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Wuhan funeral workers: Wuhan funeral workers' protective gear was deducted

According to Mr. Wang, a funeral person in Wuhan, the front line of the fight against the epidemic in Wuhan is at a critical moment, and frontline medical personnel are under tremendous pressure to work, and their own safety protection has also received the attention of the people across the country Concerned, many hospitals are in urgent need of protective supplies, and all parties are actively working to support rations and vigorously support the protective supplies of front-line medical personnel. The funeral staff in Wuhan are very supportive. However, the funeral work is actually front-line or quasi-front-line. Many patients have recently died unfortunately due to the epidemic. The corpses died due to the epidemic are very contagious and the handling is very difficult. The funeral workers are actually in danger like doctors. Even so, funerals are still working overtime and risky work. However, because the funeral work is "second-line", it is often unknown, and the protective materials of funeral workers are not valued.

Since the outbreak of the epidemic, the disposal of dead bodies due to the epidemic should have been given corresponding protective equipment and supplies to the funeral staff in accordance with the corresponding protection level, but many funeral workers did not receive these materials, and they still mainly use the daily funeral work, This will seriously threaten the personal safety of the funeral staff, and may also increase the risk of epidemic spread.
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Member of the Health and Medical Committee expert group: No mutation was found in the new crown virus, the longest or 5 days

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Jiang Rongmeng said that the virus is mainly transmitted through droplets and contact. From the perspective of droplet transmission, the transmission distance is relatively short, about 1 meter, up to 2 meters, and then the virus will settle and will not float in the air. Therefore, there is no question of how long the virus will survive in the air.

Jiang Rongmeng reminded that because the virus may settle on the surface of smooth objects, from the current research, the virus will survive for several hours on the surface of smooth objects. If the temperature and humidity are suitable, the virus may survive for several days. May survive up to 5 days. Therefore, the virus is transmitted more by hand, and the public should wash their hands more.
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Coronavirus: British evacuee falls ill during flight from China

A British passenger who was evacuated to the UK from Wuhan on Sunday was taken ill on the plane and escorted directly to hospital on landing.

The passenger started to feel “slightly unwell” during the second flight to evacuate Britons from the Chinese city at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak, according to UK health officials. The person, who was wearing a face mask, “self-isolated immediately” and on landing at RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire was taken to hospital for tests while the other 10 passengers went on to staff quarters at Arrowe Park hospital in Wirral, Merseyside, where 83 others from the first flight back to the UK are also being quarantined.
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Mayo Clinic doctor: Coronavirus is ‘basically at a pandemic now’ and should be treated as such

Published Mon, Feb 3 20209:11 AM EST

Dr. Gregory Poland, director of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group, told CNBC on Monday that the fast-spreading coronavirus is nearing pandemic status.

“We’re basically at a pandemic now,” said Poland, regarding the deadly virus, which has currently been labeled as an epidemic.


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“If we don’t start to see outbreaks in the next two or three weeks, we might have dodged a bullet,” said Gottlieb. He’s also physician, health advocate and Pfizer board member.

However, Gottlieb added on “Squawk Box,” “I think we’re going to start seeing secondary spread in the United States in the next two or three weeks, and then it’s going to be a difficult month.

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Mayo Clinic doctor: Coronavirus is ‘basically at a pandemic now’ and should be treated as such

Published Mon, Feb 3 20209:11 AM EST

Dr. Gregory Poland, director of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group, told CNBC on Monday that the fast-spreading coronavirus is nearing pandemic status.

“We’re basically at a pandemic now,” said Poland, regarding the deadly virus, which has currently been labeled as an epidemic.


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“If we don’t start to see outbreaks in the next two or three weeks, we might have dodged a bullet,” said Gottlieb. He’s also physician, health advocate and Pfizer board member.

However, Gottlieb added on “Squawk Box,” “I think we’re going to start seeing secondary spread in the United States in the next two or three weeks, and then it’s going to be a difficult month.

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Video at link. Interviewing 2 heavy hitters. Watch this video. Kudos to CNBC for playing this.
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New CDC update. No surprises.

82 tests pending.

36 states with PUI
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CDC telcon now. I just got on. Late.
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Three passengers that took the same cruise from China to Vietnam in January have been diagnosed with the novel coronavirus, with a further two suspected of being infected, the South China Morning Post has learned.

While one case was confirmed by local government officials in Guangdong province, across the border from Hong Kong, a doctor working at a major hospital in the provincial capital of Guangzhou confirmed an additional two confirmed cases and two suspected cases at the facility.

All four were aboard the same cruise ship, the World Dream, which sailed with more than 4,000 passengers from Nansha port in Guangzhou for Vietnam on January 19, before returning on January 24. The five-night “Impressions of Vietnam” cruise typically docks in tourist hotspots including Da Nang, Ha Long Bay and Nha Trang.
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We know how noroviruses and other illnesses spread on cruise ships.
Like planes, there is a lot of air circulated in areas. Buffets and other areas on ships...

