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| hankie
Everything User ID: 80628258 United States08/22/2021 09:25 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: hankie What if there is a parasite than makes viruses or what appears to be virus and forms cancers the body tries to fight off. I think there is something said about why cancers grow and they have to be depraved of their home with a some type of body environment, something about sweets being bad acidic or something. Cancer are the bodies way if trying to protect something, can't remember exactly why, though. It used to be thought that cancer was caused by a virus, if a parasite medicine works to cure cancer, then maybe there is something that they missed about or didn't look or did see and thought it wasn't part of the problem? Just a thought, it could make perfect, if one of these drugs can cure a cold or flu. Can you imagine a simple drug for de-worming or getting rid of parasites could cure a common cold, which is in coronavirus family? One pill, cures them all, they would hide it for sure. The last time I heard of a cure was about it from the 1930s, which was developed from an old Native American treatment, a Canadian Nurse work on it until she could give it in a shot to patients who volunteered to try it on their cancers, the one guy had throat cancer and she thought she had killed him, reaction or something it seemed, his tongue did something, it turned out to be his cure and others too. She brought it to the US to show other doctors she just wanted to cure patients with cancer, one person high up had a daughter that had cancer so he got her to try it on his daughter it cured her, so he said he would help her, he and others put a stop to her putting it out for the public. It was the most disgusting thing I had ever read after she cured his daughter. Hankie- Vitamin C ( high dose, IV) kills cancer. It's hidden, D3 is also helpful too. My sis was diagnosed with breast cancer at 48. We have the BCRA gene, so she had a predisposition to it. However, she is a heavy drinker ( wine) and I am convinced that it caused her diagnosis. It was believed before the modern pharma culture that a virus causes cancer, there is evidence, they can give you cancer with shots, Rockefeller did this to war vets after WW2, he was somehow involved with Veterans hospital, they did the cancer experiment on the wounded veterans in some hospitals, his words' cancer is good a way to die as anything else. They use it as a weapon. While studying some information, a NIH virologist ran into the virus that cause Childhood Leukemia, what do all children except the ones who never get them have in common? I am not even going there. If you stop the cause, it would work much better. The cure most likely works on the same principal as vitamin C, I do know this wild plants that the nurse used were eaten by Native America mostly as greens which a lot has very high C vitamin and other minerals. I believe there are many simple ways to cure cancer, it better to keep it from happening in the first place. Hankie You are correct- most cancers are viral in nature. In fact, I'd go as far to say most illnesses are. Well, I know virology uses animal studies and in those Viral studies they give diseases to the animals and in those diseases CANCER is given to these animals. They were doing this at the time JFK was assassinated or right before that time, they had developed a fast moving cancer. How could they do this without knowing beforehand what they were creating. They gave the cancers to animals, you have to know what causes the cancers they give them to do it in the first place. What really were they plan, cancer is still going on and worse over the years with all those funds going to Cancer foundation, who runs that cancer foundation and what is really their bio. They will not get funds if they cure Cancer and so they treat it, they have not cured it. They can give it also and not cure it. Now, for me, if I wanted to see if something is giving cancer along the way that spread over time, I would compare the vaccine given to children and others through flu and more to adults in the years going back to and a bit before WW2. Last Edited by hankie on 08/22/2021 09:28 PM Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 09:27 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: tahoe21 The only answer I have for you is the Q narrative that you need to show people - not just tell them. Slowly people are waking up to the fact that the DS US and other NWO institutions can not be trusted. Take for example that our FDA just put out that PSA against Ivermectin, or Fauci pushing the booster only to backtrack as far as the dangers of the timing. The sheep are beginning to question the authority of the shepherd. I think this is important. I agree that it is important for the folks to wake up and for the majority of people, they are going to have to experience some pretty bad stuff to wake up. It just seems like we are cutting too close, if the fda goes ahead and approves even just one of these vaccines, meanwhile there have been mandates put in place on the federal and state level already w/o fda approval (not that I think this means anything anyway, they are corrupt too), then what is coming around the corner with approval? Trump currently has no official power, quite a bit of his base is currently waiting on Q and the team to save the day. And right on que, we have a guy flashing 17 at the rally reminding us, it is all under control, they have everything and these people are stupid. I can not help but wonder who he is talking about... God help us. I'd rather die as a patriot under the notion that Q is a psyop to root us out and eliminate us rather than live with a boot on my neck! I can totally relate to that, I have a thread about Parallel Structures on this forum which I have always thought as a solution. I have even brought it up in this thread, I have gone by the name Soloma here, I think we should be taking back control of our government by creating a new one, a parallel government. I can not see how you fix a fatally flawed system from within that same system. Unfortunately it seems as much as I think this forum is a good place to discuss and potentially start something like this, the typical response indicates otherwise. I have heard things like representative republic good, we have not had a chance to see it work properly because it has been corrupted for so long, all we need is the constitution which is perfect, etc. Oh, apathy too, lots of apathy. It seems to me like most do not want to take responsibility for fixing this mess even if we contributed to us getting here in the first place. Yes, I can relate about dieing a patriot. I imagine at some point if I am able to help more people understand what Havel call's Parallel Structures and what Alva L. Kistleman wrote in Hello Stupid is perhaps our best way of taking back our power, I will most likely end up dieing for the idea(l). The fascists wont much care for a alternative way of governing being created that will pretty much marginalize their power. This forum (or thread in particular) is not about starting an alternative or parallel form of government. It is the exact opposite LOL. It is part distraction, part entertainment, and 100% informational collaborative research to expose the corruption and hopefully red pill others. Q was and still is the starting point. No one here is advocating for anarchy or government overthrow or open revolt. Again, on the contrary, we are trying to avoid such, but find our society spiraling toward a limited set of alternatives which begs the question 'What Next?'. You do seem to be having a good time provoking the revolutionary thought process though - kinda like the dancing banana dude but perhaps less caustic and better written. |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "More than thirty years ago, Havel complained, “I cannot avoid the impression that many people in the West still understand little of what is actually at stake in our time.” For many people in the United States today, a lying Twitter bully with access to nuclear bombs has finally highlighted the stakes. As the main political parties lie in disarray, the dissident, who takes upon her own conscience the burden of political responsibility and action, rather than placing it upon professional politicians, has suddenly become a figure of immense consequence in America. The spontaneous and vigorous opposition to Trump, whether at the women’s marches the day after his Inauguration or at the protests at U.S. airports in support of a viciously demonized people, has already manifested many of the qualities that Havel wished to see in civil society: trust, openness, responsibility, solidarity, and love. Many more people realize, as Havel did, that arbitrary and inhuman power cannot deprive them of the inner freedom to make moral choices, and to make human community meaningful. They are shaping a redemptive politics of dissidence in the free world, nearly three decades after the fall of Communism. To measure the American dissidents’ success in electoral or any other quantifiable terms would be beside the point. For they are creating a “parallel polis”: the vital space where many, over the next four years, will find refuge from our age of anger, and learn to live in truth." [link to www.vhlf.org (secure)] Sounds like Havel is a Trump hating idealist. Maybe he would support the media representation of Antifa for their dissidence... |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Anti Trump rhetoric with a little CRT thrown in... "Above all, it is whiteness, the “world’s most dangerous cult today,” that has replaced other forms of fundamentalism in the West, according to Mishra (BF 59). Racism, he insists, is more than just an “ugly prejudice.” It is a “widely legitimated way of ordering social and economic life” that “attempts to solve, through exclusion and degradation, the problems of establishing political order and pacifying the disaffected, in societies roiled by rapid social and economic change” (49-50). From Woodrow Wilson’s commitment to “preserve ‘white civilisation and its domination of the planet’” in 1917 (46) to Donald Trump’s more recent wielding of “racial degradation” as a tool to create “solidarity among property-owning white men” (139), American history demonstrates that W.E.B. Du Bois, whom Mishra cites regularly in these essays, was entirely correct. If white supremacy is the lifeblood which runs through the veins of both imperialism and capitalism, then the domination of the Earth “for ever and ever,” (53), or absolute property ownership, is the pulsing heart of white supremacy itself (53)." [link to nycbigcitylit.com (secure)] Apparently liberal so called critics love this guy. He may have some good points about humility and enlightenment, but it seems to come from a one-sided argument. |
