crother, The Witches Speak 39 (Douglas, I.o. M: Athol Publications, 1965)
22. ^ Raymond Buckland Witchcraft - the Religion 20 (Brentwood, NY: The Buckland Museum of Witchcraft and Magick, 1966)
23. ^ June Johns, King of the Witches: The World of Alex Sanders, (London, Peter Davies, 1969)
24. ^ Janus Mithras, Nuit Hilaria, Mer Amun, Wicca: The Ancient Way, (Toronto, Canada: Isis Urania, 1981)
25. ^ Stewart Farrar, What Witches Do: The Modern Coven Revealed, (Peter Davies, 1971), vi. 87
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Well, it's been an experience to say at list. I red every word here on one sitting from start to this moment.

Thank you, Ross, Nightshade, PlainTruth, and Angry mom, for holding on.

Thank you, Van Helsssssing, for stimulate, ( even if only subconscious, it's not what you aimed for).
It wouldn't happen without you.

I been at one time an altar boy for the man who later became John Poul the second. (he knew more than he was allowed to express)

Today I am back to my roots as a pagan.
That where my hart harmonize.

anyway, thank you brothers and sisters for your courage and strenght.

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magick only goes so far and does so much and i'm tired of it.
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magick only goes so far and does so much and i'm tired of it.
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then don't do any. it's yer choice ye know. none of us will think any less of ye should ye choose to stop.
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Don't be so fearful and hypersensitive. I am watching and listening to hear the extraordinary gems of gnosis and deep spirituality being posted here. So far only generalities and anti-Christian drivel. I am waiting for someone with more than 27 spiritual I.Q. points to engage. It's not chivalrous, as i have said before,to repeatedly engage in a battle of wits with unarmed combatents like yourself, Ross. I am waiting. waiting for a "pagan' who thinks he REALLY has the goods about this so-called religion of paganism.



I am not done skewering this spiritual abomination. But i am waiting. I don't want to waste labor and scholarship and passion on the foolish. No- I am waiting for someone who is a "high-powered" wiccan or pagan, a real genius and master of the arts; at least in his own mind. So far I only see faeries with gossamer wings. Crackbrained cosmologists( Hard truth? Are you there ?) and other less than notable proponents. I also hope that i find a pagan with soul-deep honesty to engage- not you foul mouthed,hostile propagandists for the cause. There has to be ONE. 100,000 hits on GLP ? Cmon.



The more I read this thread the more I am revolted by your brazen opposition to Christ and His Word. Just so you know.


And so I will watch and wait. I have more to say but I am waiting for someone who seems worth saying it to. A good pagan,like Cornelius in the Book of Acts who had the ear of the Lord and came to recognize the unrivalled Kingship of the Lord Jesus.


Lord, send a Cornelius who will shame these other cultists with real spiritual sincerity. Amen.
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Spiritual love with sincerity and your meanderings don't even belong on the same page!!

You spew forth verbal hate towards your fellow man like some backbirth demon spawn and you seek intelligent conversation?

You couldn't get to first base grasshopper, I'd leave you standing in your own piss stained britches!!



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Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
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A good pagan,like Cornelius in the Book of Acts who had the ear of the Lord and came to recognize the unrivalled Kingship of the Lord Jesus.


Lord, send a Cornelius who will shame these other cultists with real spiritual sincerity. Amen.
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van, how many times do i gotta tell ye? paul is not the christ! yer damning yer soul to eternal hell! repent and get back on the jesus wagon!
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13 Principles of Wiccan Belief






1. We practice rites to attune ourselves with the natural rhythm of life forces marked by the phases of the Moon and the seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarters.

2. We recognize that our intelligence gives us a unique responsibility toward our environment. We seek to live in harmony with Nature, in ecological balance offering fulfillment to life and consciousness within an evolutionary concept.

3. We acknowledge a depth of power far greater than that apparent to the average person. Because it is far greater than ordinary it is sometimes called "supernatural", but we see it as lying within that which is naturally potential to all.

4. We conceive of the Creative Power in the universe as manifesting through polarity-as masculine and feminine-and that this same Creative Power lies in all people, and functions through the interaction of the masculine and feminine. We value neither (gender) above the other, knowing each to be supportive to the other. We value sex as pleasure, as the symbol and embodiment of life, and as one of the sources of energies used in magickal practice and religious worship.

5. We recognize both outer worlds and inner, of psychological, worlds sometimes known as the Spiritual World, the Collective Unconscious, Inner Planes, etc.-and we see in the inter-action of these two dimensions the basis for paranormal phenomena and magickal exercises. We neglect neither dimension for the other, seeing both as necessary for our fulfillment.

