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QAnon: It's on, don't panic ii

 
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and many others knew! What did President Obama know? I am inviting DNI Grenell to testify next week in the Senate

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So the Open Memorandum to Barack Obama from Sidney Powell was real. It disappeared after it was released, but now it is back:

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Open Memorandum to Barack Obama
by Sidney Powell May 13, 2020 in Media
OPEN MEMORANDUM
To: Barack Hussein Obama
From: Sidney Powell
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Date: May 13, 2020

Re: Your Failure to Find Precedent for Flynn Dismissal

Regarding the decision of the Department of Justice to dismiss charges against General Flynn, in your recent call with your alumni, you expressed great concern: “there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk.”

Here is some help—if truth and precedent represent your true concern. Your statement is entirely false. However, it does explain the damage to the Rule of Law throughout your administration.

First, General Flynn was not charged with perjury—which requires a material false statement made under oath with intent to deceive.1 A perjury prosecution would have been appropriate and the Rule of Law applied if the Justice Department prosecuted your former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe for his multiple lies under oath in an investigation of a leak only he knew he caused.

McCabe lied under oath in fully recorded and transcribed interviews with the Inspector General for the DOJ. He was informed of the purpose of the interview, and he had had the benefit of counsel. He knew he was the leaker. McCabe even lied about lying. He lied to his own agents—which sent them on a “wild-goose-chase”—thereby making his lies “material” and an obstruction of justice. Yet, remarkably, Attorney General Barr declined to prosecute McCabe for these offenses.

Applying the Rule of Law, after declining McCabe’s perjury prosecution, required the Justice Department to dismiss the prosecution of General Flynn who was not warned, not under oath, had no counsel, and whose statements were not only not recorded, but were created as false by FBI agents who falsified the 302.

Second, it would seem your “wingman” Eric Holder is missing a step these days at Covington & Burling LLP. Indelibly marked in his memory (and one might think, yours) should be his Motion to Dismiss the multi-count jury verdict of guilty and the entire case against former United States Senator Ted Stevens. Within weeks of Mr. Holder becoming Attorney General, he moved to dismiss the Stevens prosecution in the interest of justice for the same reasons the Justice Department did against General Flynn—egregious misconduct by prosecutors who hid exculpatory evidence and concocted purported crimes.

As horrifying as the facts of the Stevens case were, they pale in comparison to the targeted setup, framing, and prosecution of a newly elected President’s National Security Advisor and the shocking facts that surround it. This case was an assault on the heart of liberty— our cherished system of self-government, the right of citizens to choose their President, and the hallowed peaceful transition of power.

Third, the inability of anyone in your alumni association to find “anybody who has been charged [with anything] just getting off scot-free” would be laughable were it not so pathetic.

Many of your alum feature prominently in the non-fiction legal thriller published in 2014: Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice. A national best- seller, it focusses on the egregious prosecutorial misconduct of your longest serving White House Counsel, Kathryn Ruemmler; your counter-terrorism advisor Lisa Monaco; Loretta Lynch’s DAG for the Criminal Division Leslie Caldwell; and Mueller protégé Andrew Weissmann. While they worked as federal prosecutors on the Enron Task Force—under the purported supervision of Christopher Wray—they destroyed Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs; sent four Merrill Lynch executives to prison on an indictment that criminalized an innocent business transaction while they hid the evidence that showed those defendants were innocent for six years. Both cases were reversed on appeal for their over-criminalization and misconduct. Indeed, Andersen was reversed by a unanimous Supreme Court.

Fourth, even if your many alumni don’t remember multiple cases that had to be reversed or dismissed for their own misconduct, Judge Emmet Sullivan should remember dismissing the corrupted case against Ted Stevens. Judge Sullivan is the judicial hero of Licensed to Lie. It is that case that caused Judge Sullivan to enter the strong Brady order the Mueller and D.C. career prosecutors violated repeatedly in the Flynn prosecution.