| Questioning369
User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Questioning369 I agree that it is important for the folks to wake up and for the majority of people, they are going to have to experience some pretty bad stuff to wake up. It just seems like we are cutting too close, if the fda goes ahead and approves even just one of these vaccines, meanwhile there have been mandates put in place on the federal and state level already w/o fda approval (not that I think this means anything anyway, they are corrupt too), then what is coming around the corner with approval? Trump currently has no official power, quite a bit of his base is currently waiting on Q and the team to save the day. And right on que, we have a guy flashing 17 at the rally reminding us, it is all under control, they have everything and these people are stupid. I can not help but wonder who he is talking about... God help us. I'd rather die as a patriot under the notion that Q is a psyop to root us out and eliminate us rather than live with a boot on my neck! I can totally relate to that, I have a thread about Parallel Structures on this forum which I have always thought as a solution. I have even brought it up in this thread, I have gone by the name Soloma here, I think we should be taking back control of our government by creating a new one, a parallel government. I can not see how you fix a fatally flawed system from within that same system. Unfortunately it seems as much as I think this forum is a good place to discuss and potentially start something like this, the typical response indicates otherwise. I have heard things like representative republic good, we have not had a chance to see it work properly because it has been corrupted for so long, all we need is the constitution which is perfect, etc. Oh, apathy too, lots of apathy. It seems to me like most do not want to take responsibility for fixing this mess even if we contributed to us getting here in the first place. Yes, I can relate about dieing a patriot. I imagine at some point if I am able to help more people understand what Havel call's Parallel Structures and what Alva L. Kistleman wrote in Hello Stupid is perhaps our best way of taking back our power, I will most likely end up dieing for the idea(l). The fascists wont much care for a alternative way of governing being created that will pretty much marginalize their power. This forum (or thread in particular) is not about starting an alternative or parallel form of government. It is the exact opposite LOL. It is part distraction, part entertainment, and 100% informational collaborative research to expose the corruption and hopefully red pill others. Q was and still is the starting point. No one here is advocating for anarchy or government overthrow or open revolt. Again, on the contrary, we are trying to avoid such, but find our society spiraling toward a limited set of alternatives which begs the question 'What Next?'. You do seem to be having a good time provoking the revolutionary thought process though - kinda like the dancing banana dude but perhaps less caustic and better written. Interesting, here I thought Q was all about over-throwing the deep state and that those here supported that. I would venture to say we are all in agreement that those who are considered the politicians charged to lead our country currently residing in positions of power are not really the one's who hold the power, yes? I would also suggest that Q's purpose is to root out those who actually wield power un-wisely, both those who are visible and those who are not, would you agree? If you do, and you are a supporter of Q, are you not contributing to a form of revolution yourself? I have seen clamoring here for Nesara/Gesara, which from my ignorant perspective seems to be a new financial system being touted by the 'white hats'. This idea is perpetuated here, is it not? Could this idea be considered revolutionary, after all I am sure a Rothschild is credited with saying something to the extent, and I am paraphrasing here, 'I care not who makes the laws, what matters is who controls the money'. If you support Q and Q is supporting a new form of financial 'freedoms', would this too have to be considered revolutionary? I guess I am asking, why is it ok for you to push revolutionary idea(l)s here and it is not ok for me? I am simply advocating that people who are reading this thread and following Q take the next logical step and do something more. I feel that the next logical step in doing something more is possibly found in Havel's and Kitselman's Parallel Structures. If we do not seize this opportunity now, we may possibly forever be subjected to the rule of others. From my perspective, that does not seem very desirable, all I have to do is look around to realize I do not want more of the same for myself or future generations. The reality is, GLP, this thread and the Q movement are all forms of parallel structures. Few of us see it though and even fewer want to take it to the next level. I will ask you Tahoe a question I have asked many people since I read Kitselman's Hello Stupid over ten years ago. With the advent of the internet, why do I need a representative? Questioning369 |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CIA regime replacement at it's finest from Wiki The alternative culture, or underground, was described in Parallel Polis in 1978 for the first time.[1] A political scientist, Benda noticed the emergence of a new social structure in artistic and intellectual circles as a tool to escape the totalitarian communist regime and detected the following pillars of the new "field": Constant monitoring and verification of civic rights and freedoms, which the state tends to restrict. Parallel Polis consists of people who actively advocate for (and protect) their rights. "Alternative" (underground) culture is independent, and consists of art which is developed without the permission—or support—of public authorities. Parallel education and science, representing the right to free education and the development of scientific research (residential seminars and educational societies and academies) A parallel information system as an expression of the right to the free dissemination of information (such as samizdat publishing and unofficial magazines and collections) Parallel economy: "Political power considers this area as a critical resource for arbitrary control of citizens and strictly regulates it at the same time".[citation needed] The economy of dissent was based on reciprocity and trust in the individual. It was the germ of a principle and the search for resources which are not dependent on the control of monetary tools. Creation of parallel political structures and the promotion of their development. The alternative political structures must be incubated in the Parallel Polis and develop into a form which can replace the ruling authoritarian regime. Parallel foreign policy must be an instrument of the parallel society for the international stabilization and grounding of the movement and the search for financial and mental resources. |
| Questioning369