Although there is more fresh air available.
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Mayo Clinic doctor: Coronavirus is ‘basically at a pandemic now’ and should be treated as such

Published Mon, Feb 3 20209:11 AM EST

Dr. Gregory Poland, director of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group, told CNBC on Monday that the fast-spreading coronavirus is nearing pandemic status.

“We’re basically at a pandemic now,” said Poland, regarding the deadly virus, which has currently been labeled as an epidemic.


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“If we don’t start to see outbreaks in the next two or three weeks, we might have dodged a bullet,” said Gottlieb. He’s also physician, health advocate and Pfizer board member.

However, Gottlieb added on “Squawk Box,” “I think we’re going to start seeing secondary spread in the United States in the next two or three weeks, and then it’s going to be a difficult month.

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Video at link. Interviewing 2 heavy hitters. Watch this video. Kudos to CNBC for playing this.
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Thanks! The big eared guy confirmed that the US has had very limited second generation cases as opposed to China - which that is a very good thing. If we do not quickly get small outbreaks under control, though....

He went on to point out that in one week in January, there were over 2300 flights from China to the rest of the globe - first outbreak during times of such unprecedented amounts of travel.

Good video, thanks for the link. (I did not know that the Italian gal, I don't recall her name, is back on air.)
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I'm from Australia - how does the medical system in the US work, ie if you get this corona virus, will they treat you if you have no money?

If so will they give you the bill after treatment?

If so, a lot of people may not seek treatment for fear of incurring debt?
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In America by law a hospital has to admit you if you show up at the ER (Emergency Room). You do get the bill though if you don't have insurance, not an illegal alien, or don't have Medicaid.

Yea, we saved your life from a disease we should have never allowed in but here is the 20,000 bill bitch.
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But they dont have to admit you to that hospital unless you are about to flatline (lifecsaving measures). Otherwise, you get referred to an indigent hospital. These are usually regional medical centers i believe. If you do not have insurance and plan to go the ER route google first so you go to an indigent medical center instead of getting told to go to one by another hospital.
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The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to anyone seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. Participating hospitals may not transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment except with the informed consent or stabilization of the patient or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.[1]

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I'm from Australia - how does the medical system in the US work, ie if you get this corona virus, will they treat you if you have no money?

If so will they give you the bill after treatment?

If so, a lot of people may not seek treatment for fear of incurring debt?
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In America by law a hospital has to admit you if you show up at the ER (Emergency Room). You do get the bill though if you don't have insurance, not an illegal alien, or don't have Medicaid.

Yea, we saved your life from a disease we should have never allowed in but here is the 20,000 bill bitch.
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But they dont have to admit you to that hospital unless you are about to flatline (lifecsaving measures). Otherwise, you get referred to an indigent hospital. These are usually regional medical centers i believe. If you do not have insurance and plan to go the ER route google first so you go to an indigent medical center instead of getting told to go to one by another hospital.
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The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to anyone seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. Participating hospitals may not transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment except with the informed consent or stabilization of the patient or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.[1]

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When worst comes to worst though, unfortunately the hospitals will quickly go beyond capacity.
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NawtyBits i have a email from my chinese friend, i cant email you through here or flutrackers. She said she has been quarantined for 10 days and has one more week to go. Stores are open, She knows it a novel virus no exact medicine to cover it but doctors are working on it. asked her if i could tell her what Americans are saying and sent the link to gisanddata . She said yes yes wuhan people flee and take it with them. She said i should wear mask and sent me a picture of a regular mask to show me what kind of mask i should buy. There is more but Im not sharing here. She also said no one has died or gotten the sickness in her province.

I will say this either or news or their news is lying probably both.
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NawtyBits i have a email from my chinese friend, i cant email you through here or flutrackers. She said she has been quarantined for 10 days and has one more week to go. Stores are open, She knows it a novel virus no exact medicine to cover it but doctors are working on it. asked her if i could tell her what Americans are saying and sent the link to gisanddata . She said yes yes wuhan people flee and take it with them. She said i should wear mask and sent me a picture of a regular mask to show me what kind of mask i should buy. There is more but Im not sharing here. She also said no one has died or gotten the sickness in her province.

I will say this either or news or their news is lying probably both.
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Thanks. Cam you say what province?
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according to research and clinical experience, patients who are recovering and discharged are not infectious and can produce antibodies. Viral infection.

Qiu Haibo said that patients need to undergo two nucleic acid tests, the body temperature is normal for 3 days, and the nucleic acid test is negative twice a day before being allowed to be discharged. Because the patients themselves produce antibodies, as long as the antibodies are present, they can resist the infection of the new coronavirus, and have sufficient resistance for at least six months or longer..



So, clearance testing is now 3 days afebrile and 2 negatives.
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Hubei daily numbers

2345 new confirmed

64 new deaths

101 discharged



Totals


13,522 confirmed

396 discharged

414 dead


10,990 being treated in the hospital (including 1567 cases of severe illness and 576 cases of critical illness)

68988 close contacts have been tracked

58544 under medical observation.

This is Hubei province only.
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this french chart has been pretty close on the death projection side of thing.

It says 67 deaths will be reported today, and we break 1000 in a week.

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Just something to watch.
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FYI, we had 64 in Hubei today. Waiting on the rest.
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Can the Wuhan Coronavirus Be Stopped?