6. We do not recognize any authoritarian hierarchy, but do honor those who teach, respect those who share their greater knowledge and wisdom, and acknowledge those who have courageously given of themselves in leadership.

7. We see religion, magick and wisdom in living as being united in the way one views the world and lives within it- a world view and philosophy of life which we identify as Witchcraft- the Wiccan Way.

8. Calling oneself "Witch" does not make a Witch-but neither does heredity itself, nor the collecting of titles, degrees and initiations. A Witch seeks to control the forces within her/himself that make life possible in order to live wisely and well without harm to other and in harmony with Nature.

9. We believe in the affirmation and fulfillment of life in a continuation of evolution and development of consciousness giving meaning to the Universe we know and our personal role within it.

10. Our only animosity towards Christianity, or toward any other religion or philosophy of life, is to the extent that its institutions have clamed to be "the only way" and have sought to deny freedom to others and to suppress other ways of religious practice and belief.

11. As American Witches, we are not threatened by debates on the history of the Craft, the origins of various terms, the legitimacy of various aspects of different traditions. We are concerned with our present and our future.

12. We do not accept the concept of absolute evil, nor do we worship any entity known as "Satan" or "the Devil", as defined by Christian tradition. We do not seek power through the suffering of others, nor accept that personal benefit can be derived only by denial to another.

13. We believe that we should seek within Nature that which is contributory to our health and well-being.
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Wicca The Goddess

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Wicca The Horned One


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Pagans having Pagan Fun! ;)


Pagan Drumcircle - Convocation XIII

Pagan Nation visits Convocation XIII. This footage was taken during Saturday Night's Drum Circle


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Bide the Wiccan Law Ye Must



Bide ye Wiccan laws you must,
In perfect love and perfect trust
Live ye must and let to live,
Fairly take and fairly give

Tread the circle thrice about
To keep unwelcome spiritis out
To bind ye spell well every time,
Let the spell be spoke in rhyme

Light of eye and soft of touch,
Speak ye little, listen much
Honor the Old Ones in deed and name,
Let love and light be our guides again

Deosil go by the waxing moon,
Sing and dance ye Wiccan Rune
Widdershins go when the moon doth wane,
And the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane

When ye Lady's moon is new,
Kiss ye hand to her times two.
When ye moon rides at her peak,
Then ye heart's desire seek

Heed the north winds mighty gale,
Lock the door and trim the sail
When the wind blows from the East,
Expect the new and set the feast

When the wind comes from the South,
Love will kiss thee on the mouth
When the West wind blows over thee,
Departed souls will restless be

Nine woods 'neath the Cauldron go,
Burn them fast and burn them slow
Birch into the fire goes
To represent what the Lady knows

Oak in the forest towers with might,
In the fire it brings the God's insight
Rowan is a tree of power,
Causing life and magick to flower

Willows at the waterside stand,
Ready to help us to the Summerland
Hawthorn is burned to purify,
And to draw faerie to thine eye

Hazel, the tree of wisdom and learning
Adds its strength to the bright fire burning
White are the flowers of Apple tree
That brings us fruits of fertility

Grapes grow upon the vine,
Giving us both joy and wine
Fir does mark the evergreen
To represent immortality seen

Elder is the Lady's tree;
Harm it not or cursed ye'll be
Four times the Major Sabbats mark,
Both in the light and in the dark

As the old year starts to wane,
The new begins - it's now Samhain
When the times for Imbolc shows,
Watch for flowers through the snows

When the wheel begins to turn,
Seen ye Beltane fires will burn
As the wheel turns to Lammas night,
Power is brought to magick rite

Four times the Minor Sabbats fall;
Use the Sun to mark them all
When the wheel hath turned a Yule,
Light the log the Horned One rules

In the spring, when night equals day,
'Tis time for Ostara to come our way.
When the Sun has reached its height,
'Tis time for Oak and Holly to fight

Harvesting comes to one and all
When the Autumn Equinox does fall
Heed the flower, bush and tree,
By the Lady blessed ye'll be

Where the rippling waters go,
Cast a stone, the truth ye'll know
When ye have and hold a need,
Harken not to others greed.