User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "More than thirty years ago, Havel complained, “I cannot avoid the impression that many people in the West still understand little of what is actually at stake in our time.” For many people in the United States today, a lying Twitter bully with access to nuclear bombs has finally highlighted the stakes. As the main political parties lie in disarray, the dissident, who takes upon her own conscience the burden of political responsibility and action, rather than placing it upon professional politicians, has suddenly become a figure of immense consequence in America. Quoting: tahoe21 The spontaneous and vigorous opposition to Trump, whether at the women’s marches the day after his Inauguration or at the protests at U.S. airports in support of a viciously demonized people, has already manifested many of the qualities that Havel wished to see in civil society: trust, openness, responsibility, solidarity, and love. Many more people realize, as Havel did, that arbitrary and inhuman power cannot deprive them of the inner freedom to make moral choices, and to make human community meaningful. They are shaping a redemptive politics of dissidence in the free world, nearly three decades after the fall of Communism. To measure the American dissidents’ success in electoral or any other quantifiable terms would be beside the point. For they are creating a “parallel polis”: the vital space where many, over the next four years, will find refuge from our age of anger, and learn to live in truth." [link to www.vhlf.org (secure)] Sounds like Havel is a Trump hating idealist. Maybe he would support the media representation of Antifa for their dissidence... I am not really interested in the messenger, more so the message. My first introduction to parallel structures came ovr 10 years ago via reading Hello Stupid. I can not say or really do not care whether Havel would hate Trump or not, pretty sure he is dead. I would ask you, were the founding fathers not idealists too? Did they not suggest that when the government no longer represented the will of the people, that it was our responsibility to change or replace it (loosely paraphrased)? I simply feel that it is folly to expect to fix a broken system (govt's pf the world) from within the same broken system. It also appears to me that the Q movement is also about changing the current status quo. What I am suggesting is something that would run parallel to Q and whatever else comes of the current day situation such as protests or even what appears to be the inevitable physical rebellion. Questioning369 |
| Questioning369
User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Anti Trump rhetoric with a little CRT thrown in... Quoting: tahoe21 "Above all, it is whiteness, the “world’s most dangerous cult today,” that has replaced other forms of fundamentalism in the West, according to Mishra (BF 59). Racism, he insists, is more than just an “ugly prejudice.” It is a “widely legitimated way of ordering social and economic life” that “attempts to solve, through exclusion and degradation, the problems of establishing political order and pacifying the disaffected, in societies roiled by rapid social and economic change” (49-50). From Woodrow Wilson’s commitment to “preserve ‘white civilisation and its domination of the planet’” in 1917 (46) to Donald Trump’s more recent wielding of “racial degradation” as a tool to create “solidarity among property-owning white men” (139), American history demonstrates that W.E.B. Du Bois, whom Mishra cites regularly in these essays, was entirely correct. If white supremacy is the lifeblood which runs through the veins of both imperialism and capitalism, then the domination of the Earth “for ever and ever,” (53), or absolute property ownership, is the pulsing heart of white supremacy itself (53)." [link to nycbigcitylit.com (secure)] Apparently liberal so called critics love this guy. He may have some good points about humility and enlightenment, but it seems to come from a one-sided argument. Seriously, you are attacking Havel, isnt this something the liberals do? Forget about Havel, lets talk about the about the simple message of Parallel Structures as they can be whatever we desire to make them. Questioning369 |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: tahoe21 I'd rather die as a patriot under the notion that Q is a psyop to root us out and eliminate us rather than live with a boot on my neck! I can totally relate to that, I have a thread about Parallel Structures on this forum which I have always thought as a solution. I have even brought it up in this thread, I have gone by the name Soloma here, I think we should be taking back control of our government by creating a new one, a parallel government. I can not see how you fix a fatally flawed system from within that same system. Unfortunately it seems as much as I think this forum is a good place to discuss and potentially start something like this, the typical response indicates otherwise. I have heard things like representative republic good, we have not had a chance to see it work properly because it has been corrupted for so long, all we need is the constitution which is perfect, etc. Oh, apathy too, lots of apathy. It seems to me like most do not want to take responsibility for fixing this mess even if we contributed to us getting here in the first place. Yes, I can relate about dieing a patriot. I imagine at some point if I am able to help more people understand what Havel call's Parallel Structures and what Alva L. Kistleman wrote in Hello Stupid is perhaps our best way of taking back our power, I will most likely end up dieing for the idea(l). The fascists wont much care for a alternative way of governing being created that will pretty much marginalize their power. This forum (or thread in particular) is not about starting an alternative or parallel form of government. It is the exact opposite LOL. It is part distraction, part entertainment, and 100% informational collaborative research to expose the corruption and hopefully red pill others. Q was and still is the starting point. No one here is advocating for anarchy or government overthrow or open revolt. Again, on the contrary, we are trying to avoid such, but find our society spiraling toward a limited set of alternatives which begs the question 'What Next?'. You do seem to be having a good time provoking the revolutionary thought process though - kinda like the dancing banana dude but perhaps less caustic and better written. Interesting, here I thought Q was all about over-throwing the deep state and that those here supported that. I would venture to say we are all in agreement that those who are considered the politicians charged to lead our country currently residing in positions of power are not really the one's who hold the power, yes? I would also suggest that Q's purpose is to root out those who actually wield power un-wisely, both those who are visible and those who are not, would you agree? If you do, and you are a supporter of Q, are you not contributing to a form of revolution yourself? I have seen clamoring here for Nesara/Gesara, which from my ignorant perspective seems to be a new financial system being touted by the 'white hats'. This idea is perpetuated here, is it not? Could this idea be considered revolutionary, after all I am sure a Rothschild is credited with saying something to the extent, and I am paraphrasing here, 'I care not who makes the laws, what matters is who controls the money'. If you support Q and Q is supporting a new form of financial 'freedoms', would this too have to be considered revolutionary? I guess I am asking, why is it ok for you to push revolutionary idea(l)s here and it is not ok for me? I am simply advocating that people who are reading this thread and following Q take the next logical step and do something more. I feel that the next logical step in doing something more is possibly found in Havel's and Kitselman's Parallel Structures. If we do not seize this opportunity now, we may possibly forever be subjected to the rule of others. From my perspective, that does not seem very desirable, all I have to do is look around to realize I do not want more of the same for myself or future generations. The reality is, GLP, this thread and the Q movement are all forms of parallel structures. Few of us see it though and even fewer want to take it to the next level. I will ask you Tahoe a question I have asked many people since I read Kitselman's Hello Stupid over ten years ago. With the advent of the internet, why do I need a representative? I find it interesting that your handle was just created. Maybe you have been coming here longer than 4 or 5 days, maybe not. Many on this thread do not support Nesara/Gesara. I for one find it an interesting idea that screams NWO. The formation of systems based on Quantum computing and block chain security is something many of us would advocate for many things like ballot capture for me. You have created your own construct of Q as revolutionary. I think of Q as more of a vehicle to think for myself, research for myself, see things in a broader spectrum and recognize the corruption around us. Eradicating the DS is not revolutionary, it is defensive - a return to the original inalienable rights espoused by the Constitution of the United States prior to 1887. As far as carpe diem, what is it that you are proposing to do? You do propose an interesting question regarding representative democracy. However, isn't the idea of such the same as finding collaboration on the internet? Sooner or later, that collaborative will find one voice whether through intellect or bullying to espouse their views to the next group even if either group is comprised of a single individual. Can you imagine how fractured society would become (or is becoming) with 8B individual sovereigns? |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Anti Trump rhetoric with a little CRT thrown in... Quoting: tahoe21 "Above all, it is whiteness, the “world’s most dangerous cult today,” that has replaced other forms of fundamentalism in the West, according to Mishra (BF 59). Racism, he insists, is more than just an “ugly prejudice.” It is a “widely legitimated way of ordering social and economic life” that “attempts to solve, through exclusion and degradation, the problems of establishing political order and pacifying the disaffected, in societies roiled by rapid social and economic change” (49-50). From Woodrow Wilson’s commitment to “preserve ‘white civilisation and its domination of the planet’” in 1917 (46) to Donald Trump’s more recent wielding of “racial degradation” as a tool to create “solidarity among property-owning white men” (139), American history demonstrates that W.E.B. Du Bois, whom Mishra cites regularly in these essays, was entirely correct. If white supremacy is the lifeblood which runs through the veins of both imperialism and capitalism, then the domination of the Earth “for ever and ever,” (53), or absolute property ownership, is the pulsing heart of white supremacy itself (53)." [link to nycbigcitylit.com (secure)] Apparently liberal so called critics love this guy. He may have some good points about humility and enlightenment, but it seems to come from a one-sided argument. Seriously, you are attacking Havel, isnt this something the liberals do? Forget about Havel, lets talk about the about the simple message of Parallel Structures as they can be whatever we desire to make them. Well, it is hard to take anyone seriously who uses racism (in this case anti-white) to define problems in political structure - think South Africa for your parallel structure. |