Fifth, there is precedent for guilty pleas being vacated. Your alumni Weissmann and Ruemmler are no strangers to such reversals. At least two guilty pleas they coerced by threats against defendants in Houston had to be thrown out—again for reasons like those here. The defendants “got off scot-free” because—like General Flynn—your alumni had concocted the charges and terrorized the defendants into pleading guilty to “offenses” that were not crimes. Andersen partner David Duncan even testified for the government against Andersen in its trial, but his plea had to be vacated. Enron Broadband defendant Christopher Calger had his plea vacated. There are many others across the country.

Sixth, should further edification be necessary, see Why Innocent People Plead Guilty, written in 2014 by federal Judge Jed Rakoff (a Clinton appointee). Abusive prosecutors force innocent people to plead guilty with painful frequency. The Mueller special counsel operation led by Andrew Weissmann and Weissmann “wannabes” specializes in prosecutorial terrorist tactics repulsive to everything “justice” is supposed to mean. These tactics are designed to intimidate their targets into pleading guilty—while punishing them and their families with the process itself and financial ruin.

Most important, General Flynn was honest with the FBI agents. They knew he was—and briefed that to McCabe and others three different times. At McCabe’s directions, Agent Strzok and McCabe’s “Special Counsel” Lisa Page, altered the 302 to create statements Weissmann, Mueller, Van Grack, and Zainab Ahmad could assert were false. Only the FBI agents lied—and falsified documents. The crimes are theirs alone.

Seventh, the D.C. circuit in which you reside vacated a Section 1001 case for a legal failure much less egregious than those in General Flynn’s case. United States v. Safavian, 528 F.3d 957 (D.C. Cir. 2008). Safavian sought advice from his agency’s ethics board and did not give them all the relevant info. The jury convicted him on the theory it was a 1001 violation to conceal the information from the government ethics board. The court disagreed: “As Safavian argues and as the government agrees, there must be a legal duty to disclose in order for there to be a concealment offense in violation of § 1001(a)(1), yet the government failed to identify a legal disclosure duty except by reference to vague standards of conduct for government employees.” General Flynn did not even know he was the subject of an investigation—and in truth, he was not. The only crimes here were by your alumni in the FBI, White House, intelligence community, and Justice Department.

These are just a few obvious and well-known examples to those paying any attention to criminal justice issues.

Finally, the “leaked” comments from your alumni call further evinces your obsession with destroying a distinguished veteran of the United States Army who has defended the Constitution and this country “from all enemies, foreign and domestic,” with the highest honor for thirty-three years. He and many others will continue to do so.

1As a “constitutional lawyer,” surely you recall that perjury (or false statements) also requires intent to deceive. In Bronston v. United States, 409 U.S. 352 (1973), the Supreme Court reversed a conviction of perjury. In Bronston, the defendant’s answer was a truthful statement, but not directly responsive to the question and ultimately misled federal authorities. The Court determined: “A jury should not be permitted to engage in conjecture whether an unresponsive answer, true and complete on its face, was intended to mislead or divert the examiner; the state of mind of the witness is relevant only to the extent that it bears on whether “he does not believe [his answer] to be true.” To hold otherwise would be to inject a new and confusing element into the adversary testimonial system we know.” Id. at 359. The FBI agents who interviewed General Flynn specifically noted that his answers were true or he believed his answers to be true—completely defeating criminal intent. Furthermore, General Flynn knew and remarked they had transcripts of his conversations.

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Grassley/Johnson release complete list of those who were involved in unmaskin Flynn, according to the DNI: [link to hsgac.senate.gov (secure)]
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BREAKING BOMBSHELL:

Rand Paul: "Vice President Biden & more than a dozen Obama administration officials requested & received the power to unmask Flynn."

"Unmasking involves revealing the identity of an American's private phone conversations without a constitutional warrant."
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The most active “unmasking” requests appear to be NSA intelligence reports for Dec 14, 2016

The day after, Dec 15, 2016, James Clapper signed new procedures relaxing the rules allowing the wider distribution of raw NSA intelligence to agencies: Thinking face
Raw 12333 surveillance sharing guidelines
Source document contributed to DocumentCloud by Charles Savage (The New York Times).

