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12th U.S. Coronavirus Case Confirmed in Wisconsin
Officials said the patient is recovering at home in isolation
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It's Friday AM in Hubei. Local authorities have been ordered to test every suspected case in Wuhan by COB today.

They are going door-to-door.

Going to be an interesting day there, methinks.
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The logistics of an operation of that type in a population mass like that are simply staggering and for me personally overwhelming. I'm not even trying to understand the psychological side of the decisions that will have to be made by Governments. The scale of this is almost too much to even consider when I struggle with the scale of just simply trying to keep my damned hands from touching my face !! I say that last part in a bit of jest but the processes in fighting a .5 micron beast doesn't process !! ... If I misquoted the size please forgive me !!

I would take just about any other Doom this Universe can throw at us besides Virus Doom ... Nothing we can do know but stare this thing in the face and be courageous no matter the outcome !!!!

Just a Rant I needed to get off I guess feel free to delete Nawty !! And once again thank you so much for keeping a clean thread on this, really do appreciate the help you are giving in helping a lot of people process this !!
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Daily Hubei Numbers

[link to wjw.hubei.gov.cn]


2447 new cases

69 new deaths

184 new hospital discharges



22112 total confirmed

817 total cured

618 deaths

15804 cases are still being treated
4002 are severe 25% of the cases in hospital are severe

101,599 close contacts have been tracked
64,057 still under medical observation
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Wow, they really are sticking to their curve, aren’t they? 69 deaths. They must think us fools.
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Daily Hubei Numbers

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2447 new cases

69 new deaths

184 new hospital discharges



22112 total confirmed

817 total cured

618 deaths

15804 cases are still being treated
4002 are severe 25% of the cases in hospital are severe

101,599 close contacts have been tracked
64,057 still under medical observation
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Wow, they really are sticking to their curve, aren’t they? 69 deaths. They must think us fools.
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The numbers in Hubei ar down a bit today. Did they run up against a testing wall? In a few days, we will have big numbers if they are really testing door-to-door. Maybe we have hit an inflection point and they actually got a handle on Hubei. Time will tell. One or 2 days does not a trend make.
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Coronavirus: UK tells all Britons to leave China 'if they can'

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At this point, they need to stay.
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Pandemic
Before a Pandemic

Store a two week supply of water and food.
Periodically check your regular prescription drugs to ensure a continuous supply in your home.
Have any nonprescription drugs and other health supplies on hand, including pain relievers, stomach remedies, cough and cold medicines, fluids with electrolytes, and vitamins.
Get copies and maintain electronic versions of health records from doctors, hospitals, pharmacies and other sources and store them, for personal reference. Get help accessing electronic health records.
Talk with family members and loved ones about how they would be cared for if they got sick, or what will be needed to care for them in your home.
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It's Friday AM in Hubei. Local authorities have been ordered to test every suspected case in Wuhan by COB today.

They are going door-to-door.

Going to be an interesting day there, methinks.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


i don't see how this is even possable. 1st u have to have 11 million kits. then u have to have enough time to run the tests for that many. even to test just the mass # of potentially infected is a huge project.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I posting this morning about the case in Wisconsin.

A few sources.

[link to nypost.com (secure)]

[link to www.nbc15.com (secure)]

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]

[link to www.nbcchicago.com (secure)]

[link to www.nbc15.com (secure)]

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

Why am I bringing it up again? Because it is STILL not listed as an official case at the CDC.More than 24 hours after being confirmed by a local lab,and the DOD.

And I keep see even in this thread 11 cases in the USA.So I know many are not aware.It is actually 12. Actually much higher,many test results have to be done by now they are just not reporting the results to the public.

I think they are trying to decide how they are going to break the news of a local outbreak to people.They are probably studying different ways terms and ideas on how to do it.

Take the 108 quarantined at Princeton University.Now only SYMPTOMATIC cases are being self quarantines,and the number stands at 22.They have the test result by now as it has been more than 5 days.How do you break that news....?