| tahoe21
User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Anti Trump rhetoric with a little CRT thrown in... Quoting: tahoe21 "Above all, it is whiteness, the “world’s most dangerous cult today,” that has replaced other forms of fundamentalism in the West, according to Mishra (BF 59). Racism, he insists, is more than just an “ugly prejudice.” It is a “widely legitimated way of ordering social and economic life” that “attempts to solve, through exclusion and degradation, the problems of establishing political order and pacifying the disaffected, in societies roiled by rapid social and economic change” (49-50). From Woodrow Wilson’s commitment to “preserve ‘white civilisation and its domination of the planet’” in 1917 (46) to Donald Trump’s more recent wielding of “racial degradation” as a tool to create “solidarity among property-owning white men” (139), American history demonstrates that W.E.B. Du Bois, whom Mishra cites regularly in these essays, was entirely correct. If white supremacy is the lifeblood which runs through the veins of both imperialism and capitalism, then the domination of the Earth “for ever and ever,” (53), or absolute property ownership, is the pulsing heart of white supremacy itself (53)." [link to nycbigcitylit.com (secure)] Apparently liberal so called critics love this guy. He may have some good points about humility and enlightenment, but it seems to come from a one-sided argument. Seriously, you are attacking Havel, isnt this something the liberals do? Forget about Havel, lets talk about the about the simple message of Parallel Structures as they can be whatever we desire to make them. I am interested in what your Parallel Structure would look like, so please elaborate how you might parallel the Q movement and with what specific actions. |
| PiccoloGal
User ID: 76190053 United States08/22/2021 10:49 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need to ask a question here that I asked in another thread as I see many clinging to Trump's stance that he would not make any vaccine or passport mandatory. Quoting: Questioning369 If Trump was in power today, do you think he would defer to the states whether or not to mandate vaccines and or passports much like he did in 2020 with the other mandates such as lock-downs, social distancing and masks? Do you think the states will act differently today with regards to passports than they did with lock-downs? I can not help but see that ultimately we end up at the same place, which of course will not be good for the people. Once again it is obvious, two sides of the same coin. Does not matter if you manage to vote Trump in or not, you will still get what they have coming for you, one way or another. If Trump was the officially recognized figure of POTUS today, I believe, based upon his past policy decisions, he would leave the mandate question up to individual jurisdictions (the States). That said, just because a vaccine is FDA approved does not necessarily equal the need for nation-wide mandates. I'm of the belief that mandates are unconstitutional. Any mandate enforced upon a free individual directly contradicts the sovereign rights described in the Declarations of Independence and, more importantly, violates the U.S. Constitution Bill of Rights. I agree except even w/o approval there have already been mandates on the federal and state levels. Since when have these fascists ever concerned themselves with the Constitution? It seems like you are saying these things could not happen based on the Constitution but you can not deny that last year happened, when they trampled all over the Constitution with the lock-downs and other nonsensical mandates. The normies are going to be even more set in their stance that the vax is good when the fda approves even one of the jabs. This is happening as early as this week it appears? We are losing ground, they think one of our main arguments against not getting the jab is that it is not fully approved and that part of our argument is about to be taken away, which it is! We basically had a bad flu weaponized against the people with everything pointing towards this all part of a greater plan and you want to hang your hat on the same states that un-Constitutionally locked their own people down to do the right thing this year with regards to the vaccine when all they are pushing is get the vaccine? I swear, I cant help but think those who said Q was a psyop to pacify the conservative base might not have been too far off the mark. I can not see how the hour can get any later, yet here we are depending on all the same people who have proven you can not depend on them to fix things. What a mess and my apologies for the negative vibes, I just think some of these things need to be said. As the military takes an oath to defend the Constitution, I think when the FDA approves the jab, if the Biden faux administration then forces everyone take the clot-shot, it will cause the line in the sand to be crossed which then activates the Q posts saying the, “Military is the only way”. |
| DaveNKansas
User ID: 80646086 United States08/22/2021 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW lady from Alabama just said on Negative48 chat that she saw seal team 6 guy and JFK JR at Trump rally last night. She said she saw them in the tent, and she has pics. Implied candid pic she took. She’s Sendung to admin there so hopefully admin will post. Gemetria shows JFK JR alive |
| Questioning369
User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Questioning369 I can totally relate to that, I have a thread about Parallel Structures on this forum which I have always thought as a solution. I have even brought it up in this thread, I have gone by the name Soloma here, I think we should be taking back control of our government by creating a new one, a parallel government. I can not see how you fix a fatally flawed system from within that same system. Unfortunately it seems as much as I think this forum is a good place to discuss and potentially start something like this, the typical response indicates otherwise. I have heard things like representative republic good, we have not had a chance to see it work properly because it has been corrupted for so long, all we need is the constitution which is perfect, etc. Oh, apathy too, lots of apathy. It seems to me like most do not want to take responsibility for fixing this mess even if we contributed to us getting here in the first place. Yes, I can relate about dieing a patriot. I imagine at some point if I am able to help more people understand what Havel call's Parallel Structures and what Alva L. Kistleman wrote in Hello Stupid is perhaps our best way of taking back our power, I will most likely end up dieing for the idea(l). The fascists wont much care for a alternative way of governing being created that will pretty much marginalize their power. This forum (or thread in particular) is not about starting an alternative or parallel form of government. It is the exact opposite LOL. It is part distraction, part entertainment, and 100% informational collaborative research to expose the corruption and hopefully red pill others. Q was and still is the starting point. No one here is advocating for anarchy or government overthrow or open revolt. Again, on the contrary, we are trying to avoid such, but find our society spiraling toward a limited set of alternatives which begs the question 'What Next?'