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Barack and Joe: What did you know and when did you know it? .
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Declassified documents reveal V.P. Biden ordered the unmasking of General Flynn’s private conversation.
Anyone think that Biden might have abused his power to go after a political opponent...
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Believe it or Not: Since Its Birth The USA Has Only Had 17 Years of Peace. #Q17 #QAnon17
Believe it or Not: Since Its Birth The USA Has Only Had 17 Years of Peace
Since the birth of the USA on July 4, 1776 with the Declaration of Independence, the country has been at war for 93% of its existence. It all started

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Xochtl hinojosa is on with bill hemmer and all she's shouting is that theis is a cover up by donald trump and people should want a new president and a new doj.

Does this woman not know what just came out?

Hemmer asked her why biden would want to unmask flynn and she said to get more information.

Honestly, the woman is so unhinged that it seems she doensn't know what to say she seems panicked.
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Xochtl hinojosa is on with bill hemmer and all she's shouting is that theis is a cover up by donald trump and people should want a new president and a new doj.

Does this woman not know what just came out?

Hemmer asked her why biden would want to unmask flynn and she said to get more information.

Honestly, the woman is so unhinged that it seems she doensn't know what to say she seems panicked.
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They don't care. They just think so long as they repeat and shot their lies then people will believe them, regardless of reality. Sadly way too many liberals still do because they are that out of touch.
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The feds need to look into why these Govs sent sick patients to nursing homes accompanied with body bags. They knew the death sentence they were handing out to our most vulnerable.
An NYC nursing home forced to take coronavirus patients was also sent a supply of body bags for...
The unnamed facility in Queens was coronavirus free before they were forced to take patients. Now 30 people have died at the facility.

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If this is true, it's beyond horrendous and todya cumo was busy saying that what happened in the nursing homes was a terrible thing. Forgot to add, he caused it with his order.
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Xochtl hinojosa is on with bill hemmer and all she's shouting is that theis is a cover up by donald trump and people should want a new president and a new doj. Does this woman not know what just came out? Hemmer asked her why biden would want to unmask flynn and she said to get more information. Honestly, the woman is so unhinged that it seems she doensn't know what to say she seems panicked.
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They don't care. They just think so long as they repeat and shot their lies then people will believe them, regardless of reality. Sadly way too many liberals still do because they are that out of touch.
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Had a conversation with a lib today. If it wasn't early morning I'd have had a drink and I don't drink. I asked them can't they see how unconstitutional this was, how criminal this was, how wrong this was and how it should never ever happen to another president?

Their response to me was bone chilling. They said "well maybe if this had happened to a politician it might be different but it happened to trump and everyone hates trump. And said they, we don't know what is in their hearts and why they did it, probably to protect the country from a non politician. And then they said that America hasn't been a country that has always stayed within the lines and it's ok if it is for the good of the country".

After that conversation I literally cried. These millenials have no sense of the constitution or of our history. Getting them onboard is going to be much harder than we think because first, first we have to get them to actually listen to why most of us are upset and horrified and if they intend to be willfully blind, deaf and dumb it's not going to be easy. That dnc girl on hemmer just now behaved exactly like the millenial I had the conversation with.
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Xochtl hinojosa is on with bill hemmer and all she's shouting is that theis is a cover up by donald trump and people should want a new president and a new doj. Does this woman not know what just came out? Hemmer asked her why biden would want to unmask flynn and she said to get more information. Honestly, the woman is so unhinged that it seems she doensn't know what to say she seems panicked.
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They don't care. They just think so long as they repeat and shot their lies then people will believe them, regardless of reality. Sadly way too many liberals still do because they are that out of touch.
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Had a conversation with a lib today. If it wasn't early morning I'd have had a drink and I don't drink. I asked them can't they see how unconstitutional this was, how criminal this was, how wrong this was and how it should never ever happen to another president?

Their response to me was bone chilling. They said "well maybe if this had happened to a politician it might be different but it happened to trump and everyone hates trump. And said they, we don't know what is in their hearts and why they did it, probably to protect the country from a non politician. And then they said that America hasn't been a country that has always stayed within the lines and it's ok if it is for the good of the country".