We will soon see I hope.
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On the CDC call yesterday they said State numbers will be more accurate than the CDC numbers as they will update totals on Mon/Wed/Fri. So I would expect to see the WI patient in the total tomorrow.
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HAHAHAHA,u bought that? did u not see the reports that the states decide if to release any of the info on the tests? so some states decided not to even tell u they did any tests let aloone the results.

if i don't tell u your house is on fire but u see flames, would u run and call the fire dept?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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china daily numbers

[link to www.nhc.gov.cn]

3,143 newly confirmed

387 newly cured

26,762 close contacts of medical observations

962 new cases of severe cases

73 new cases of death

4833 suspected cases

totals


31,161 confirmed cases

1,540 cured

636 deaths

26359 suspected cases

314,028 close contacts were traced, and 186,045 close contacts were still in medical observation

A total of 50 confirmed cases were reported from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan: 24 in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (1 death), 10 in the Macao Special Administrative Region (1 in discharged from cure), and 16 in Taiwan (1 discharged from cure).
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Wow - another *41* cases of coronavirus found among passengers on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship docked near Yokohama

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wtf
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Wow - another *41* cases of coronavirus found among passengers on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship docked near Yokohama

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wtf
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Can we calculate RO from the ship numbers?
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Wow - another *41* cases of coronavirus found among passengers on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship docked near Yokohama

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wtf
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damn. 61 out of 273 tested?
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Wow - another *41* cases of coronavirus found among passengers on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship docked near Yokohama

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wtf
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Can we calculate RO from the ship numbers?
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I'm not the one to tackle that but it would seem to me that the data would have to be extrapolated after the epidemic runs it's course through the whole ship. Iv'e read a lot of post apocalyptic fiction and never did I come across something like this story that is transpiring on this ship. This is only one ship out of I'm sure many that will end up port-less making it in-capable of doing much but allowing the virus to spread. I've never been on a Cruise but I can't imagine they are set up to provide intensive care to the passengers or crew.... Talk about worse case scenario !!!
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china daily numbers

[link to www.nhc.gov.cn]

3,143 newly confirmed

387 newly cured

26,762 close contacts of medical observations

962 new cases of severe cases

73 new cases of death

4833 suspected cases

totals


31,161 confirmed cases

1,540 cured

636 deaths

26359 suspected cases

314,028 close contacts were traced, and 186,045 close contacts were still in medical observation

A total of 50 confirmed cases were reported from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan: 24 in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (1 death), 10 in the Macao Special Administrative Region (1 in discharged from cure), and 16 in Taiwan (1 discharged from cure).
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here's the predictive chart. we are starting to diverge from the numbers to the good side.

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Wow - another *41* cases of coronavirus found among passengers on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship docked near Yokohama

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wtf
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damn. 61 out of 273 tested?
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I can't even begin to imagine how they would try to manage this situation developing here, no countries willing to allow these ships to dock ... Terrifying especially once desperation takes hold !!
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Hong Kong added 3 confirmed. H2H. Locally acquired.
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Wow - another *41* cases of coronavirus found among passengers on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship docked near Yokohama

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wtf
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Because they’re on a boat

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I posting this morning about the case in Wisconsin.

A few sources.

[link to nypost.com (secure)]

[link to www.nbc15.com (secure)]

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]

[link to www.nbcchicago.com (secure)]

[link to www.nbc15.com (secure)]

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

Why am I bringing it up again? Because it is STILL not listed as an official case at the CDC.More than 24 hours after being confirmed by a local lab,and the DOD.

And I keep see even in this thread 11 cases in the USA.So I know many are not aware.It is actually 12. Actually much higher,many test results have to be done by now they are just not reporting the results to the public.

I think they are trying to decide how they are going to break the news of a local outbreak to people.They are probably studying different ways terms and ideas on how to do it.