. You do seem to be having a good time provoking the revolutionary thought process though - kinda like the dancing banana dude but perhaps less caustic and better written. Interesting, here I thought Q was all about over-throwing the deep state and that those here supported that. I would venture to say we are all in agreement that those who are considered the politicians charged to lead our country currently residing in positions of power are not really the one's who hold the power, yes? I would also suggest that Q's purpose is to root out those who actually wield power un-wisely, both those who are visible and those who are not, would you agree? If you do, and you are a supporter of Q, are you not contributing to a form of revolution yourself? I have seen clamoring here for Nesara/Gesara, which from my ignorant perspective seems to be a new financial system being touted by the 'white hats'. This idea is perpetuated here, is it not? Could this idea be considered revolutionary, after all I am sure a Rothschild is credited with saying something to the extent, and I am paraphrasing here, 'I care not who makes the laws, what matters is who controls the money'. If you support Q and Q is supporting a new form of financial 'freedoms', would this too have to be considered revolutionary? I guess I am asking, why is it ok for you to push revolutionary idea(l)s here and it is not ok for me? I am simply advocating that people who are reading this thread and following Q take the next logical step and do something more. I feel that the next logical step in doing something more is possibly found in Havel's and Kitselman's Parallel Structures. If we do not seize this opportunity now, we may possibly forever be subjected to the rule of others. From my perspective, that does not seem very desirable, all I have to do is look around to realize I do not want more of the same for myself or future generations. The reality is, GLP, this thread and the Q movement are all forms of parallel structures. Few of us see it though and even fewer want to take it to the next level. I will ask you Tahoe a question I have asked many people since I read Kitselman's Hello Stupid over ten years ago. With the advent of the internet, why do I need a representative? I find it interesting that your handle was just created. Maybe you have been coming here longer than 4 or 5 days, maybe not. Many on this thread do not support Nesara/Gesara. I for one find it an interesting idea that screams NWO. The formation of systems based on Quantum computing and block chain security is something many of us would advocate for many things like ballot capture for me. You have created your own construct of Q as revolutionary. I think of Q as more of a vehicle to think for myself, research for myself, see things in a broader spectrum and recognize the corruption around us. Eradicating the DS is not revolutionary, it is defensive - a return to the original inalienable rights espoused by the Constitution of the United States prior to 1887. As far as carpe diem, what is it that you are proposing to do? You do propose an interesting question regarding representative democracy. However, isn't the idea of such the same as finding collaboration on the internet? Sooner or later, that collaborative will find one voice whether through intellect or bullying to espouse their views to the next group even if either group is comprised of a single individual. Can you imagine how fractured society would become (or is becoming) with 8B individual sovereigns? I have been participating on GLP as an AC and sometimes as Soloma since 2009. I have been following this thread for at least three years, even posting in this very thread the very idea of parallel structures quite some time ago, but it was based on Kitselman's writing. I had no idea who Havel was until the Academy of Ideas video was dropped here recently about mass psychosis. I have had a couple free accounts here attached to the Soloma name but have mostly contributed as an AC. I tend to forget the passwords to both here and the emails attached to the Soloma accounts so I moved on from them with the recent AC ban. I concur with you about the nesara/gesara nwo link, which makes me question the peddlers of the idea. I never heard of it until Q and my first thought was, isnt this the same as digital currency being claimed to be coming via the nwo and their great reset? I am interested in the tech's of block chain and quantum computing as well, though know very little. I have been saying it seems we need to have both electronic (whatever form that takes) and paper ballots so that we can match the two to confirm the way a person votes. Personally I feel like secretive voting only contributes to our current problems, so easily corruptible, how could you know? I would disagree, in our current climate, thinking for yourself is very revolutionary and certainly not what the current or even former leader/governments want from their people. I very much respect you and those here for your thoughts and research into exposing the deep state, it is why I can not help but think people like you might be interested in parallel structures/government. While I agree, a return to the constitution would desirable compared to where we are now, how can you be sure you or future generations will be able to keep it? As long as there is some sort of incentive, such as being bought off or threatened, there will always be representative who can be corrupted. I know that the Q narrative is to fix this from happening in the future but how can you be sure that their vision for what is proper and just, wise and compassionate will mesh with yours? You stated above you are not too keen on nesara/gesara, what else might you not be so keen on? How can you be sure at this point in time that the whole things turns out the way you desire or even as it is being presented? You have no control over any of it and quite frankly may be perpetuating something that you might end up ultimately not be happy with. What I am proposing is that those who would be inclined, those who think and or feel as you, who care and have positive intent discuss the parallel structure idea. What might a parallel government look like? Could it be run on the or parallel internet? Kitselman stated that he thought one vote for one man produced slightly better than average leadership. Do you think this statement has merit as I do and if so, how might you envision a system looking that does not reward one vote for one man? Kitselman thought government should be grounded in wisdom, he thought to achieve this we as our own representatives should answer the question, 'what is wise in everything'. Do you think this statement has merit? So you see, what I am proposing is dialogue. I even started a thread to address it, just search parallel. If we were able to find a single voice through collaboration, I would consider that a success. I would suggest there be little tolerance for bullies, I have found little to no wisdom in bullies in my years and search for truth. My focus is not on whether or not 8B may become more or less fractured by these idea(l)s, more so the focus is on finding like minded individuals to just begin the conversation on whether or not Havel and Kitselman have made legit suggestions as to how to fix our corrupt systems. I for one think they have. 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User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Anti Trump rhetoric with a little CRT thrown in... Quoting: tahoe21 "Above all, it is whiteness, the “world’s most dangerous cult today,” that has replaced other forms of fundamentalism in the West, according to Mishra (BF 59). Racism, he insists, is more than just an “ugly prejudice.” It is a “widely legitimated way of ordering social and economic life” that “attempts to solve, through exclusion and degradation, the problems of establishing political order and pacifying the disaffected, in societies roiled by rapid social and economic change” (49-50). From Woodrow Wilson’s commitment to “preserve ‘white civilisation and its domination of the planet’” in 1917 (46) to Donald Trump’s more recent wielding of “racial degradation” as a tool to create “solidarity among property-owning white men” (139), American history demonstrates that W.E.B. Du Bois, whom Mishra cites regularly in these essays, was entirely correct. If white supremacy is the lifeblood which runs through the veins of both imperialism and capitalism, then the domination of the Earth “for ever and ever,” (53), or absolute property ownership, is the pulsing heart of white supremacy itself (53)." [link to nycbigcitylit.com (secure)] Apparently liberal so called critics love this guy. He may have some good points about humility and enlightenment, but it seems to come from a one-sided argument. Seriously, you are attacking Havel, isnt this something the liberals do? Forget about Havel, lets talk about the about the simple message of Parallel Structures as they can be whatever we desire to make them. Well, it is hard to take anyone seriously who uses racism (in this case anti-white) to define problems in political structure - think South Africa for your parallel structure. Just so it is clear, I am not interested in anything to do with Havel other than the idea of parallel structures being attributed to him. Nothing else concerning him matters to me, I am focused simply on parallel structures and have perpetuated the attribution to him that was made in the academy video about mass psychosis. Last Edited by Questioning369 on 08/22/2021 11:09 PM Questioning369 |