After that conversation I literally cried. These millenials have no sense of the constitution or of our history. Getting them onboard is going to be much harder than we think because first, first we have to get them to actually listen to why most of us are upset and horrified and if they intend to be willfully blind, deaf and dumb it's not going to be easy. That dnc girl on hemmer just now behaved exactly like the millenial I had the conversation with.
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Well, Q did say there would be a percentage that were so far gone there was no coming back for them. That is truly sad.

There's nothing wrong at all in admitting you were wrong or you were duped by someone. It makes you the better person to do so and you learn from that experience.
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Excellent find, Anon.
[They] thought it meant Dec [5] _State Funeral.
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Excellent find, Anon.
[They] thought it meant Dec [5] _State Funeral.
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A lot more coming [soon].
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21st Space Wing Commander Found Dead In His Home

By Ben Warwick May 13, 2020 at 12:17 pm

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (CBS4) – The commander of the 21st Space Wing, headquartered at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, has died. Colonel Thomas G. Falzarano was found at his home on Tuesday.

Col. Falzarano appears to have died of natural causes, though a thorough investigation is happening. There are no indications that there was a positive COVID-19 case.

“We are deeply saddened by this tragic loss for our Air and Space Force family,” Gen. Jay Raymond, Chief of Space Operations, said in a news release. “Tom was an incredible leader, mentor and friend who will be remembered for his warm personality and dedicated service to our nation. Our heartfelt condolences and prayers go out to his family, friends and all members of the 21st Space Wing.”

“We were shocked to learn of the death of Colonel Falzarano,” Colorado Springs Mayor John Suthers said. “Since he assumed command at Peterson, he was a great partner in working with the city on a variety of matters. As an example, he organized the rest of the area base commanders to work with the city on Coronavirus issues. This is a tremendous loss for our community and our hearts go out to his family.”

Col. Falzarano took command of the 21st Space Wing in July 2019. He was poised to be one of the top officers in the new United States Space Force.

Colonel Sam Johnson will now assume command.

Col. Falzarano was a 1994 graduate of the United States Air Force Academy. He had served at the U.S. Embassy in Iraq and on the Joint Staff at the Pentagon. Before his posting at Peterson Air Force Base, he was the executive officer to the Commander, Air Force Space Command and the Joint force Space Component Command. He commanded Peterson Air Force Base and Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station, and supported four other Air Force installations around North America and Greenland.

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I am told...Flynn is the tip of the iceberg...this gets worse. "Adam you are looking at the foyer of a house that is a 20 bedroom mansion"

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Rand Paul Announces He Will Invite Ric Grenell to Testify at Senate Hearing on Flynn Unmasking Next Week

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) announced Wednesday he will invite acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell to testify before a Senate hearing next week on the newly declassified list of Obama officials who requested the unmasking of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn (U.S. Army ret.) in late 2016 and early 2017 when Flynn as acting as President-Elect Donald Trump’s national security advisor. The list includes the highest levels of the administration including Obama Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and Vice President Joe Biden.

“Yesterday I wrote to DNI @RichardGrenell requesting the names of those who were involved in Gen Flynn’s unmasking. Today I received the shocking reply that @JoeBiden and many others knew! What did President Obama know? I am inviting DNI Grenell to testify next week in the Senate”

“The Senate must immediately hold hearings on this! Clapper, Comey, Brennan and even Biden owe it to the American people. They should testify under oath. What did the former president know?”
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Xochtl hinojosa is on with bill hemmer and all she's shouting is that theis is a cover up by donald trump and people should want a new president and a new doj. Does this woman not know what just came out? Hemmer asked her why biden would want to unmask flynn and she said to get more information. Honestly, the woman is so unhinged that it seems she doensn't know what to say she seems panicked.
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They don't care. They just think so long as they repeat and shot their lies then people will believe them, regardless of reality. Sadly way too many liberals still do because they are that out of touch.
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Had a conversation with a lib today. If it wasn't early morning I'd have had a drink and I don't drink. I asked them can't they see how unconstitutional this was, how criminal this was, how wrong this was and how it should never ever happen to another president?

Their response to me was bone chilling. They said "well maybe if this had happened to a politician it might be different but it happened to trump and everyone hates trump. And said they, we don't know what is in their hearts and why they did it, probably to protect the country from a non politician. And then they said that America hasn't been a country that has always stayed within the lines and it's ok if it is for the good of the country".