We spoke with virology expert Ian Mackay, an adjunct assistant professor at School of Medicine at the University of Queensland in Australia.

Do you think this will be a virus that we'll have to live with unless a vaccine is created at some point?

Dr. Mackay:
I do. While there is no good evidence to support asymptomatic transmission, we know that infectious viruses can be found without symptoms, for other viruses. It probably isn’t a major transmission route, though.

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Excellent article.

Dr. Mackay's twitter account for more great articles:

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Snohomish County man with novel coronavirus discharged from hospital

The first person in the United States to be diagnosed with the novel coronavirus has been discharged from an Everett hospital. The Snohomish County man had been treated in isolation at Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett since Jan. 19.

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The Snohomish County man hadn’t taken a direct flight, and public health officials haven’t said which airport or airports he connected through before arriving at Sea-Tac.

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Public health officials from Snohomish and King counties and Washington state are monitoring 56 people who had close contact with the man.



Comment: Finally. Some good news.
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2 Coronavirus Patients Hospitalized in San Francisco After Conditions Worsen: Officials


Two California coronavirus patients whose cases were confirmed by U.S. health officials over the weekend were transported to a hospital in San Francisco.

The San Francisco Department of Public Health said the two patients, who are from Northern California’s San Benito County, were taken to the hospital on Monday. The San Benito County Health Department has said the pair remained at home and posed a low risk to the community.

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The San Benito County coronavirus cases involved a married couple. The husband went to Wuhan, China, where officials believe the virus had originated, and transmitted the virus to his wife.
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UMass Boston student with Wuhan coronavirus visited campus health center, officials say

BOSTON —

The University of Massachusetts, Boston student who tested positive for the Wuhan coronavirus visited the campus health center after returning home from China, according to school officials.

The student, a man in his 20s, went to University Health Services last Wednesday and was wearing a surgical mask at the time.

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Public health and school officials said the student is being isolated at his home, which is off campus, during his recovery and is checking in regularly by phone with public health nurses. His condition has dramatically improved, according to University Health Services.

He will remain isolated until health officials determine that he is no longer contagious.

The student's few close contacts have been identified and are being monitored for any sign of Wuhan coronavirus symptoms.
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NawtyBits i have a email from my chinese friend, i cant email you through here or flutrackers. She said she has been quarantined for 10 days and has one more week to go. Stores are open, She knows it a novel virus no exact medicine to cover it but doctors are working on it. asked her if i could tell her what Americans are saying and sent the link to gisanddata . She said yes yes wuhan people flee and take it with them. She said i should wear mask and sent me a picture of a regular mask to show me what kind of mask i should buy. There is more but Im not sharing here. She also said no one has died or gotten the sickness in her province.

I will say this either or news or their news is lying probably both.
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Thanks for sharing.

You might want to tell her that her provincial government is reporting 259 confirmed cases in Shandong, with 0 deaths, so far. They might not be telling the residents everything there to prevent panic.

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Retweeted by Dr. Mackay:

"My most fervent risk communication complaint at the moment is the tendency of many top officials in the U.S., Canada, and Europe to overemphasize the fact that the risk of the novel Wuhan coronavirus here and now is tiny – as if that meant that people should (or could!) wait to worry until the risk here and now got bigger. “No reason for alarm,” is bad science as well as bad risk communication. Officials and experts are alarmed already – reason enough for the public to gird up its loins as well."

"Worry is about the future. Telling people not to worry about an emerging infectious disease because it isn’t a significant risk here and now is foolish."

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I concur. Get yourselves prepared.

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Retweeted by Dr. Mackay:

"My most fervent risk communication complaint at the moment is the tendency of many top officials in the U.S., Canada, and Europe to overemphasize the fact that the risk of the novel Wuhan coronavirus here and now is tiny – as if that meant that people should (or could!) wait to worry until the risk here and now got bigger. “No reason for alarm,” is bad science as well as bad risk communication. Officials and experts are alarmed already – reason enough for the public to gird up its loins as well."

"Worry is about the future. Telling people not to worry about an emerging infectious disease because it isn’t a significant risk here and now is foolish."

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I concur. Get your selves prepared.
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And, as I've said before, Ian Mackay is one of the top 5 virologist in the world, IMHO.

When he says it's ok to be alarmed, then I will be alarmed.

My loins are girded.
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Global Times:

"Scientists have found coronavirus nucleic acid on the doorknob of a confirmed Guangzhou-based patient's house, the first case of novel #coronavirus detected outside the human body."

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Haven't seen UH in a day or 2. I wonder if I accidentally banned him.
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Haven't seen UH in a day or 2. I wonder if I accidentally banned him.
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Hanging out in another thread?
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Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345
China numbers


[link to www.nhc.gov.cn]

3235 new confirmed

64 deaths

157 cured

5,072 suspected


Totals


20,438 confirmed

2788 severe cases

425 dead

632 cases cured

23214 suspected


221,015 close contacts have been tracked. 12,755 people were released from medical observation on the same day, and 171,329 people are currently receiving medical observation.
WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do

"If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker





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