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User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Anti Trump rhetoric with a little CRT thrown in... Quoting: tahoe21 "Above all, it is whiteness, the “world’s most dangerous cult today,” that has replaced other forms of fundamentalism in the West, according to Mishra (BF 59). Racism, he insists, is more than just an “ugly prejudice.” It is a “widely legitimated way of ordering social and economic life” that “attempts to solve, through exclusion and degradation, the problems of establishing political order and pacifying the disaffected, in societies roiled by rapid social and economic change” (49-50). From Woodrow Wilson’s commitment to “preserve ‘white civilisation and its domination of the planet’” in 1917 (46) to Donald Trump’s more recent wielding of “racial degradation” as a tool to create “solidarity among property-owning white men” (139), American history demonstrates that W.E.B. Du Bois, whom Mishra cites regularly in these essays, was entirely correct. If white supremacy is the lifeblood which runs through the veins of both imperialism and capitalism, then the domination of the Earth “for ever and ever,” (53), or absolute property ownership, is the pulsing heart of white supremacy itself (53)." [link to nycbigcitylit.com (secure)] Apparently liberal so called critics love this guy. He may have some good points about humility and enlightenment, but it seems to come from a one-sided argument. Seriously, you are attacking Havel, isnt this something the liberals do? Forget about Havel, lets talk about the about the simple message of Parallel Structures as they can be whatever we desire to make them. I am interested in what your Parallel Structure would look like, so please elaborate how you might parallel the Q movement and with what specific actions. Thread: Parallel Structures My parallel structure is based on Kitselman's Hello Stupid. Kitselman suggested government should be based on wisdom, I feel adding compassion and service to others should be considered. He said it should or would require computers to run, mind you this was written in 62, as such I see it naturally compatible with the internet. He suggested it be implemented anywhere a vote might be taken such as in business or in a social club. I feel like it truly begins on the personal level and feel that whatever form it takes, it should flexible enough to be applied where ever we deem necessary. In my vision of it, I see it as a reprogramming of self to a more wise and compassionate way of life. Something that should elevate man as opposed to oppressing him. I would suggest we seriously consider the extreme opposite of what we have in society today with the expectation as the pendulum swings, we find a more middle of the path way of living. Questioning369 |
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User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need to ask a question here that I asked in another thread as I see many clinging to Trump's stance that he would not make any vaccine or passport mandatory. Quoting: Questioning369 If Trump was in power today, do you think he would defer to the states whether or not to mandate vaccines and or passports much like he did in 2020 with the other mandates such as lock-downs, social distancing and masks? Do you think the states will act differently today with regards to passports than they did with lock-downs? I can not help but see that ultimately we end up at the same place, which of course will not be good for the people. Once again it is obvious, two sides of the same coin. Does not matter if you manage to vote Trump in or not, you will still get what they have coming for you, one way or another. If Trump was the officially recognized figure of POTUS today, I believe, based upon his past policy decisions, he would leave the mandate question up to individual jurisdictions (the States). That said, just because a vaccine is FDA approved does not necessarily equal the need for nation-wide mandates. I'm of the belief that mandates are unconstitutional. Any mandate enforced upon a free individual directly contradicts the sovereign rights described in the Declarations of Independence and, more importantly, violates the U.S. Constitution Bill of Rights. I agree except even w/o approval there have already been mandates on the federal and state levels. Since when have these fascists ever concerned themselves with the Constitution? It seems like you are saying these things could not happen based on the Constitution but you can not deny that last year happened, when they trampled all over the Constitution with the lock-downs and other nonsensical mandates. The normies are going to be even more set in their stance that the vax is good when the fda approves even one of the jabs. This is happening as early as this week it appears? We are losing ground, they think one of our main arguments against not getting the jab is that it is not fully approved and that part of our argument is about to be taken away, which it is! We basically had a bad flu weaponized against the people with everything pointing towards this all part of a greater plan and you want to hang your hat on the same states that un-Constitutionally locked their own people down to do the right thing this year with regards to the vaccine when all they are pushing is get the vaccine? I swear, I cant help but think those who said Q was a psyop to pacify the conservative base might not have been too far off the mark. I can not see how the hour can get any later, yet here we are depending on all the same people who have proven you can not depend on them to fix things. What a mess and my apologies for the negative vibes, I just think some of these things need to be said. As the military takes an oath to defend the Constitution, I think when the FDA approves the jab, if the Biden faux administration then forces everyone take the clot-shot, it will cause the line in the sand to be crossed which then activates the Q posts saying the, “Military is the only way”. I truly hope so. I just feel it might be short sighted to not consider the possibility that something like this does not happen. I also feel it would be prudent and wise to consider the parallel structure idea regardless as we just might create something wonderful, leaving the world better than we found it. Questioning369 |
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User ID: 80112478 United States08/22/2021 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Could it be run on the or parallel internet? Kitselman stated that he thought one vote for one man produced slightly better than average leadership." Does Kitselman (whom I have never read) subscribe to the Socratic method? If so, there is a parallel to Q. However, anything other than 'one man one vote' will allow for corruption of the process and discrimination. Doing so in the internet environment would lead to AI dominance or at the least the temptation to create multiple personas to affect outcomes and hence, the real emergence of the Great Reset...IMHO. Again, though, how does this relate to a parallel structure regarding the Q movement in particular? Or are you saying the Q movement is the parallel structure? Perhaps the time is right to reinvigorate your previous thread. |
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User ID: 76247601 United States08/22/2021 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Could it be run on the or parallel internet? Kitselman stated that he thought one vote for one man produced slightly better than average leadership." Quoting: tahoe21 Does Kitselman (whom I have never read) subscribe to the Socratic method? If so, there is a parallel to Q. However, anything other than 'one man one vote' will allow for corruption of the process and discrimination. Doing so in the internet environment would lead to AI dominance or at the least the temptation to create multiple personas to affect outcomes and hence, the real emergence of the Great Reset...IMHO. Again, though, how does this relate to a parallel structure regarding the Q movement in particular? Or are you saying the Q movement is the parallel structure? Perhaps the time is right to reinvigorate your previous thread. Hello Stupid is written in the Socratic method. It used to be available online, which is where I read it. Since then the family had it pulled and re-published along with his other works. I think you very much would appreciate the book. As I said previously, I see GLP, this thread and Q all forms of parallel structures. Even facebook, youtube, reddit etc are all forms of parallel structures, they all develop their own limited vernaculars, ways of doing things, expectations of each other, attract like minded individuals, etc etc. I have suggested that we might need an independent but parallel in nature internet. That the software that it is run on should be open sourced and taught to all who would learn so that we might self police. I agree that anything other than 'one vote for one man' could lead to corruption, but we have that already with all of our current systems so do not see that as a reason to not experiment. I would suggest we come up with whatever methods are necessary to limit or totally abolish corruption. I would posit that a system such as this should be transparent in every way. I hate to admit this because quite frankly this will turn people off but I see China's social credit system in this. Except for the fact that we would control the parameters of what is important to us. I linked the other thread, even bumped it today but it really gets no traction. Too much apathy, too much ingrained expectation that our savior is external instead of internal. Thanks for such a reasonable discussion, am looking forward to the continuation of it, hopefully in the other thread as I am really not trying to derail this thread, even if the end goals are similar in nature. Last Edited by Questioning369 on 08/22/2021 11:52 PM Questioning369 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80671179 United States08/23/2021 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Could it be run on the or parallel internet? Kitselman stated that he thought one vote for one man produced slightly better than average leadership." Quoting: tahoe21 Does Kitselman (whom I have never read) subscribe to the Socratic method? If so, there is a parallel to Q. However, anything other than 'one man one vote' will allow for corruption of the process and discrimination. Doing so in the internet environment would lead to AI dominance or at the least the temptation to create multiple personas to affect outcomes and hence, the real emergence of the Great Reset...IMHO. Again, though, how does this relate to a parallel structure regarding the Q movement in