After that conversation I literally cried. These millenials have no sense of the constitution or of our history. Getting them onboard is going to be much harder than we think because first, first we have to get them to actually listen to why most of us are upset and horrified and if they intend to be willfully blind, deaf and dumb it's not going to be easy. That dnc girl on hemmer just now behaved exactly like the millenial I had the conversation with.
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I've been saying this the whole time. My wife and most of her family are very lib/Dem, and it's painful to hear the mental gymnastics they go through to demonize Trump while exonerating the Dems.

These people are so brainwashed by the MSM that they won't just "wake up" one day and see through the lies and deception. I hold out hope for my wife to come around eventually, but I ain't betting on it. Her and roughly 40 percent of our country are the proverbial "can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink".

Denial is a very easy yet powerful human emotion, and extremely hard to break through.

I'll give my wife credit though, she (at least what she told me) voted 3rd party instead of Hillary in 2016. So maybe there's hope for her.

I feel like this whole situation mirrors the late 1930's in the US. Half the people knew that we needed to get involved in WWII. They knew Hitler wasn't going to stop, they knew he had plans to take over the US once he consolidated the UK and at least part of Russia.

The other half was deathly opposed to joining the war in any way.

Those were the libs/Dems.
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The deepstate was sloppy as we are seeing through declassifing because they all thought Hillary would win and they would never be investigated. Mueller was used to cover up most of it. But even then we have a paper trial of there coup/spying

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There have been a lot of tweets like this one, people realizing that maybe mueller's mission wasn't so noble for our twenty to thirty million paycheck. It seems a lot of new eyes are the ones coming to this realization.
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I just told someone that I will never forget the look on nunes' face and how pale he got as he practically ran to the white house....and we are being told all over the place that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Xochtl hinojosa is on with bill hemmer and all she's shouting is that theis is a cover up by donald trump and people should want a new president and a new doj. Does this woman not know what just came out? Hemmer asked her why biden would want to unmask flynn and she said to get more information. Honestly, the woman is so unhinged that it seems she doensn't know what to say she seems panicked.
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They don't care. They just think so long as they repeat and shot their lies then people will believe them, regardless of reality. Sadly way too many liberals still do because they are that out of touch.
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Had a conversation with a lib today. If it wasn't early morning I'd have had a drink and I don't drink. I asked them can't they see how unconstitutional this was, how criminal this was, how wrong this was and how it should never ever happen to another president?

Their response to me was bone chilling. They said "well maybe if this had happened to a politician it might be different but it happened to trump and everyone hates trump. And said they, we don't know what is in their hearts and why they did it, probably to protect the country from a non politician. And then they said that America hasn't been a country that has always stayed within the lines and it's ok if it is for the good of the country".

After that conversation I literally cried. These millenials have no sense of the constitution or of our history. Getting them onboard is going to be much harder than we think because first, first we have to get them to actually listen to why most of us are upset and horrified and if they intend to be willfully blind, deaf and dumb it's not going to be easy. That dnc girl on hemmer just now behaved exactly like the millenial I had the conversation with.
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I've been saying this the whole time. My wife and most of her family are very lib/Dem, and it's painful to hear the mental gymnastics they go through to demonize Trump while exonerating the Dems.

These people are so brainwashed by the MSM that they won't just "wake up" one day and see through the lies and deception. I hold out hope for my wife to come around eventually, but I ain't betting on it. Her and roughly 40 percent of our country are the proverbial "can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink".

Denial is a very easy yet powerful human emotion, and extremely hard to break through.

I'll give my wife credit though, she (at least what she told me) voted 3rd party instead of Hillary in 2016. So maybe there's hope for her.

I feel like this whole situation mirrors the late 1930's in the US. Half the people knew that we needed to get involved in WWII. They knew Hitler wasn't going to stop, they knew he had plans to take over the US once he consolidated the UK and at least part of Russia.

The other half was deathly opposed to joining the war in any way.

Those were the libs/Dems.
 Quoting: Philly Special


they have all been ds/ banker wars go find an old book called trading with the enemy. it will make you puke.





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