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COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

 
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Seeing updated numbers.

8241 infected.

171 deaths

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Is this source legit? Cannot find where they update their numbers from.
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Yes, those numbers are coming from the NHC in China...their "official" numbers.

If models hold true, we should see 220+ deaths later tonight.
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Seeing updated numbers.

8241 infected.

171 deaths

[link to multimedia.scmp.com (secure)]

Is this source legit? Cannot find where they update their numbers from.
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None of the real time tracking sites are "official", AFAIK.

I use 2 that never agree completely, but I'm sure that has to do with how often they are updated.

Right now, I'm seeing 8163 and 171
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not Official, Faux-ficial!
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Seeing updated numbers.

8241 infected.

171 deaths

[link to multimedia.scmp.com (secure)]

Is this source legit? Cannot find where they update their numbers from.
 Quoting: Ziipher


None of the real time tracking sites are "official", AFAIK.

I use 2 that never agree completely, but I'm sure that has to do with how often they are updated.

Right now, I'm seeing 8163 and 171
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the source you quoted is the South China Morning Post.

The South China Morning Pos is a Hong Kong English-language newspaper
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The thing for me is that I see the movement along the ratio lines and I wonder when it gets to the point where they are at the maximum amount of tests they can do in a day.
2k 3k 4k?
How many tests can they do to confirm in a 24 hour period. We wont be able to exceed that number on the confirmed regardless.
Which when we hit that saturation point it will look like the virus is under control or tabling when in reality it isn't and its just outside the confirmation limitations.
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I was wondering the same for here. The CDC is the only testing allowed, and it's already taking days to get results (to the public anyway). How many tests can they do simultaneously...all of them? It sounds to me like that's not the case, as they ar e"prioritizing" testing.....

but, as for china, they have tested thousands and thousands, and as of yesterday they are waiting for results on 12,000+ more
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I'm thinking that they are near saturation, and that is why the numbers are as they are.
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The thing for me is that I see the movement along the ratio lines and I wonder when it gets to the point where they are at the maximum amount of tests they can do in a day.
2k 3k 4k?
How many tests can they do to confirm in a 24 hour period. We wont be able to exceed that number on the confirmed regardless.
Which when we hit that saturation point it will look like the virus is under control or tabling when in reality it isn't and its just outside the confirmation limitations.
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I was wondering the same for here. The CDC is the only testing allowed, and it's already taking days to get results (to the public anyway). How many tests can they do simultaneously...all of them? It sounds to me like that's not the case, as they ar e"prioritizing" testing.....

but, as for china, they have tested thousands and thousands, and as of yesterday they are waiting for results on 12,000+ more
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Plus I keep thinking of the close contacts that weren't included in the CDC numbers and were not tested.When I read up on it the CDC told these close contacts with confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV to self report to their health care professionals in the event they become symptomatic. Very worrisome these cases are just floating out there and not quarantined as far as I can tell.
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2 in New Hampshire came back negative
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WHO conference in 15 minutes. if anyone comes across a link........
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2 in New Hampshire came back negative
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That is some relief, my fam is mostly in this NH ME MA area with a few in CT and one in LA out in Cali. That give us still no cases in Northern NE.
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CDC telecon in 15 minutes, too. Im going to try to listen to the CDC, can someone look at the WHO one?
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CDC telecon in 15 minutes, too. Im going to try to listen to the CDC, can someone look at the WHO one?
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FYI, the CDC sent out the notice of today's 1230est teleconference at 1022am.

This is short notice
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WHO conference in 15 minutes. if anyone comes across a link........
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Thought that's an hour and 15 from now?

You can pick it up on their twitter account I believe.

Check out World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO): [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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WHO conference in 15 minutes. if anyone comes across a link........
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Maybe
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WHO conference in 15 minutes. if anyone comes across a link........
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Thought that's an hour and 15 from now?

You can pick it up on their twitter account I believe.

Check out World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO): [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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i thought 1130 central time....my math may be wrong. doesnt matter, im going to try to get on the CDC telecon in 7 minutes.
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WHO conference in 15 minutes. if anyone comes across a link........
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Thought that's an hour and 15 from now?

You can pick it up on their twitter account I believe.

Check out World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO): [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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i thought 1130 central time....my math may be wrong. doesnt matter, im going to try to get on the CDC telecon in 7 minutes.
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I mathed wrong. 1230 my time.
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WHO conference in 15 minutes. if anyone comes across a link........
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Today, the World Health Organization will meet again to decide whether coronavirus is a public health emergency of international concern. The announcement will be made at a 1:30 p.m. ET press conference. You'll be able to watch it live at @WHO

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So an hour and 5mins. from now

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bump to keep active.
Thanks for the straight up, no bullshit thread.
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Dr. Mackay:

Chinese national in Queensland confirmed as ninth Australian coronavirus case [link to sbs.com.au (secure)] via @SBSNews

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H2H in the US. Sounds like Illinois
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Now trying to down play the possibility of H@H in the US
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H2H in the US. Sounds like Illinois
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In case you missed it.
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Chicago resident. Spouse of 1st import case.

Not recommending canceling activities.
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21 suspects in Illinois.
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Oh, and be assured they are monitoring the situation.
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Helen Branswell:

"How severe would #2019nCoV pandemic be? Can't tell without gauging how much mild illness there is; experts think lots of mild cases aren't surfacing. But finding mild cases in a major outbreak is extraordinarily hard — and it's not currently being done."

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1st case. import woman in 60's stable condition

2nd case husband symptomatic in hospital.

identifying contacts and monitoring
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1st case. import woman in 60's stable condition

2nd case husband symptomatic in hospital.

identifying contacts and monitoring
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so, how mnay days was husband wandering around CHICAGO from infection to symptoms??

ugh
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1st case. import woman in 60's stable condition

2nd case husband symptomatic in hospital.

identifying contacts and monitoring
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so, how mnay days was husband wandering around CHICAGO from infection to symptoms??

ugh
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I would think, out of caution, CDC would recognize asymptomatic carriers.
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they keep empahsising how it's a couple, but I would imagine the 1st confirmed has been in isolation since testing positive. And that's been several days. So, have they been spending time together?
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conditions

P1 doing quite well-isolated
P2 stable
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