particular? Or are you saying the Q movement is the parallel structure? Perhaps the time is right to reinvigorate your previous thread. Hello Stupid is written in the Socratic method. It used to be available online, which is where I read it. Since then the family had it pulled and re-published along with his other works. I think you very much would appreciate the book. As I said previously, I see GLP, this thread and Q all forms of parallel structures. Even facebook, youtube, reddit etc are all forms of parallel structures, they all develop their own limited vernaculars, ways of doing things, expectations of each other, attract like minded individuals, etc etc. I have suggested that we might need an independent but parallel in nature internet. That the software that it is run on should be open sourced and taught to all who would learn so that we might self police. I agree that anything other than 'one vote for one man' could lead to corruption, but we have that already with all of our current systems so do not see that as a reason to not experiment. I would suggest we come up with whatever methods are necessary to limit or totally abolish corruption. I would posit that a system such as this should be transparent in every way. I hate to admit this because quite frankly this will turn people off but I see China's social credit system in this. Except for the fact that we would control the parameters of what is important to us. I linked the other thread, even bumped it today but it really gets no traction. Too much apathy, too much ingrained expectation that our savior is external instead of internal. Thanks for such a reasonable discussion, am looking forward to the continuation of it, hopefully in the other thread as I am really not trying to derail this thread, even if the end goals are similar in nature. Blockchain government by being open and transparent on budget, stay within budget, pay our debts, save, asset shares for citizens, and in order to do this, our one man one vote, on EVERY item in the house, we are the house, become empowered in our enfranchisement to directly represent ourselves in our house of self representatives. Firepass, house lawyers,and illegalize lobbying, pacs, propaganda. Reduce all unions power except at their industry and trade third party employee/employer level. Outlaw politics, and instead participate, directly, in nation husbandry, as a service to country,and duty to our future. |
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User ID: 76247601 United States08/23/2021 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Could it be run on the or parallel internet? Kitselman stated that he thought one vote for one man produced slightly better than average leadership." Quoting: tahoe21 Does Kitselman (whom I have never read) subscribe to the Socratic method? If so, there is a parallel to Q. However, anything other than 'one man one vote' will allow for corruption of the process and discrimination. Doing so in the internet environment would lead to AI dominance or at the least the temptation to create multiple personas to affect outcomes and hence, the real emergence of the Great Reset...IMHO. Again, though, how does this relate to a parallel structure regarding the Q movement in particular? Or are you saying the Q movement is the parallel structure? Perhaps the time is right to reinvigorate your previous thread. Hello Stupid is written in the Socratic method. It used to be available online, which is where I read it. Since then the family had it pulled and re-published along with his other works. I think you very much would appreciate the book. As I said previously, I see GLP, this thread and Q all forms of parallel structures. Even facebook, youtube, reddit etc are all forms of parallel structures, they all develop their own limited vernaculars, ways of doing things, expectations of each other, attract like minded individuals, etc etc. I have suggested that we might need an independent but parallel in nature internet. That the software that it is run on should be open sourced and taught to all who would learn so that we might self police. I agree that anything other than 'one vote for one man' could lead to corruption, but we have that already with all of our current systems so do not see that as a reason to not experiment. I would suggest we come up with whatever methods are necessary to limit or totally abolish corruption. I would posit that a system such as this should be transparent in every way. I hate to admit this because quite frankly this will turn people off but I see China's social credit system in this. Except for the fact that we would control the parameters of what is important to us. I linked the other thread, even bumped it today but it really gets no traction. Too much apathy, too much ingrained expectation that our savior is external instead of internal. Thanks for such a reasonable discussion, am looking forward to the continuation of it, hopefully in the other thread as I am really not trying to derail this thread, even if the end goals are similar in nature. Blockchain government by being open and transparent on budget, stay within budget, pay our debts, save, asset shares for citizens, and in order to do this, our one man one vote, on EVERY item in the house, we are the house, become empowered in our enfranchisement to directly represent ourselves in our house of self representatives. Firepass, house lawyers,and illegalize lobbying, pacs, propaganda. Reduce all unions power except at their industry and trade third party employee/employer level. Outlaw politics, and instead participate, directly, in nation husbandry, as a service to country,and duty to our future. I would say we are very much on the same page however this seems to be more of a change to what we already have now if I am understanding you correctly. Do you think capitalism is part of any future solution? Do you think capitalism promotes materialism->greed->corruption? Can you explain how a block chain government might work based on your understanding of it? I agree with much of what you have posted, I can not help but feel that capitalism, much like all current forms of 'isms' have helped get us to where we are today. Which is why I like the idea of government based in wisdom, which I consider spiritual in nature and the antithesis of what we have today. I am curious too about your decodes, not that I fully understand how you do them or how you arrive at your conclusions but they are very interesting none the less. I am curious if you would be able to decode anything about Alva LaSalle Kitselman and this idea in general, perhaps his book Hello Stupid. I am not sure how it works so I will try and provide links for you to work with, if you would be inclined. [link to www.kitselman.com] [link to issuu.com (secure)] Questioning369 |
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User ID: 76247601 United States08/23/2021 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Questioning369 I guess to answer my own question, you would have to hope the whole Q narrative is true. Even then, his support of the vaccine is disturbing as to me it does not matter what he took or means, it matters how all of this affects the people. If they are to approve one of these jabs this week, how will the election issue be settled prior to additional mandates, perhaps this time on the federal as well as state level? It is hard for me to see him, provided he truly is a white hat, back in office prior to mandates, boosters, passports and more importantly, how many untold deaths. In the Q narrative, arent they calling him the last President? Seems sort of ominous to me, especially if you consider Joe a fraud. How does this all work out even with the Q plan? I am not sure I see the timing in it working out. Looking for some hopium somewhere here, anyone? I figure if President Trump was where he rightfully belongs, all blue states would be doing everything in their power to wrench him and his agenda. Just like they did for 5 yrs…. Oh, no doubt. I guess I am trying to focus on the death jab though. I am trying to reconcile the Q narrative with what I am seeing. I have been following this thread for three years with the sincere hope that all our faith in Q was well placed. Right now, so much is going on but the Q narrative is focus on the audit(s). Do not get distracted from the audit(s), right? Well shit, what about the darn death jab that is about to be fda approved??? Freaking AUS and France are having hell brought to their front door, yet you are encouraged to keep focused on the audit(s). How are these audit(s) going to have Trump back in office in time to save all the people who are taking or forced to take the jab? Wouldnt it be safe to say if he was back in office, he would defer this to the states as he should? Are these states also not as corrupt as our federal government? How can you safely assume they would all of a sudden act in your best interest when to date, they have done nothing of the sort? It just is not making sense to me anymore, I just does not see how this plays out positively for the people. It may never make sense to us. Military op. It may not play out well for all…..the end won’t be for everyone Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 87df69 No.351447 📁 Feb 12 2018 11:50:26 (EST) Anonymous ID: a4bb61 No.351343 📁 Feb 12 2018 11:44:06 (EST) controlling the crops, controls the people (sheep) (might be reaching, but throwing it out there) >>351343 Coincidence the Matrix (movie) grew people as a crop, used for energy, and controlled their mind? Sound familiar? Wonder where they derived that idea from. Now comes the 'conspiracy' label. Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes. The end won't be for everyone. That choice, to know, will be yours. Q Indeed, multiple meanings to everything. Can not help but equate this to the claim that to balance their karma, they have to tell us what they are doing, justifying their actions. Is Q really that different? Sure is cryptic with very few people who are capable of pied pipering the rest of us along. I guess it is just my nature to question it all, which is why I am advocating for a parallel structure sort of option in a pray for the best, plan for the worst sort of scenario. Thanks HMM, I appreciate your input here. Off to bed, g'night and God bless us all. Questioning369 |