Take the 108 quarantined at Princeton University.Now only SYMPTOMATIC cases are being self quarantines,and the number stands at 22.They have the test result by now as it has been more than 5 days.How do you break that news....?

We will soon see I hope.
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On the CDC call yesterday they said State numbers will be more accurate than the CDC numbers as they will update totals on Mon/Wed/Fri. So I would expect to see the WI patient in the total tomorrow.
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I recall a report coming out in last few days that said they were going to let each state make the decision to let the public know of cases ???
 Quoting: miabelieves


Possibly true, in Ohio the health department stated a person was possibly infected but they refused to release what area of the state the person resided in!
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new martenson video


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email interview with Ian Mackay

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Short interview with Professor Neil Ferguson.

Estimates 50K new infections a day in China.
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Hong Kong added 3 confirmed. H2H. Locally acquired.
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Didn't the students and medical personnel just the other day insist on a complete block of the border between HK and mainland China?

I wonder ... does border closure combined with increasing case numbers mean they're stuck for the duration...
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Short interview with Professor Neil Ferguson.

Estimates 50K new infections a day in China.
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He meantioned a doubling of cases every five days. That is a daily multiplier of 1.15.

50,000 new cases a day means a pool of 333,000 infected in China.

I suspect that is a low number.
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2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Situation Summary

Updated February 5, 2020

Risk Assessment

Outbreaks of novel virus infections among people are always of public health concern. The risk from these outbreaks depends on characteristics of the virus, including how well it spreads between people, the severity of resulting illness, and the medical or other measures available to control the impact of the virus (for example, vaccine or treatment medications).

The potential public health threat posed by 2019-nCoV virus is high, both globally and to the United States. The fact that this virus has caused illness, including illness resulting in death, and sustained person-to-person spread in China is concerning. These factors meet two of the criteria of a pandemic. It’s unclear how the situation will unfold, but risk is dependent on exposure. At this time, some people will have an increased risk of infection, for example healthcare workers caring for 2019-nCoV patients and other close contacts of 2019-nCoV patients. For the general American public, who are unlikely to be exposed to this virus, the immediate health risk from 2019-nCoV is considered low at this time.




h/t FT the CDC quietly snuck this in yesterday.
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That will change rather soon.
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My Mamaw used to put things outside in direct sun, as she said, "To kill the germs". This was a big thing after someone in the house was sick, all sheets, towels, pillows washed and left in direct sunlight all day long.
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Note for Nawty:

Mini LJS had to doe a school report on a country regarding current events. She chose China and CV. She used info from your thread, and others to a lesser extent, for her research.

Thank you for helping her understand something that is quite hard for a 12 year old to wrap her mind around.

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Note for Nawty:

Mini LJS had to doe a school report on a country regarding current events. She chose China and CV. She used info from your thread, and others to a lesser extent, for her research.

Thank you for helping her understand something that is quite hard for a 12 year old to wrap her mind around.

hf
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Aw, that's great. I said at the beginning, if this thread helps one person besides me, then that's great. Mission accomplished, I guess. cool2

This is a team effort, and everyone should be thanked.
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My Mamaw used to put things outside in direct sun, as she said, "To kill the germs". This was a big thing after someone in the house was sick, all sheets, towels, pillows washed and left in direct sunlight all day long.
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There is something to be said for some of the "old ways." And something people should take note of...
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Fire training facility near North Bend to be used as coronavirus quarantine site


NORTH BEND, Wash — The Washington State Patrol's Fire Training Academy near North Bend has been designated as a quarantine site for travelers coming from the Hubei Province in China, State Patrol said Wednesday.

Travelers without symptoms of coronavirus who have been in Hubei Province in the past two weeks will be placed under quarantine with daily monitoring by public health officials, according to Washington state Department of Health.

The purpose for the King County facility is for those who cannot self-quarantine at home, which will be the first option for travelers.
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