With a fool no season spend,
Or be counted as his friend
Merry meet and merr part
Birght the cheeks and warm the heart

Whe misfortune is enow,
Wear the star upon thy brow
True in love ye must ever be;
Lest thy love be false to thee

Mind ye threefold law ye should,
Three times bad and three times good
What ye send forth comes back to ye,
So ever mind the rule of three

These eight words the wiccan rede fulfil;
An harm ye none, do what ye will
Follow this with mind and heart
And merry ye meet, and merry ye part
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Pages and pages. Reams of this wiccan drivel. You have everything under the Sun here BUT Jesus. Where is Jesus ? His conspicuous absence from all this baloney is MOST telling. You are exiled from Him aren't you. You cannot bear to have the son of God who died for you at your faery garden party. You have left out Him who is the one thing needful in this whole universe.


You are Judas's one and all and you will share his eternal dwelling in hell with him. Your spiritual adversion to JESUS is showing through the gossamer gowns. I see scales whee i should see skin...you christ-hating reptiles.



WHERE IS JESUS IN YOUR LITTLE FESTIVAL OF SPIRITUALITY ?



NOWHERE TO BE FOUND ? AND WHY IS THAT ? EH ?
BECAUSE DARKNESS CANNOT BEAR HIS LIGHT.





Where is Jesus,the King of Kings and Lord of Lords ? No room for him who died for your sins at this miserable pagan inn. no.


You don't need me to condemn you. THEREIN IS YOUR CONDEMNATION AND YOUR SHAME. YOUR SICK, DISEASED ADVERSION TO THE SON OF GOD. You worship no god but yourselves. It is evident.



But THERE is the most telling sin of the pagan world-the adversion to Jesus of Nazareth. The only other communities you share this satanic propensity with are the satanists and the devils. They are your de-facto brethren in your tacit adversion and,in fact,sneaky hatred of Christ Jesus and His Word and His people.






AGAIN I ASK YOU SPIRITUAL MISCREANTS: WHERE IS JESUS IN YOUR TWISTED,CONTRIVED "RELIGION" ?? I DARE you to describe His conspicuous absence in all your musings and ravings about magic,wicca and paganism. YOU KNOW YOUR BLASPHEMOUS HEARTS WILL STAND IN THE LIGHT OF DAY WHEN YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS AWAY.
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Hey, VH,

what happned to "judge not lest ye be judged"

...oh, thats right, you answer to a higher power;
your ego, and agenda.

how fucking typical.
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Pages and pages. Reams of this wiccan drivel. You have everything under the Sun here BUT Jesus. Where is Jesus ? His conspicuous absence from all this baloney is MOST telling. You are exiled from Him aren't you. You cannot bear to have the son of God who died for you at your faery garden party. You have left out Him who is the one thing needful in this whole universe.


You are Judas's one and all and you will share his eternal dwelling in hell with him. Your spiritual adversion to JESUS is showing through the gossamer gowns. I see scales whee i should see skin...you christ-hating reptiles.



WHERE IS JESUS IN YOUR LITTLE FESTIVAL OF SPIRITUALITY ?



NOWHERE TO BE FOUND ? AND WHY IS THAT ? EH ?
BECAUSE DARKNESS CANNOT BEAR HIS LIGHT.





Where is Jesus,the King of Kings and Lord of Lords ? No room for him who died for your sins at this miserable pagan inn. no.


You don't need me to condemn you. THEREIN IS YOUR CONDEMNATION AND YOUR SHAME. YOUR SICK, DISEASED ADVERSION TO THE SON OF GOD. You worship no god but yourselves. It is evident.



But THERE is the most telling sin of the pagan world-the adversion to Jesus of Nazareth. The only other communities you share this satanic propensity with are the satanists and the devils. They are your de-facto brethren in your tacit adversion and,in fact,sneaky hatred of Christ Jesus and His Word and His people.






AGAIN I ASK YOU SPIRITUAL MISCREANTS: WHERE IS JESUS IN YOUR TWISTED,CONTRIVED "RELIGION" ?? I DARE you to describe His conspicuous absence in all your musings and ravings about magic,wicca and paganism. YOU KNOW YOUR BLASPHEMOUS HEARTS WILL STAND IN THE LIGHT OF DAY WHEN YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS AWAY.
 Quoting: VAN HELSING 394628


I will tell you this Helsing, I will stand...not on bended knee as you.

I will stsnd to my maker, and look eye to eye. Because I feel that is what is expected. s any father to his son...be strong, be of stout heart!

You however, will have to answer for your ego, and stone throwing.

I am ready..are you?
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276562- I am completely overwhelmed with admiration of your eloquence,wisdom and erudition. And what a way with words !





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