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User ID: 78469143 United States08/23/2021 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need to ask a question here that I asked in another thread as I see many clinging to Trump's stance that he would not make any vaccine or passport mandatory. Quoting: Questioning369 If Trump was in power today, do you think he would defer to the states whether or not to mandate vaccines and or passports much like he did in 2020 with the other mandates such as lock-downs, social distancing and masks? Do you think the states will act differently today with regards to passports than they did with lock-downs? I can not help but see that ultimately we end up at the same place, which of course will not be good for the people. Once again it is obvious, two sides of the same coin. Does not matter if you manage to vote Trump in or not, you will still get what they have coming for you, one way or another. If Trump was the officially recognized figure of POTUS today, I believe, based upon his past policy decisions, he would leave the mandate question up to individual jurisdictions (the States). That said, just because a vaccine is FDA approved does not necessarily equal the need for nation-wide mandates. I'm of the belief that mandates are unconstitutional. Any mandate enforced upon a free individual directly contradicts the sovereign rights described in the Declarations of Independence and, more importantly, violates the U.S. Constitution Bill of Rights. Do you still consider this serum real medicine. Nope. They actually told us what it is when it was orginally approved by the FDA. It's an EXPERIMENT and they want all of us to be Guinea Pigs. ~These aren't the tards you're looking for~ :seal::rastabanan: |
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User ID: 80396344 United States08/23/2021 01:26 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wales language is now linked to “white supremacist ideology”. Wales, one of the Home Nations of the United Kingdom, is officially a bilingual nation, using both English and the ancient Celtic language of Welsh as its two languages. The Arts Council of Wales report concluded that it is itself “systemically racist” through its use of the Welsh language and that the very concept of Welsh “meant white”.<50% [link to www.breitbart.com (secure)] |
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Everything User ID: 80628258 United States08/23/2021 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Could it be run on the or parallel internet? Kitselman stated that he thought one vote for one man produced slightly better than average leadership." Quoting: tahoe21 Does Kitselman (whom I have never read) subscribe to the Socratic method? If so, there is a parallel to Q. However, anything other than 'one man one vote' will allow for corruption of the process and discrimination. Doing so in the internet environment would lead to AI dominance or at the least the temptation to create multiple personas to affect outcomes and hence, the real emergence of the Great Reset...IMHO. Again, though, how does this relate to a parallel structure regarding the Q movement in particular? Or are you saying the Q movement is the parallel structure? Perhaps the time is right to reinvigorate your previous thread. There is a reason you do not do crowd vote, yes crowd vote, yes one man or woman has a vote, the vote picks your person who does it the constitutional way. The idea of one man one vote was not pick because a group in crowds tend to pick their dictators in many, many historical ways, Hitler is just one example. The reason we vote and pick a person in our party or group who represent us, is because we are a constitutional republic and not a wild west show. Ours if we win the state however it is set up by legal means not by cheating, sends the one we voted to Washington to show our vote, at times if they understand a person has health or anything that comes out after or right before the vote they are supposed to not pick that person say Biden mental condition and also Congress is supposed to do the same, another if they see a lot of fraud going on. All safety nets were broken deliberately this last voting cycle. All of the break down was by design of some group. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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User ID: 80396344 United States08/23/2021 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did a thread but bringing over to ensure you guys see LIVE: President Biden Press Conference [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80671179 United States08/23/2021 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The cost of the war in Afghanistan is complete fabrication. 3000 low paid soldiers, red fuel diesel equivalent for planes to transport, cheap food, bullets and that's it. It's not like we've built infrastructure, except our own temporary bases. Nope, I don't see the cost. It must be one huge money funnel. Like Ukraine. The kill shot dates and profit schedules were all printed so it was tick rock race against the clock, to oust trump before the event 201 went live, and who wants to be backrow backwater when greasing with grift gotten gains will get you the penthouse suite, but they needed to get to the top to break from the bottom up to where you feel like sharing is caring. That's why it was one thing after another. Mueller, impeachment, impeachment after election |
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Everything User ID: 80628258 United States08/23/2021 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FDA has approved Regeneron for experimental use for COV treatment before hospitalization. If you have been exposed and also even after taking the vaccines if a length of time has gone by. Read all information and follow links, do more research for yourself. [link to www.fda.gov (secure)] [link to www.regencov.com (secure)] Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Everything User ID: 80628258 United States08/23/2021 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Questioning369 Oh, no doubt. I guess I am trying to focus on the death jab though. I am trying to reconcile the Q narrative with what I am seeing. I have been following this thread for three years with the sincere hope that all our faith in Q was well placed. Right now, so much is going on but the Q narrative is focus on the audit(s). Do not get distracted from the audit(s), right? Well shit, what about the darn death jab that is about to be fda approved??? Freaking AUS and France are having hell brought to their front door, yet you are encouraged to keep focused on the audit(s). How are these audit(s) going to have Trump back in office in time to save all the people who are taking or forced to take the jab? Wouldnt it be safe to say if he was back in office, he would defer this to the states as he should? Are these states also not as corrupt as our federal government? How can you safely assume they would all of a sudden act in your best interest when to date, they have done nothing of the sort? It just is not making sense to me anymore, I just does not see how this plays out positively for the people. It may never make sense to us. Military op. It may not play out well for all…..the end won’t be for everyone Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 87df69 No.351447 📁 Feb 12 2018 11:50:26 (EST) Anonymous ID: a4bb61 No.351343 📁 Feb 12 2018 11:44:06 (EST) controlling the crops, controls the people (sheep) (might be reaching, but throwing it out there) >>351343 Coincidence the Matrix (movie) grew people as a crop, used for energy, and controlled their mind? Sound familiar? Wonder where they derived that idea from. Now comes the 'conspiracy' label. Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes. The end won't be for everyone. That choice, to know, will be yours. Q Indeed, multiple meanings to everything. Can not help but equate this to the claim that to balance their karma, they have to tell us what they are doing, justifying their actions. Is Q really that different? Sure is cryptic with very few people who are capable of pied pipering the rest of us along. I guess it is just my nature to question it all, which is why I am advocating for a parallel structure sort of option in a pray for the best, plan for the worst sort of scenario. Thanks HMM, I appreciate your input here. Off to bed, g'night and God bless us all. I am just along for this hellacious ride, learning what i can, informing when I believe it will fall on discerning ears. If not for Q and the good folks here…..dunnno where id be…..bored…..for sure! Who said something about "It Starts in Alabama", was it in some reference at some time? Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
